User talk:Neurolysis/Archives/2008/November

My apologies
Sorry if i made a mistake, like i said on the IPs talk page, my first thoughts were that he was blanking (Vandalism). I've crossed out the warning appropriately. Like i said before, i'm sorry if i caused an inconvienience. DJ MeXsTa (talk) 17:13, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original comment, replied (the latter replying to his intention to take a WikiBreak). &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Apology
My apologies for the recent vandalism on Vere Bird by this account/IP, I assure you that such an event will strive to be avoided in the future. Maddoward (talk) 17:25, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Your assumption would be correct. Maddoward (talk) 17:28, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:30, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It is I (the responder, not the vandal) who is both the owner and he who intends to use this account. Maddoward (talk) 17:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:35, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * (unindent) Measures have been taken to avoid vandalism from this account occurring again. Maddoward (talk) 17:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:41, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) Maddoward (talk) 17:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

3RR
Huh? Where did I get close to breaking 3RR? I've only undid one edit, and the guy I undid apologized to me for calling my edit vandalism. This is a wacky place. 65.124.139.66 (talk) 17:37, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dude. I am an admin.  I'm on a public computer in a library is all, and don't want to log in.  I understand the rules very well, and if another admin decided that I was "close to 3RR" and blocked me, he/she would end up at WP:AN.  I haven't even edited any article more than once, except Desmon Farmer, in which the guy that "warned me for vandalism" retracted his warning after he actually read what I freeking edited.  Sheesh.  No wonder new users/IP editors complain about this place.  65.124.139.66 (talk) 17:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:45, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Admins can't think this is a wacky place? Oy vey.  I'm logging in now, I'll message here again in a second.  65.124.139.66 (talk) 17:46, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Me again. This is a wacky place.  Maybe you should add this little thread to your mistakes page?   Keeper  &#448;  76  17:47, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * And logged out again. Don't be so assumptive in your actions, don't assume that an IP is a vandal, or doesn't understand this place.  Don't be hostile, I'm trying to improve this place quietly and anonymously.  Cheers, 65.124.139.66 (talk) 17:50, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Erroneous warning
Regarding my warning. Consider the changes made, and the possibility of a collision in vandalism thwarting. . Regards Regibox (talk) 02:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post, and replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 02:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * You assume correct Sir. Regibox (talk) 02:21, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 02:23, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Help
Hey neuro, mind looking at this and giving me your opinion on the matter, don't want to start an edit war and break 3RR so I'm waiting for your advice. -¤Belinrahs talk/contribs¤
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 04:02, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

reply
hmm. i've never seen that before. Mine is very similar, but it's shorter. and some people are lazy, and like reading short sentences :) . I'll add that one to the see also link on mine. - -' The Spook (TALK) (Share the Love with Barnstars) 18:46, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. &mdash; neuro(talk) 17:54, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Your userpage
Don't feel like you have to keep your userpage the way it is - I actually liked it the way it was before. :-) Keeper  &#448;  76  15:51, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 14:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. &mdash; neuro(talk) 14:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
For assisting me in fixing that template. It was late at night, and I tried to take a look at it however my brain wouldn't cooperate. So thanks,  Digital Ninja WTF 13:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Mushots
You tagged one saying it didn't meet NFCC#12 - I can't seem to find NFCC No 12 on the link given ? Sfan00 IMG (talk) 15:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Continued on IRC, seems Twinkle messed up. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Hi neuro, thanks for participating in my successful Rfa! Hope to work with you in the future!--Aervanath lives in <b style="color:green;">the Orphanage</b> 17:23, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Lord viswanatha.jpg
The tage was posted by you for this image - pui. I have uploaded a photo of the temple tower of the temple in the discussion page of the article.Let me if this can be uploaded in the article and is ok. Kbala1055 (talk) 07:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

My talk page
Hey, thanks for chasing that'n up for me :). I don't think it really counts as a personal attack (although he is wrong) but it was rather snide and immature. Ironholds (talk) 18:31, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hehe, good point. I just love that while implying he was more of an expert at English than me he spelt his heading wrong :P. Ironholds (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Please do not tresspass on my page
Thank you for your Wikipedia service but please do not tresspass on my page. DaffyDuckDied (talk) 18:37, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Don't Bite The New Comers
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we must insist that you assume good faith while interacting with other editors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaffyDuckDied (talk • contribs) 18:50, 16 November 2008
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It turns out he warned both myself and Ironholds, here is both his and my response to the accusations. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 18:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Please help me with an RfA page
please —Preceding unsigned comment added by Helpfulweasal (talk • contribs) 23:04, 16 November 2008
 * Original post, reply and follow-ups. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 00:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for informing me that a 'crat threw out my vote. I never would have noticed. Thanks again, and see you around the wiki! America69 (talk) 23:57, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 00:10, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: G8 of User talk:Roux
Whoops, my mistake. Thank you for letting me know. –Juliancolton <sup style="color:#666660;">Tropical <sup style="color:#666660;">Cyclone  00:07, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 00:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

ACC Tool
I hereby confirm that I requested access to the ACC tool. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 00:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC) <font face="Verdana"> Stwalkerster [  talk  ]  16:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Lord Viswanatha jpg file
Let me know how to upload a higher resolution image please Kbala1055 (talk) 02:54, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post and replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 12:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

RE:NPA
Thanks. :3 Does this happen often while using Huggle? Lazylaces (Talk to me 23:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post, and replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 12:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

You.
You, you're difficult, with your "rule of law" and "copyright ownership."

I'll scare something up, or have someone competent do it.

That said, in the same way that boilerplate tags are no per se sufficient to establish fair use, given user turnover we could have higher-quality content if users tagging images gave some thought to establishing rationale themselves.

I don't mean to be snarky. It's a serious suggestion.

Thanks for the heads-up. Cheers!

— Adrian~enwiki (talk) 09:09, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original posts and replies. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 12:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks again for the heads-up. However, last I checked, the .sig transclusion admonition was a strong suggestion rather than an actual prohibition - something like "should not" vs. "may not." I asked a dev about it way back when, to get verification that it doesn't actually cause a significant drain on Wikipedia server resources. If you can produce someone who can tell me for sure "yes, this is a real problem" I'll fix it.


 * However, at the time, the concern was that pages would be re-rendered every time I changed my .sig (since, as it was explained to me, it's rendered once, not on every load.) I haven't changed it since I switched over. So the concern became "*grumble* I wrote code to stop you from being able to do that!" *grumble* with a final disposition of "whatev', go forth and never change your .sig."


 * As I've said before, if I update it, it will be a new transclusion, resulting in no re-rendering. The other concern is that if my acc't is compromised, every page I've ever commented on can be defaced. Since I can barely remember my own password, the intruder would have to have an unusual level of insight into the workings of Wiki*.


 * I genuinely don't mean to be difficult. This issue comes up about twice a year, I give this response, it goes away, and the cycle is complete. Believe me, I don't shoot the messengers, as they inevitably have good intentions (well, maybe one guy just wanted to be a jerk, but it wasn't you.)


 * — Adrian~enwiki (talk) 22:55, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Full Protection Needed...on IIPM page
Dear Administrators,

Please Full protect IIPM page as sock puppets striking again and again and washing of the content unwantedly....

Regards Rawat2008 (talk) 12:11, 19 November 2008 (UTC)RAWAT2008
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 12:22, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Liebman socks
It follows his typical M.O. He can't be IP-blocked because he operates from the N.Y. Public Library system. I was just trying save Wknight94 the trouble of blocking them himself. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 20:37, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Account creator flag


You've now got the flag. No more clicking that "Defer" button, or hitting the limit. :) <font face="Verdana"> Stwalkerster [  talk  ]  23:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post and reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Lord Viswanatha.jpg
I got the scanning done using a low end scanner. For now I am going to refer this image in the article. Hope this is not a problem. It is very difficult to get a high resolution scan in this part of India (a village, you see). Kbala1055 (talk) 09:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

WikiCup
Nauru. Cute. // roux <span style="border:1px solid #36454F;-moz-border-radius-topright:10px;-moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px;padding:0px 7px;font-size:30%;">  23:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism revert
I was patrolling Recent Changes and I saw an edit you reverted here. I think you accidentally reverted a good revision back to a bad one. I fixed it for you so no big deal. I just wanted to let you know :-)  ~Beano~  (talk) (contribs)  23:33, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem I got your back :-). My firefox has been going really nuts lately on my gaming machine. It crashed on me and somehow reverted someones userpage... that was a weird issue to deal with and fix LOL.  ~Beano~  (talk) (contribs)  23:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Karma
whatwas wrong with my edit to jade goody's page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.88.76 (talk) 23:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Maybe...
...it falls under the definition of a mistake? ;) We all make 'em. Seegoon (talk) 00:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Warning, notice and reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually
Actually, I've been warned before. I just removed that specific warning from my talk page. Check the history page. --UNSC Trooper (talk) 17:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Warning. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:16, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Woodhead Publishing Limited
I added some references to Woodhead Publishing Limited and removed the copyvio text. -- Eastmain (talk • contribs • count ) 22:31, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Gorean
I removed a dead link, an irrelevant link and then added a very relevant source link to the Gorean article. I got a message from you that you undid it because it a link was not appropriate. I checked the link and the guidelines for external links and cannot find why it does not fit. I also do not understand why the deadlink (website no longer exists) and the irrelevant link (no mention of Second Life in the article) were put back on. Any assistance you can give would be appreciated. OrionTheWolf (talk) 05:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ... Thanks for the reply. You never mentioned why the Secondlife link was put back, as there is no mention of Second Life in the article. Also, those that write about Gorean Philosophy do not have their own websites and often use free websites. Luther is known within the Gorean community as one of the top three experts. Do you have any further suggestions?OrionTheWolf (talk) 06:05, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Moonshine, Illinois
Next time, you may want to wait a bit longer before NAC-closing an article as a keep WP:NAC recommends you wait until a day has passed in the AFD and that at least six valid keep !votes (with no other !vote) are present. Also, it wouldn't be a speedy keep per se, as the nomination was not vexatious or in bad faith (see WP:SK), but it was certainly going to be a snowball keep. Thank you, MuZemike  ( talk ) 17:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 17:47, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:RFPP
My bad, I didn't know it was protected already. I was looking at Main page's source and these were the only two templates which had the "edit" button instead of "view source". --Unpopular Opinion (talk · contribs) 18:35, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post and reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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Absolute Power (album) -> Typo Fix of Villians/Villains
You recently went through and fixed an assumed typo on the Absolute Power (album) article. You changed "57th Street Rogue Dog Villians" to "57th Rogue Dog Villains." While I can understand the need to go through and fix things that appear to be typos in an effort to improve the overall quality of Wikipedia, this however isn't a case of a typo. That is the name of a rap group, and "Villians" is how they spell their name, as this is how it appears both in the credits for this album but also on their own albums. Back around June of 2007, there was a bot that ran through both the Misery Loves Kompany & Celcius (album) articles which are albums by the same artist as the one you changed which feature the same groups name. I just thought I would inform you of the intentional misspelling of "Villians" in the "57th Street Rogue Dog Villians" name for future reference. - Mizery Made (talk) 19:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC) Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
<font color=#f7458c><font color=#f7458c>The Barnstar | <font color=#f7458c>My RFA  | Design by <font color=#f7458c>L'Aquatique

Re:Cat gap
Glad it was appreciated :) Grutness...<small style="color:#008822;">wha?  22:07, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

That's fine.
It seemed resolved at the time so I tagged it. If it isn't, it isn't. Half  Shadow  02:14, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Sorting Javascript
Hi, I do I plop that javascript that sorts tables into another wiki? I'm sure it's easy, but please excuse my ignorance, I know nothing about javascript. Justaquestion (talk) 18:46, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post, and reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Mediawiki, same as this one.Justaquestion (talk) 21:03, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I did not respond again because of this. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Check history before rolling back
Neurolysis, there's a bit of a to-do over at AN/I about your handling of a new editor at. (Discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.)

I'm troubled by the vandalism warnings that you issued to along with the reverts that you made:, ,.

The effect of your reverts seemed to undo a lot more than just the formatting errors which you described as vandalism. (Frankly, I think that the errors were innocent mistakes of an editor unfamiliar with wikimarkup and the Manual of Style, and didn't deserve to be tagged as vandalism.) It looks like you were – likely inadvertently – engaging in a revert war over content in a BLP. Your views would be most helpful in the AN/I discussion. Thanks, TenOfAllTrades(talk) 19:49, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Replied both at TOAT's talk and at ANI. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 22:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, that makes sense. I was wondering if it was something of the like.  I know that when I use the standard 'rollback' function on Wikipedia, it now shows a diff of the rollback so I can see what was changed.  If Huggle isn't doing this, maybe someone needs to submit a feature request... Cheers!  TenOfAllTrades(talk) 22:37, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, your talk page isn't just broken in IE; Opera also doesn't display it correctly. (Unless I'm supposed to have to scroll a full screen sideways to see any of the messages....) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 22:39, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:26, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Gorean
Hi Neuro. I have read through the guidelines and such that you sent me before, and better understand the guidelines for wiki. I have been in contact with a couple of the other contributors to the Gorean article, and looking to rewrite some of what is there and place citations for them. The problem is that you stated in a previous message to me that a geocity site could not be used. I could not find anything in the guidelines that prevents this, though understandable that it is not prefered. There are currently two Geocity sites by Gorean Philosophers that need to be used as citations in a couple of locations, do you have any recommendations for this? Also, the Second Life link on that page seems to have been put there to advertise for that group, is there a reason to allow it to remain or how should that one be handled? I looked all over, probably inadequately, to try and find some guidelines in wiki that would answer these. If it is too much trouble for assistance, I understand everyone's time is limited but if you could at least point me in the right direction it would be appreciated. OrionTheWolf (talk) 23:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
 * ..Thanks for the extra information Neuro. Hopefully with some diligence I, and some of the other contributors can bring the Gorean article up to wiki standards. OrionTheWolf (talk) 14:39, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

MfD
Thanks for taking care of it. I realize it was deleted after I nominated it. I wasn't sure sure if G4 would apply to to such an article. I realize that it can be applied to any XfD. Anyways, thanks again. LeaveSleaves talk 08:02, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
<font face="Trebuchet MS">design by neurolysis | to add this barnstar to your awards page, simply copy and paste
 * It's alive! :D <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 21:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Gator-Amaz.gif
Thanks for your message regarding this image. I think it has some permission information on it, but maybe the format is not correct. I uploaded the image for User:PraeceptorIP, upon request. He is a law professor teaching.. copyright law, so I am sure a reasonable permission tag can be inserted after discussing this with him. Thanks. Cheers, --Edcolins (talk) 19:43, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply.
 * Please take a look at the Gator-Amaz image page with updated comment. If you would like to suggest an appropriate permission tag to use instead of all of that text, I think that would be great. -- PraeceptorIP (talk) 21:39, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi Neurolysis. I have no objection to your providing a copyright tag and fair use rationale. Before I saw your message, I took a shot at it. But feel free to supply a more appropriate one. BTW, on anorther note, the following cases on analytic dissection, among dozens of similar cases, hold that functional material does not "count" in an infringement analysis: Data East USA, Inc. v. Epyx, Inc., 862 F.2d 204 (9th Cir. 1988) (video game case); Computer Associates International, Inc. v. Altai, Inc., 982 F.2d 693 (2d Cir. 1992) (computer program case); Gates Rubber Co. v. Bando Chemical Industries, Ltd., 9 F.3d 823 (10th Cir. 1993) (computer program case). See also 17 USC sec. 102(b), which excludes functionality from copyright protection because it is properly the province of patent law. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PraeceptorIP (talk • contribs) 04:21, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply, reply, and reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Re - My vote
Sorry! I didn't even realise I had voted! It will not happen again. Thanks for reverting it. Andy (talk) 15:52, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Original post and reply. <font face="Trebuchet MS">&mdash; neuro(talk) 16:32, 3 December 2008 (UTC)