User talk:NantonosAedui

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Gaulish
hi NAe, and thanks. Yes, I think more references will be helpful. Also, I think we should make perfectly clear that the P/Q grouping is ahistorical, and not used anymore by linguists for being useless (the Q>P change is just too trivial once the P phoneme went missing). regards, dab (&#5839;) 18:40, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * no problem, I'll get back to you. Does your reference really say "British (ie, Gaulish)"? I.e. you entirely reject Insular Celtic? I'm sorry, I didn't even know that position existed. dab (&#5839;) 20:17, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * thank you, I appreciate your style of coming up front with references from the beginning. The *mabos and maqqos are not "my" forms, they just crept back in when I was reverting your statement that Welsh is descended from Gaulish. I am not trying to censor this opinion, it's just that I wasn't aware that it had any notability, but I', happy to cite it as a possibility. After all, if we assume Proto-Celtic for 800 BC, and emigration to Britain for 500 BC, Proto-Insular-Celtic would be contemporary to the earliest Gaulish testimonies, and at that time, I very much assume mutual intellegibility. The q > p shift may well be areal, even including Umbrian. I do assume that for the time of ca. 600 BC to 400 BC, the tree model is inadequate, but Welsh is certainly not descended from Roman-Empire period Gaulish. I'll yet provide you with Insular Celtic common innovations, but I have to look them up. regards, dab (&#5839;) 07:59, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I was in a hurry with Mabon. Feel free to alter the description. I was going to add more details, but ultimately, the exact content is anyone's guess.... And, by all means add some lustful whorls, WP:NOT ;o) dab (&#5839;) 21:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Hi, I deleted the reference to Lepontic not because I don't think it's Continental Celtic (I tend to think it is, although Pasquale is convinced it isn't and has left a message on my talk page outlining his reasons), but because Gaulish language refers to Lepontic as a Gaulish dialect, so I thought it would be redundant (maybe even slightly self-contadictory) to include it in a list of other CC languages. --Angr/undefined 07:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Ligurian
Hi, your additions to Ligurian language look good; can you add the reference for Delamarre though please? Thanks! --Angr/undefined 07:22, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Does he mention his views of Ligurian in Dictionnaire de langue gauloise? I haven't seen it. --Angr/undefined 13:48, 12 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Is the mailing list readable on the WWW? If so you can use the template (see Template messages/Sources of articles for how to use the template). --Angr/undefined 14:13, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

I don't know these scholars by name, but I'm sure they exist. What I'm not sure of is whether any current scholars still propose that Ligurian was non-IE. Decius 16:16, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Dialects of Gaul
Thank you for your clarification, Nantonos, about which Whatmough claim you were saying is discredited. I quite agree. The dialects of Gaulish seem to have been singularly uniform, witness, for example, St. Jerome 's 4th c. AD testimony that the dialects of Ancyra (Galatia) and Treviri (Belgica) were very close and mutually intelligible (in fact, Galatian seems to have been specifically a Belgic dialect). However, one has to exclude from this close relationship BOTH Celtiberian and the other Celtic languages of the ancient Iberian peninsula (except for the belated Gaulish penetration in NE Catalonia) AND Lepontic, regardless of whether one wishes to support the currently (since about 1970) prevailing view that it was a Celtic language or the earlier prevailing view that it was "Ligurian" or "para-Celtic" (where "para" means close to, but not quite). Again, those who consider "Lepontic" a Gaulish dialect are clearly referring to (Cisalpine) Gaulish, of which a few inscriptions are extant, written in the same "alphabet of Lugano" used for Lepontic. The two cannot be confused as they have quite different phonology and morphology (e.g. preservation of final -m in Lepontic vs. final -n in Gaulish, 3sg preterite ending -e in Lepontic vs. -u in Gaulish, just to mention two of the most obvious and firmly established features).

I would also like to put in my five-cents worth on the Insular/Continental vs. P-Celtic/Q-Celtic controversy. While, of course, I accept in theory that the *kw > *p change may have occurred independently or areally, I think the burden of proof rests on those who support this view. Barring evidence to the contrary, the single isogloss view remains the more viable hypothesis. The Insular Celtic shared innovations adduced by the proponents of an Insular Celtic branch are mostly if not entirely late proto-historic or even historic. Personally, I hold the view that Q-Celtic is indeed a branch of Celtic which includes:

(1) Celtiberian;

(2) the other Celtic languages of ancient Iberia, although exactly which ones these are is not clear at all; you see references to Gallaecian or Calaecian, and especially the Artabri and Nerii tribes, the Celtici of Baeturia and Baetica (see this very informative article ), other presumed tribal languages of Lusitania, although probably not Lusitanian proper, which seems to have preserved Indo-European *p (that would make it, guess what, Ligurian!), the primary example being PORCOM (a root, incidentally, also attested in Ligurian toponymy); in any case, the Lusitanian epigraphic corpus is currently divided in two geographic groups, North Lusitanian and South Lusitanian, apparently reflecting two different languages;

(3) Goidelic.

Pasquale 20:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

SVG
I agree with your subsequent edits regarding SVG 1.2 Full spec. By the way, you mentioned being the chair of the SVG WG. Does this mean you are Chris Lilley (who I've had numerous email conversations with) or that Chris has been replaced? Jeff schiller 19:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)


 * Chris, I hadn't planned specifically to add anything regarding CDF. Maybe that's the CDF WG job? ;) Jeff schiller 20:03, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

Celtic calendar
yes, I felt it was appropriate to draw attention to the similarities between insular and continental calendars. as to the age, if you consider the insular vs. continental split the first node, it will be the same age as Proto-Celtic. If you think that Celtiberian vs. Gaulish + Insular is the first node, it will be slightly younger. Maybe it would be better to say 500 BC, to be on the safe side? Anyway, it seems obvious that some sort of lunar calendar was observed during all of the Iron Age, but as it could only be "Celtic" from the time of Proto-Celtic, I think it makes sense that the celtic calendar in its earliest form would go back to Proto-Celtic, ca. 800 BC. This doesn't go for details like the intercalation, of course, concerning that we are completely in the dark, I suppose. dab (&#5839;) 16:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

Mórrígan
Just a quick word, because I'm busy writing a book with a well-known author on Goddesses: You were WAY off ion the etymology of Her name! There is no evidence that it may mean either "Terror" or "Phantom Queen" [at least not in the poejorative sense, in the case of the latter term, as so many pedantic Pagans seem to believe].

Take Care, Wade MacMorrighan [WiccanWade]


 * WiccanWade, if you look at the history of the page you can then accurately tell who made which contributions. You might want to talk to the people who contributed the etymology rather than whoever most recently edited the page :)

--Nantonos 22:00, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Disambiguating Celtic

 * Hi Nantonos and thanks for letting me know but I have to say that I can't really see the reasoning behind your edit. I think that someone clicking on Celtic tribe will expect to find themselves reading about Celts, not find themselves at List of peoples of Gaul even if the context happens to be a Gaulish tribe.  And Celt is an article, suitable for browsing, not just a list (always an advantage!).  If you strongly prefer linking to the list in this context, I won't raise further objections, but I do think you should reconsider the wording of the pipe. ~ Veledan • Talk + new 21:58, 7 September 2005 (UTC) p.s. I'm not a robot! (although I do like my new scripted edit summaries :-) ~ Veledan • Talk + new

My reasoning was precisely that of context; that Aedui is clarified by Celtic tribes of Gaul which is exactly what people will find out about by clicking on the link. I agree that Celt is an article, so putting that word somewhere else in the article on Dumnorix would be perfectly fine. --Nantonos 23:51, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

Abellio
My source for most of those was the Encyclopedia Mythica, here, but that doesn't mention Apollo. So, either Mythica has been modified or I got it from somewhere else, but whatever -- go ahead and remove it if you can find a reference for it. Tuf-Kat 22:31, September 8, 2005 (UTC)

Cimmerians
I didn't mean to imply that this is a scholarly position. Rather, I was guided by Cimmerians, according to which the Welsh (and others) have traditions claiming this connection. The kom-broges etymology in any case seems preferable. I don't know if the Frankish claim has any better basis, but in any case I find it intersting to see that the Cimmerians should have played such a role in European tradition. I don't know when these identifications appeared, i.e. if they are medieval, or connected with British Israelism. dab (&#5839;) 07:45, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Month
About removing the approximation by the Coligny calendar from the Month page: that particular section deals with the continued fractions approximations of the ratio of the tropical year to the lunar month. 62/5 is not a continued fraction of that ratio; I stated so in the edit history. If you want the Coligny calendar listed on the Month page I suggest you add a sub-section; other approximations have been used in other calendars. IMHO the reconstruction of the Coligny calendar is too disputed to state as a fact that its average year was 12.4 lunations. What strikes me is that all proposed interpretations are very poor lunar calendars, which systematically run out of sync with the real Moon fast. -- Tom Peters 11:43, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I propose we discuss this further on Talk:Month

Unitarianism
I believe that what 212.209.42.132 meant on Neopaganism by Uniterranism was Unitarianism, or Unitarian Universalism, which is indeed widespread. --Nantonos 20:08, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
 * I thought so at first as well, but if you look at the description of "Uniterranism" you'll see that it refers to non-Unitarian concepts such as "D. A. R. T." (which I've never heard of, and I was raised a UU). Even if that had been the intent, Unitarianism (the belief that Jesus Christ was human) is not a "related concept" to Neopaganism (which doesn't usually care what Jesus Christ was), and Unitarian Universalism is a specific church and not really a "related concept" either.  The "Uniterranism" reference was a link to Uniterranism which is a particular neopagan church and also not a "related concept".  DenisMoskowitz 21:26, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

Tarvos Trigaranos
No I'm not a bot I'm real. I was just trying to remove unnecessary categories or errors. As there is no Category:Celtic religion and it would probably too similar to Category:Celtic mythology to be useful I removed it. Category:Celtic gods may be a better category anyway. MeltBanana 22:41, 17 October 2005 (UTC)

Batavii
Hi!

You asked for my sources concerning the Batavi placing them in Yougoslavia, Hungary, Bavaria, etc.

On one word epigraphy

Check http://www.uni-heidelberg.de/institute/sonst/adw/edh/ and search for "batavorum". If you have more Epigraphic evidence, i'd be delighted. I should have mentioned it, of course. There are lost of inscriptions for "honesta missio", mentioning them.

85.113.253.250 19:43, 23 October 2005 (UTC)


 * OK, thanks. I was aware of EDH (but did not know they now had an English user interface for it). I still think that using more specific ancient place names would be better, and of course distinguishing between the tribe/nation/civitas on te one hand and military units on the other. --Nantonos 14:58, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

Celtic stuff
I'm not too sure where it mentioned that Scottish Gaelic was spoken in Northern England as it was only a library book...I'll try and get it out again ASAP. --- 09:37, 31 Dec 2005 (UTC) The Great Gavini ahoy ahoy?
 * Thanks! It seems unlikely, but you cited a source so I was unwilling to just edit it out.--Nantonos 18:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

Latin Translation
Hi there; do you have the translation of those latin encriptions about goddess Sequana? Thanks! Tonyjeff 20:51, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

Dalek edits
To a certain extent, the details are relevant, but only just, and in fact they are covered to a large extent in History of the Daleks. But I'll be happy to try and explain the reverts in detail:


 * 1) starring Sylvester McCoy as the seventh doctor. We don't really need to know that McCoy is the Seventh Doctor in this serial. At best, it should simply be "The Seventh Doctor serial, Remembrance of the Daleks. The edit as it stood conveyed enough information, because the point isn't about McCoy, but about the Dalek.
 * 2) Remembrance of the Daleks is also a vital episode in the 'evolution' of the daleks, in the form that this was the first episode that dismissed the jeering notion that a Dalek could be defeated by a flight of stairs. It also proves that the dalek's casing is prone to attack by electronically charged melee weapons. The flying Dalek was already covered at the start of the article under "Physical characteristics", and the second bit about the electrically charged melee weapons is factually wrong, since the baseball bat that Ace uses isn't electrically charged, but suffused with energy from the Hand of Omega.
 * 3) at seven o'clock Now, this really is not necessary, since the time of day is hardly relevant to what the story - and paragraph - is about.
 * 4) Daleks have been created from human beings before, as shown in 'Revelations of the Daleks, starring Colin Baker as the sixth doctor. This is covered in History of the Daleks.
 * 5) which are shown to house a self destruct mechanism, as shown in 'Dalek'. I'm not sure this means what the editor wanted it to mean. Were the bumps on the Brain used as a self-destruct mechanism the same way as in Dalek?
 * 6) Ever faithful to lovers of the classic series, the remote controlled dalek was also released in the style of Davros's daleks seen in 'Revelations of the daleks'. Slightly POV phrasing, but really the point is about the new Daleks. However, I can see where this one has a stronger claim to relevancy than most, and I will be restoring a rephrased version of it.

I hope this addresses your concerns. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Many thanks for taking the time to discuss the rationale. I appreciate it. I should have been clearer that I was not querying all the edits, just the specific ones noted. No objections to deleting 7 o'clock, for example :). As you have explained, the edits I was querying were to remove duplicated material, so I am certainly happy with that. Thanks again for the explanations. --Nantonos 03:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

Epona
Saw your Epona wikimail. I've responded at length on my talk page. (Quite a bit. Beer makes me chatty!)  After rambling a lot, I laid out my side/case, re: what links are appropriate; wondering if it sounds like a good compromise to you. Smccandlish 04:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I replied and suggested Gallo-Roman religion as the primary link, explaining why. At the time when I started editing Epona there was no Nantonos 10:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

Sulis
Hey Nantonos, how's it going? I'm an admirer of your wiki-work; and I noticed your comment on Sulis and the Suleviae at Talk:Sulis. Now, there's currently an article Sul which covers the same material as Sulis, only with less of it. I would simply merge the two, but I was wondering if you'd be interested in moving Sul to Suleviae and explaining what we know about Sulis and the Suleviae and how they differ. I'm a tad out of my league here, but I seem to remember the Suleviae are attested on the Rhineland(?) and don't appear to differ much from other triplets like the Junones and Matrones. Is that right? Do we have statues of them, or just inscriptions? QuartierLatin1968 19:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the kind words. I will look into the [Sul]] article and if necessary suggest a merger with Sulis. Sulis and the Suleviae are not at all the same deities, they just happen to share a common emphatic component 'su' which means 'good' or 'great' and is also found in Sucellus and [Nantosuelta]]. The Matres Suleviae are believed to originate on the Rhineland, yes; they are also attested in Rome at the castrum of the Equites Singulares Augusti, the dedicants likely being from the Rhineland.

--Nantonos 11:46, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Epidii
There's a link to a cached version of Campell's paper "Were the Scots Irish ?" at Talk:Epidii. If you have trouble with the link, let me know. I have a cleaned-up version I can send you. I see you're in France, so I don't suppose the library would have Lane & Campbell's book Dunadd or Campbell's Saints and sea-kings which give a shorter version. Ian Armit appears to have given a paper in 2004, after Campell, which might be relevant, but that hasn't been published that I can see. According to the Society for American Archaeology site, the abstracts for their annual meetings are only published up to 2003 so far. I checked the prospectus for the 2004 meeting, but it doesn't go into give titles of papers to be presented, never mind any details. Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:31, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the references, appreciated. The Google cache link is broken however. I don't have either of the two books that you mention at home, so will need to wait until next I am back in Scotland. However, the generally accepted chronology goes that the first mention of the Scotti was in 360 by Amianus and the founding of Dal Riata was 500 (see for example Aitchison, Nick (2003) The Picts and the Scots at War. Sutton Publishing. pp.1-13). --Nantonos 23:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Indeed the link is dead, evidently they woke up at last. Send me an email if you want a copy (and if you can't do that from WP, try angus period mclellan atsymbol skynet period be). The Armit and Foster books are good, pretty much up to date, and well worth a look. To say that "if the Epidii had been Goidelic speaking they would have had a Goidelic name" begs the question of whether Ptolemy's information was reliable and who provided it. It was, says Ó Corráin in the Oxford History of Ireland, "a sailors chart, not an ethnographical survey". Tacitus's Boresti in the Agricola don't even appear in Ptolemy's work, and you'll look long and hard to find anyone who'd place much faith in the Manapii and Erpeditani in Ireland being proof of Brythonic languages being current in those areas. Do you have a copy of Kruta's Les Celtes. Histoire et dictionnaire ? If not, maybe the library would have one or you could always have a quick flip through it in a bookshop. If you have a look at his dating in the Irish article, there's a very, very long time available for things to spread from north east Ireland to south west Scotland (and the other way) before the Iron Age, never mind from the early Iron Age to Ptolemy. Kruta doesn't discuss Scotland, how unexpected, but the "Grande Bretagne" article gives the same 3rd millenium-ish date as "Irlande" for the start of "Celticisation". Worth a look. Angus McLellan (Talk) 01:46, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

Rewriting World Wide Web
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Sirona ISBN
It's 11 digits long, ISBNs are 10 (soon to be 13). Rich Farmbrough, 22:30 2 September 2006 (GMT).
 * Aha! Thanks, I have just now checked against the book, and corrected it. --Nantonos 08:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC).

Dashed daleks
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 14:50 4 September 2006 (GMT).
 * 1) Thanks for you note about hyphens, in the example, the "old" has the HTML  numeric encoding of the unicode as ASCII characters, which get interpreted by the browser, the "new" has I believe, the unicode character iteslf.  Experimenting with the width of my browser window I wasn't able to make either break on the hyphens.
 * 2) I think there was an "invalid ISBN" on Dalek, as a dalekite you may care to take a look.

MD
Bro, i have been thinking about doing something against MD, but the problem is that i have a bunch of his friends keeping an eye on me, and any atempt to do anything from my side is fiercly resisted on daily basis. I can not do anything undisputed, and any RFC would be flooded by the people that hate my work here.

I try to focus on my work and not letting things get to me, trying to stay calm is hard enough. I do not have the time, energy or the community goodwill to resist their constant attacks on a formale maner. Just to give you an idea: this template is the work of two admins, TWO ADMINS, and when i reported it to ANI, the admins just played innocent and nothing happened.

When two admins get away with that, i do not feel it being worth the effort doing anything against MD, an RFC will be flooded by "Its just an edit war", then by "Striver is smearcampaigning MD" and "Striver is the bad guy" and will probably backfire on me just as when i RFC'd Jersey Devil for afd'ing 30+article created by me. Even though 80+ of the articles were keept, and the rest were deleted since i did not have time to defend all of them or did not notice it. Of cource he did not notify me when he AFD the 30+ articles. Here is a list of the Islam related ones, see the long Jersey Devil list?

Anyhow, i do not feel to start any proces, i just keep it up and hope that somebody will see my efforts and decide to help. If you want to talk to MD or anything, i hope it will be helpfull.

Thanks for the care, and thanks for the comment on the article. --Striver 09:36, 5 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for getting back to me. This isn't a popularity contest and it should not be seen as 'against' one user or 'for' another. Instead, its that I am troubled first by the request for deletion (apparently one of several such) motivated by political views rather than evaluation of the content, and secondly by widespread blanking following the failure of the RFD.
 * I will indeed talk to MD, and hope this can be resolved amicably. --Nantonos 12:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Horse worship
Hey, I'm the guy you asked about my edit of Horse worship -- I had forgotten to log in. Anyway, it may very well be originally from Pausanias, but I actually just got it from the animal worship article, which looks it got it from Britannica. Just wanted to let you know. --Schizobullet 17:28, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of article you created
Huh? Which article? --Nantonos 20:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

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Divitiacos
I know that you're a careful Celticist (aren't you a force behind the wonderful Epona.net?), so I was hoping you could clarify something for me. Why is it that Divitiacos of the Aedui is identified as a vergobret? I won't clutter up your talk page with my doubts, but I've been bugged by this for some time, and thought you might be someone interested in mulling it over. See D's talk page. Cynwolfe (talk) 18:28, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Interesting, thanks for the pointer. Another confirmation why parallel translations are really necessary. No opinion yet, but mulling. --Nantonos (talk) 17:04, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks. For all his fabled clarity of style, Caesar is often misread. Maybe because translators read him in second-year Latin, think he's easy, and don't play close enough attention, forgetting what a sly dog he really is. A Penguin translation has an outright error in Book 1, calling a Lucius Aemilius (I think that's his name; this is off the top of my head) the "commander of cavalry", which would be praefectus equitum; in fact, according to the Latin he's only a decurion. Again, if I have other thoughts or pieces of evidence pertaining to our druid friend, I'll post them on the appropriate talk page. Cynwolfe (talk) 18:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Question: Horseshoe History
I read of your plans to update the History section of the Horseshoe article in the discussion page, and so wanted to pose this question to you: if one finds a used horseshoe which is at least 50 years old, is there any way to approximate its age? appreciate your time. Chrishibbard7 (talk) 16:05, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Question: Map of Central Europe
Hey, I see that you made the map with the distribution of Sirona inscriptions. Where can I find the map without the points, so that I can use it for other deities? Thank you (hope this was the right place to ask - I don't find another way) Treveros (talk) 10:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

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Belief rebirth!!
Dear Nantonos Aedui,

I'm reaching out to researchers and writers interested in the emerging, or re-emerging, movements inspired by ancient culture in the areas of religion/theology/mythology/culture...I spare-headed an artistic collaboration between a music professor, rock-vocalist and poet to create a modern multi-media experience of the cathardic journey inspired by ancient pagan poetic traditions; A romance to nature seen as a beautiful, divine and omnipotent woman.

It has singularly been my goal to respect tradition while allowing a free and spontaneous interpretation...I believe the utility of a quasi-rebirth of some aspects of the ancient religious tendancies would be achieved in an increase of tolerance, sympathy, and freedom of expression in our modern discoures on religion...so much needed. Until we have a cultural revolution tantamount to the politcal revolutions of the 18th and 19th centuries [aiding the rebirth of a government of, by and for the people] in the area of religion, I will not rest. Until the rebirth of religions which are of, by and for the people, as fluid as art, as deep as mythology and theology and as powerful as culture, I do not believe we will be truly free no matter what economic or political conditions surround us. Democracy without a democratic cultural is as frustrating as it is ineffectual.

If you have a moment could you peruse the poetry project site. http://www.misbeliever.net As you are a worker in these areas, having ebhanced the Wikipedia, the world's greatest encyclopedia, I would be very honored with any remarks or critisms you could offer either me or my collaborators.

thanks much,

sincerely

Pdiffenderfer (talk) 01:49, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

paul m. diffenderfer

düsseldorf germany +49 (0) 178 178 2117 http://www.misbeliever.net pdiffenderfer@yahoo.com

Wikipedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland
I'm just dropping you a quick note about a new Wikipedian in Residence job that's opened up at the National Library of Scotland. There're more details at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland. Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 15:17, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open!
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