User talk:Moni3/Archive 2

You are most welcome
...all in a day's work!-- K u k i ni  hablame aqui 17:36, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Ann Bannon peer review
Hi Moni3, Just to let you know I left some comments at the peer review for the Ann Bannon article. I just put down some things that struck me while reading it, trying to remember what people have said when I've put articles into peer review. It's looking really good though and I think should be ready for Good Article submission soon. Also, I read somewhere else you said that you're a really huge fan of Bannon, so don't be discouraged by my mentioning POV, you've done a great job! I don't know if you've seen these links, but they may be of some help: User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a, User:Jengod/Some common objections to featured status and how to avoid them. They're aimed at getting articles to Featured status, but are useful at all stages. It'd be great to see this article become featured at some point. I was just going to recommend you list it at biography peer review, but I see you have, so I apologise if I'm repeating anything from there. -- Beloved Freak  20:41, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I am indeed a huge fan of hers. Including all that criticism was an effort. I don't mind the POV nudges. I'd love to see this article featured. Thanks again. I'll do my research before trying to submit for GA status. --Moni3 22:23, 29 September 2007 (UTC)Moni3

Commons
I don't think it should be too hard to move them to Commons (though to be fair I've never done it myself). I found these instructions. You need to register yourself at Commons (pretty easy) and use a tool to fill in the license info and image description and complete the move. I'm only interested in the two GNU Bannon pics you've got (I believe they are eligible for Commons with that license), so you won't have to undergo any more Fair Use crap trouble. ;-) I really appreciate you taking the effort to do it. :-) If you need any help whatsoever, or want me to translate all your articles to es: wiki (hehe) drop me a line. ;-) Cheers Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  08:03, 6 October 2007 (UTC) Do I read correctly? You actually email regularly with Ann Bannon? Wow!
 * Thanks for the instructions! I hope the pics stay up and are relatively hassle-free. I'm not sure what other of my articles have significance in Spanish. I know that Marijane Meaker has had books translated into Spanish, at least as ME Kerr (and is linked by Bannon's article). I do trade occasional emails with Bannon. I'm humbled by it. Thanks again for the translation. --Moni3 01:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * Thank you SO much! :-) What a difference a few pictures make to an article! And this will benefit many other Wikipedias which do not allow Fair Use (especially when this article becomes a FA and everyone will covet it hee hee). Listen, could I bother you one last time to include another GNU pic that escaped my notice, this one? Pretty please? :-) I can try to translate the Meaker article too, after I finish with the Beebo Brinker saga hehe. You know, you could nominate the Bannon article for GA, possibly for FAC in the near future. You're really doing an amazing job Moni, it's a pleasure to take it to the Spanish wiki. :-) Cheers! Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  10:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll go ahead and load that one to WikiCommons as well. I'm not "finished" really with Marijane Meaker or the 5 books that Bannon wrote. There's so much involved in Meaker's children's books - and those are the ones that have been translated - and I can do much better on Bannon's books with the load of scholarly articles I read about them. I think Bannon's article alone will take some time for you to translate, so I hope that will give me time to improve all those articles.
 * I don't know if Bannon's article will make it to GA or FA - one of the peer-reviewers pointed out the biggest problem with it, which I knew about since I started it, is that the most information about her life is written or provided by her. This causes a problem with verifiability. Still, I like the article itself and I think I'll nominate it, but if it stays a B rated article, I'm ok with it. Thanks for all your hard work. (I noticed in the Spanish version her birth year was given as 1952, though. Fortunately, all I can read to correct are numbers.) You're doing an amazing job yourself! --Moni3 13:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * Raystorm crawls under a rock after the HUGE mistake on Bannon's b-day* Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  14:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ha! Don't worry about it. I can't believe some of the weird crap I write when I go back and read it the next day. --Moni3 14:20, 7 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * I finished the traslation! Yay! :-D I'm gonna nominate it for GAC, at the very least it should provide pointers on ways and angles to continue developing the article. Maybe you should just bite the bullet and go for it too, the PR seems kinda quiet lately, and it ought to give you more helpful feedback. ;-) Cheers! Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  11:11, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Sweet! Actually, driving down the street the other day I was thinking that of Bannon's personal life, she is the primary source. For a living person, this is probably the best source to use, since no one would really dispute her claims. For the notability and legacy of her work, though, I used multiple references, so this seems better to me, and I'm more comfortable considering nominating it for a GA. Super job on the translation. I think it looks awesome! Yay!!! --Moni3 12:04, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * Are you kidding me???? I should be the one giving you a barnstar for your superb work, not the other way round! Awwww!!! *Blushes* Thank you so very much, it's my very first barnstar..! :-D Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  16:39, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Aha! Way to go! ;-) Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  16:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * You deserve it. I just nominated the article for GA status. Writing that article was a lot of work and I loved every minute of it. Writing it was its own reward. And that was the first barnstar I've given. Yay! --Moni3 16:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

You'll post anything on Wikipedia for a quarter?
I've heard that Condoleezza Rice is a lesbian... I can source it just as well as Merv Griffin. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 15:11, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
 * My dad, who at one time was an agent for the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, told me that the Secret Service told him Hilary Clinton, in 1995 at least, always traveled with a female companion who had no specific task during travels, and was understood to be her girlfriend. Rampant rumor! Let me think if I want to get the entire WP:Alabama angry at me before I post something about Condoleezza Rice. (I read another story about her and the Prime Minister of Canada getting all smoochy, too). --Moni3 15:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

Birmingham campaign

 * Just wanted to let you know I'm grateful for all the work you're putting into this article. The subject deserves the full treatment you're giving it. --Dystopos 12:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Awesome. Yay! It certainly does. I worked on To Kill a Mockingbird, linked it from that article, and when I checked it later, I was floored, just stunned that it wasn't fully expanded, it wasn't under any projects, and it wasn't a hot topic. It freaked me out. I'm still working on it. It's a huge issue, so it might take me a while. Thanks, though! --Moni3 12:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

And the Band Played On...
Hi Moni3, I've just created an article for the film version of And the Band Played On. I've added a link to it in the film section of the book article, and I've removed the categories from that age that are specific to the film. The film section could maybe be shorter as a result, but I'll leave that up to you. I'll try and peer review the book article soon. -- Beloved Freak  21:15, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh, sweet. That's helpful. I haven't seen the film version or the documentary either, so I couldn't add to that portion of the article. Thanks so much! --Moni3 22:04, 12 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * OK I've reviewed it now. I'm not sure how helpful it will be. I'm not really that familiar with book articles & what they need, so I hope someone else reviews it too. Bear in mind I haven't read the book, but maybe that's a good thing because I came up with a couple of things the average uninformed reader might. Also, I mentioned "POV" a few times. I don't think it sounds too one sided or anything, but as we know, with topics like this, any slight hint of a POV will be challenged! Anyway, good luck with it, I hope you get it to GA. -- Beloved Freak  20:23, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I responded to this earlier and it doesn't show up. Wikipedia must have had a brain fart...Anyways, thanks for the peer review. I did what I could tonight. I can work on the other matters over the next several days. I very much appreciate your help. Thanks so much! --Moni3 01:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

Woohoo!
Ann Bannon is now a GA in the Spanish wiki! *High fives Moni* ;-D Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  23:34, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
 * That is way cool! Yay! I continue to wait patiently for English Wikipedia, but I do not have high hopes. --Moni3 12:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * I see it's now GA on the English Wikipedia. Well done Moni3, you've done a great job! -- Beloved Freak  13:41, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! And for the peer review! Yay!! --Moni3 13:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

Moni rocks!
Yay!! Thanks so much! w00t! --Moni3 19:20, 20 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3

Thanks for your work on To Kill a Mockingbird
I wanted to let you know, our disagreement about the one issue notwithstanding, you are doing good work on TKaM. Keep it up, as WP can always use good editors like you. I do hope I did not seem too contentious in our discussion on the matter. Also, I wanted to thank you for pointing out my oversight in not having the Birmingham campaign on my watchlist. That is an oversight that has now been rectified. Keep up the good work! K. Scott Bailey 03:22, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I appreciate your comments very much. I began editing TKaM over a year ago when it was a veritable free-for-all, before it became a semi-protected page, before the rules of no original research, and I couldn't keep up with the daily changes it went through and had to stop trying to edit it. I know the page is watched by dozens of editors here, so I've been surprised that I've been quite alone in amending it. I haven't even made anyone angry by rewriting large parts of it. Yours was the first challenge to anything I was doing to it.
 * Don't just yet mark fact tags in Birmingham campaign. I have a lot of work left to do for that one. Rather, a lot of work remains to be done. Hopefully not by me alone. Again, thanks for your comments.  --Moni3 03:38, 26 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * I call it like I see it, so it's easy to make good comments about good editors like you. As for the BC, the articles on my watch list are articles that I mainly try to protect from vandalism when I'm working on my own pet projects (currently Tom Dula, if you want to check it out). I can not STAND vandals, so I've made it a bit of a mission to thwart them at every turn on articles I care about for one reason or another. TKaM happens to be one of those articles, so I had my eye on it. I noticed all of your changes, and they all appeared to be solid changes, done in good faith. I just noticed that one part that seemed off a bit, and I felt that the article would be improved a bit by removing it. Again, I apologize if I seemed overly-contentious, as that was NOT my intent at all. Hope things go well for you at the BC article, and I'll try to assist you by protecting it from the vandals as I have the chance. Regards, K. Scott Bailey 03:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

The Original Barnstar, for your work on To Kill a Mockingbird

 * This barnstar was an easy call, based not only upon your good work on TKaM, but also on your general body of work as well. You're a good Wikipedian, that's for certain. Yours is the first barnstar I have awarded in my time on the project, so I don't give them lightly. Why would you be shocked at it? Perhaps I was far more contentious in the TKaM discussion than I intended to be... K. Scott Bailey 04:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ha. You weren't that contentious, any more than I got stubborn that someone was editing my work after months of being given free reign to do whatever I wanted, it seemed. No, I'm surprised not because it's coming from you, but because TKaM is for some inexplicable reason, a little forgotten. For it being as widely read as I know it is, I guess I'm more shocked that it was in the shape it was in and I was the only person doing anything to it. I'm no literary scholar by any means, but that is rather the beauty of Wikipedia: that nobodies like me can not only write knowledgeable material, but by it being so widely read that it can serve to shape the perception of a topic. It's quite daunting to realize that thousands of students are plagiarizing my edits for their English assignments. My passion; their grade.
 * Thanks again. I don't take the reception of an original barnstar lightly. Especially for an article like TKaM. I'm going to do whatever I can to get it featured. --Moni3 04:24, 26 October 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * No problem. I am currently reading TKaM to my students in middle school language arts, so I too have a passion for the book. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help. K. Scott Bailey 04:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Lesbian
In pondering your posts about GA, I noticed three sections had been blanked from the article a few weeks ago and because of the editing sequence had never gotten restored. So... thanks for bringing up GA and... please have another look at the article! Cheers! Gwen Gale 12:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Non-superficial input into TKAM
If you want some more engaging input than a discussion of fair-use rationales, try asking someone like Awadewit for comments. This could, for example, be framed in the context of a Peer review. Geometry guy 21:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I asked for a peer review of the article a couple months ago. One user replied, suggesting I find more sources, particularly a source of which I had already cited five times. Awadewit has reviewed another article of mine and gave very good suggestions. I believe TKaM is a good article, though. I think it deserves the GA status and will work toward getting it featured. Thank you for the suggestion. --Moni3 00:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * I was just about to post a new thread here regarding this very thing. I'm not certain how helpful the current reviewer is, in this case. First, there was the confusing request to "source" the plot summary. Then there was the odd request to prove that Harper Lee is notable. As I'm completely unfamiliar with the GA process, I was going to ask if we couldn't request a different reviewer. What are your thoughts on this? Though I've spent a decent amount of time on this article, I haven't put nearly the effort that you have, so whatever you want to do about it, is fine by me. K. Scott Bailey 04:35, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I brought this up at the GA Review talk page a couple days ago, which prompted I guess, a little bit more participation from some of the GA reviewers I recognize. For now, at least, I'm just going to wait and see what happens. If it passes, then good. It should, and I don't care how. It's a very good article. If we have to jump through a bunch of other weird hoops I might give the talk page another shout out. --Moni3 04:42, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * I should have known you'd already be on it. I feel like I should be doing more to help you out, but I'm thinking I'd probably just be "in the way." You're doing a great job at TKaM, and I'm sure it will be up for FA (and will pass) in no time. Keep it up! K. Scott Bailey 04:58, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I do appreciate the support and the help. The article looks quite nice with the rearranging you've done. I look forward to preparing it for FA very soon. Thanks again. --Moni3 13:03, 7 November 2007 (UTC)Moni3
 * It's been a pleasure working alongside you a bit on this article. I'm actually getting a bit excited to see how the GA Review turns out. I'm just sure it will pass! K. Scott Bailey 00:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It's been a pleasure here as well. I'm going to work on a few other articles and come back and try to tackle it for feature. Rock on! --Moni3 02:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)Moni3

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 * I like the rewording of the Capote sentence. It didn't flow well with "tentatively", but I can see what you were saying about the inaccuracy of the sentence, had you not reworked it. Cheers! K. Scott Bailey 04:16, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time &mdash; get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!

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Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes.

Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.

"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.

Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?

Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.

Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).

Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.

Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.

This month's Wiki stars
Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!!

And the Oscar goes to...
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.

Leather and lace
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!

Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).

Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. - In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Kisses,

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