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DYK for Plum cake
Harrias talk 06:52, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Plum cake
Seeing that you've been doing a lot there, I've got a couple of points. One is that I've never heard of raisins etc being referred to as plums here in the modern UK. A plum is - a plum, sort of dark bluish fruit and very juicy (or green and called a greengage, or dried and called a prune). A lot of people here don't really understand why plum pudding is called that - and nowadays it's called Christmas pudding anyway and never served any other time. Come to that, I can't recall 'fruitcake' being called 'plum cake' either. Only in old books, perhaps. Apart from all this, the reference 'Moore 1999' looks possibly like a bit of advertising for a book of letters from kids about the Harry Potter books, and it doesn't mention plums or cakes either. Even if not a hidden plug, it looks totally irrelevant. I'm bringing this to you, because I wanted to slap a 'citation needed' on the raisins still being called plums, but wondered if I was missing something about that reference that doesn't seem to support anything. Peridon (talk) 19:49, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
 * PS I got to that article while deciding not to unblock an IP who had vandalised it. I only see DYKs by accident on talk pages. Peridon (talk) 19:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Hello : Thanks for the input. For starters, I have addended the article. It now reads as per below (italic emphasis mine herein). North America1000 21:31, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

"...and the term plum originally referred to prunes, raisins or grapes in England. In Old English, the term plūme was 'from medieval Latin pruna, from Latin prunum, which equated to prune."


 * That looks better - but I still can't really see a book of kids' letters being a good reference... Peridon (talk) 08:36, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * As time allows, I may work on finding a better source. North America1000 23:13, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * A good source is needed.

Pubs in London template
This is going to get massive isn't it? What about splitting it into "by borough"? Philafrenzy (talk) 17:27, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : See discussion at Talk:List of pubs in London. North America1000 23:59, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

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Nomination of Carpenters Arms and List of pubs named Carpenter Arms in the United Kingdom for deletion
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 * So why was I invited to this party?  Bfpage &#124;leave a message 00:27, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
 * For what it's worth, other stuff exists. See Ray's Pizza. North America1000 00:29, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

April 2015 Wikification awards.
Cheers! :) &#34;A wiki of beauty is a joy forever.&#34; Seriously. That&#39;s how long it&#39;d take to read! (talk) 03:40, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
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Help & Thanks
Hi North America 1000

Id like to thank you for your assistance with getting Community_First_Credit_Union merged. Its much appreciated on our end as we're only trying to do everything correctly. One question I have is that The Red pen of Doom keeps removing cited and referenced content (see change log) and hasn't given any explanation as to why he/she removed it. The information is consistent with other WP:Corp's who are similar. I would like to undo what TRPoD has done but would be appreciated if you could have a quick look, as I'm mindful of not trying to offend? (obviously happy if they were removed within any guidelines, but would like to get feedback if they were)

Cheers Mate Bowey21 (talk) 01:05, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello : As an involved person that closed the AfD discussion, it is best if I do not become directly involved in performing major edits to the article. I recommend discussing the matter on the article's talk page, where input from the editor you mention above and others may be consolidated in one place. North America1000 23:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Rashid Dar Article was Real
Here are few links which shows about the reality of the article. http://www.journalismpakistan.com/myprofile.php?profileid=MzM5&msg=1 http://www.shashca.com/columnists/ http://www.dailymotion.com/RashidxDar https://twitter.com/rashiddarx http://rashid-dar.webs.com/ www.facebook.com/rashid.columnist KIndly Undo this article and also help in creating the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.58.136.216 (talk) 10:33, 7 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Hello: The Rashid Dar article was deleted per the discussion at Articles for deletion/Rashid Dar. Subjects must meet guidelines at WP:BASIC to qualify for an article on Wikipedia. Verification that a person exists is not enough to qualify an article. They need to have received significant coverage in independent, reliable sources to qualify. While the subject may be quite notable in other arenas of the world, Wikipedia has these rules in place to maintain the encyclopedic nature of the project. North America1000 10:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Can we please revert the page "Sama Language" to "Sinama"
I would like to request again that the Sama Language page be reverted back to Sinama. My original discussion that I started on the Sinama talk page never received a response either from User:Northamerica1000 or User:Kwamikagami. Here is a repeat of the message I wrote there: The language page should be listed as Sinama and not Sama for the following reasons:

1. Sama speakers do not recognize Sama as a language. Therefore on facebook when listed as Sama Language for years only around 200 users spoke it. For the past month or so when listed as Sinama 3,400 speakers identified Sinama as their language. This move back to Sama Language will now alienate those users on Facebook. (Update on this is that before Facebook switched the page to Sama language, the number of speakers had reached the current 5,300. Unfortunately no more have been added since then since Sama Language is not recognized by Sinama speakers)

2. Ethnographic literature has consistently called the language "Sinama". I can provide the references by Sather, Nimmo, Bottignolo, Pallesen, Teo if needed.

3. There are two other languages called Sama on wikipedia. One from Gabon and one from Angola. There is no reason to add a third when the speakers of this language recognize it as Sinama.

4. What I feel is most clear on this subject is the Central Sinama dictionary by Kemp Pallesen. Sama people use Sama to refer to the people and Sinama to refer to the language. This is consistent with these two definitions provided by the SIL published dictionary on the issue. Sama: "The Sinama-speaking people or Sama, often called Samal or Badjaw by outsiders." Sinama: "The language spoken by the Sama."

5. I am no expert on Wikipedia, but the only reason that the page was originally able to be moved to Sama Language is because a wrong spelling was used sama_langauage. It seems like discussion for this issue should take place on the talk page of the Sinama article, especially when referring to the confusion caused on Facebook.

I hope this can be resolved fast. I have been pouring my time and great effort into making this page useful with good information. I've worked with current anthropologists to provide good pictures. I have been working carefully with the ethnographic material. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sinama-Webmaster (talk • contribs) 13:52, 9 May 2015 (UTC)


 * ✅ Sama language has been moved to Sinama. North America1000 18:03, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

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 * : All's well that ends well. North America1000 05:58, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

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Rejected draft, references need to be added to Mutton curry
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Lamb_curry

-- C E  (talk) 00:42, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the link to Draft:Lamb curry. I didn't know this existed. North America1000 00:47, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

Closing Articles for deletion/Melanie Specht (2nd nomination)
Would you mind closing this? It's nearly two weeks old and I'm fairly sure that consensus has been reached. Thank you. LADY LOTUS • TALK 17:02, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
 * N.b. closed by another user. North America1000 21:36, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

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What was up with all the changes to the template? It's specifically designed to be used with mass message, without needing to be edited itself, per the documentation. - Evad37 &#91;talk] 01:48, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : Previous versions were sent with the note:

"Posted by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of (User name) (talk) 00:08, 27 April 2015 (UTC) • Opt-out instructions" The version I sent was worded as: "Sent by Northamerica1000 using mass messaging on 00:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC) • Opt-out instructions" I feel that the wording of the previous versions is somewhat backwards. If anything, it should read: "Posted by (User name) (talk) on 00:33, 4 May 2015 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery, on behalf of WikiProject TAFI • Opt-out instructions" Essentially, the template is being sent on behalf of the project, rather than the user sending it. Since I was the one sending it this time around with my name, I wanted to word differently. What do you think about rewording the template as per the third quote above? North America1000 22:15, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Also, using mass messaging requires using a header in the Subject of the message section, which creates two headers when using the template. Part of the changes I performed was to temporarily remove the header from the template and use it in the heading section when I used the Special:MassMessage page. I'm not sure how, who has been sending the template, dealt with the header matter, so pinging them herein. North America1000 22:46, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I used a pre-filled message code listed at the bottom of this page. The code worked well, I haven't got to send a mass message using the new updates to the template. ///Euro Car  GT  00:05, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. What do you think about rewording the text as per my quote 3 above? North America1000 00:07, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Any message would work fine. Your quote is more "identifiable" and descriptive as it shows it was sent on behalf of TAFI, so that's a plus. ///Euro Car  GT  00:15, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Essentially, the template is being sent on behalf of the project – agreed, I'll modify the template to use that wording.
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 * using mass messaging requires using a header in the Subject of the message section... – yes; ...which creates two headers when using the template – no it doesn't. If used per the documentation, i.e. with the 1 parameter filled in, then the template will not create a heading. - Evad37 &#91;talk] 03:35, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info. Will keep all of this in mind the next time I perform the messaging. : Thanks for your input as well. It's all appreciated. North America1000 04:39, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Due to a tie, there are six articles scheduled for TAFI's Week 22. I believe that the TAFI weekly selections notice template will require further modification per the upcoming six (rather than five) articles. If could assist in this upcoming matter, the help would be greatly appreciated. North America1000 08:30, 10 May 2015 (UTC)

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DYK for Sliding bookcase
Thank you for your help with DYK Victuallers (talk) 19:10, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Sandwich bread
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 07:55, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Comments on talk page of AFD discussion page
Hi there. I know you sometimes deal with AFD closure issues, and I just happened to run across an oddity. One user left his/her comments at Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Tistory: Special Live Tour, a now-closed discussion's talk page, instead of on the project page. I don't know if this makes any difference in terms of proper archival of the discussion or not, but I just wanted to alert someone in case it does. Thanks for your attention! :) Shinyang-i (talk) 05:24, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi : This occurs occasionally, and it's fine just to leave it in place, particularly since the recommendation to merge there is the same as the discussion closure. If you'd like, you can contact the poster and ask them if you could move it to Talk:Tistory: Special Live Tour, where the comment is more likely to actually be seen. North America1000 07:36, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

(Untitled)
Dear kind soul,

Your sandwhich definition blew me and my friends out of the water. You impressed us and provided incredible clarity to our day. Thank you for your commitment to sandwich history.

Cheers

deep commitment to providing for your community — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1012:B00B:C31F:C0B1:B36E:2C00:9CBE (talk) 06:22, 14 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the kind words. I'm assuming this is about the new sandwich bread article. North America1000 08:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

TAFI week 22, 2015 update
Please note that Personality is also an article for improvement for week 22, 2015. Thank you. Sent by Northamerica1000 using mass messaging on 01:11, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

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