User talk:OlEnglish/Archive 3

Goat Star
As the first person to edit the article after creation, you are recipient number 1 of this award. Cheers!  Chzz  ►  21:52, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * This is now documented in User:Chzz/Recipients of the Goat Star.  Chzz  ►  21:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)


 * lol! I'm honoured :) -- OlEnglish (Talk) 22:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Answer to your comment
Technically, you must have been tricked by me, since your signature can be found here. --Muzekal Mike (talk) 02:53, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I just realized that :) That's why I said keep. -- OlEnglish (Talk) 03:20, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The Last Question
I noticed you reverted my edit to The Last Question, restoring the link to a site which contained almost nothing except an illegal copy of the story, violating WP:ELNEVER. I don't want to start an edit war, but this is pretty cut and dried. Kufat (talk) 14:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Tis a shame... it's a really nice site.. really complements the article well. But... the law's the law. -- &oelig; &trade; 19:09, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

RFA Thanks
Mifter (talk) 23:47, 6 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Your welcome. -- &oelig; &trade; 23:49, 6 June 2009 (UTC)

TotD
On my entry at the TotD Talk page you wrote:

Good tip, but I don't think the several different-width hr's surrounding the title are necessary, I can see how it illustrates the point but it makes the page look 'broken'. -- &oelig; &trade; 13:02, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the "tip", &oelig; ! All but one rm'd    .`^) Paine Ellsworthdiss`cuss (^`.   15:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Happy to be of service. :) -- &oelig; &trade; 02:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Concerning Talk:Philomena
OI English,

May I ask you a question?

In the discussion-page of Saint Philomena I've added some details after recearch, however, some comments have been added that contain some glaring errors. If I address these directly, I may start a war, and so incur an R3 block. How do I address them without being pointed?

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:24, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your support.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi there, next time, please don't edit my userpage. Post any messages for me here, this is my talk page. :)
 * With regard to Philomena, first off please be aware of Wikipedia's policies on original research, and neutral point of view. I assume you've read these very important pages?
 * Question: Are you posting as ? Sorry for asking, I'm not accusing you but please also be aware of Sock puppetry policy.
 * Regarding the comments, whatever it is you want to address go ahead and do it as long as it's on the talk page. If you're posting on the talk page and not changing the article directly you don't have to worry about incurring an R3 block, so address away! Discuss any changes you want to make first and if you get consensus then all should be OK!. ;) -- &oelig; &trade; 01:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for getting back to me OI English.

No, I am not any thing other than "MacOfJesus". Filumenae uses the word "honor", I would say "honour": She said she is webmaster for her society.

I am very timerous of progressing on that road as I may be drawn in the mire of "tit-for-tat".

Sorry for leaving a message on your main page,

Regards.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

By "talk page" here, do you mean "the discussion page" of Saint Philomena"?

Regards,

MacOfJesus (talk) 21:38, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes.

On another subject completely:

I noticed your honour re the goat:

Did you know that the goat will not eat anything that the human has touched?

MacOfJesus (talk) 23:53, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Heh really? Why is that? -- &oelig; &trade; 08:03, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Coming from an agricultural background, we know these things. We have to be careful in feeding the goat in winter.

Also from the Gospels, when Our Lord spoke the parables re the sheep and goats, the shephard would send in the goats first then the sheep to pasture, as they eat different things, and goats don't tend to churn up the soil with their hoofs. In very hot countries the sheep and goats have to be brought to fertile pasture and then to the well for watering.

Thanks for your help. (I left the message on the talk page, hope it will be OK.)

MacOfJesus (talk) 11:23, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

In the evolutionary ladder, goats and sheep are perhaps the widest apart. You have only to look at the difference of their eyes! If a goat eats something you have handled it will either spit it out or get sick. Perhaps there is a site in Wikipedia for animal husbandry that can throw light on this.

MacOfJesus (talk) 02:25, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

Have found the site "Animal husbsndry" and left the question on the talk page!

MacOfJesus (talk) 16:08, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Re: your edit summary
--  Tinu  Cherian  - 02:13, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/42ers Basketball Team
The article in question has been deliberately written in a humorous manner by the editors. It is not a serious attempt at an article, more like a deliberate parody of a Wikipedia article. The "sources" are invented and the idea that any article that makes a claim that "Currently the 42ers are negotiating with Latrobe City for the naming rights of the new court, with 42ers Stadium and Fort 42 the preferred options at this stage" is laughable. I repeat, this article is a parody of a Wikipedia article, and a rather well done one at that. Your failure to understand that is mind-boggling. -- Mattinbgn\talk 11:04, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, is it really? I don't know.. it doesn't sound like such a ridiculous claim.. I admit I don't know anything about the subject. Are you saying I was taken in by an elaborate hoax? That the editor(s) were taking advantage of my assuming good faith? That would be a trip! Wikipedia never ceases to entertain me. -- &oelig; &trade; 11:14, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Almost without a doubt a parody. I have an advantage in being able to spot it as I too played in a (championship winning!) B-grade amateur basketball competition in another town in Victoria, Australia and as such I know that there is no way the local paper would provide any coverage at all to the team (other than in a table of scores towards the back). Even in our championship match, the "crowd" consisted of wives and girlfriends and the municipal authorities would never have considered naming a stadium after a bunch of amateur sportsman more interested in a beer after the game than any glory! I mean, is it really plausible that the City of Latrobe would name their municipal stadium after these guys!


 * It isn't quite a hoax as I am sure the team exists but the claims to notability are invented and the supposed "sources" ingeniously provided to look plausible on first glance. It's all a bit of fun but I was a little surprised to see people take the article so seriously. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 06:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Heheh, well I guess being from Australia you would know better. My sympathy for the underdog got the better of me, I feel a little foolish now. :) But it was a learning experience. -- &oelig; &trade; 06:38, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I'd really appreciate your input
What do you think of Template:Drug policy? I just created it, but I thought I'd leave it a few days till it goes live, as it perhaps has a few kinks. Such as being a little unwieldy... (please reply on the template talkpage) Anxietycello (talk) 21:37, 12 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Answered on template talkpage. -- &oelig; &trade; 06:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

sig
You changed your sig ... cool ... I like it! (and thank-you by the way ;)) — Ched : ?  00:23, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

WARNING
Any and all changes made to any and all pages related to Abercrombie & Fitch Co. pages are for LEGAL REASONS, and are absolutely necessary. Should these changes be deleted or repeatedly altered, Wikipedia may face litigation regarding the validity of the information being posed in regards to A&F on its sight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anfbp (talk • contribs) 00:22, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * No legal threats. -- &oelig; &trade; 00:24, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
 * "on its sight"... funny. I would hope real corporation legal teams can spell! Verbal   chat  19:06, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Linking
Dear OIEnglish, I placed recently some additions to the main site of Saint Dismas. However, I would like to add some "linking" to the other main sites in Wikipedia. I think it would be helpful. However, I don't know how to do it. Am I able to do it now? I am aware of over linking.

MacOfJesus (talk) 17:36, 25 June 2009 (UTC)


 * To make a wikilink, enclose the selected word in brackets: (eg. example becomes example ). For more information: Help:Link. -- &oelig; &trade; 17:51, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Dear OIEnglish,

Thank you. It worked.

MacOfJesus (talk) 19:12, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sin (rapper)
i see you have disputed this article, can you please elaporate on what parts of the article you are disputing so changes can be made. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.230.250 (talk) 19:14, June 25, 2009


 * I haven't disputed it, I wasn't the one who originally placed the tags there. I merely replaced the tags you removed without any explanation. Read my edit summary in the article's history. -- &oelig; &trade; 05:04, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Category:Shortcuts that are English words
Is the category not intended to be comprehensive? Anomie⚔ 18:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Meh.. I guess it could be. The way I've been maintaining it is to just keep it to simple common English words, and try to avoid plurals that are duplicates, ie. they both go to the same page.


 * Not that it's a vital category or anything.. but it panders to my incessant need to organize and clean things. :) -- &oelig; &trade; 20:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Technical edits
Sorry I didn't get around to this earlier, but it's done now. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:33, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks. -- &oelig; &trade; 16:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Requested move of The Score Group
You should withdraw this requested move. See Manual of Style (trademarks): Oren0 (talk) 02:34, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official":
 * avoid: REALTOR®, TIME, KISS
 * instead, use: Realtor, Time, Kiss


 * Hmm. Thanks for pointing me to that; obviously there's still a few areas of the MoS which I've not read. I've noticed though that that guideline isn't very consistent as I've come across many cases where the article title follows capitalisation that the subject defines as their 'official' name (that sometimes being a lower-case first letter, in which case lowercase title is used) and noone makes any huff about this part of the MoS. Anyway, I will withdraw citing Manual of Style (trademarks) as the reason. -- &oelig; &trade; 05:41, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 *  Even my own sig is trademarked! Duh me. :) -- &oelig; &trade; 05:58, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Eh, it happens. I wouldn't worry about it.  Your point about lowercase titles is interesting, given article titles such as iPod and iPhone. Oren0 (talk) 08:16, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * On second thought, MOSTM addresses this as well. "The following guidelines represent a consensus that compromises between the preferred treatment of a trademark owner and the rules of standard written English... Trademarks beginning with a one-letter lowercase prefix pronounced as a separate letter do not need to be capitalized if the second letter is capitalized, but should otherwise follow normal capitalization rules" Oren0 (talk) 08:20, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia_talk:Silly_Things
Wikipedia_talk:Silly_Things.--Otterathome (talk) 10:54, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Replied at talk page. -- &oelig; &trade; 11:22, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Reply
Thank you for the welcome. :) About twinkle: I enabled it in my prefs, and when I tried using it, it said I was too new to use it. But I'll use it after I'm autoconfirmed. Thanks! --Midnight Comet (talk) 14:31, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedian of the Day
Congratulations, OlEnglish! For your kindness to others, your hard work around the wiki, and for being a great user, you have been awarded the "Wikipedian of the Day" award for today, June 29, 2009! Keep up the great work! Note: You could also recieve the "Wikipedian of the Week award for this week!

Happy editing!

Midnight Comet 14:05, 29 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, thank you. -- &oelig; &trade; 16:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Cookie


Jezhotwells has given you a cookie! Cookies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a cookie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy munching!

Spread the goodness of cookies by adding {{subst:Cookie}} to someone's talk page with a friendly message, or eat this cookie on the giver's talk page with {{subst:munch}}!

Thanks for the barnstar, it is good to be appreciated. Jezhotwells (talk) 22:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
 * =) -- &oelig; &trade; 22:07, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup Barnstar
OE, I am extremely appreciative of the Barnstar that you bestowed upon me. It really means a lot. Might I ask how you came to give it to me? I am puzzled because I don't recall running into you on any of the pages I have edited. I have one idea of what might have prompted it, but it embarrasses me to think that that could have been the inspiration for your gift. Could you enlighten me? I'm so puzzled. Un sch  ool  21:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Hehe, well after reading your userpage I noticed your contributions and saw that you haven't got it yet and were very deserving of it. I totally support your commitment to cleaning out the Category:Cleanup by month backlog, otherwise it will just grow and grow beyond manageability. I have always believed that now that Wikipedia has enough quantity of articles, equal and sufficient effort must be made to improve the quality of existing articles and help remove these unsightly tags. They go ignored far too often by too many editors and to find someone that takes the time to do at least one cleanup a month is refreshing and leads me to re-dedicate my commitment to this project. Plus as you can probably tell from the recent posts above I was in a very giving mood that day. :)


 * How I came across your userpage in the first place I don't quite remember.. it might have been via Special:Random/User but I'm not sure.. maybe Recent changes?. Or.. most likely it was when your name came up on an edit to one of the pages on my watchlist and I just impulsively clicked on it. :) I'm curious now.. what is it that you were thinking was my inspiration? -- &oelig; &trade; 22:21, 30 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I was correct; apparently you navigated to this user page of mine. I guess I'm a bit embarrassed because it would be very easy to interpret the creation of that page as being a deliberate ploy to be given exactly such a Barnstar as you have given me.  But that really wasn't what it was for; it was for what I said on the page it was for—just a personal record of work of which I'm proud.  Anyway, thanks for looking at it, and I'll now be sure to redouble my efforts.  My goal from here on out will be to try to do two cleanups a month, so as to be truly deserving of your kind gesture.  I really, really appreciate it.  Cheers.   Un  sch  ool  02:27, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Cleanup Project
BTW, what do you think about the idea of reviving Cleanup Taskforce but focusing it on just Category:Cleanup by month? One idea might be to assign one or two articles per month to a participating editors' "desk" for them to work on for that month. This might help with cleaning out the backlog. The most recent attempt at revival it seems is here but without much success. -- &oelig; &trade; 00:14, 2 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I was unaware of the one-time existence of this project. I'm definitely interested in something like this.  Here's some thoughts right off the top of my head.
 * Membership would ideally be conditional, with conditions such as:
 * Agreeing to a statement that, to this particular editor, article cleanup was their primary mission on Wikipedia. This would keep the unenthusiastic from signing up; I've seen many projects whose memberships consist of people who seem to want only to have another userbox on their user page.  Or maybe there could be two types of members; the hardcore who are devoted to cleaning up, and the moral supporters who might occasionally take on something they are interested in doing.
 * Each member-editor would be required to have an article on their plate at all times, posted somewhere in their user space. I would like him to have a goal of when his or her work on the article would be done posted as well.
 * Members would be told at the outset that this would be no priesthood, meaning
 * There are no life-long committments; anyone should feel free to drop out whenever it no longer floats their boat to participate, and
 * Members should not feel like anything they're doing gives them any special privileges regarding articles. WP:OWN not only still applies, but we should be grateful for anyone that comes along to help
 * I also like the idea of keeping a list of articles that have been cleaned up, in a central location in Wikispace. And the tag on the talk page of the cleaned up articles is a great idea.
 * No one would assign pages to an editor; each editor would pick his current project from Category:Cleanup by month, from any month or year he wished. This would be necessary to have enthusiastic participation.
 * I would like to have a new name of the project. What?  I don't know.
 * BIG COMPLICATED IDEA: I would like to have some kind of a grid (I don't know if it would be on the article talk page, or a separate cleanup page for the article (which it looks like they may have done before) which would evaluate the state of the article in several key areas, perhaps like the following:
 * Formatting (Sectioning, reflists, etc.)
 * Quality of prose (including reducing lists within non-list articles)
 * Documentation/Sourcing
 * General aesthetic appeal
 * Lead section
 * The reason for this multi-faceted evaluation is that oftentimes an editor is particularly comfortable with one area of cleanup, but not others, and he may be unable or unwilling to do it all himself. For example, I put a phenomenonal amount of work into Dikir barat (close to eight hours), but part of the reason why it was so difficult for me was that it had been listed as needing sources, and I was (and still am) very inexperienced in properly formatting references into an article.  I would have loved to have had a partner in that effort.


 * Okay, well that's all I can think of now. Looking back at it, I think my expectations may seem somewhat arrogant.  That's not my intention, and I hope you'll tell me honestly what you think of these ideas.   Un  sch  ool  05:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

I think these are excellent ideas! and I did not get an impression of arrogance at all but rather of competence and an enthusiasm towards a worthy vision. If you would take the lead in kick-starting this new project I would support it ancillarily in whatever way I can, as just like a theoreticist vs. an engineer, I'm good with ideas, but actually creating the framework is something I'm not good at. :) I am good at formatting references though so I can help out that way. I can also recruit members and be an active participant. -- &oelig; &trade; 05:36, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your kind comments. Give some time to think some things through.  I've never been part of anything like this before, so it'll take some thinking.  Also, on July 11 I'll be heading into the mountains and will have no access to electricity for at least a week.  So my goal will be to have something ready to go by the end of the month.  Thanks for the inspiration.   Un  sch  ool  05:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok! Shall I post a notice at Wikipedia talk:Cleanup for some feedback or to see if maybe we can get others interested? -- &oelig; &trade; 05:52, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
 * You are certainly free to do so, but from my perspective I think I want to have something more solid to present before we try to recruit. I want to write up an essay and a project page with a framework before "going public".  This is a wiki, so I respect that it will only get better with additional help—however, I am hoping that a more-complete plan will a) engender more enthusisasm and optimism (as you note, it has already failed twice), and b) have a better prospect of surviving; I am going to be gone soon for over a week, and I'd like to be able to participate daily as it evolves.  (Does that sound selfish?)  But you are a free agent, OE, unbeholden to me or anyone else, so I don't expect or want to tie your hands.  Un  sch  ool  06:20, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Note to self: Cleanup volunteers for recruits. -- &oelig; &trade; 00:28, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Looks like someone already beat us to it! WikiProject Council/Proposals/TheCleanTeam. -- &oelig; &trade; 18:37, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

I've replied to your message at Wikipedia talk:Tip of the day
Thanks. -- &oelig; &trade; 22:37, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Sign
Thanks for signing my user page. -- Climax  Void    ☭.
 * No problem. -- &oelig; &trade; 23:01, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Cannabis
Saw you were taking part in the debate about the cannabis (drug) article. Not sure if you have an interest in cannabis legislation, culture, etc. or not, but if so you are welcome to join this WikiProject. Otherwise, take care! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 18:58, 3 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I definitely support the project, and do have an interest in the culture, but I'm afraid I've got way too much on my plate already to devote time to this project as well. Plus I will be going away for a few weeks so I will not have internet access for a short while. -- &oelig; &trade; 21:32, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem! If you ever decide to join, come on over! Otherwise, feel free to check in now and then to see what's going on or maybe participate in our collaboration. Take care! -- Another Believer ( Talk ) 22:59, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

RfA
Hey. Just wondering, what would you say if Requests for Adminship/OlEnglish was a blue link? Cause I'd be happy to turn it blue for you. -- Sk8er5000 (talk) 07:12, 5 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm, you want to nominate me for adminship? I'd like to be an admin, however this is not the right time, as I will not be as available for the next couple weeks, so I won't have the time to adequately complete the process. Perhaps sometime in the future I will gladly accept. -- &oelig; &trade; 21:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


 * When will you be back? I'll file it then. -- Sk8er5000 (talk) 03:58, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Don't have a specific set date, best I can estimate is approximately three weeks before I get active again full-time, but I may pop in occasionally until then. Call it a semi-wikibreak.. there's some things I need to straighten out in RL first before I devote my time here again. So I probably won't be available to answer questions from users in my RfA. Have you ever nominated anyone else before? May I ask why you chose to nominate me? -- &oelig; &trade; 04:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Answered via e-mail. -- Sk8er5000 (talk) 07:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

Ding!
I sent you an email. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 01:32, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Re:Orphantabs
Manish EarthTalk • Stalk 08:48, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:NODRAMA reminder
Thanks for signing up for the Great Wikipedia Dramaout. Wikipedia stands to benefit from the improvements in the article space as a result of this campaign. This is a double reminder. First, the campaign begins on July 18, 2009 at 00:00 (UTC). Second, please remember to log any articles you have worked on during the campaign at The Great Wikipedia Dramaout/Log. Thanks again for your participation! --Jayron32. talk . say no to drama 21:15, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

C6541
I dunno, I came up with a random thing :D Sincerally, C6541 (T↔C)  at 06:38, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Really.. well.. I think I'm gonna try using those numbers on my next lottery ticket. ;) -- &oelig; &trade; 19:18, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Try it, but I get half of the money if you win :p Sincerally, C6541 (T↔C)  at 06:49, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Practical Joke
Dear OIEnglish,

I attempted to place, on the main site, an item entitled: Piltdown Man.

This is now well tabulated, and perhaps in the Western world is the most famous practical joke, which remained hidden until only recently.

However, as I was placing it on it was deleated, so I gave up. Yet, this serious study would be, I believe, of value, even if it is only a cross referance to the site: Piltdown Man or to the professors involved and the journalists involved.

At the time of the discovery this became a massive news item and hugely contraversial until recently, when the professors had died the families said it was meant to be a practical joke, but could not be named as such as it had gone too far.

Why ask for serious study references on the page, when as soon as someone attempts, it is deleated????

It opens up the Missing link Theory, and study on it.

The nearest thing to this was the discovery of "Lucy" in Ethiopia in the eighties, and "the ice man" in the ninties.

Dear OIEnglish,

I did, as you suggested. I placed "Piltdown Man" on the "see also" section of the main article page of practical joke, where it would be appropriate in anyone's understanding. Yet, this was deleated! I did get a response to suggest I try again! Naturally, I am uninclined.

MacOfJesus (talk) 13:40, 21 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm, perhaps you should ask the user who reverted you, User:Pseudomonas, on his talk page. I see you already explained your intentions on the articles talk page as well, that was good. Also you can try adding a link to Piltdown Man in the "See also" section of the Practical joke article. -- &oelig; &trade; 19:29, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Dear OIEnglish,

Would there be any point in attempting a serious entry on piltdown man ?

Or would that be, summorly, automatically cancelled too?

MacOfJesus (talk) 16:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * But there already is an existing article on Piltdown man (??) -- &oelig; &trade; 01:09, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I did'nt make myself clear. Would there be any point in putting in on the site piltdown man some additions or entries to take account for the new outcomes, etc.? Or would that be deleated too, irregardles? Hence, there would'nt be any point.

MacOfJesus (talk) 09:54, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * As long as any content you add is attributable to a reliable, published source, you shouldn't have any problems. -- &oelig; &trade; 23:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

If the published source has a copyright to it? I think this statement was made at the death of one of the professors, and was published in a newspaper. How does that stand?

MacOfJesus (talk) 18:50, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Should be fine. Dunno unless you try right? Go ahead, be bold, if you get reverted take it as a learning experience. -- &oelig; &trade; 18:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

My first teacher, at infancy, said "I was a very sensative child" !

MacOfJesus (talk) 18:50, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Frank Dux
I agree the POV pushing has been fairly extreme. I don't believe that a well-sourced and documented "Controversy" section should be completely removed b/c of it. Simply but, Dux is a controversial figure and the article should reflect that. Certainly, NPOV sanitation is required, but outright deletion is excessive. I am re-instating that section, but I do invite you condense and edit the section for POV. Djma12 (talk) 13:57, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

I invite OLEnglish and Risker to actually explain their whole-scale deletions to this article. WP:BLP is not simply catch-phrase, I think you need to justify HOW the article actually violates this when there is a long-standing section that has numerous reliable sources per WP:RS. Deleting a sourced "Controversy" section was never the intent of WP:BLP, especially when the only objections to the section came from sock-puppet attacks.

Please actually respond to WHY you feel this article violates WP:BLP, otherwise I am reverting the article in two days. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Djma12 (talk • contribs) 15:21, July 22, 2009


 * Replied on articles' talk page. I haven't deleted anything from the article and agree that the Controversy section should stay. -- &oelig; &trade; 22:26, 22 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for making WP:NODRAMA a success!
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Motto of the Day
Hi there, OlEnglish! Thought you might be interested in Motto of the Day, a collaborative (and totally voluntary) effort by a group of Wikipedians to create original, inspirational mottos. Have a good motto idea? Share it here, comment on some of the mottos there or just pass this message onto your friends.

MOTD Needs Your Help!

Delivered By –p joe f (talk • contribs) 07:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

txt
Hello olEnglish,

I looked all around tyring to find someone who had experience here.

i am TOTALLY lost !!! lol Wanted to start info about a family biz called the cool easy, about CoolEasyPost.com Its a new biz online, jut launching although have been online for couple of years on other things and working with that site for over a year now. We test marketed and are now launching site.

Is there anyone who can help? What is the best way to find someone who can help me set up the template to edit info and get started.

Thank you, nicholasclaybourne@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jwnawlin (talk • contribs) 20:17, July 25, 2009


 * Well before anything else, please be mindful of what Wikipedia is not. It's definately not a place for advertising or promotion of your company. If you wish to go ahead and create your article, it must meet Wikipedia's policies. First, notability, is it worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia? Then, is it verifiable? Can you find reliable third party sources that reference your business? Also, be mindful that if it is YOUR family business then YOU writing about it would be in a conflict of interest which is no-no. Your best option would be to submit your article at articles for creation. You should also ask at the New contributors' help page for any further questions. Also read WP:Your first article. Good luck and welcome to Wikipedia. -- &oelig; &trade; 18:24, 27 July 2009 (UTC)