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December 2022
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 * @Materialscientist How did it not appear constructive? He has detransitioned. The rest of the page uses he/him pronouns. There is one isolated instance of “her”. This does not make sense. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:05, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Rename request @ File:Slayers X Terminal Aftermath Vengeance of the Slayer Cover Art.jpg
Within the requested name change, the first line and the article title, the word (according to spellcheck) "Vengance" spell check says this "Vengeance" is correct. Are all this typos ? or is this supposed to be this way? - FlightTime  ( open channel ) 22:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * It's supposed to be that way. The game has a sort of... comedic tone, and the joke is that the main character (who made a game about himself) misspelled it. I misspelled the misspelling. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:39, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * LOL, Ok I'll go move the file now. Cheers, -  FlightTime  ( open channel ) 22:44, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * Еще раз спасибо и удачного редактирования!
 * Поговори со мной! 01:26, 8 июля 202 128.0.81.114 (talk) 19:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

About Columbine and its relation to the White Genocide conspiracy theory article
The reason why Columbine was added in to the White genocide conspiracy theory article is pretty much for similar reasons to the the Oklahoma City bombing being added. For the Oklahoma City bombing, the perpetrator Timothy McVeigh did not attribute his motives to the idea that white people were being genocided but it was included because McVeigh often cited The Turner Diaries (a book that did popularize the conspiracy theory) for his deed. As for Columbine, the main perpetrator Eric Harris took inspiration from McVeigh, citing him as an inspration for the attack (it's made pretty clear in his journal entries where he talked about outdoing McVeigh's deed in bodycount and carnage). His journal entries also show his dedication to white supremacist and neo-Nazi ideology. If you've ever read The War on Everyone, it shows how Eric's idolization of McVeigh (and his desire to outdo him) and adherence to white supremacist and neo-Nazi ideology were significant influences in him carrying out the attack, even if they weren't the most direct motives. If you look at the Buffalo shooting example, that perpetrator's example plays very similarly to Eric Harris, where he wrote neo-Nazi screeds and talked about idolizing other far-right terrorists. Razzamatazz Buckshank (talk) 07:56, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Okay so a guy who was (maybe) influenced by McVeigh who was (probably) influenced by The Turner Diaries? Harris did not mention any IDEOLOGICAL affection for McVeigh. He just wanted misc carnage. McVeigh never stated that the white genocide idea inspired him at all. Is that not extremely tenuous? By that logic, can we add every single person who Harris influenced to the page (aka every school shooter for the past 20 years?) since they were inspired by Harris who liked McVeigh because he killed people and he liked a racist book? It detracts from the focus of the article.
 * The Buffalo gunman explicitly stated that the idea of white genocide is why he did the attack. Not comparable to Harris. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:16, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes he expressed neo-Nazi ideas but nothing about white genocide. Which is what the page is about. I wouldn't contest him being added to neo-Nazi influences or something. The idea is broader than the focus of the page and detracts from it. Harris throws a lot of ideas everywhere. He was very very racist but saying that was the motive for the attack isn't anywhere near the accepted scholarly opinion, and again, no one has ever said he was motivated by the white genocide idea. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:18, 29 July 2023 (UTC)


 * So should the McVeigh example be removed as he did not state that white genocide (or white nationalism really) motivated him to carry out the Oklahoma City Bombing?
 * The accepted scholarly opinion remains undermined because further evidence like the basement tapes have never been disclosed (and most likely destroyed by JeffCo at this point) so we'll never get a much clearer picture on what their motives were. Razzamatazz Buckshank (talk) 18:21, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
 * If I had the ability to completely lord over that page, I personally wouldn’t include it, as it’s tenuous, but it is confirmed that he had the book with him while driving away from the bombing, so I get the logic in including that. A bit tenuous but not egregiously so, IMO. Harris was only included through connection with him so it’s a tenuous connection on a tenuous connection
 * Yes the basement tapes are not directly available but there are available transcripts of them and summaries from people who watched them and they never state that their motive is racism, much less that they care about “white genocide”. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

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Hi! In going over the history for Seth Privacky, I came across something I wanted to ask about. Do you have any connection with @NAADAAN? I note that you have often worked on articles within a few minutes of each other (report) and seem to share some interests. If you are friends or know each other in real life, that's not a problem, of course, but it might be good to add a note to your userpage saying as much so that other editors are aware. —Ganesha811 (talk) 15:45, 23 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi, they're just a friend I've been teaching to edit. Appreciate it! NAADAAN (talk) 21:35, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know! —Ganesha811 (talk) 22:31, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * As he said, we're friends and he taught me to edit. We often edit while we're talking to each other so that's why the times are so close together. Added a note to my user page because someone else will probably point that out eventually. Thanks for starting the review :) PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:48, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

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GA team review
Hello, I came across this thread looking for something else: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive_1205#GA_reviews_and_commentary

Is that article still nominated for GA and are you still interested in team-reviewing it? If so, I would be okay to start the formal review and have you participate.

Regards, Rjjiii  (talk) 07:32, 11 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Rjjiii I would be interested in team reviewing it! However a separate issue that I pointed out on the nominator's talk page is that there's currently a coroner inquest regarding that specific event right now, so information is coming out which makes it not very stable (therefore failing a GA criterion). I consider this to be a bad time to nominate it and the nominator and another person agreed. The nomination is currently still up though, so I think it should be quickfailed maybe. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:24, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, okay, from the discussion it looks you all are waiting for the coroner's finding, and reliable sources to analyze that for citations. That makes sense. Feel free to ping me when the article is ready for a review if you are still interested then. I don't know if a quickfail is needed because it sounds like the nominator may withdraw the nom on their own. Thanks for the explanation, Rjjiii  (talk) 20:09, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

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Swissair Flight 330
Re your removal of the philately project assessment: you are probably not aware there is more to philately then just stamp collecting. The Philately Wikiproject covers all aspects of the mail and postal services, so as this was a mail carrying flight it is of interest as are all mail carrying crashes. A specialised area of airmail philately. Check out Crash cover and http://wreckandcrash.org. ww2censor (talk) 14:30, 17 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ww2censor Ah, sorry. I read the scope but didn't realize that was included within it. My bad! PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:49, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Curiously and timely this TedTalk video was just released and you might find it interesting to watch. Cheers and season's greetings. ww2censor (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

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Quick question about file importance scales
Hello! I noticed that in this edit, you removed the importance scale (low) from both the WP Weather and WP Carribean as it was a "duplicate". Could you explain some on why that created a duplicate, because I'm a little confused on that? The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:13, 24 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @WeatherWriter It's a file, so it shouldn't have "importance". That's only for articles. The file namespace automatically classes as NA (non-article) importance. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:16, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * The duplicate was the fact that there were two WP Caribbean banners, one with the subproject and one without. I did two things at once. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:17, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah that makes sense. Thanks for responding! The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 00:25, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

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 * cat............................................. :33 PARAKANYAA (talk) 16:57, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

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Empire of Kitara
Hi, you made a mistake regarding the deletion of the Empire of Kitara page, in academia it is called the Chwezi Empire, and I suggest the page should be renamed to this. See my request for undeletion (I can't find it), I've included some sources. Alexanderkowal (talk) 19:21, 18 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Alexanderkowal I commented on the undeletion request. I don't oppose but if it's restored I would appreciate if you did some work on it because the article was a disaster. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:32, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * yeah I'll have a look at it, it's difficult as oral history is only beginning to receive credibility in western academia. I imagine it was quite grandiose? I think probably have a section on legend/history and then another on historical records or archaeology to support it Alexanderkowal (talk) 19:41, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
 * @Alexanderkowal It wasn't grandiose as much as it was very mixed together with a bunch of other things (like the Bunyoro and a Kitara language) and fact was mixed with legend - there was a grain of something notable there and I did want to fix it but it proved difficult. I think renaming it Chwezi dynasty or empire would solve a lot of those issues PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:45, 18 February 2024 (UTC)

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Untitled
Hello, you have solved the problem that you mentioned for this Ahmad Bayati Wikipedia, please check it again and confirm, thank you Danialzahedi (talk) 19:49, 20 February 2024 (UTC)


 * @Danialzahedi Not about that, it's more that as this is an article about a living person, it especially needs to have inline citations on statements that could be challenged. Few of the citations are supporting the content. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:53, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

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Untitled
My apologies on the revert to the article "Murder of Sharron Prior". I left my computer open and my grandson must have tapped on the keys. Had no intention to edit this article. was just reading it and its updates. My bad. Avignonesi (talk) 13:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
 * It's fine. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:29, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Duane Deaver article
Hi -- I noticed you declined my updated version of an article on P. Duane Deaver. Thanks for the review and feedback. I'm very cognizant of the risk of this seeming to be an attack page, believe me. To me it's in line with pages on Fred Zain, Joyce Gilchrist, Annie Dookhan or Louis Scarcella. I'm very happy to talk about ways to present this information, but I don't know that I agree that my presentation is more negative than the sources. I tried to be very fact-based and journalistic. I think the tone is appropriately formal, but I'm happy to get feedback on sections you feel don't meet that standard. Can you point me to particular statements that are more negative than what the sources say? Not trying to play gotcha or get into a back and forth for it's own sake, I'm genuinely curious. How would you recommend I improve the article? Deaver is very well known in North Carolina and national law enforcement circles, and press coverage, on which I've drawn heavily, I think follows the lines I've laid out. How can I make progress here? Thanks for your thoughts. Slane00 (talk) 22:33, 11 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @Slane00 I'll go through it on the talk page of the article. There were also problems with the organizational structure. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:35, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

Spree killer category mergers
I should inform you of my position on your changes to the articles’ organizations. I’ll be frank, it’s a mistake. Yes, the finer details of the definitions need experienced responsibility to the organize the categories so they’re not open to interpretation. But spree killers are different from mass murderers! They carry on sprees extending across wider yet interconnected areas and timelines and have a pacing that vitally shows how they’re defined. Mass murderers don’t do that. They’re considered defined by whatever collective yet isolated attack is pulled off with how they rampage in a more immediate setting. Mass murderers successfully cause destructive violence that kills, all in one place. Spree killers don’t, but they can still rampage across multiple locations WITHOUT killing more people. That’s why the general category is "RAMPAGE killers". Both types kill by rampages, but the rampages are different. Spree killers go for multiple locations, mass murderers go for one or a few. If the distinction isn’t kept, it’s not educating for criminal scientific purposes, and in the end, the users have a tougher time finding articles and categories, let alone would start arguing over the important and semantic details. If you’d like to reply to me, please @ my username here or reply on my message wall. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 04:36, 20 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @ContributingHelperOnTheSide That is not supported by sources, though. They're basically used as synonyms. The days where they had discrete definitions was decades ago, and even back then it was confused. There is no one thing that makes a mass killer or spree killer vice versa, and when it's *this* confusing what is gained when no one understands the difference? And is there proof of a difference?
 * For the purposes of argument, what is the thing that distinguishes them? And do you have sources to back that up? The sources I found before starting the CfD all gave them as basically the same difference with different connotations. And *a few*? How many is more than a few? If there is a difference, it's so marginal as to be useless to categorize by, when categories on Wikipedia should be consistent.
 * Rampage killers is not considered a "general" category from anything I've seen, it's basically just a synonym for spree killer that's used some time. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * I’ll try to compare and contrast as best I can. I don’t have sources on and to prove my arguments, but here are the agreed conditions I know about both types of murder:
 * Spree murder: a killer murders at least two people in a rampage over multiple locations. It doesn’t have to only be a killing spree, but even a spree with multiple crimes counts so long as at least two people die from it. A spree killer doesn’t have breaks because they don’t try to return to a normal life or doing anything even close to living so they’re not committing any crimes in the moment. They can be hiding out and preparing for their next crime, or hiding out and at risk of committing another crime on reaction, but they’re not “taking a break” from the spree when the spree’s not over.
 * Mass murderer: a killer violently attacks at a location with multiple people, and at least four people die. The violence is concentrating to a small or general area where there are multiple people gathered, typically a small or large crowd. If all the intended people targeted are in a larger area instead of a smaller area, it is difficult to distinguish of they’re a spree killer or a mass murderer, so the general “rampage killer” applies for lack of a better distinction. Mass murderers can be guilty of more than one mass murderer. For example, they commit a massacre in one location, move to another one, and commit a massacre there too, each one taking the lives of at least for people. Or they could be guilty of one mass murder, be arrested or even not caught for it, take a break from crime, but then they commit another mass murder well after when their break is done.
 * I hope my explanation is detailed, sensible, and fitting to you. I can find as many resources for criminal sciences you need that likely back up the definitions I told you. We can otherwise discuss this further. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 04:50, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @ContributingHelperOnTheSide If you don't have sources, then the categorization is WP:OR. I recall that some sources have defined these sources in ways similar to that - but more don't! The most common definition of mass murder is 3 people dying in one incident, for instance. The general "rampage killer" term is quite obscure compared to either other term. I've seen many definitions of mass murder, especially more recent ones, that do not say a "mass murder" has to be only in one location, only "usually", and definitions of "spree killer" that say it may be "usually" in multiple locations. Very few people who are technically spree killers (ex. Brenton Tarrant), are called that anymore, and are usually referred to as mass murderers. Also, even if there was a difference that separated them, the overlap is so high that categorization is pointless anyway. PARAKANYAA (talk) 04:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Acknowledged. Yes, the differentiation is tough. I can see there would be arguments to take the actions you have for the site. I was informing you, as I study such subjects, that’s the definition I’ve seen most often described as most accurate and found great benefit from the categories, hoping to offer my assistance in correcting the problems aforementioned. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 05:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
 * @ContributingHelperOnTheSide I study this topic too. On a personal level, apart from the sourcing, I have never found it to be an especially helpful difference. The thing about categories on Wikipedia is that they are not supposed to be subjective. When a killer is primarily described as a "spree killer", that's fine to use in the article and stuff, but for categorizations it should be consistent. There is no one way to determine who is and is not a spree killer vs a mass murderer, most of the definitions are either contradictory or overlapping. PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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The article 2017 Aztec High School shooting you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2017 Aztec High School shooting and Talk:2017 Aztec High School shooting/GA1 for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of PCN02WPS -- PCN02WPS (talk) 02:20, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

AfC review
Hi - recognized your name on the list of AfC reviewers and thought I'd drop you a request. Is there any chance we could get a speedy review at Draft:2024 NCAA Division I women's basketball championship game? It's about to tip off and still in draftspace; I'd like to have it published while the game is actually going on. If there's anything standing in the way, let me know so I can improve it. Thank you! PCN02WPS ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 19:04, 7 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @PCN02WPS I'm not too familiar with standards for sports championships but given the 2023 one is a GA (a good, recent standard) and the content seems good, I don't think there will be an issue with accepting it (hopefully). PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:43, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, actually there seems to be a redirect standing in the way. PARAKANYAA (talk) 19:44, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you know who I could ask about taking care of that? I'd like to get a DYK on this up by tonight if possible. PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 20:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * @PCN02WPS I had to contact a page mover. It is now in mainspace. PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:56, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you! That is very much appreciated. PCN02WPS  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 22:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 2017 Aztec High School shooting
The article 2017 Aztec High School shooting you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2017 Aztec High School shooting for comments about the article, and Talk:2017 Aztec High School shooting/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of PCN02WPS -- PCN02WPS (talk) 19:21, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Are you Paqarack?
If you are can you message me on Reddit or Discord? u/Hazel2AW on Reddit or hazel2aw on Discord. TheCloggle222 (talk) 22:29, 8 April 2024 (UTC)


 * @TheCloggle222 I have a Reddit account (well, I’m more or less everywhere) but I’m afraid I’m not the person you think I am. PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:37, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah okay, thank you anyway, you make great contributions man 🙂 TheCloggle222 (talk) 22:40, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
 * 👍 good luck with finding that person PARAKANYAA (talk) 22:45, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

Why do outlines exist? What are outlines for?
Hi.

Thank you for defending the Outline of the Book of Mormon at its AfD.

No, I'm not religious, but, I do care about outlines.

You mentioned in that discussion that you didn't know why outlines exist. There are 2 types of answers to that issue. The first is political: outlines exist because the opposition has not been able to overcome the support for outlines. The same goes for categories.

The second is practical: outlines exist for the same reasons that categories do: to facilitate topic navigation, and to provide a way to visualize the structure of a subject. They both exist because a search engine isn't always enough: it can't show you what subjects there are so that you can choose what to explore. In contrast, categories and outlines serve as site maps or subject menus and let you see what's there – meanwhile, search starts out as a blank screen and can't show you topics that you don't already know exist. Categories and outlines can. They also overcome the "tip of the tongue" phenomenon, when you can't think of the name of the topic that you want to type into the search box.

But, why do we have outlines in addition to categories? (That's duplication of effort!)

For the bennies, man. Outlines have support because of the benefits they provide that categories cannot...
 * 1) An outline is a gathering of links on a topic onto one page, while a category splits its topic into many pages. The idea is to get all the links on a particular topic in one place for convenience.
 * 2) An outline trades in clicks for scrolling. To browse an outline, you scroll down the page, rather than click over and over again to drill down to subcategories in a category. It's much harder to browse an entire category due to all the backtracking required. Scrolling down a page is much faster.
 * 3) Outlines don't suffer from multiple page load delays like browsing a category does. Each time you click on a subcategory in a category a new page has to be downloaded by your browswer. On slower Internet connections, this can get really time consuming.
 * 4) While categories help to present a subject's structure, they typically only show 2 levels of its topic tree on the screen at a time, while outlines may have the whole tree on a single page. Outlines are better at providing a bird's eye view of an entire subject.
 * 5) Outlines allow descriptions for topics to be included. Categories can't; you have to fiddle with the cursor and hover it over topics to get pop ups, each of which may incur a download delay.
 * 6) Outlines are articles, and so they show up in search results. Categories generally don't because their critical content is not actually there (it's split up into little chunks and is at the bottom of other pages).
 * 7) Outlines provide edit tracking like regular articles. Categories are decentralized (their data exists at the bottom of many articles), and so there is no history feature to show you when something has been removed from a category – topics just disappear without a trace from categories.

More benefits and explanations are included at Outlines and WikiProject Outlines.

The Wikipedia community and the Wikimedia Foundation have so far been unable to design a navigation system that combines the benefits of outlines and categories. The technology just isn't here yet. Until then, we have both categories and outlines.

I hope this explanation helped.

Sincerely,  &mdash; The Transhumanist   10:56, 24 April 2024 (UTC)


 * Noted. PARAKANYAA (talk) 00:05, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

DYK for 2017 Aztec High School shooting
Wagger</b><b  style="color:#728">s</b><small  style="color:#080">TALK  00:03, 8 May 2024 (UTC) GalliumBot (talk • contribs) (he/it) 03:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: IGI Global (June 2)
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Rejection of Draft:Morphitis v Salmon
Hello, I noticed that you have rejected a draft article on the English criminal law case of Morphitis v Salmon (1989) on the basis that it does not cite enough secondary sources.

Articles on legal cases and judgments are sometimes one of the exceptions to the guidelines on secondary sources as the primary sources are unbiased and the only secondary sources referring to judicial decisions tend to be law textbooks.

There will of course be mentions of the case in textbooks and articles, but they are likely to be completely inaccessible to the average user, and will only recount the facts as they were stated in the judgment, which brings the usefulness of citing them over the judgment itself into question.

Generally the secondary source rule is intended to prevent persons, governments, or corporations from biased reporting on themselves. When citing a legal judgment there is no such issue.

I invite you to reconsider your rejection. 144.124.225.21 (talk) 09:29, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * I didn't reject it, I declined it. It can be submitted and approved if it's improved. I don't think there's an exception on Wikipedia for that kind of coverage when I asked. I could be wrong. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:04, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

bold code
Happy Solstice! You may (or may not) want to bold your 'Keep' at that Gandhi book RfD so the closer makes sure to note it. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:49, 20 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Randy Kryn Noted! Thank you. PARAKANYAA (talk) 11:51, 20 June 2024 (UTC)

Message from Belko05
Hi PARAKANYAA, it's me the guy who made the edit on the article 1979 San Antonio Parade Shooting. I just want to let you know that I put find a grave as a source because it had an actual picture of the gravestone, showing that Attebury is actually spelled Attebery, and that he was born in 1914, and died in the shooting two days before his 65th birthday. I was just listing something that was technically true. If you don't change it, that's fine. Belko05 (talk) 15:10, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @Belko05 Someone’s tombstone is, as strange as it may sound, not always a reliable source. In a different article I worked on on a different mass shooter, they misspelled his first name on his tombstone. From personal experience my great grandparent’s names are also misspelled on their tombstones. Sometimes they are wrong. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:25, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * Do you want to see a picture of the tombstone if you're curious? Belko05 (talk) 19:03, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
 * @Belko05 I have seen the tombstone. Tombstones can be wrong. PARAKANYAA (talk) 21:18, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

Lead sections on diff devices
In response to your recent edit on Blown for Good which split the lead paragraph into 2 paragraphs, I thought I should let you know (just in case you didn't already know) that though splitting a lead paragraph might look good in regular logged-in Wikipedia, but on a cell phone device, the first paragraph appears, followed by the infobox, followed by the rest of the lead section. Since about half of all readers use mobile devices or cell phones, you might want to keep that in mind. You might think that split is okay, but go ahead and view it on a cell phone and see what others see. It might not be the result you wanted when you made a paragraph break. I know, it's odd. And I found out about this oddity a while back. Just letting you know about it. Also, my search engine will display only the first paragraph of the lead when it profiles a Wikipedia page as a result for an internet search. ▶ I am Grorp ◀ 02:17, 19 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @Grorp I'm aware it does that but I don't really think that's an issue? Any article with more than one paragraph in its lead has that happen. The paragraph is too long IMO, but the content is warranted, and splitting it makes it make more sense topic-division wise PARAKANYAA (talk) 02:22, 19 July 2024 (UTC)