Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who

Possible good topics?
This is one of my ideas I'll have the next few up soon. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:30, 17 April 2024 (UTC)


 * I've nomed Capaldi's article Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:59, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * I think this one is a good idea. It's quite manageable to promote each article to good status, given the amount of information that has been published on the various actors who have portrayed the Doctor. Perhaps us members of this WikiProject can focus on one Doctor at a time. Given that @OlifanofmrTennant has promoted Peter Capaldi, perhaps we can begin work on that article in earnest...? Lotsw73 (talk) 02:45, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Actually it hasn’t yet been promoted. Just nominated but yes anyone interested? I think after Capaldi the next easiest to promote would be Tennant or possibly T. Baker. The hardest would be McCoy. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 02:49, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Are those ratings fair? I don't think the McCoy article is start class for instance, I mean it's a long way off GA but... I think these things get reviewed and then never revisited. Rankersbo (talk) 12:22, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * The first one I started working on was McCoy and I was stuggling to find sources for him. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 14:11, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
 * After looking over the articles, I would suggest that Tennant and Baker are almost certainly the closest to GA. I would be willing to work on both that article and the others with anyone who is willing to help out. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:12, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @OlifanofmrTennant: I will have a look at improving/adding some references in those articles. Lotsw73 (talk) 07:32, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Gonna leave these here Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Gonna leave these here Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Gonna leave these here Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:22, 25 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Nightmare in Silver has been promoted, leaving just The Name of the Doctor. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @OlifanofmrTennant Just out of curiousity, why is User:OlifanofmrTennant/sandbox/Better Call Saul GT titled Better Call Saul if it's got the 60th specials? -- Alex_ 21 TALK 03:12, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * , I origanally used it for a Better Call Saul GT and I thought it would be easier to just repurpose it instead of creating a page. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:48, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Odd. No worries. -- Alex_ 21 TALK 03:50, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Doctor Who series 14 § Season 1 vs Series 14: Arbitrary break
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Doctor Who series 14 § Season 1 vs Series 14: Arbitrary break. &#x0020;This discussion relates to the location of season/series articles, based on the latest being retitled to a "Season 1" format, based on the current and common naming of the season. A list of moves has been proposed, based on a series of debated questions. -- Alex_ 21 TALK 11:00, 30 April 2024 (UTC)


 * That's a rather obscure notice, and it misses the lead. Which is adding the primary broadcast years for each season to the title of the article! Nfitz (talk) 23:09, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your opinion, as always. -- Alex_ 21 TALK 07:50, 2 May 2024 (UTC)

Latest "Doctor stories" templates
Thoughts on the necessity or existance of Fourteenth Doctor stories and Fifteenth Doctor stories? -- Alex_ 21 TALK 07:40, 21 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Fourteenth is a little iffy since we've reached the extent of his appearances and they are limited. My only argument for potentially keeping it would be the fact that it exists for the other doctors and there is a case for consistency (I am fully aware of OTHERCONTENT, just bringing the point up). While it may be slightly TOOSOON for fifteen, I don't necessarily see the point of going through a TFD only because I think we will get to a point where it is necessary as Gatwa is already filming series 15. The Doctor Who  (talk) 08:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I would keep them both, because the other Doctors have their own templates also. It also makes it easier to navigate each of these Doctors's episodes. Lotsw73 (talk) 08:06, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I think maybe the fourteenth doctors template could easily be replaced by the standered episode template. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 15:42, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Fifteenth I'd say is a necessity since he's already got at least two more seasons confirmed. Fourteenth is iffy, but per above I definitely feel like it would navigationally be useful due to the other numbered Doctors having one. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree that Fifteenth Doctor stories is a bit too early, but its creation was inevitable so it might not even worth reverting again. Fourteenth Doctor stories is a bit excessive, though; it's practically identical to, and both are used on mostly the same articles anyway. Due to the obvious similarities between their eras, might it be worth merging with Tenth Doctor stories instead? It's already linked there, so it seems logical to simply add it to the bottom. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 22:18, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * That could lead to confusion between the two incarnations Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:21, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I don't think it would any more confusing than the show already presents it. Here's a quick example of what it could look like (though I'm sure there are even better ways to do it). Just an idea. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 22:36, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't have any objection to merging the two but I think I'd like to suggest this as a viable alternative too. I assume the episodes would be the primary target for most people over something like The Forever Trap or The Eyeless. It would also properly fall under the "television" subheader. The Doctor Who  (talk) 02:25, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
 * I have decided to send 14's to TFD to get more imput on it. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:10, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Proposal at Talk:List_of_Doctor_Who_universe_creatures_and_aliens#Cleanup_Proposal
I have placed a proposal at Talk:List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens regarding the list and methods for a potential cleanup/improvement. I'd appreciate feedback/thoughts on this. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:56, 13 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Additionally, I am planning a rewrite of List of Doctor Who supporting characters (Should this be renamed?) and am preparing the rewrite in my userspace subpage. I've mocked up a basic overview of what the article will look like, as well as what entries I plan on including in the list (Mainly attempting to keep it just to recurring characters to avoid clutter like the current list.) I still need to add spin-off characters and cite sources where applicable, but this should be a basic idea of what's planned. Asking for thoughts on this and if anything should be changed, since the list definitely needs a rewrite and I want to make sure the new list will be of a high quality. Additionally, are there any notable recurring characters I missed from the list that should be added? I believe I have mostly everyone but I feel I'm probably forgetting a few big ones. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:22, 15 June 2024 (UTC)

Inconsistent italization
So why is Spyfall (Doctor Who) not italicized while The Five Doctors is? Five Doctors is one long part while Spyfall is two. Shouldn't TFD use quotation marks like the other specials? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:22, 21 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I assumed modern era episodes aren't italicized while classic era episodes are. I don't know what the proper rationale is for that, but it's just what I've seen when it comes to how the episodes are split. I'm admittedly unsure as to whether or not specials have a unique distinction, but in the case of Spyfall, I believe it's just using the standard modern era format. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:30, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The episode Mission to the Unknown isn't italized and is a classic episode Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:37, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * See WP:WHO/MOS. Basically: is it a single episode or a serial? -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:10, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Single episode. It’s one part Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:26, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * All serials are multi-part episodes, but not all multi-part episodes are serials. Spyfall is thus not a serial, but yes, The Five Doctors should be in quotes. -- Alex_ 21 TALK 22:48, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
 * If there's not any disagreement to update the formatting to match other singular-episode releases, this is the list of articles that will need updating (easily do-able through AWB). -- Alex_ 21 TALK 07:41, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * For clarity, what was the rationale for leaving The Five Doctors as is when The End of Time (Doctor Who) was changed to quotation marks? I can't find that discussion, though recall it taking place. U-Mos (talk) 08:26, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that was me, at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Doctor Who/Archive 32. I brought it up then forgot to ever do anything about it. -- Alex_ 21 TALK 10:39, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Okay, great. No objection to changing it. U-Mos (talk) 10:44, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * ✅ -- Alex_ 21 TALK 07:54, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

"Continuity" sections in Episode Articles
I've noticed these sections a lot in episode articles, and I feel mixed on them. On the one hand, these references make sense to cover if they're mentioned in reliable sources, but on the other, it feels very CRUFTy to me to just have it be stuffed in its own section where it feels like it only exists for random fans to be like "Oh hey that was an easter egg!" Admittedly, I feel like the information is better off covered in a separate section, or not at all given most references typically aren't that important to the wider scope of the episode overall. Thoughts? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:45, 23 June 2024 (UTC)


 * These sections need to follow WP:TRIVIA. For example, in the latest episode Empire of Death, the use of video from Pyramid of Mars (as well as the implications from that serial) looks like it can be easily confirmed, but to document every nod to past Doctors in the Memory TARDIS is likely going to be difficult using RSes. Without sources these sections should be trimmed or removed. M asem (t) 23:57, 23 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Oops - I say that, because earlier tonight before seeing this talk page, I boldly removed the Continuity section from the latest episode. I initially left it to see what would happen after a first editor created it, but when a second editor added more unsourced cruft I felt it needed to be nipped in the bud before it became a dumping ground for trivia. I feel there are already enough references to Pyramid of Mars, particularly the Tales of the TARDIS special, that I felt the continuity mention of 'there were some clips in the episode' added nothing. And as I noted in my edit summary, I wouldn't be against documenting what appears in the remembered TARDIS, but these details would be better placed in the Production section with appropriate sourcing. JustAnotherCompanion (talk) 01:12, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I briefly mentioned this in an edit summary on Empire of Death yesterday. Personally, I've felt like continuity sections are FANCRUFT a solid 90% of the time, even with an RS. If the information is that important it can either be written into the plot summary or into the production section from an out of universe perspective. Instead of "Archival footage from Pyramids of Mars was featured from The Doctor’s memory." (a quote from the section that was removed on Empire of Death), we could just as easily slide "The Doctor and Ruby viewed footage from his past battle with Sutekh in Pyramids of Mars into the overall plot section. It has a better flow and doesn't require a source as it's sourced to the episode itself. We all saw it. Similarly the portion reading "The Seventh Doctor’s jacket is shown in the memory TARDIS as remembered by Mel." was already worked into the filming section and reads "The set was constructed to reference past iterations of the TARDIS interior, with props from former companions and past incarnations of the Doctor being used in order to decorate the space." That's sourced and better falls within the suggestions given at WP:UNIVERSE. Even if it was sourced, it would be unnecessary to list all the references anyways as it would approach WP:INDISCRIMINATE. The Doctor Who  (talk) 03:40, 24 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Basically my thoughts. I feel continuity sections should likely be removed or redistributed in the articles they are in. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:21, 25 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It was the sixth Docotrs jacket Mel held. But besides that i don’t know how important such a detail would be. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:49, 25 June 2024 (UTC)

Good Article Nominations
I just want to say, great job WikiProject Doctor Who for managing to get all of the most recent series up to Good Article nomination standards so soon after broadcast! Given how much of a dry patch a lot of past episodes went through for a while, it's good to see so much collaboration going on in this WikiProject. Great job, and thank you for all of your hard work.

I do want to note, however, that we have a lot of nominations up right now. I myself plan to take on the nominations for The Devil's Chord and The Daleks' Master Plan, but even then we still have eight nominations up, plus one open candidate for a Featured List. Thus, if anyone's free to take on reviews of these other episodes, it would greatly benefit both the nominators and the WikiProject as a whole if you would. Just make sure not to take on ones where you have already significantly contributed, per a conflict of interest. Obviously there's no rush if you lack time or don't wish to do them just yet, but we should keep it in mind in order to avoid building up too much of a backlog. Many thanks in advance. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:16, 30 June 2024 (UTC)


 * We have been reaching very high levels of productivity. I myself was contemplating taking up TDMP before you posted this. We're very close to several possible Good topics several being one or two articles away. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 23:21, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
 * The amount of productivity we've been reaching is off the charts and is definitely something to be proud of.
 * Just to keep everyone updated on things on my personal to do list which relate to this WikiProject:
 * Space Babies is nearly ready for GAN, I just need to see if there's anything else to add to the production section and I want to expand the critical response section a bit.
 * I expanded the viewing figure section on the Series 14 article. While I would possibly like to be a co-nominator on that page, I don't feel like I've contributed to it enough to nominate it single-handedly yet. If anyone wants to be the primary nominator I'll gladly help wherever I can. Otherwise, I'll try to perform a general clean up and copy edit on other sections of that article, at which point I'll nominate it myself if no one else jumps in.
 * Following that, everything just needs to be reviewed, at which point S14 will be ready to nominate for a good topic.
 * Once my current one wraps up, I intend on sending List of Doctor Who Christmas and New Year's specials to FLC. It's a really niche type of list, and bar a few episode summaries that I need to reduce, I've expanded it quite a bit.
 * In longer term plans, I've been (very) slowly working on bringing List of Doctor Who cast members up to FLC status. I've expanded the prose for NuWho main cast members and have been hunting down sources for all the recurring appearances, which lacked significantly beforehand.
 * If anyone else has any other plans and needs help, let me know and I'll do my best to assist where I can.  The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:15, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I too have got some plans, mostly in terms of rewriting some of our fictional elements-related lists. My plans are:
 * -Rewrite List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens. This is my active plan and I'm slowly chipping away at it. I'm mainly dreading having to summarize expanded media appearances given how few that's discussed outside of non-primary sources and due to how many exist for some of the more niche monsters, but all should go smoothly beside that. By the time I'm done I may try going for FL but it'd be down to how much Reception I can squeeze out of it.
 * -I plan on rewriting List of Doctor Who villains and List of Doctor Who supporting characters because frankly these are two of the worst lists on this entire site. The Villains list I'm admittedly iffy on notability wise, so I'll likely hit up the characters list just in case I have to emergency merge content.
 * -I plan on hitting up The Name of the Doctor alongside @OlifanofmrTennant in the coming days to help her get S7 to GA. As a solo project, I also plan on hitting up Cyberman as well because I feel there's a very good article we can make out of it that just isn't there right now. I additionally, per above, plan to hit up those two GA nominations in the coming days.
 * This is more long-term goals (These lists will take eons) but I hope it will help make the project overall higher quality for those unfamiliar with the series. I additionally want to try tackling more DW monsters with individual articles (Such as Ood, Ice Warrior, Weeping Angel, Silurian, and Sontaran) but those will come as I continue to work on the list and figure out how much time I have to work on stuff like that.
 * Side note, but out of all of our monsters, I feel that the Judoon have the weakest claim to notability as of right now, and though I have concerns with other articles (Like Slitheen and Voord) I'll see how those go as I do research. Based off my past searches, I believe the Judoon don't really have much in the way of developmental information or Reception/Analysis to demonstrate real world impact. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, though, so if anyone can find anything on the Judoon, I'd greatly appreciate it. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 04:28, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Of course I can't guarantee anything, but I'll try and have a look around for Judoon sources sometime this week. The Doctor Who  (talk) 05:46, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Every few days i try to knock out some of those citation tags on the main article. Also I’m trring to work to get Dalek back up to status then hopefulling working on getting Capaldi back to GAN. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 07:18, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As an active member of WikiProject Doctor Who and WikiProject Television, where I've been for over ten years, I'm not overly active within GA/FL nominations (bar the initial series article nom's), but I've definitely noticed the activeness, eagerness and productivity of everyone here, and I just wanted to say what an amazing job everyone is doing. So while I may not participate in article nominations/discussions or such, just know you've got two thumbs up over here! --  Alex_ 21 TALK 05:12, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Citing Audio Productions and Comics
Per my work on List of Doctor Who universe creatures and aliens I'm beginning to try and cover information related to these monsters in spin-off media. However, since it's so scarcely covered in secondary media, a lot of sources will require primary sources, but I am uncertain what our citation format is for comics (Such as those published Doctor Who Magazine or by Titan Comics) and audio dramas (Most prominently Big Finish Productions). What is our format for this? I'd assume we'd need authors, publishers, ISBNs, etc, but I am not sure what our format is and would greatly appreciate some help here. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:32, 1 July 2024 (UTC)


 * I don’t think we use comic citations often. But I would suggest looking at Captain America which is a GA or Iron Man which is sitting at FAC Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd recommend Cite comic for comics, and probably Cite AV media for audio productions. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 22:29, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Rhain I've tried using Cite AV Media, but there's no applicable spot for Audio Productions. Would CD work, or should I try a different template? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Additionally, two ISBNs exist for dramas- one for physical, one for digital. Which should be used? Using both causes the cite to display as invalid due to the multiple ISBNs. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:18, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For Cite AV media, Audio drama (or similar) would probably be suitable. The ISBN is up to you; I typically opt for whichever version I specifically used, as that makes verification easier. – Rhain  ☔ (he/him) 02:36, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'll use the digital version, since I'm linking to the website for certain citations. Thank you for the clarification. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 03:00, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
 * if it helps I recently bought a Doctor Who character guide. It covers several creates and all eleven doctors... I would be more than willing to provide some of the contents of the book. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 01:06, 2 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What monsters does it include? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 04:23, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * All of the ones that have an article on - Voord Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 04:24, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * What kind of information does the book have? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 05:53, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * So it’s arrived and it’s leased than I hoped. Generic overviews of the characters so it’s probably not as helpful as I would have hoped. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 05:57, 3 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah darn. A shame, but thank you for the offer either way. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 06:39, 3 July 2024 (UTC)

Suggestions for the Main Page
I've been taking a look at the main page recently and feel there's a few things that could be improved on. I'm more than willing to help with the suggestions, but I'd like to bring it up in discussion before anything is done.


 * 1) Could we split the list of participants into those who are active and inactive? While sometimes it's hard to tell, there are many members on the list who haven't been active on the list for years (Some even more than a decade) and if people need to ping participants, it would be better for them to not have to sift through a list of people who have been inactive for eons.
 * 2) The Task Forces listing seems strange given it's unlikely we're going to branch out into more task forces (Especially when Torchwood has been inactive for over a decade at this point). Should we still continue to list it as a possibility? I think it's unlikely it'll ever branch out.
 * 3) The freenode channel no longer works and should probably be removed unless a new one is made, especially since most discussion takes place on-site these days.
 * 4) The sample articles for books and audio plays (Lungbarrow and Jubilee (audio drama)) are in very bad shape despite being the sample articles. Additionally, do we really need a "sample device" article? The only device other than the Sonic we have an article for is the TARDIS, and there's very few other devices that would necessitate the need for a template.
 * 5) Should we include an updates infobox? (Similar to those used at VGCHAR, for example) I feel it would be beneficial for keeping track of talk page discussion, especially given how active both this project and the fandom have been recently.
 * 6) Could we include Radio Times' Doctor Who sections in the reference section? They're genuinely very helpful for giving an overview of information, gaining reviews, and sourcing cast members, among other things.
 * 7) The Deletion Discussion archive has not been updated in some time. I feel at this stage it should either be abandoned, or have some effort put into locating all of the deletion discussions and adding them to the list.

These are just general things I've noticed of course, and aren't pressing issues, but I thought I'd bring them to attention to see what should be done about certain issues/if certain suggestions should be accepted and brought forward. Let me know your thoughts. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:40, 7 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Can I add that there's a DW MoS - WP:WHO/MOS - that appears to be in dire need of an update? I did comment on the talk page for that previously, though (perhaps understandably) it didn't garner any response.
 * Regarding your points, 1, 3 and 7 seem sensible and straightforward suggestions. 2 the seemingly unofficial taskforce getting the new series articles up to GA standard could be added here. 5 there's an incredibly well hidden link in the 'Welcome' box that lists updates, but it appears to be working off the 'full list of pages' linked earlier in the sentence that is (a) incomplete, not containing any of the new series articles, and (b) includes articles that have been deleted since the list was compiled. JustAnotherCompanion (talk) 20:51, 7 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I disagree with the new series task force idea. Though I do pose the idea of marking Torchwood historical. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 16:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, my intention with this suggestion was more to recognise the work you and @TheDoctorWho and others have being doing on these articles rather than suggest more work needs to be done, but as you think it's a bad idea I'm happy to go back and strike the suggestion. JustAnotherCompanion (talk) 16:33, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Definitely feel Torchwood should be made historical given how inactive it's been for so long. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 19:46, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I have no issue with marking the TW Taskforce as inactive, potentially merging any relevant content/participants here. Trimming the active participants here also seems worthwhile. No strong opinion from me on the rest.
 * There also used to be a newsletter for the WikiProject (March 2008, April 2008). I'd be willing to collaborate with someone on it, if anyone wanted to try and start it back up. It doesn't have to be monthly, it could be quarterly, biannually, etc. I think it would be a good way to inform people of updates who don't specifically watch this page, and potentially foster new involvement in the project. The Doctor Who  (talk) 20:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'd honestly be down to help with the Newsletter. Seems a good way of updating people on developments with the project and with the show. I feel it could potentially be embellished a little from the initial concept, but I'm admittedly not too familiar with how Wikipedia handles individual newsletters like this these days. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 20:58, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * There's a list of active newsletters at Newsletters if you wanted examples on how other WikiProjects handle them. The Doctor Who  (talk) 21:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That sounds like something worthwhile, I've been considering proposing something similar, unaware of the existence of the defunct letter Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:59, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I think a newer updated design for it would also be useful. We can definitely start getting something together!  The Doctor Who  (talk) 21:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We definitely need to trim the active participants list before we get to the point of sending a newsletter out. There was a newsletter recipient list, but given that it hasn't been active since '08 it's out of date. For the first new newsletter we can use the updated participants list, and then give editors the opportunity to opt out of future editions after this. The Doctor Who  (talk) 21:20, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * How would we go about trimming the list. By most recent edit presumably? If so is there a applicable bot for it? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:34, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * We should probably trim those who haven't been active in years, for a start, but for active editors who happen to be listed who don't participate anymore, I am uncertain how we'd discern it. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For context, by trim I mean shift to a separate "inactive participants" list Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 21:50, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * If its checking for those who stopped it would presumably be have to be done manually. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 22:03, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Most likely, yes. Obviously some participants are obvious since they're active frequently in WP:DOCTORWHO projects, but it'll take manual sorting for those that aren't obvious. Alternatively, we could keep the iffy cases in there and just leave it and figure it out after the Newsletter is sent out. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Fortunately, each entry has a contribs link. I suggest that we start by checking those, and anybody with nothing at all in the last year can be moved to the new "inactive participants" list. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 22:44, 8 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I just trimmed all usernames starting A-K, purely anyone who has been inactive for 12 months or longer. I haven't checked yet for editors who are actually still active within the project. Question though, is it worth keeping a list of editors who are inactive? I can't think of any particular reason why it would be useful for us. Unless someone else has one, I'll just mark it as historical as well. We can keep trimming the main list by just removing those who are inactive altogether rather than moving them to an a separate list. The Doctor Who  (talk) 06:37, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * For those unaware, the lists are at WikiProject Doctor Who/Participants/Active participants and WikiProject Doctor Who/Participants/Inactive participants. The latter was created way back in April-May 2008, but has seen little maintenance since. Other WikiProjects also have inactive participants lists, for example Football, London Transport, Military history and Trains. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 08:00, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS possibly applies here to a degree. That other WikiProjects do something is no reason for this one to do the same. I'll note also that in at least one case, their inactive list is bot maintained so doesn't take up a person's time, while we're updating our lists manually. In theory it might be nice to keep a list of historical contributors, but in practice I'm not sure how much it would mean here. Not least because presence on the list does not mean any contribution has necessarily been made (who among us hasn't signed up to at least one thing in life without following through?). At least we're only removing inactive users here and not, as has been the case in the past elsewhere, entire projects and project histories. JustAnotherCompanion (talk) 08:08, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Just a quick update. I have finished trimming inactive editors from the active list. I went ahead and added and updated the inactive participants for now while we still determine if it's useful. I boldly marked the sympathizer list as historical and merged it with the active/inactive participants. I also marked the former newsletter mailing list as historical and created a new one. I went ahead and added anyone remaining in the active list to the new mailing list. We'll include an option in the new newsletter for people to opt out if they wish. The Doctor Who (talk) 05:04, 10 July 2024 (UTC)


 * So now all thats left is writing the thing. I think that it should probably cover the first half of the year given thats when the recent productivity began. Then continue quarterly Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:52, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I created a very base design using this newsletter as a base. I'm not too attached to the design, so if anyone else has the time or skill to design something better, please be my guest. The old design just seemed too outdated in my opinion and my Wiki design skills aren't the best. The GOCE seemed to have the best in terms of simplicity, I figured we didn't want to overwhelm people. It's located at WikiProject Doctor Who/Newsletter/2024/July if anyone else wants to start adding to it. The Doctor Who  (talk) 05:38, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Oh, I was also considering if we wanted a new name for it. Space-Time Telegraph is good, but just considering we're revamping everything else, we could change that as well. The Gallifreyan crossed my mind as an option. I'm open to other suggestions too. We can also keep the current name if its the best option. The Doctor Who  (talk) 06:05, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I personally like the Space-Time telegraph, I would say maybe through in a line in the first issue requesting alternative name sugestions? Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 20:43, 11 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I agree. I feel Space-Time Telegraph is more than fine but I feel leaving it open is valid as well.
 * What should we tackle in terms of subject matter? I assume the recent GANs and productivity for a start, as well as the coverage on series 14. Should anything else be covered? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 02:35, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm fine with leaving it at Space-Time Telegraph then, just wanted to pitch it. I'd definitely agree in saying that series 14 and the work towards GA's/GT's on both Classic and New Who is something to write about. We could potentially mention the series 14/season 1 RM if that's still ongoing when we send it out. Also the seven points that started this discussion, see if anyone who isn't watching this page wishes to help update the information. The Doctor Who  (talk) 03:43, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I feel both are good. I do believe 1 has been addressed already, though. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 23:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do either of you have any specific portions that you want to write of the topics we've discussed (or anything else even)? I can take anything that's left, I just didn't want to take anything anyone else planned on writing given I already wrote the intro. The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:10, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * I'm down to write any of the sections. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 17:44, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
 * why don't you write over the proposals that started this discussion since you're the one who originally proposed them? If is interested in writing, perhaps she could write over the GA's since she sparked most of the productivity there?  The Doctor Who  (talk) 03:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Works for me. Are we still covering the move discussion? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 03:55, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * As long as it's still active when we're ready to send the newsletter. The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:07, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Yeah alright. I've been pretty busy with some scary stuff recently but I should be able to write it. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 09:40, 14 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @TheDoctorWho I've written a mockup for the section about the proposals. (Which will ironically be very funny given we're linking people to the discussion we discussed the newsletter in lmao). Let me know if you feel it should be altered, since I was admittedly uncertain how to frame these proposals in something like this. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 22:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Thanks to the two of you for writing your sections! I was hoping to wait a day or two here to see if the series 14 RM gets relisted or closed. I'd really hate to mention it and have it closed two minutes after I send the newsletter. Once that's done I'll send it out promptly. (If there's no official relist/closure by Saturday night, I'll go ahead and add/send it at that time.) The Doctor Who  (talk) 07:37, 19 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Went ahead and sent it tonight. Thanks for helping out guys! If we're hoping to send quarterly, this is probably close enough to count as the June edition and we could also get issues out in September and December? The Doctor Who  (talk) 04:34, 20 July 2024 (UTC)
 * That could work. I'm down. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:49, 20 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic candidates § Article inclusion on future Good Topic
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Featured and good topic candidates § Article inclusion on future Good Topic. &#x0020;Regarding whether or not Doctor Who mini-episodes should be included in Good/Featured topics for the series in which they were produced. The Doctor Who (talk) 20:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)