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This Month in GLAM: October 2016
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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins
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Please note that TOTP based two-factor authentication is now available for all administrators. In light of the recent compromised accounts, you are encouraged to add this additional layer of security to your account. It may be enabled on your preferences page in the "User profile" tab under the "Basic information" section. For basic instructions on how to enable two-factor authentication, please see the developing help page for additional information. Important: Be sure to record the two-factor authentication key and the single use keys. If you lose your two factor authentication and do not have the keys, it's possible that your account will not be recoverable. Furthermore, you are encouraged to utilize a unique password and two-factor authentication for the email account associated with your Wikimedia account. This measure will assist in safeguarding your account from malicious password resets. Comments, questions, and concerns may be directed to the thread on the administrators' noticeboard. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:33, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

A new user right for New Page Patrollers
Hi.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins) .MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

New Page Review needs your help
Hi ,

As an AfC reviewer you're probably aware that a new user right has been created for patrolling new pages (you might even have been granted the right already, and admins have it automatically).

Since July there has been a very serious backlog at Special:NewPagesFeed of over 14,000 pages, by far the worst since 2011, and we need an all out drive to get this back down to just a few hundred that can be easily maintained in the future. Unlike AfC, these pages are already in mainspace, and the thought of what might be there is quite scary. There are also many good faith article creators who need a simple, gentle push to the Tea House or their pages converted to Draft rather than being deleted. Although New Page Reviewing can occasionally be somewhat more challenging than AfC, the criteria for obtaining the right are roughly the same. The Page Curation tool is even easier to use than the Helper Script, so it's likely that most AfC reviewers already have more than enough knowledge for the task of New Page Review.

It is hoped that AfC reviewers will apply for this right at WP:PERM and lend a hand. You'll need to have read the page at WP:NPR and the new tutorial.

(Sent to all active AfC reviewers) MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:33, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

The Challenge Series
The Challenge Series is a current drive on English Wikipedia to encourage article improvements and creations globally through a series of 50,000/10,000/1000 Challenges for different regions, countries and topics. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are invited to participate.


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DYK for Ayodele Casel
— Maile (talk) 00:01, 20 November 2016 (UTC)

December 2016 at Women in Red
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BBC 12-hour Editathon - large influx of new pages & drafts expected
AfC Reviewers are asked to be especially on the look out 08:00-20:00 UTC (that's local London time - check your USA and AUS times) on Thursday 8 December for new pages. The BBC together with Wikimedia UK is holding a large 12-hour editathon. Many new articles and drafts are expected. See BBC 100 Women 2016: How to join our edit-a-thon. Follow also on #100womenwiki, and please, don't bite the newbies :) (user:Kudpung for NPR. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: November 2016
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02:21:46, 12 December 2016 review of submission by John Warner Smith
You reviewed my submission and declined it because of lack of reliable sources. I respectfully request a re-review. All of the information in the submission is verificable through the reference sources that are cited. Can you be more specific and tell me what specific information in the submission is not verifiable through the reference sources indicated or give me more specific guidance on how to address the problem? Is there a problem with the format of the references sources? Thanks for your help.John Warner Smith (talk) 02:21, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

RE: Home Credit Philippines draft
Hello Missvain, thank you very much for your feedback on the draft, especially your advice on COI. I have disclosed the COI accordingly on the page, and hoping for further advice-- should I abandon this draft altogether due to COI, or should I still wait for the result of the draft review? Please note that COI notwithstanding, I have made a conscious effort to revise the draft based on Wikipedia's content guidelines, as well as based on helpful feedback given by Nyttend (talk) and Abdullah Alam (talk) on earlier versions of the draft. Thanks again.

Jbmangahas (talk) 07:39, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Request on 12:52:16, 12 December 2016 for assistance on AfC submission by Anildemirezen
Hello, my page is constantly getting rejected, but I cannot clearly understand the reason. The only way I can show sources on my article is the newspaper articles released online, and reliable web pages.

I also look for similar articles which are online on WikiPedia, and those pages have the similar sourcing ways and titles. I did my best to create the most reliable article by taking those similar online pages as examples, but though they're already approved on Wiki, my page keeps getting rejected.

And the rejection causes are not clearly stated. I am a new user on WikiPedia, and it's a bit hard for me to understand the long articles on sourcing. Please tell me what is wrong on my page and I'll do the corrections.

Thanks.

Anildemirezen (talk) 12:52, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Thank you and update re draft submission:David Breskin
Hello Missvain,

Thank you for bringing to my attention the necessity for a COI disclosure. My apologies, I had no idea that this was necessary when submitting an article about a notable person in which all statements are substantiated and referenced. Now I know! I am a brand new editor on Wikipedia so learning this process has been challenging.

I have added a COI disclosure in the Edit note section. I hope that is the correct way to handle it?

At this point, is it up to you or to me to remove the COI alert you added at the top of my submission? I appreciate your guidance as to how I can put my best foot forward with getting approval for this new article submission.

Thank you for any advice!

Cahadley (talk) 23:44, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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Draft:David Breskin
Hello Missvain,

Thank you for reviewing the new article draft I submitted, draft:David Breskin. I read that you have a concern about a conflict of interest and wanted to ask for your help in clarifying.

In researching Wikipedia entries in advance of creating this new article, I read through countless Wikipedia articles written for associates of David Breskin in the music business that were clearly generated by the artist him/herself, the record company that put out the CDs and albums, or by colleagues or friends.

Every new recording that comes out for David Breskin's associate, Nels Cline, for instance, is immediately given its own Wikipedia page, which was clearly written by a business associate, friend, or record label of his. For example, his new album (which David Breskin produced) called Lovers:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lovers_(Nels_Cline_album)

Given all this, I am very confused after reading the COI policy you've posted, as there are clearly so many examples of articles written by someone who knows the subject in some way. Just because an article is created by someone known to the subject does not make the subject any less notable. Also, there is zero commercial angle for an entry for David Breskin, as he has nothing to sell, as opposed to the articles for these new albums such as the one I've shown you.

David Breskin has published nearly 30 records with critically acclaimed avant-garde musicians since the early 80s, he's published 8 books with major publishing houses like Faber & Faber and Penguin, and collaborated with prominent, internationally known artists such as Ed Ruscha, Gerhard Richter, John Zorn, Bill Frisell, etc. All statements in the draft include references. Nearly all collaborators and projects have their own Wikipedia articles.

Am I correct in assuming that a subject who has this level of established notability should have a Wikipedia page, regardless of who submits the draft? Though I know David Breskin, I am not being paid to generate this article. I am doing it because there are so many countless books, records, magazine articles, etc that establish his notability and would be useful to the public if shared on this platform.

Thank you very much for your help. I understand you must be very busy.

All best.

Cahadley (talk) 21:55, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The draft in question is Draft:David Breskin. Thank you for commenting on the conflict of interest.  I have explained that I do not normally follow a draft through the approval process after I decline it once.  In this case, in particular, I will let other reviewers look at the draft.  Robert McClenon (talk) 17:42, 16 December 2016 (UTC)

Season's Greetings
Happy Holidays text.png Hello Missvain: Enjoy the holiday season, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, North America1000 15:30, 18 December 2016 (UTC)


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Festive greetings!
Women in Red logo.svg A barnstar of deep recognition for all your efforts on Women in Red throughout the year. Enjoy the end of year festivities and prepare to put more women on the world map in 2017. --Ipigott (talk) 08:58, 21 December 2016 (UTC)



14:05:51, 21 December 2016 review of submission by Rodoharris
I'm new to this and a little uncertain what to do when I finish making revisions to an article. 1. Do I remove your original comments and suggestions before submitting? 2. What is the code I am supposed to put at the bottom of the article when I submit it again? Or does it just appear when I click submit? I didn't add it the first time and waited 2 weeks to realize I needed to do that before submitting. :-)

Btw, thank you for all the help! Your comments were very instructive when you reviewed my article. Rodoharris (talk) 14:05, 21 December 2016 (UTC)

DGG talk page article subject where you're the deleting admin (back in 2012)
Hi Missvain,

Picking up from a conversation on DGG's talk page you're the deleting admin on Samir Becic, based on a 2012 November deletion discussion. I've drafted here User:DavidWestT/sandbox. Let me know if it's something you want to move to from draft space forward. DavidWestT (talk) 00:39, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry, merry!
From the icy Canajian north; to you and yours! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:15, 26 December 2016 (UTC)

January 2017 at Women in Red
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Happy 2017!
Wishing good health and happiness as we start the new year! --Rosiestep (talk) 19:17, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: December 2016
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Image contribution cheatsheet
Sarah (and also pinging ), I've been tasked as WIR for the Amon Carter Museum to create a simplified cheatsheet on image contribution and licensing issues and techniques for my museum and participants at our EaT's. But before doing so, I was wondering whether someone might have already done so for their institution. Are you aware of any such document that's already out there? Also, do any of you have any experience with the issue of just how picky Commons is about what person within an organization can give copyright persmission and, if they are picky, who they will accept? Best regards, TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 19:00, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi User:TransporterMan - Amon Carter is great! They have a wonderful collection. Excited to hear you are the new WiR! Let me think about the cheatsheet, one might exist. Regarding who they will accept permissions from - as a former WiR and a former OTRS agent, it really doesn't matter. As long as we can verify that the person is indeed affiliated with the institution, and it makes sense that they are giving permission (i.e. the permission is given by a collections manager or an administrator, versus the manager of the GLAM restaurant or the janitor ;-) then it isn't a big deal who signs off. Let me think about the cheatsheet, and we'll see what everyone else says! Missvain (talk) 20:48, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
 * About the "verify that the person is indeed affiliated with the institution" part: Is more needed than their email come from the institution's domain, e.g. xyz@cartermuseum.org? Something in an OTRS email to me makes me think that they only will accept emails from people named on the organization's website, but it's very ambiguous. So as not to hide the ball, you might also want to see the questions I've asked here. Best regards, TransporterMan  ( TALK ) 21:07, 13 January 2017 (UTC)

February 2017 at Women in Red
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Administrators' newsletter - February 2017
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2017). This first issue is being sent out to all administrators, if you wish to keep receiving it please subscribe. Your feedback is welcomed.

Administrator changes
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Guideline and policy news
 * A discussion to workshop proposals to amend the administrator inactivity policy at Wikipedia talk:Administrators has been in process since late December 2016.
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Technical news
 * When performing some administrative actions the reason field briefly gave suggestions as text was typed. This change has since been reverted so that issues with the implementation can be addressed. (T34950)
 * Following the latest RfC concluding that Pending Changes 2 should not be used on the English Wikipedia, an RfC closed with consensus to remove the options for using it from the page protection interface, a change which has now been made. (T156448)
 * The Foundation has announced a new community health initiative to combat harassment. This should bring numerous improvements to tools for admins and CheckUsers in 2017.

Arbitration
 * The Arbitration Committee released a response to the Wikimedia Foundation's statement on paid editing and outing.

Obituaries
 * JohnCD (John Cameron Deas) passed away on 30 December 2016. John began editing Wikipedia seriously during 2007 and became an administrator in November 2009.

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JPOST and RS
On the Linda Sarsour page you made a statement that the JPOST is not a reliable source for Wikipedia. I would suggest you read up on WP:RS and WP:V before you do any admin work removing JPOST as a reference used in articles. Sir Joseph (talk) 20:19, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * User:Sir Joseph - thanks for visiting my talk page. If you review my writing, I follow up stating that JPost (which I use as a reference source!) should not be used for this particular "fact" (the Hamas connections) because all JPOSt is doing is sourcing an unreliable, Libertarian publication. That makes the specific article unreliable. Thanks for editing Wikipedia! Missvain (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, I'm glad for that. I'm sorry for coming off harsh, but there have been cases where people claimed that JPOST can't be used as a source merely because it's the Jpost. Sir Joseph (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: January 2017
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Clarissa Minnie Thompson Allen
I found a lovely source, that I am scouring for red links and it has PHOTOS! Noted that you had done this one. Book may have some info for you to glean with the photo I added. SusunW (talk) 01:01, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Wow, very cool. Thanks for finding that photo! Right now I'm focusing on African American women visual artists, so I"ll see if there is anything in that source!! Missvain (talk) 01:17, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Varnette Honeywood.jpg


A tag has been placed on File:Varnette Honeywood.jpg requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section F7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a non-free file with a clearly invalid licensing tag; or it otherwise fails some part of the non-free content criteria. If you can find a valid tag that expresses why the file can be used under the fair use guidelines, please replace the current tag with that tag. If no such tag exists, please add the Non-free fair use tag, along with a brief explanation of why this constitutes fair use of the file. If the file has been deleted, you can re-upload it, but please ensure you place the correct tag on it.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Whpq (talk) 02:34, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Maids and Music.jpg
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If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:30, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Dear MissVain
Hello, I have been doing some work with the articles on the new pages feed. I have noticed a few articles you have created about notable paintings. I am impressed with your creations, and was wondering if you are working within a project or something. I have been wanting to start creating some articles. Can you refer me to some kind of a list of needed articles, or project, or give me an idea on how to get started? Thank you. Antonioatrylia (talk) 07:02, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi User:Antonioatrylia! Cool that you have taken interest! Thanks for noticing :) I'm doing a lot of work on things from the Metropolitan Museum of Art, among other collections. The Met just released data CC0 - read more here. My friend and colleague User:Jane023 created a list of works that can use Wikipedia articles from the Met. The links to go to Wikidata, but, you can see what piece has articles in other languages, or not, and links to the artwork on the Met website. Feel free to look at examples of the paintings I have done to find inspiration for layout and information. Take a look at Jane's list here: here. Also, WikiProject Met has started, and activities will begin soon. You can sign up here: GLAM/Metropolitan Museum of Art. Welcome aboard!! Missvain (talk) 18:19, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Page watcher, comment... Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red has many, many lists of redlinked women artists, see: WikiProject Women in Red/Art, if you are interested in biographies. We will also be conducting an Art+Feminism virtual editathon next month in celebration of International Women's Day/Month. SusunW (talk) 18:58, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you both for the information. I have signed on at the Met event page today. I am going to read over the list that Jane023 has prepared and look over some more of the painting articles. This looks like fun and a good way to share art to our readers. I will be happy to pitch in, but I may have more questions. lol I will also look over the Women in red pages. Thanks! Antonioatrylia (talk) 23:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for your awesome service
Thank you for your awesome service to WiR creating 800 articles. Netherzone (talk) 03:04, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Help me librarian
Do not delete the page Frany Dejota, help me to keep it and provide information and references about the artist, thanks, MiguelG28 MigueG28 (talk) 16:20, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

2017 Art And Feminism Wikipedia Editathon @ CCA
Hi Missvain Got your note on the CCA A+F Meetup page, fabulous that you will help with clean up and wikidata! Would you also follow this link and sign in here SF CCA A+F? The ArtandFeminism people will be collecting data about A+F editing from here, rather than the Meetup pages, this year. Looking forward to editing with you! Jscarboro (talk) 19:11, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

This Month in GLAM: February 2017
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Precious two years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:20, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Lucie Rie Photograph.jpg
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Delilah W. Pierce
Hallo. From the deletion log of Delilah W. Pierce (see) it look like you merged the article to Delilah Pierce - with this edit (maybe). I can not see the deleted content, but if it was merged it should be undeleted (or the other article should be deleted too). See Copying within Wikipedia. Christian75 (talk) 21:39, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
 * any relevant information has been merged - a simple and copy and paste. Cheers! Missvain (talk) 21:55, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Lumigon


The article Lumigon has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing General notability guideline and the more detailed Notability (companies) requirement. If you disagree and deprod this, please explain how it meets them on the talk page here in the form of "This article meets criteria A and B because..." and ping me back through WP:ECHO or by leaving a note at User talk:Piotrus. Thank you.

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Nomination of Arizmendi Bakery for deletion
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The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Arizmendi Bakery& until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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Joanelle Romero edits reverted
Hello Missvain,

I fully understand the reason for deleting a copyrighted photo of Joanelle Romero and consequently appreciate your edit.

At the same time, you have deleted the brief record about the film The Girl Called Hatter Fox, which was not only the first film Romero took part in, but also the first film a Native American played a leading role in, and therefore worth noting.

I believe I am free to restore my edit.

Doctor Gregory (talk) 13:09, 22 March 2017 (UTC)