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re: Strindberg Peer Review
Hello, Phaeton, I'm glad you're still working on Strindberg; it looks like things are moving in the right direction! :) A couple reminders: the lead still needs to be expanded per WP:LEAD, and although more citations have been added, the referencing is skimpy, to say the least.  Most problematically, perhaps, is that several of the books used so far (Nolin and Adams, for example) do not include specific page numbers, which are necessary in order to prove verifiability.  Take a look at similar articles of high quality, like Noël Coward, to see how they use citations.  And/or, as I stated in the Peer Review, take a look at the books listed under "Sources"; this article should have dozens of citations, preferably to reliable, published works.  I hope this helps, María ( habla  con migo ) 22:18, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Mel Atkey
Some time ago, you created a Wiki page about me, which I discovered yesterday. I'm highly flattered. I attempted to make some revisions to the page, and it seems this caused it to be deleted. I don't tink I can do anything to reinstate the page, but if you want to, I believe you can. This is how I revised it:

Mel Atkey

Mel Atkey (born 1958) is a Canadian born, English emigrated musical theatre composer and lyricist.

He was born to his father Ken, a painter, and his mother Marion (nee Holmes), a teacher and grew up in Ladner, B.C., where he attended Delta Secondary School. He would go on to attend Langara College.

He has held an assorted amount of positions, starting with being a concert producer for a telethon featuring Tom Northcott, a theatre critic, director of Cabaret and Musical Theater Alliance til 1991, Guild of Canadian Musical Theater Writers, and past member of BMI Lehman Engel Musical Theater Workshop in Toronto.

He has memberships in the Writers' Union of Canada and Mercury Musical Developments.

Mel Atkey has been writing musicals ever since he was in high school in his native Vancouver. He was a finalist for the Musical of the Year competition in Aarhus, Denmark, and his work has been short-listed for the Vivian Ellis Prize, the Quest for New Musicals, the Ken Hill Prize and Musical Stairs. His first musical, Shikara, was produced on radio in Canada. A single was released by singer Janice Jaud of one of the songs, "Far Away", and received airplay across Canada and the U.S. Mel Atkey spent two years as a theatre critic in Vancouver before moving to Toronto to pursue his career as a musical theatre writer. He was commissioned to write songs for CBC Radio, and was a member of the Guild of Canadian Musical Theatre Writers' Lehman Engel Workshop. He was a director of the Cabaret and Musical Theatre Alliance until he moved to London in 1991. He made his New York debut in April 2001 with an off-off-Broadway showcase of O Pioneers! with book by Robert Sickinger. This show was then a finalist for “Stages 2002” at the New Tuners theatre in Chicago. Their second musical, A Little Princess was presented at Wings Theatre in New York in 2003, and his two character musical Perfect Timing, for which he wrote the book as well as music and lyrics, was recently showcased to great acclaim as part of Greenwich Theatre (London)’s Musical Futures series. He wrote the opening number for Janie Dee’s recent critically acclaimed one-woman show. His book When We Both Got to Heaven tells the story of his ancestor James Atkey, who came to Georgian Bay from the Isle of Wight in 1854 as a teacher to the Ojibwa. It was published by Natural Heritage Books, Toronto, in October 2002. A second book, Broadway North: The Dream of a Canadian Musical Theatre was published by Natural Heritage in 2006.

[edit] Works O Pioneers! (2001), musical with music and lyrics by Atkey and a book by Robert Sickinger When We Both Got to Heaven: James Atkey among the Anishnabek at Colpoy's Bay (2002) book A Little Princess (2003), musical with music and lyrics by Atkey and a book by Robert Sickinger Broadway North: The Dream of a Canadian Musical Theater (2006) book His other musicals include Shikara, broadcast on the radio, and Perfect Timing (showcased at Greenwich Theatre, London, 2005). He has written songs for CBC Radio and for Janie Dee.

[edit] References Bibliography Contemporary Authors Online, Detroit: Gale, 2006, ISBN 978-0-7876-3995-2 Broadway North: The Dream of a Canadian Musical Theatre, Toronto: Natural Heritage Books, 2006, ISBN 978-1-8970-4508-4 [edit] External links Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Mel Atkey

www.melatkey.com You may contact me by email at melatkey@hotmail.com Melatkey (talk) 22:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Some time ago, you created a Wiki page about me, which I discovered yesterday. I'm highly flattered. I attempted to make some revisions to the page, and it seems this caused it to be deleted. I don't tink I can do anything to reinstate the page, but if you want to, I believe you can. You may contact me by email at melatkey@hotmail.com. If you go to my webpage www.melatkey.com it may give you some ideas as to how to address the "notability" issue.

Mel Atkey Melatkey (talk) 01:01, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Mel Atkey
Hello Phaeton23 Thank-you for posting this page about me. Just to let you know, there is a photo available at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mel_Atkey.jpg. A couple of corrections: I don't actually play the piano. In fact, I don't play any musical instrument, but I can read and write music. In case there is any further criticism re: notability, you might want to cite some of the reviews from my website of Broadway North and A Little Princess. To be honest, I'm currently better known as an author than as a songwriter. Also, membership in Mercury implies a certain professional standing, although the Wiki administrators may not understand that. Again, thank-you. Melatkey (talk) 22:41, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry, the information I found was incorrect. Correct anything that is wrong, because, ofcourse, who knows better than you?Phaeton23 (talk) 04:14, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * As I think we discovered, if I try to edit a page about myself, it risks the ire of the administrators. Melatkey (talk) 11:11, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The information I found about your parents was on Contemporary Authors Online, I apologize if it was incorrect. Phaeton23 (talk) 06:12, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No the info was correct, I just didn't remember giving it to Contemporary Authors.(I've since confirmed that I did, though.) Let's hope nobody deletes it this time.Melatkey (talk) 09:55, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi, guys. I did some clean-up on this article, but it desperately needs references. If your shows received newspaper reviews, cite the reviews, giving the name of the author, publication, publisher, date and page number. Also, the text it too similar to Mr. Atkey's website. Either put a note on the website that you license the text under creative commons (or release it to the public domain), or, rewrite the article here so that there is no quoting of the language from the website. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)


 * There is some updated information for my page, if you are interested. My follow-up book to "Broadway North", "A Million Miles from Broadway: Musical Theatre Beyond New York and London" was published this week by Friendlysong Books.  The ISBN is 978-0-9916957-0-6. Melatkey (talk) 10:42, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

Edit summaries
Hi, Thanks for your useful edits to Tom Stoppard. Edit summaries really help. Cheers. Span (talk) 02:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * You have a message on my page. Span (talk) 21:37, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Sondheim peer review
I'll get to the page today or tomorrow at the latest. Tim riley (talk) 06:09, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I owe you two apologies. First for not getting back to the PR in time before it was closed, and secondly for talking rubbish about the use of an image. I had, to my shame, forgotten that Mr Sondheim is still with us, and so Fair Use doesn't apply on the (slightly specious) grounds that one could in theory go and take one's own picture of him. Forgive me for misleading you. If there is anything I can do to help you with the article where it now stands, I shall be pleased and honoured. Tim riley (talk) 14:33, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Orpheum Theatre (New Bedford, Massachusetts)
I just wanted to let you know that I took a look at your recently created article Orpheum Theatre (New Bedford, Massachusetts)-- Amy Z (talk) 20:56, 13 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I really enjoyed the article; I love theater myself. I went looking for more pictures, and was disappointed that the theater's website didn't have a photo gallery I could access.  Also, I think your link to it may be broken.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amyxz (talk • contribs) 20:43, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Sondheim
A few things occur to me from a quick reading. First, there are places where the article goes into pointless detail. For instance in "Early Broadway success" we don't need to know that Sondheim arrived before his host or that he did not know anybody. We need to know that he met Laurents, who told him that he needed a lyricist to work with Bernstein on a musicalization of Romeo & Juliet. Even the information that this was at a party or that Comden and Green were unavailable is not strictly necessary, though it adds flavour if used in moderation. The same paragraph also illustrates another problem with the text: the use of colloquial contractions –"couldn't participate" … "wasn't a big fan". Fine in quoted speech but not in the main prose. Punctuation needs tightening up throughout: "Sondheim—Prince" (em dash), "16-performance" (hyphen), "community – if you can" (spaced en-dash), and while I'm on punctuation, there is no such play as Romeo & Juliet.

There are far too many statements that lack citations: the "Work away from Broadway" section is the worst example, but there are uncited statements throughout the article.

My advice is to ask the Guild of Copy Editors to tackle the article, and then to open a formal second peer review, inviting contributions from editors who have taken other Broadway-focused articles to FA. (You can find the articles listed here and find the main contributors from the article history pages.) Happy to enlarge on any of this, if wanted.  Tim riley  talk   09:29, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I've looked at it too. It is good, but it needs work.  I think more needs to be narrative, and less quotes.  Some of the sections just mention isolated incidents, and I'm afraid what Sondheim actually did is getting lost in the shuffle.  For example, in addition to mentoring Sondheim, Hammerstein saw to it that Sondheim got practical experience of the theatre, he was a gofer on Allegro.  I think a good copyedit will help, and perhaps the insertion or substitution of more narrative material.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:37, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

Cut songs
Hi. If you want to list cut songs from musicals, you need to cite a WP:Reliable source that shows all the information that you are claiming, and you need to include all the bibliographic information for the cite: Author name, title of publication, url, date of publication, publisher, page number. See WP:CITE for more information. If a cut song was never performed after the show opened, then generally, it is not of encyclopedic interest. All the best, -- Ssilvers (talk) 23:33, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I apologize. I made all the edits from my phone, with the intent of getting the sources when I'm on my computer. Trying to copy and paste links while minimizing tabs constantly is a burden from mobile. However, I believe any cut song from a Broadway musical is of note, since it's a Broadway show, it falls under the WP Notability guideline. I see that you are a G&S fan, wouldn't you want to know if there was a cut song from HMS Pinafore or Pirates of Penzance? I think it's a look into the creative process of what the writers were thinking, or how the audiences were reacting, and it helped congeal the show to its finished form. Phaeton23 (talk) 02:40, 17 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the reply. I really suggest that you do not edit from your mobile if you cannot add the citations from there.  When you add information to this encyclopedia, please always add a WP:Reliable source, including all of the available bibliographic information, including the author name, title of publication, url, date of publication, publisher, page number.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:22, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Raymond Abbott
Hey, did you get the info that Raymond Abbott went to the University of Kentucky from the source: "Raymond H(erbert) Abbott." Contemporary Authors Online. Detroit: Gale, 2001. Literature Resource Center. Web. 12 Feb. 2010? I'm working on the List of University of Kentucky alumni and wanted to add and source him. Thanks! - Amatheur (talk) 22:57, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Spamlinks
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Kleban Prize moved to draftspace
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 * , let me know if I can help. I did start the New Dramatists article. = paul2520 (talk) 15:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Eugene De Rosa
I have only just noticed all your additions to Eugene De Rosa. Many thanks! Moonraker (talk) 22:00, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

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I can make a table, see what you think. Thanks for the help and reaching out. Much appreciated. Phaeton23 (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2019 (UTC)

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