User talk:Northamerica1000/Archive 28

WikiProject Breakfast
I am trying to leave a message on the projects talkpage, but I can't edit it because it has Flow enabled. I then thought that if I removed the Flow template temporarily I could leave a message and restore the template, but what I removed was not the flow software, but some informative template, and then I wasn't able to restore it, and each edit I then made got worse, and I can't work out how to restore it, because the page doesn't behave normally and allow undo. Would you look into it for me, and repair the mess I made. And, if you know, could you tell me how to leave messages on flow enabled pages. Regards  SilkTork  ✔Tea time  14:31, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : Due to the interface at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Breakfast, I can't access it to edit. As such, I will notify people who work on Flow with talkback messages to this discussion in hopes to obtain input/resolution. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 16:27, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping, Northamerica1000. Hi, I've partially fixed-up the header, and will now file bugs for the problems with the text-entry box not expanding properly, and the WikiProject banner template not saving as expected (visible


 * AlisonW's page move also gave a Facebook reference which it is unnecessary to repeat. BencherliteTalk 22:06, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks Bencherlite. Maybe just ignore me.  I just had to scroll my watchlist a tiny bit to see the article deletion 6 minutes earlier.  I guess I am still in 2008 and hadn't noticed the page move.  I do remember it being a nicely formatted article.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 22:21, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
 * It appears that this query has been answered by Bencherlite, as their responses have essentially provided explanation. However, if you have any additional questions, just let me know. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 21:31, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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What do you think about this edit? I use to watch that article som some reson. Hafspajen (talk) 21:16, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : It seems all right, because it appears that:
 * Unsubstantiated claims have been removed (e.g. this version included "made without yeast" and " in most versions..."). It is entirely possible that some versions may be prepared using yeast, and the notion that it is used as a side dish for meat "in most versions" was not backed by a reliable source. As such, the rewriting of this matter of "often served as a side dish" is acceptable to me.
 * Removal of all the country names, but leaving Central European cuisine in place is an acceptable substitute
 * Per the above, I have edited that article to include countries not listed in the Central European cuisine article (diff).
 * – N ORTH A MERICA 1000 21:49, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yes, I agree. Hafspajen (talk) 22:15, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * About which, the article's state, or my liking the semmelknödel and soup? N ORTH A MERICA 1000 22:17, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * With all, but I meant article. I like semmelknödel and soup and Fiskbullar too. Hafspajen (talk) 22:39, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Aah yes, canned fish, the ultimate in convenience. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 22:46, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it is rather messy doing it home....

This dish to the left works for me...nice combination plate! N ORTH A MERICA 1000 23:09, 5 March 2015 (UTC)


 * : You got me thinkin' so I created a new combination plate article...N ORTH A MERICA 1000 23:43, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Oh, wow, how creative!!!! Great job! Hafspajen (talk) 23:52, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Angela Beesley Starling (2nd nomination)
If it's not too much trouble, would you mind un-deleting and re-deleting the Angela Starling redirect to give a link to the AFD in the deletion log. The deletion log currently shows that you deleted it G8, which is correct, but confusing as all getout. Cheers, Hi DrNick ! 16:56, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Music Tech Fest
Is up for deletion.

An SPA was created an hour or so after 's and !votes  on 09:06, 3 March 2015.

Another SPA is created 10:20, 5 March 2015, edits the article, and !votes, and includes the sig from the first SPA.

I guess it theoretically could be a coincidence, although my first thought is that it smells of dirty footwear. Your thoughts? -- Sam Sailor Talk! 08:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I suggest WP:SPI. The Banner talk 10:10, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello : Yes, WP:SPI is the place to go regarding suspected socking. See the "How to open an investigation:" box on that page for more information, along with Sockpuppet investigations/SPI/Guide to filing cases for more information. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 20:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Merge
Hi NorthAmerica1000, do you remember Articles for deletion/Environmental impact of K-Cups from three months ago? Even though the closing admin closed it as "merge", nothing has happened to the article since then. A month ago I posted a request to the closing admin that the article be re-named before the merge/redirect, in order to avoid WP:UNDUE, but has not responded despite an additional post on his talk page (he seems to be virtually inactive).

My questions for you:

1. Since you are an admin familiar with the case, could you do the re-name and deletion of the old title (to avoid double redirect), assuming you agree with that proposal? (By the way, two other editors agree with the rename -- "thanked" me, and  agreed on the article's talk page.) A non-admin could move the page but not automatically delete the double redirect, so that's why I'm asking you.

2. If you have time, could you perform the merge to the two destination articles, summarizing the various applicable RSs you found or noted in the AfD into each article (Single-serve coffee container and Keurig) as applicable, in a few sentences in each article? That would help everyone as well.

Here is the article and talk page: Environmental impact of K-Cups, Talk:Environmental impact of K-Cups.

Anyway, I hope you have the time and interest for this; if not, I understand. Softlavender (talk) 02:28, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Hi : Despite having contributed to the AfD discussion, I think I'm going to bow out on becoming involved with this for now. Recent discussion has occurred on the talk page yesterday and today, and I feel that this is the best forum for a consensus to be reached regarding the article. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 09:43, 10 March 2015 (UTC)


 * OK no worries; thanks for getting back to me. Softlavender (talk) 10:52, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

Closing an AfD
Hello Northamerica1000, could you please take a look at Antonio Marcel Green. I closed the AfD as Nomination Withdrawn, but the template was re-added to the article. Could you have a look and see what I did wrong? Thanks, JMHamo (talk) 19:12, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : Cyberbot I replaced the AfD template atop the article, which possibly occurred due to a minor formatting error at Articles for deletion/Antonio Marcel Green, which I have fixed (diff). I have watchlisted the article to see if the bot replaces the tag again or not. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 19:19, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Many thanks. JMHamo (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

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Metrics
Australia uses the metric NOT the cup measure system :). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.99.122.130 (talk) 23:31, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
 * What article does this pertain to? N ORTH A MERICA 1000 23:34, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Miss Heritage International
Hello, I'm rather surprised you pushed Miss Heritage International to the Main space, it's a complete mess that needs a lot of work. Was it not better to keep it as a draft and tidy it there? JMHamo (talk) 03:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I see you're overhauling it now. It looks a lot better than it did 20 minutes ago. Thanks :) JMHamo (talk) 03:22, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've been on it the entire time. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 03:24, 13 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Check out Miss Heritage International now. It's a start... N ORTH A MERICA 1000 04:03, 13 March 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Hi : Cool, and thanks. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 21:05, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 2
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Work on our prototype will begin imminently. In the meantime, we have to understand what exactly we're working with. To this end, we generated a list of 71 WikiProjects, based on those brought up on our Stories page and those who had signed up for pilot testing. For those projects where people told stories, we coded statements within those stories to figure out what trends there were in these stories. This approach allowed us to figure out what Wikipedians thought of WikiProjects in a very organic way, with very little by way of a structure. (Compare this to a structured interview, where specific questions are asked and answered.) This analysis was done on 29 stories. Codes were generally classified as "benefits" (positive contributions made by a WikiProject to the editing experience) and "obstacles" (issues posed by WikiProjects, broadly speaking). Codes were generated as I went along, ensuring that codes were as close to the original data as possible. Duplicate appearances of a code for a given WikiProject were removed.

We found 52 "benefit" statements encoded and 34 "obstacle" statements. The most common benefit statement referring to the project's active discussion and participation, followed by statements referring to a project's capacity to guide editor activity, while the most common obstacles made reference to low participation and significant burdens on the part of the project maintainers and leaders. This gives us a sense of WikiProjects' big strength: they bring people together, and can be frustrating to editors when they fail to do so. Meanwhile, it is indeed very difficult to bring editors together on a common interest; in the absence of a highly motivated core of organizers, the technical infrastructure simply isn't there.

We wanted to pair this qualitative study with quantitative analysis of a WikiProject and its "universe" of pages, discussions, templates, and categories. To this end I wrote a script called ProjAnalysis which will, for a given WikiProject page (e.g. WikiProject Star Trek) and WikiProject talk-page tag (e.g. Template:WikiProject Star Trek), will give you a list of usernames of people who edited within the WikiProject's space (the project page itself, its talk page, and subpages), and within the WikiProject's scope (the pages tagged by that WikiProject, excluding the WikiProject space pages). The output is an exhaustive list of usernames. We ran the script to analyze our test batch of WikiProjects for edits between March 1, 2014 and February 28, 2015, and we subjected them to further analysis to only include those who made 10+ edits to pages in the projects' scope, those who made 4+ edits to the projects' space, and those who made 10+ edits to pages in scope but not 4+ edits to pages in the projects' space. This latter metric gives us an idea of who is active in a certain subject area of Wikipedia, yet who isn't actively engaging on the WikiProject's pages. This information will help us prioritize WikiProjects for pilot testing, and the ProjAnalysis script in general may have future life as an application that can be used by Wikipedians to learn about who is in their community.

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Hafspajen (talk) 20:25, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I wish my kitchen was that large. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 22:14, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, it has its drawbacks too. Lots of walking back and forth...Hafspajen (talk) 22:38, 17 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Yeah, but a boom box there would work nicely there, because the tall ceiling provides good acoustics...N ORTH A MERICA 1000 22:43, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Old School CookBreakdance oldschool.jpg ...? Hafspajen (talk) 23:17, 17 March 2015 (UTC)

– A suggestion: try to improve Dinner, which is TAFI's weekly article for improvement, if you're interested... N ORTH A MERICA 1000 00:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OH, somebody is trying to get me in into some new culinary catastrophic failure... And why don't we have this aritcle? Hafspajen (talk) 00:39, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * That is a project in and of itself. In the new image you placed here, some of those ingredients could be used to make an artichoke dip (new article) ...N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:00, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I never met anyone who always is thinking about food when it comes to artwork. But then, of course, it was meant to be thought of in this way from the beginning.... Hafspajen (talk) 01:05, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was thinking about the basket in the image...N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:07, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You make food of baskets? Hafspajen (talk) 01:27, 18 March 2015 (UTC)?


 * Not much, although it has been done...(see cornucopia image above)! N ORTH A MERICA 1000 01:33, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
 * OK, now I get it. The basket looks like a cornucopia, and like the basket in the painting... Hafspajen (talk) 17:50, 18 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Maybe...? Nah. Apples and oranges. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 13:07, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * How do you want me to improve your dinner. Hafspajen (talk) 08:55, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

Erdbeerkuchen

 * Thanks, strawberry cake looks nice. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 21:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

How do you find non-copyrighted songs? I'm hoping to find "Pink Floyd" non-copyrighted songs ty and peace ` — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grateful Deadhead (talk • contribs) 23:32, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Is this query about improving Wikipedia content? N ORTH A MERICA 1000 00:06, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

Nice article
I just approved the DYK for PizzaRev. Care to return the favor at Template:Did you know nominations/Viktor (film)? Thanks,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 06:47, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * ✅. It's not much of a review for now, and I'll try to revisit the nomination page if the article is retained (which seems rather likely) after the deletion discussion has concluded. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 07:20, 23 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Upon further consideration, I have provided a review and an ALT1 at the nomination page. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 07:28, 23 March 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you too!

 * Thanks, and cheers. N ORTH A MERICA 1000 09:04, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Lost something I was here last time... NevermindCoverSpoof.jpg. Had to walk all the way home, couldn't pay the cab... and left the car home of course, party and all that.. Hafspajen (talk) 09:32, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

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Deletion review for Apple iCar
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Apple iCar. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. EoRdE6(Come Talk to Me!) 05:02, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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