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The Bugle: Issue CXVII, December 2015
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Holiday abroad
Hi Andy, not sure why you redirected Template:Holiday abroad when the TfD was closed as no consensus. Or was there another TfD I was not made aware of? I will assume you weren't deliberately implementing your proposed changes because they failed to reach consensus. A courtesy notice would also have been appreciated. No bad faith assumed, rest assured. I do thank you for your efforts to keep the template namespace tidy, but please do bring this one back to TfD if you still feel a redirect is necessary. Hope you are well, and happy holidays :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  05:57, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #190
Wikidata weekly summary #186

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.  Read the full report &middot; Unsubscribe &middot; Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 14:07, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Ongoing: 32C3
 * Upcoming: Wikimedia Developer Summit
 * Upcoming: StrepHit IEG project kick-off seminar
 * Upcoming: Office hour on IRC
 * Upcoming: FOSDEM (Lucie will give a talk about the ArticlePlaceholder extension)
 * Registration and scholarship applications for the Wikimedia Hackathon in Israel are open
 * Don't forget your talk submissions for Wikimania 2016. Lydia can help if needed.
 * Getting CAS registry numbers out of WikiData
 * The quality of SMILES strings in Wikidata
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Paper: Wikidata: A platform for data integration and dissemination for the life sciences and beyond
 * The Wikidata for Research proposal has now been published in a journal
 * [//tools.wmflabs.org/pltools/addlingue/ New tool to turn string claims to monolingual claims]
 * Johl built a card game about German politicians using Wikidata
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: number of awards, Prosopographia Attica, Structurae person ID, stage classification, sports disciplines competed in, personal best, substrate of
 * Development
 * Some small bugfixes and tweaks.
 * Enjoying the holidays and editing on Wikidata. Hope you are too :)
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Template:Bannedmeansbanned
Hello Andy You took part in the TfD on this a while ago; I have opened a discussion here if you wish to comment. Regards, Xyl 54 (talk) 00:20, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

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2016 year of the reader and peace
Thank you, Andy, for inspiration and support, with my review, the peace bell by Yunshui, and best wishes! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:25, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Infobox military person
Hi Andy, I just started a discussion regarding the parameters for honorifics. Since you initially introduced them to the template I thought this would interest you. De728631 (talk) 20:27, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:39, 11 January 2016 (UTC)


 * For a single link it there is little difference between the "|orcid|000..." and "|orcid=000..." forms. But I can see a likely advantage in having a variable number of arguments in the form of " ": less typing overall, and more efficient implementation. But I don't see any point in havng a "|name=" parameter. What would it do?


 * A stand-alone implementation could work in all cases. Implementation in cs1/2 needs more consideration. One straight-forward approach (likely requiring no or no modification of cs) is to use {idlink} directly. E.g.  . Alternately, we could have a class of lastN-id parms, similar to the author-links. These could be either open, taking the idlink template as before (and perhaps other stuff to put in right after the author's name), or dedicated, taking just the arguments and generating the link the directly. In the latter case we might have something like orcid-000.. scopus-111... However, having separate classes of idlink parameters (lastN-orcid, lastN-scopus, lastN-resid, etc.) seems way too heavy, excessively complicating the cs code. ~ J. Johnson (JJ) (talk) 22:02, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Monkey selfie
Hi. I've started a discussion on the article's talk page, so we can talk about the matter. I don't know if you've notice already or not, but either way, can you participate? Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 00:25, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Category:Organisations using QRpedia
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RfC announce: Religion in infoboxes
There is an RfC at Template talk:Infobox concerning what should be allowed in the religion entry in infoboxes. Please join the discussion and help us to arrive at a consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 22:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #192
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 * Events/Blogs/Press
 * Wikipedia turned 15. Happy birthday, big sister!
 * Fifteen years ago, Wikipedia was a very different place: Magnus Manske
 * Wikipedia just turned 15 years old. Will it survive 15 more?
 * Slides for talk by Lucie and Adam at the birthday party in NYC
 * Doing research on Wikidata? Consider submitting to OpenSym.
 * Past: ODI summit (video of talk "Making every human gene accessible and linkable" by Andra Waagmeester)
 * Past: StrepHit IEG kick-off (video, slides)
 * Upcoming: ORCID outreach meeting
 * Other Noteworthy Stuff
 * Module:Cycling race generates a list of stages and winners for cycling races
 * Great use of the Listeria bot to create an artwork gallery
 * Wikidata-lang - library to get language code from a Wikidata item for a language
 * Live-stream of Wikidata edits by Magnus
 * Wikipedia tools for Google Spreadsheet now has a Wikidata function
 * Yair rand wrote a user script to experiment with how changes are shown in recent changes and watchlist
 * Did you know?
 * Newest properties: Theatricalia person ID, Theatricalia theatre ID, Global Geoparks Network ID, judicial sentence, allcinema film identifier
 * Development
 * Students worked on new datatype to capture mathematical expressions (T67397)
 * Updated property suggester data to give you more up-to-date suggestions when adding new statements
 * Pages in the module namespace now also get interwiki links (T123234)
 * Reduced number of resource loader modules to improve performance (T123233)
 * Started experimenting with showing an image in the header area (T119493)
 * Fixed a bug where the query text would be moved off the screen on the query service website (T120196)
 * Worked on the remaining blocker for taking the in other projects sidebar out of beta. We need to link to the Commons category and not gallery for articles without frying the servers (T94989)
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Tech News: 2016-03
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Thank you very much!
...for the linked article you put up on the David Bowie talk page, Religion and spirituality section. You made my day! All the very best to you! Boscaswell (talk) 19:35, 16 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I would very much appreciate any view you would like to add, Andy Mabbett, to the debate which is going on on the David Bowie talk page, Religion and spirituality section. I competely revamped the section yesterday, as previously it was truly awful, but mentioning Bowie and spirituality in the same breath has I believe got some people upset.  I was able to use a few quotes from the interview which you highlighted - thanks again!  Anyway, a few hatchets were taken to my revamp, almost immediately.  Today I made some minor changes, but edit war has broken out.  Thank you. Boscaswell (talk) 21:56, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

WikiProject X Newsletter • Issue 6
Newsletter • January 2016

Hello there! Happy to be writing this newsletter once more. This month:

What comes next

Some good news: the Wikimedia Foundation has renewed WikiProject X. This means we can continue focusing on making WikiProjects better.

During our first round of work, we created a prototype WikiProject based on two ideas: (1) WikiProjects should clearly present things for people to do, and (2) The content of WikiProjects should be automated as much as possible. We launched pilots, and for the most part it works. But this approach will not work for the long term. While it makes certain aspects of running a WikiProject easier, it makes the maintenance aspects harder.

We are working on a major overhaul that will address these issues. New features will include:
 * Creating WikiProjects by simply filling out a form, choosing which reports you want to generate for your project. This will work with existing bots in addition to the Reports Bot reports. (Of course, you can also have sections curated by humans.)
 * One-click button to join a WikiProject, with optional notifications.
 * Be able to define your WikiProject's scope within the WikiProject itself by listing relevant pages and categories, eliminating the need to tag every talk page with a banner. (You will still be allowed to do that, of course. It just won't be required.)

The end goal is a collaboration tool that can be used by WikiProjects but also by any edit-a-thon or group of people that want to coordinate on improving articles. Though implemented as an extension, the underlying content will be wikitext, meaning that you can continue to use categories, templates, and other features as you normally would.

This will take a lot of work, and we are just getting started. What would you like to see? I invite you to discuss on our talk page.

Until next time,

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Good news!
Enjoy Down Under. Guy (Help!) 13:50, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2016-04
 Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes
 * You can now follow when pages are added or removed from a category on German Wikipedia. The plan is to add it to Wikimedia Commons and other Wikipedias this week.
 * Administrators can hide individual entries of a page with RevisionDelete. There is now a button to choose "all", "none" or "inverse" in Special:Log. The article history will get the same buttons soon. Wikis that have done this locally with JavaScript will be able to remove that code.

Changes this week
 * You will be able to see the references when you preview a section you are editing. This will happen even if there is no   and   . But I disagree on adding etymology as it doesn't belong in an infobox and against H:IB.


 * Since there will be a bot sweep over articles using this template, it is a very good window for us to tidy-up and stylize the parameters simultaneously, even if the change is trivial. If you look closer at the template skeleton listed on the sandbox-doc page, changes like  →   and   →   makes the overall skeleton look much neater thanks to the ordered prefix.


 * Things like river_name, mouth, and other_name, are not removed as such, but instead will be replaced. This is pending a bot scan to see how exactly to go about with it.


 * Similar cleanups were done at Infobox power station and Infobox dam, and the results are quite good. The number of articles using these infoboxes will only increase over time, to an extent where any neatness/cosmetic changes will only be instantly rejected due to the number of articles effected. Hence this is a great oppurtunity to neaten things up... If you compare the current doc page, and the doc at the sandbox, I am sure you would agree that we need to clean/simpify things there. And once this is done, we can then focus on making the Infobox River the primary infobox for river articles (as it should have been), and discontinue the geobox... Reh  man  03:37, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * There is nothing against the use of etymology in either MoS or H:IB; it is there now, so I'm not asking for it to be "added"; please don't remove it unless there is consensus to do so. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 09:35, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Just FYI, HIB states that an infobox should not contain "Long bodies of text, or very detailed statistics, belong in the article body". Since the content intended for that field cannot be entered in a couple of characters/words, it does not belong in an 'infobox'. Reh  man  10:35, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Thank you, I know what H:IB says; but your assumption that "the content intended for that field cannot be entered in a couple of characters/words" is false. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:11, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
 * Maybe; only because all of the examples I came across had at least two sentences in them... Lets discuss about this later, once the cleanup part is complete. No hard feelings. Regards, Reh  man  12:18, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Andy. Based on this test,  doesn't seems to do anything (probably since it was added). Am I missing something? The test is using the current (unaltered) infobox. Reh man  13:08, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
 * It's doing exactly what it is supposed to. I suggest you examine the page's HTML source. Andy Mabbett ( Pigsonthewing ); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 15:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

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can you buy me a beer? NMcClboro (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Can I buy you a beer. Rainegold (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello
Andy, what a lovely beard you have! 23rdphilli (talk) 14:58, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello
Thanks for the informative session. Nfdo2016 (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello
I'm guessing that you are not a fan of Macs, either? Richard Li Ion Heart (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, thanks for the course today. Pete Armstrong (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Andy, good stuff today! JAtkin16 (talk) 14:57, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

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