User talk:Miss-simworld

Samir Geagea
I agree w u, i myself too am not the biggest fan of Geagea as a person but this does not justify this atrocious bias. i'm currently reviewing the sources and fixing what can be fixed, your help is appreciated. Eli +  23:12, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

thanks Eli♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 03:15, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Hi dear, i'm a fellow lebanese wikipedian, I noticed your work, i am impressed but please DO add a wikiproject Lebanon assessment template on you articles talk pages. About the references, i am glad you do cite them, yet you could do a better job, take a look at the way Eshmun Temple's references are written, it would help improve the article's status.

Keep on the good work, you can always ask me whatever :D  Eli  +  18:58, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

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HI AGAIN< i reviewed your talk page history, you do not sign your posts. just write four tildes like this  ~   Eli  +  19:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

BTW care to join our facebook group?

sure i never get a hang of the technical stuff ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 04:02, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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January 2010
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did to Uri Davis. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. ''As you were notified yesterday, the category Muslims of Jewish heritage has been deleted. You should not continue to add articles to this.'' RolandR (talk) 14:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Its not Vandalism URI DAVIS does have Jewish heritage he was jewish until he converted to Islam in 2008


 * It is vandalism to repeatedly add articles to a deleted category RolandR (talk) 14:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

I was not away this catergory was deleted! was no explanation for it eitherMiss-simworld (talk) 14:54, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Then you should have been aware, before reverting the earlier edit RolandR (talk) 15:01, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

By who???? Miss-simworld (talk) 15:21, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * As you wrote in your edit summary "Undid revision 338320620 by Good Olfactory", you presumably know who made the earlier edit. RolandR (talk) 15:56, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * If you mean, by whom was the category deleted, by Good Olfactory on 17 January 2010; by Cyde on 25 June 2008; and by Avraham on 10 March 2008. RolandR (talk) 16:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

thanks, I never recieved a msg from them so thats why i was kinda shocked arent deletion requests usually reviewed before they are deleted? Miss-simworld (talk) 16:09, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

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Bummer
Hi, you beat me again!!!! My compliments on the Carmen Lebbos article, i could not possibly done a better job. I was searching for sources about her sexual assault incident but could not find any, (even though she admitted the incident with Zahi wehbe on TV ). Yalla great job again. Eli +  07:37, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
 * he reported being raped by a friend of her unsuspecting father'. she had no problem talking abt the issue. Eli  +  09:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

wow i knew had a tough life before starting acting but thats very sad but thanks for the info do you know how old she was at the time is this why she ran away at 14?Miss-simworld (talk) 09:59, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Michel Aflaq
Miss-simworld (talk) if Michel Aflaq really did convert, then please provide a credible source. I have always read that Saddam always claimed that Aflaq converted on his death bed, but in other articles Aflaq's family members have vehemently refuted that. There is no reliable source that proves that he converted, if you do find a reliable source then please add it. And with regards to Fairuz Miss-simworld (talk) regardless of the fact that her father was Assyrian and the fact that she was Greek Orthodox, because she married Assi Rihbani (which you recognize!), you don't know whether she identified as Arab or not; however Fairuz was always linked on that site and since you are the one removing it, you are the one who has to find a reliable source that states that she never identified herself as "Arab". I definitely agree that using one's language as their identity is pretty tricky business, for example Americans are never called "English" even though they speak English; however in Lebanon and the wider Arab world we have many people who do call themselves "Arab". Whereas in the former case there are no Americans who call themselves English. I suggested before (maybe if you read all my comments on the talk page, instead of just reading one) and with consensus changed the title to "Arabic Christians and Arabic-Speaking Christians", but somebody reverted it.George Al-Shami (talk) 23:07, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * George Al-Shami please do not delete sourced passages, you can add your sources, but in Wikipedia you don't delete other passages that are well-sourced. talk you are clearly misinformed about this subject. Please read this article about the Ghassanids, before you make further editsGeorge Al-Shami (talk) 23:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Miss-simworld lol, you have clearly not read the article Ghassanids and you have not checked the sources. If you check the Encyclopedia Britannica (the UK, where you are from :))source you'll notice that the article pretty much depends on this source. Respectfully Miss-simworld, if you take a step back and check your passages, you'll realize everything you're arguing is based on your personal opionins and views. Without even checking the sources for Ghassanids article, you attacked it and claimed that pan-Arabists are behind it, even though if you check the article you'll see that it is mostly based on the Encyclopedia Britannica source, lol. And if you go to Amazon.com you'll see that the majority of books on this subject are written by WesternersGeorge Al-Shami (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

arabism
I understand your opinion and I know some people hold these views but, I am not so sure about the equation Arabism = Islamism. As you probably know the vanguards of pan-arabism Gamal Abdul Nasser, Michel Aflaq, and Constantine Zureiq were all resolutely against Islamism. The Egyptian leader executed a number of Islamic fundamentalists in the mid 1960's, the most prominent Islamic fundamentalist he killed was Ahmed Qutb. Islamists usually don't give a damn about Arabism or nationalism; what they want to create is an Islamic "umma". They don't care about borders or languages; the extreme Islamic fundamentalist want to make the whole world Islamic. For some Islamists their native tongue is Arabic, so they use this language to propagate their ideas, but a lot of Islamists are Pakistani/Iranian/Turkish etc. With regards to Antun Saadeh, yes absolutely he was completely against pan-arabism and I'm the one who removed the category "Arab nationalist" from that article, it took many references until other editors stopped putting back the "Arab nationalist category". And actually what you interpreted as POV for the Phoenician claim is actually true, it's not POV. Notwithstanding the national geographic study that was well publicized and that did find Phoenician DNA, the Lebanese and the Lebanese school textbooks exaggerate their links to the Phoenicians. By the way the NG DNA research found Phoenician DNA, but that doesn't mean there is no Arab, Greek, Mediterranean DNA. If you're interested about this I really recommend you read Kamal Salibi's A house of many mansions. It is the best book I ever read about Lebanese and Syrian history. This scholar has been studying this region for more than half a century and his book is only 234 pages, depending on how fast you read it could take from a couple of days to 1 month. His book challenged my views on a number of fronts; for instance I used to believe that the Syrians/Lebaneses/Palestinians/Jordanians were 0% Arab before the Arabic Islamic invasion of Syria in 634 AD. (By the way historians refer to the 4 countries just mentioned as "Syria" before 1918.) Anyways I thought that the Syrians/Lebanese/Palestinians/Jordanians spoke ONLY Syriac before the Arab Muslim Invasion, but Salibi turns this view on its head and explains using medieval histocial sources that the Eastern Mediterraneans (Syrians/Lebanese/Palestinians/Jordanians) spoke Arabic as the common language and only spoke syriac during religious practice. This was a big revelation for me to find out that our ancestors spoke Arabic before the Arab Muslim conquest of Syria in 634 AD. This does not mean that the Syrian/Lebanese are 100% ethnically Arab, from my accumulated knowledge the Lebanese like the Syrians are a mix of 4-5 ethnic groups Phoenician/Canaanite/Arab/Greek and Western European -especially during the Crusades-. Anyways there is too much to say about this, it is very interesting! but if you read the book you will learn a lot about your ancestors; you will not regret it :)!.By the way if you check the Arab Christians talk page I started a survey about changing the title of that article.George Al-Shami (talk) 03:07, 1 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Honey you are making unfounded statements left and right. You should understand 1 thing When I speak to you of a historical event that does not mean I support or disagree with the historical event; this is the main thing you keep confusing. In your edit you said that Muslim rulers who gave religious freedom to minorities is POV, this is not POV..whether you like it or not, it is a historical fact. Now the Muslim rulers DID discriminate against the Christians, no doubt about that- and There are other things they did I can tell you about, but if you are a scholar or a professional academic, you don't just mention the negative you also mention the postive, as a professional that's what we do! We give the whole picture and not just the negative. Miss world you are mixing opinion and fact together, that is what I'm not doing.

Be careful, Miss world you made a number of naive remarks, if a historian mentions a historical fact that does not mean they glorify it! Be careful Miss woerld,. be very careful, you are jumping to conclusions with respects to my beliefs even though you don't know anything my beliefs. and that's where you go wrong....you are misinterpreting and mixing historical facts that I am presenting to you!! :) :)and here's the proof because when I am talking about historical facts I am presenting NPOV evidence and and with the NPOV facts you are not able to gauge my opinion, but since you are making mostly pov remarks in your responses I am able to gauge your opnnion. LOL LOL... I am careful to talk about fact and add some opinion, wheeras you have your opinion all over the ploace. Notice when I do talk about beliefs one of my response to you..I say "it is my belief".. One last thing Kamal is a historian NOT an ideologue...he DOES NOT propagate any ideology in his book whatsoever. He is 100% professional I am telling you, because this is my forte/major ! so I know ! LOL There are many ideologues who try to pass as historian, but people like me are able to tell right away. And the distinguished mR. Salibi is not one of those people.

Anyways ..Anyways..Miss world there's a lot of things I want to explain and tell you about...that's why I really think we should take this conversation outside of Wikipedia...What I am so happy about is that you Love this region and you are very interested about it.. I admire that, because as you probably know a lot of the Syrian/lebanese Christians who are born in the West don't know anything about our world and they can care less and that bothers and saddens me a lot. Anyways I'm not a fast typist and it's taking too long to respond to you and there's like 98% of things that I want to say, but I'm not being able to because of time and space constraints. Anyways.... I am enabling the e-mail feature in my account so that you can send me an e-mail, and if you you do likewise I would be able to e-mail you. if you are interested we could continue this on Skype, you know it's much faster.

I agree with yasmina that Arabism is a form of intolerance and racism

Beyruthi (talk) 16:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hi Miss-simworld, I see that you've uploaded a different image here after the last one was deleted. While it seems true that, if published in Lebanon when created, the image is public domain, do you have any proof that it was ? If it was, as I suspect, first publised in the United States or Europe, then the image is still copyrighted - Peripitus (Talk) 10:10, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Another editor has decided that the image was first published in the United States, and so it is not a free image. Unfortunately, unless there is proof that this was first published in Lebanon, it will have to be deleted - Peripitus (Talk) 02:47, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi
I go by what reliable sources say as to who and who is not a Jew. Uri Davis defined himself as one, and as a Palestinian Jew, according to what reliable sources say. If you have a reliable source that says he has converted to Islam, please do add it to add the article. I haven't been able to find one.

About the Palestinian people and their possible Jewish ancestry, there is already a lot information of that topic (perhaps too much) at the article on them. You should read it if you are interested in the subject. I added a lot of it myself. My mother always use to say that Palestinians were once Jews who converted to Christianity when Jesus came and that most of them then converted to Islam when Muhammad came. She thinks it is one of the great ironies of the conflict that brothers and sisters are killing one another.  T i a m u t talk 09:36, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Suha Arafat
Miss world there are sources that dispute Suha's conversion to Islam. Let me teach you: the majority of Arab Christians who convert to Islam do so to marry their lover, not because of their devotion to Islam; meaning their conversion is on paper only. Very few actually practice Islam, conversely for the majority it is not a real conversion (I have actually read articles about this), because they still celebrate Christian holidays. Now you have mistakenly assumed that once a person converts to another religion it is cut in stone, not true! Now Suha's case it's obvious she's after the money and I added a source to back that up. The hajj and all the other things she is doing is publicity honey, so she can get her money and keep any PA official silent from raising questions about her religion. Now I can tell you that Suha slipped, in one interview with Al Arabiya station she forgot to remove the Christmas tree in the background. Now miss world would a real convert have a Christmas tree in her office?George Al-Shami (talk) 20:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yasmina you have a listed source about Suha performing the hajj and I have a listed a source that questions her conversion, you have a listed a category that's provides more info about those who converted and I have listed 2 categories about her "purported" former religion, what is wrong with keeping both the  category you placed and the  categories I returned to the article?George Al-Shami (talk) 00:47, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Hawi
Miss world welcome to Wikipedia, you should know a couple of things just because a person has converted or changed their beliefs that's not grounds for you to remove their category. For instance in the george Hawi, why are you denying readers the opportunity to learn about his original faith. We all know that he was a leader of the communist party, but you should not deny readers from learning about his original culture and religion. For instance there's an Asian American conservative commentator and she rejects being labeled "Asian", however she is still ethnically Asian and that category should still be there so readers learn about "Asian Americans". That's the way it works. Wikipedia is meant to be inclusive.George Al-Shami (talk) 20:41, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

February 2010
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It is pretty clear that you cannot contribute to the Brigitte Gabriel Article neutrally. If you continue to add youtube sourced content to biographies of living people you will be blocked from editing. --Leivick (talk) 21:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

I have contributed neutrally, you just dont like what i added. which is 100% fact from either Gabriel herslef or fellow neo-cons♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 21:08, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Read and understand WP:BLP. Bloggers and youtube are not appropriate sources in a biography of a living person.  The rules for these type of biographies are very strict the sources must be good or the material must be removed. --Leivick (talk) 21:11, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * It is obvious that you cannot edit this article neutrally. You clearly have an agenda. If you continue to edit war you will be blocked from editing. --Leivick (talk) 21:15, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

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NPOV? dont make me laugh your the most POV editor i have ever ecountered who was so desperate to cover blantant facts over that Brigitte Gabriel (Hanan Tudor) fraud you've blocked me and deleted my sources. Well done, It must be hard knowing those trashy Gabriel books were a waste of money loool whatever do what you like atleast i know this con-artist doesnt fool me.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 21:27, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Yasmina, you need to listen to those talking to you and not use POV as an arguing point. If Leivick had not blocked you, it is likely I or another administrator would have. Your sources are often poor and you are edit warring to push your agenda. Leivick is not pushing a point-of-view on the subject and neither is myself or others disputing the material you add, I for instance know nothing of her and have no opinion about her. If you return from the block and continue the same activity you will be blocked again, and probably for a much longer time. The talk page is the place to discuss this - the article is not a forum for you to express your strongly held views on her - Peripitus (Talk) 02:25, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Here is the thing, Id like to be aware WHERE exactly was it? was MY personal view of Gabriel marked in the article itself? Quote me in the article itself? Did I state a personal view of Brigitte Gabriel from POV? Pointing out she called Iranians arabs is NOT POV but a fact or that the fox news team asked her how Obama's Farsi was. Is hardly me marking my own opinion. hmmmm My personal opinion? not that of Gabriel's(Hanan Tudor) own words or even that of her fellow neo-cons? She is a controversial figure who many can question her tell-tells (including her own kind) many people have a criticism sections including upleading Academics (which she is not btw) why should she be any different? If anything its balancing the article out.Also if I were to source (which would of been easy to do) where she states she buried in Lebanon then reburied her parents in Mt Zion but also state the obviously fact that Christians in Lebanon DONT bury their dead only the muslims do this, this would of been deleted aswell.since its quite clear there is a pro-Gabriel bias protected on that page where  ANYthing that defames her with evidence in a displeasing light gets blocked or deleted. However her fairy-tale book is considered a reliable source LOOOOOOL ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 08:24, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

I have now added Criticism Of Gabriel. I was able to do this since Dr. Franklin Lamb is a qualified researcher and author at the American University of Beirut. He is known as a Reliable source since he is qualified to talk on such matters. Likewise, Ahmed Bedier from CAIR is a Reliable source and is qualified to talk also. Actual criticism of her ideas are more difficult to come by since Radical Muslims do indeed follow the Koran strictly. Whether Radical Muslims will succeed in taking over the world as Gabriel seems to threaten can be argued with. But not many Reliable sources seem to want to take up the argument because I'm guessing that Islam has too many holes in it and it's difficult to defend.122.107.141.196 (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

Islam? hahahaha you think I know this woman a fraud because I am a Muslim or trying to defend Islam HAHAHAHAHAHAHA what an ignorant assumpation I know this woman is liar and shameless self-promoter because I am a christian who is of Lebanese,Syrian and Egyptian descent.I am not defending Islam here infact i am against Islamism, but Gabriel makes little argument about Islam she only blabbers how inferior muslims are and how israelis and american christians are saints. She has no qualified credentials whatsoever on geo-politics or on the social & religious structure and does not qualify as a political analyst or Historian, shes only someone who blabbers her big mouth and is conning idiotic people into buying her trashy books to fill her wallet and ego. She lies on several occasions about the situation in Lebanon and fabricates sections of Lebanese history. ANYBODY who purposely distorts history and stories should be put into question needs CRITICISM page even Walid Shoebat has one why should she be any different.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 08:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

If you want listen to people who make REAL criticism of Islam listen to Robert Spencer,Richard Dawkins,Salman Rushdie,Maryam Namazie and Pat Condell. These people know how to make an intellgible argument against Islam without lying or exaggerating and not motivated by Ego or cash and actually know what they are talking about.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 08:53, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

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hey arent you the same Pro-Brigitte Gabriel editor from the other Article? There are none free images it is not aimed to be put in the article permantly, only for temporary period UNTIL free Images Ive stated this before its not long term.I am looking into finding free Images fro these people but until then these were put for time being.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 11:01, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Non-free images of living people are almost always deemed replaceable. Though we may not have a free image now, it is seen that hosting a non-free image discourages the creation of a free one. - Peripitus (Talk) 11:39, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Both articles are nearly 4 years old all the images ppl did upload (which I advised them not to) where all copyrighted or they didnt know had to put the right information in. I have made requests to wikipedians if they have this photos. However I think it may come down to me contacting various sources for permission I can do this but he issue of proving permission is what i need to be understand how it works.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 19:47, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
 * The expectation is that a free image could be created. Though there may not be a free image at the moment, A wikipedian&mdash;or someone else&mdash;could take a photograph of them and release under a free licence. If you do manage to get an image, say from their agent, just follow the steps at photo submission and the permission will be permanently recorded in the OTRS system - Peripitus (Talk) 20:51, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Leila Mourad
Thanks for uploading the Leila Mourad pic. It's very nice. --Arab Cowboy (talk) 06:23, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

no problem ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 11:05, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Editing other people's comments
Hi Miss-simworld. You edited another user's comments. This is not acceptable for talk pages - it is standard policy never to modify other users' posts on talk pages. See Signatures for more information on this policy. I am reverting your edits. Please feel free to re-add your opinion/comment as a new comment, without modifying others' comments. Nimur (talk) 05:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

That was MY comments ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 11:15, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

CfD nomination of Category:Lebanese Anti-Syrian political activists
I have nominated lebanese anti-syrian political activists for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:27, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

I will not be rude Why on earth have you have nominated this category for deletion? This is a pretty valid caterogry Lebanese who polictically are activst against syrian haegmony in Lebanon.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 20:08, 14 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for your efforts! It's nice to find someone who is fighting the same battle against those pan-Arabists :) I don't think it's even necessary to provide a word on Egyptians' or Lebanese's viewpoint on Arab nationalism in that article. If people are interested, they can refer to the articles on Egyptian nationalism or Lebanese nationalism. But that article is talking about Arabs, and neither we nor you are Arabs. It's a simple fact. I will keep fighting these people, unless they decide to change the title into Arabic-speaking or something of the sort. Let me know what you think, and thanks again :) -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  17:32, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, AMAZING job on the Rejection of "Arab Identity" section! It's impressive and extremely informative! -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  17:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree with every single thing you said. That's what they usually do when they cannot come up with decent explanations or their POV: they accuse you of being someone's sockpuppet to scare you and make you quit the fight prematurely. They just reverted my edits on Arab Christians, I will need your help reverting back if you could. We should also look for other users who share our point of view to help us against these pan-Arabists. Oh, and by the way, it's funny that you're 1/4 Egyptian, because I'm 1/4 Lebanese. Small world :) -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  18:58, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Here they go Sockpuppet investigations/Lanternix, HAHA! -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  19:24, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha! Did you expect otherwise? :D We shouldn't lose this momentum, and we should keep on fighting POV pan-Arabism on Wikipedia! -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  16:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

On Arab identity
Hey! I came across this article, and I thought of sharing it with you. It's about the identity of Middle Eastern Christians, and whether or not they're Arabs. Let's keep it up! As long as everything we say is documented (and it is and will be), they won't be able to remove anything. Enjoy the article :) -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  23:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

أكثر المسلمين أنفسهم الذين ينتشرون في الأقطار التي تُسمّى اليوم "عربية"، هم أيضاً، ليسوا بالأصل، عرباً. المسيحيون المتواجدون اليوم في سورية ولبنان وفلسطين والأردن وكذلك مصر، هم أبناء سكان البلاد الأصليين الذين تعرضوا للغزو الإسلامي، واستطاعوا رغم حياة الذل التي فرضها عليهم المسلمون أن يحافظوا على مسيحيتهم. بعض هؤلاء المسيحيين، كالآشوريين والكلدانيين والسريان والأقباط، ثابروا على استخدام لغاتهم في طقوسهم الدينية وحياتهم اليومية، فنجحوا في الحفاظ على شخصيتهم القومية، وحموها بذلك من الذوبان في بوتقة العروبة. أما الذين عرّبوا طقوسهم وتخلوا عن لغتهم القومية، فقد ذابوا في هذه البوتقة العربية إلى درجة بلغ فيها بعضهم حدّ التعصّب للعروبة أكثر من العرب أنفسهم. من جهة أخرى، كان بين هؤلاء المسيحيين الأوائل أيضاً من لم يستطع تحمل حياة الذل التي فرضها عليهم المسلمون الغزاة، فلم يتخلوا فقط عن لغتهم، بل أيضاً عن مسيحيتهم، ومع مرور الزمن، نسي أحفادهم كل صلة لهم بتاريخهم القومي. وهكذا، يمكن القول بأنّ المسلمين المنتشرين اليوم في الأقطار العربية، هم أبناء ذلك الخليط من الغزاة المسلمين الأوائل والمسيحيين سكان البلاد الأصليين. بالإضافة إلى ذلك، كان هناك بعض القبائل التي ترتقي بنسبها إلى عرب الجنوب، والتي هاجرت إلى بلاد الشام قبل الإسلام واعتنقت النصرانية، ولكن عددهم لا يذكر بالمقارنة مع عدد المسيحيين من السكان الأصليين، وقد تعرضوا هم أيضاً كما تعرض هؤلاء ـ كي يحافظوا على حياتهم ـ لشرط الاختيار بين الجزية أو الإسلام. لكن، ومهما كان الأمر، سواء كنتُ أرتقي بأصلي إلى المسيحيين سكان البلاد الأصليين، أو إلى بعض القبائل العربية التي اعتنقت المسيحية، فإنني لا أعتبر نفسي عربياً، بل أرفض أن أدعى عربياً، ولهذا الرفض سببان وجيهان جداً. السبب الأول هو ارتباط العروبة بالإسلام، والإسلام بالعروبة، وأنا كمسيحي أرفض الانتماء إلى أمة لا تعترف بي جزءاً منها إلا إذا اتّبعت دينها. والسبب الثاني، هو النزعة العنصرية في هذه العروبة الإسلامية أو الإسلام العربي، وأنا أرفض الانتماء إلى أمة ذات نزعة عنصرية أو أن يكون لي أية علاقة بدين عنصري. لقد زرع محمد في نفوس العرب نوعاً من العنصرية يصعب اقتلاعها، إذ جعلها مشيئة إلهية ثابتة لا جدال فيها. أوهمهم بأنهم أفضلُ أمَّةٍ خلقها الله، "كنتم خير أمةٍ أُخرِجَت للناس.." (آية 110 آل عمران) لا بل ذهب به الشطط أبعد من ذلك إذ قال أن حبَّ العرب إيمانُ بالله وبغضَهم كفرٌ به وأيضاً.. (وعليك أن تحبس نفسك هنا..) أن الذي يسبّهم يشرك بالله!.. تعالَ نقرأ: "من سبّ العرب فأولئك هم المشركون" (عن عمر.) "من غشّ العرب لم يدخل في شفاعتي ولم تنله مودتي" (عن عثمان) "يا سلمان! لا تبغضني فتفارق دينك، قال: كيف" قال: تبغض العرب فتبغضني!" (عن ابن عباس) "أحبوا العرب لثلاث: لأني عربي والقرآن عربي وكلام أهل الجنة عربي!" (عن ابن عباس) "حب العرب إيمانٌ وبغضهم نفاق" (عن أنس) "إذا ذُلَّتِ العربُ ذُلَّ الإسلام" (عن جابر) "حبُّ قريش إيمان وبغضُهم كفر وحب العرب إيمان وبغضهم كفر فمن أحب العرب فقد أحبني ومن أبغض العرب فقد أبغضني." (عن أنس) "إن الله عز وجل خلق السماوات سبعاً واختار العلى منها وأسكنها من شاء من خلقه، ثم خلق الخلق فاختار من خلقه بني آدم، واختار من بني آدم العرب، واختار من العرب مضر، واختار من مضر قريشاً واختار من قريش بني هاشم واختارني من بني هاشم، فأنا خيارٌ إلى خيار، فمن أحب العرب فبحبي أحبهم، ومن أبغض العرب فببغضي أبغضهم." (عن ابن عمر) وانطلاقاً من هذه التعاليم، ليس غريباً أن نقرأ لكتّابٍ مسلمين عرب يؤكدون هذا الترابط الكامل بين العروبة والإسلام. يقول الدكتور ناجي معروف في "أصالة الحضارة العربية" أنّ "العربي، إذا تطرّف في عروبته، كان أقرب إلى الإسلام، والمسلم، إذا تطرّف في إسلامه، كان أقرب إلى العروبة، بل كان عربياً!" كما يقول في الكتاب نفسه، "إنّ كل من يسعى لرفع راية الإسلام يُسمّى عربياً، وإن كل من يعتزّ برسالة محمد والدين الإسلامي الحنيف ويسعى لنشر الإسلام يٌسمّى عربياً". أما الدكتور محمد كامل فيذهب أبعد من ذلك في كتابه "الإسلام والعروبة" حيث يقول، "أصبح عربياً كل من اعتنق الإسلام وتحدّث بالعربية دون نظر إلى انتمائه العرقي." بعد كل هذا، هل يمكن لمسيحي أو أي إنسان غير مسلم، أن يسمّي نفسه عربياً، أو أن يقبل بأن يُدعى عربياً، لا لشيء إلا لأنه ولد في بلد "عربي" ونطق بلغته؟..

intresting article!! could you send me the link to the original site link? thanks it true what it says it is racism the worse kind i have ever seen, even if I was to find out that I was descended from an Arabian tribe (which is unlikely) that converted to Christianity I would never accept Arabism because today it's meaning is simple = islamism and excepting that Islamic culture is dominant to all. There is NO secular arabism that truely exists. It's a myth and a lie. Pan-Arabism is the Arab Nazism Germany was only able to flourish when that totalitarian and racist ideology was banished and abandoned it can only be the same for the middle east. Without it you will see more people being able to express and think for themselves and accept indiviuality and cultural/racial diversity and ofcourse minorities would be better off.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 06:47, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, everything you say above shows that your points of view are unacceptable on Wikipedia. And are WRONG. --Arab Cowboy (talk) 13:02, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

This is the problem with pan-arabists you want to force your opinion with even those who disagree with it read the book The origins of totalitarianism then tell me I am the only one who thinks or argues that. Pan-Arabism is a racist and failed ideology. Which has the victims of many innocent people. Arabism is racism!, it is one of the most racist ideology ever to exist, it has been embedded with bigotry of its ultra nationalism against all non-Arabs or forcing the Label onto to non arabs and comitting cultural genocide (as well real life genocide like the farhud in Iraq and massacre in Darfur) since its inception, past and currect main victims of its racism include: Kurds (mainly in Iraq & in Syria), Berbers (in north Africa), Jews (Jewish victims of Arabism were even before Israel's re-establishment and today include not just in the middle east), black Africans (mosly in the Sudan, Mauritania, Egypt, but not exclusively) and Christians (Egypt and Lebanon) who have fell victim to this ideology.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 14:54, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

vandalism
Miss sim world you have no right to start vandalizing Arab American articles and start removing the category, that is extreme POV. The Arab American Institute was started by a Lebanese Christian and they list all Americans from Arab descent as Arab Americans and this term is routinely used by the media, which means we have sources describing these individuals as Arab Americans; moreover a lot of Arab Americans are proud to be listed by this organization; just go and check their site. But, most importantly this category groups together Americans whose origins are from the Arab world, Miss world Wikipedia is meant to be inclusive. The categories are there for readers to view articles of people from similar origins. Therefore you have the Lebanese category, the Syrian category, the Christian category. Would you accept it if some other troll editor came along and decided to remove the Christian category on all Arab Christians? on the basis that there's no evidence that the person in question identifies as Christian. Miss world I hope you understand and can come to your senses and understand what you are doing is against Wikipedia's inclusive policy.If you don't then you will force me to seek help in stopping your disruptive edits. I come to you first as a sign of good gesture.George Al-Shami (talk) 04:32, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Kataeb
Salut! Another article to keep an eye on. -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk]  08:07, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Cool! I added them to my watchlist, and will be keeping an eye on them. By the way, here are a few barnstars in recognition of your efforts in Egyptian-related articles :) Keep it up! -- <span lang="cop-Copt" xml:lang="cop-Copt" style="font-size:125%;line-height:150%;font-family:'New Athena Unicode', 'MPH 2B Damase', 'Arial Coptic', 'Quivira', 'Analecta';">Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk]  15:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)




 * De rien kteer :) I worked a little bit on pan-Arabism. Let me know what you think. -- <span lang="cop-Copt" xml:lang="cop-Copt" style="font-size:125%;line-height:150%;font-family:'New Athena Unicode', 'MPH 2B Damase', 'Arial Coptic', 'Quivira', 'Analecta';">Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk]  04:32, 25 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, I don't understand why there are 2 different articles on pan-Arabism and Arab nationalism!!! I really think both should be merged together. What do you think? -- <span lang="cop-Copt" xml:lang="cop-Copt" style="font-size:125%;line-height:150%;font-family:'New Athena Unicode', 'MPH 2B Damase', 'Arial Coptic', 'Quivira', 'Analecta';">Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk]  04:37, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

The education of Yasmina continues
Yasmina concerning Gibran's birthplace, we have already argued and come to a compromise, by placing his historical birthplace first and the term modern lebanon second. If you want to see what NPOV is about go check the George Washington article and see what Wikipedia editors have listed as his birthplace. You will notice, honey, that he WAS NOT born in the United States, that's because when he was born it did not exist! Do you get that, or do you want me to explain it to you further. Washington was born in the 13 Colonies, he became American when he helped create it that state, but at the time of his birth it did not exist. Moreover if you do something called "research" you will find out that Gibran was a die-hard Syrian nationalist. I saw your edits on the pan-arabism article and I was really disgusted at your edits, editors like you are seriously damaging Wikipedia. I did not revert, but these edits have to be checked out. Yasmina, respectfully, check how other more experienced editors edit. I'm pretty sure you are a nice person and it hurts me to to talk you in a blunt manner, but your extreme naive POV edits compels me to. This is why I mentioned Skype before, because there are so many things I want to explain to you.George Al-Shami (talk) 22:52, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Yale source is good
Congrats you found an appropriate source. Your accusation of "racism" doesn't hold when speaking about Lebanon, Syria or Egypt, but the factual racism is taking place in Sudan. So if you want to add more to that section, I suggest you read about what's happening in Sudan. The government in that country is killing Black Africans who are not "Arab".George Al-Shami (talk) 00:57, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank you!
I wanted to extend my gratitude to your wonderful work on Pan Arabism, may God bless you, shukran!

Long live Lubnan!

BTW, Yes, the larges RACIST crime is in Sudan by Arabs upon non-Arabs!

Toothie3 (talk) 04:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

February 2010
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Pan-Arabism. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. When in dispute with another editor you should first try to discuss controversial changes to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Should that prove unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. Please stop the disruption, otherwise you may be blocked from editing. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"> nableezy  - 21:47, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Why should I get blocked when its the vandal who keeps reverting sourced text. This is a cheap trick. I want to know whose I.P it is that is keeps reverting my edits? Its clearly someone wants to cover up the article from the truth♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 21:51, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
 * I gave the same warning to the IP, relax. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"> nableezy  - 21:52, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

ANI
An issue you have been involved in has been brought to AN/I. You can see this here <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap"> nableezy  - 19:49, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

FYI
Salut! Une complainte contre toi par monsieur Shami. Je t'écris en Français, puisqu'il m'accuse d'être Arabe vue ma communication avec toi auparavant en cette maudite de langue :) -- <span lang="cop-Copt" xml:lang="cop-Copt" style="font-size:125%;line-height:150%;font-family:'New Athena Unicode', 'MPH 2B Damase', 'Arial Coptic', 'Quivira', 'Analecta';">Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk]  00:58, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

mon française n'est pas bon mais j'ai besoin de la pratique anyway despite my rusty french lol yes this is very cowardly what those pan-arabists did, they didnt even have the face to bring that thread to me personally instead behind my back. THEY are the racists with clear biases.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 01:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Re: Hannah Arendt's 'the origins of totalitarianism' & Fascism / Pan Arabism I just added the following link on the talk page: 

Toothie3 (talk) 07:32, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

I see Nableezy & the famous Malik Shabbaz (from other Islamic edits...) are at it again at the Pan Aerabism page.

Wishing you a great weekend.

Toothie3 (talk) 03:12, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Biased Arabic Wikipedia Template
Hello! I am requesting a re-evaluation of the unfounded deletion of my personal space page about Arabic Wikipedia template. The request for re-evaluation can be found here. I would greatly appreciate your input in this matter. Thank you in advance. -- λⲁⲛτερⲛιξ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk] 00:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Arab Christians and Arabic-speaking Christians
Firstly, thanks for the input about the template :)

Secondly, more vandalism by our friend (who I'm pretty sure is the same person as George Shami) on Arab Christians and Arabic-speaking Christians. It's mostly about Lebanese stuff, so I'll let you lead :)

Thanks again! -- λⲁⲛτερⲛιξ <sup style = "color: #666666;">[talk] 07:51, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Seriously that guy doesnt give up, he must of thought we left the article for good ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 10:38, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Civility
Hello. You've been editing for a couple of years so I'm sure you're familiar with many of Wikipedia's policies. I would like to request that you read two policies: WP:CIVILITY and No personal attacks. While on RC Patrol I came across Talk:Arab Christians and Arabic-speaking Christians. I want to say from the beginning that I have no background in that topic and no idea who is right or wrong about the article contents. That's not why I'm here. I dropped by to make sure you know of the civility policies, and to point out that the community considers civility to be one of the five pillars of Wikipedia. While reading that talk page I noticed that the editor whom you disagree with always discusses the content, while you often include barbs or personal attacks in your comments. Please keep in mind that we are all expected to discuss the content, not the editor. Thank you. 152.16.59.102 (talk) 06:09, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

The person in question is looking for a needless edit war on purpose merely because they are a brainwashed racist i am sorry but just read the attacks they sent on me. Civility? the person in question accused me and another user of being socks and tried to get me suspended merely because they dont want to have that section in the article due to their own POV and is purposely vandalising my section of the article. ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 09:08, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I understand that you have a difference of opinion and a contentious history with that editor, but please abide by Wikipedia policies. Another person's actions do not excuse personal attacks on your part.  You alone are responsible for the words that you place on Wikipedia pages.  Please do not make personal attacks on other editors.  Please discuss the content, not the editor.  152.16.59.102 (talk) 09:19, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

March 2010
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Arab Christians and Arabic-speaking Christians, you will be blocked from editing. This is a warning that you will be reported if such disruptive editing continues. See here 0005 for why your edit is being considered vandalism. --Qvxz9173 (talk) 01:27, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Block me? your the one who should be blocked. You are the vandalist not me I remember very well what you wrote about Christians who reject the Arab label. ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 02:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

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This MY page dont think you can tell me what I can say on my own talk page or think you have nerve to warrant me when you are the vandal with senseless edits due to your own brainwashed ideals as your previous edits which you reffered to others in an article as bigots and racists. Please I know your agenda your not alone. ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

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Sorry I didn't notify you. Just got sick of it all. See talk page. Hobit (talk) 13:14, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 48 hours to prevent further disruption caused by your engagement in an edit war&#32;at Arab Christians and Arabic-speaking Christians. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below.  Sandstein  05:44, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Seriously I dont care if I am blocked if they are blocked too than good its long overdue that page hadnt been touched for over a month after the protection yet they purposely distorted the information to drag it to an edit war after the edits that person put in the article I am shocked they havent been warranted before .but stop this person from harrasing and wikihounding me! I am fed up♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2010 (UTC)


 * You are blocked from editing. Until that is resolved, there is nothing else that can be done. You may appeal the block, as outlined above.  Chzz  ►  11:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Did you not Listen to my complain or even bother to read it? I am not complainig about the block I am complaining about the fact this user keeps harrasing me. thats my problem. Even now they are trying to drag another sock case against me and another user which has already been proven false--♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 11:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Could you please clarify and specify the alleged harassment, so that we can investigate. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  12:21, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

First of all this person has an obsession with trailing my edits go on the page and ONLY focuses their attention on disrupting the section I have been edited on and takes away sources or misues them to undermine the section. The article after protection had been pretty much not touched until HE started playing the same games again to incite an editing war.Also it's worth noting the section I created in the article is perhaps ONLY part of it that has sources and citations.  Here on the talk board he ONLY focueses attention on my sources and citation when the fact is and when I answer back to justify my edits he doesnt respond or states I am cluterring the page just for me defending myself. 

This is one of the many complaints he has put against me

During my editing he purposely placed these hateful edits of vandalism (In an Article) which were no doubt were directed at me and another user who he is obsessed with (even though proven otherwise) he thinks is my sock. He cannot accept the fact that there are christians who reject the arab label and he is very bitter about this that is why he keeps edit warring with me because does not want to let that information come out. He is also bitter about the title of the article being added Arabic speaking Christians form the lone Arab Christians he wants it changed again. 

When awrongful revert complaint was made against me by Hobit the user openly admitted they were hoping for my block even there was no case against me that I think this is what motivated him to provoke an edit war with me thinking he do that then complain about that then i would be blocked for editing since he admitted that was his inention.However it's partially backfired and he is blocked aswell.

 They trailed comments I made with another user and accused us both being socks they questioned my baptisim and my religious beliefs as dubious and tried to argue I was not a Christian (in case about sock accounts not religious beliefs). Even after this case was proven false they still are now accusing me and the user of being socks of the same this shows how far this person's paranoia towards me is. --♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 18:29, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Use the unblock template. Do not misuse the adminhelp one.  fetch  comms  ☛ 20:15, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Did you even bother to read my original post above? or just skimmed it? this has nothing to do with the blocking thing I am making a complaint of harrasment! Dont you understand I am not complaining about the block I am complaining about harrasment here! i honestly dont care about the block since that person was blocked too but this harrasment this person who continues to wikihound me has to stop!♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 21:10, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi there! I saw the copy of the above message, on my talk page. There is nothing that I can personally, directly do - but, I suggest that you follow Harrassment - in the first instance, this looks more like disagreement about content than anything else, so if you could stay calm and follow the suggestions in WP:DISPUTE - such as, asking for a third opinion, or perhaps asking the WP:Mediation Cabal for help. The more formal methods are also explained in the links; I hope this helps. Best of luck,  Chzz  ►  09:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Tweedy
Cheryl Tweedy has officially divorced Ashley Cole. We should therefore reflect the change on the Cheryl Cole page.

82.44.44.49 (talk) 18:10, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

I think you mean seperated,I heard she hasnt filed the divorce case yet if even she did file for divorce now it takes 2-3 months (quikie as they call it) to finish and a six week period to be finalized. Even so she may chose to keep the surname for comericial purposes like Demi Moore did keep the first name of her 1st husband for stage purposes. ♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 11:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

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Hey grl, first of i gotta say, you are a feisty one! Hehe i may share a lot of beliefs with you but my policy is to stay clear from controversial issues if i cant find a compromise that satisfies either side. Bannout i have been participating in a forum lately, a very lively one hosted on skyscrapercity.com, the forum is technical it deals w lebanese architecture and projects... But it slso has many subforums where many topics are discussed, the forumers there spend a lot of time on the unternet some are very motivated, well travelled and well educated, they can be great addition here, but we need to lure them in, we already created a thread there that deals with wikipedia including article request and such, i need to make it come alive and i need your help. Go to this page [www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=694 lebanob forum],join the forum and drop me a message, u will easily find me i hv the same username, your first contributions there will have to be moderated, dont worry. Dont forget to spread the word to all the lebanese wikipedians u know. Please reply on my talk page. Eli +  08:57, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

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The article DID have references before but I think ages agop they got deleted. Why should I add references to a page when they will get deleted by some random user or some bot?--♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 00:14, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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