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Recent Sonic edits
Hi there, re: this edit at Sonic Underground, please note that we shouldn't be using flags in the infobox per WP:INFOBOXFLAG. Also, you used the wrong end date template. Just an FYI. Thanks, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi again, while you were kind enough to provide an explanation in this reversion, you still haven't engaged in discussion on the matter, and in your most recent phrasing, I don't see the value in pointing out that an artistic work received both positive and negative reviews. That can be said about any work. Also, you misspelled negative. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

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Common era
I suggest that, if you consider a major change should be made to an article as you did to Common Era, you propose it first at the talk page. I agree personally with much of what you did but I suspect that the likely outcome is that it will all be reverted as too major a change to make without discussion. I suggest that you make section by section proposals, introducing them one discussion at a time. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:48, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
 * I felt the paragraph was one-sided and unnecessary as there was already a "Rationale" section at the bottom of the page.--Proud User (talk) 22:20, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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Pastafarianism
How is my edit and your revert based on 'NPOV'? All I did was move the explanation for the name from the lead sentence -- where it makes the sentence hard to read -- to the second sentence which is shorter and easier to read. Darx9url (talk) 01:09, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * When it states that adherents see it as a genuine religion, adding that the name is a combination of pasta and Rastafarianism in that particular spot of the article makes it sound like you are trying to argue with it being, to some, a genuine religion. The name orgin should be explianed when it first introduces the name, to make it align with the style of other Wikipedia articles. --Proud User (talk) 01:43, 17 December 2015 (UTC)

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 * What Wikipedia policy/guideline says that? --Proud User (talk) 05:52, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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Critical response summaries
Hi there, though I am aware of your arguments here and here (and oddly here) the issue isn't that WP:CHERRYPICK is a policy or a content guideline. The issue is that summaries of critical response must come from reliable sources just like any opinion. Summarizing what just happens to be on the page doesn't necessarily present the actual overall attitude of critics, and constitutes original research. Obviously if I had a bias against the show, I would be predisposed to finding negative reviews that supported my bias, and then summarizing the overall response as negative. Would you want that summary to come from a potentially biased editor? Or, if someone didn't have a bias, but went out and found a neutral balance between good and bad reviews, would that mean that the overall critical response was mixed? No, it would mean that the selection of reviews is mixed. There's a significant difference there.

Even finding a single reliable voice who says "mixed" wouldn't necessarily be sufficient, because it could constitute undue weight, i.e. giving one voice the weight to describe overall critical attitude when that might not actually be the opinion shared by the majority of critics. Though MOS:TV doesn't expressly discuss how to treat critical response, there is significant overlap between WikiProject Television editing norms and WikiProject Film. MOS:FILM instructs users to provide a reference for summaries of critical response. Frankly, I don't even see why a summary is required. If critical response was mixed, then providing a balanced representation of those reviews should be sufficient. I'd probably recommend you float a query past WT:TV to get some input. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:04, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Summaries are not considered "original research" as explained here. It states:
 * Summary is necessary to reduce the information in lengthy sources to an encyclopedic length -- even when the information being summarized comes from multiple sources. It's not necessary to find a source that summarizes the information. As long as what's in the article is an accurate, neutral summary, and each of the statements is verified by an appropriate source, then the summary is also verified by the same sources. Summary is not forbidden by any Wikipedia policy.
 * Also, there is no WP:NPOV issue as both sides are sourced and treated equally. "Mixed" simply means "an equal or almost equal amount of both positive and negitive reviews." What could be more neutral than that, and how is that undue wieght? If the intro sentence were to be changed, it would be expanded to include what the show was acclaimed or criticized for. As for the last paragraph of your argument, MOS:FILM does not apply to Sonic Underground as it is a television series, not a film.--Proud User (talk) 21:50, 13 January 2016 (UTC)


 * I think you're conveniently missing some of my points, so I'll try to rephrase in the hope that it will help.


 * If editors have chosen a balanced selection of reviews, let's say 3 positive and 3 negative, that doesn't mean that the overall critical response was generally mixed, that means that the selected reviews on the page could be described as mixed. Those two concepts are not the same. If the article had six positive reviews and no negative reviews, could we reasonably extrapolate that all the reviews out there were positive? Of course not.


 * Further, how do we as editors determine whether a review is a net positive or a net negative? Gut feeling? Even the review aggregators, Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes are not always in accord. What metric are we supposed to use exactly? Personal interpretation? And are we basing the summary on the quotes that were selected from those hand-selected reviews? An excerpt of an excerpt?  And how many reviews did you find and count out there in the wild?  A hundred?  Thirty?  Or just the six "equal or almost equal amount of both positive and negitive reviews"?


 * Summary is not forbidden by the Wikipedia community, you are correct. Summaries like "Some critics felt that the pacing of the series was slow and that the animation was choppy [1][2][3][4] " would be fine if each of the attached references contained criticism about the pacing and the animation. It would be factual to say that our four hypothetical reviewers articulated explicitly that they didn't like the pacing or the animation. That doesn't require much interpretation and there are no conclusions to draw. By contrast, attempting to summarize "Critics generally disliked the pacing of the series and the choppy animation" would not be an appropriate summary because again, we're stating as fact a conclusion we've drawn from short excerpts of a very small sampling of reviews. These are different concepts, and WP:SYNTH speaks to conclusions drawn that are not expressly stated in any of the sources. This is why the summaries of overall critical response needs to come from reliable published sources. And I still think you should float the question past WT:TV or Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Television, because I think it's a good question to get the community talking about and it's high time we codify a community preference in the MOS. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 07:04, 14 January 2016 (UTC)


 * How about the current summary that is on the page? --Proud User (talk) 10:26, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
 * "Acclaimed" is still too fluffy. This review you linked to says "The songs are actually kind of catchy in a Saturday morning cartoon kind of way, but the band thing still seems a bit out of place, especially when the instruments turn into weapons." "Actually kind of catchy" ≠ "acclaimed" in my mind. This version of the wording, "Sonic Underground was praised for its catchy music, but criticized for its complex plot" I think is the right way to go. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 21:08, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello, I have reverted your entry for now, lets discuss the matter on the articles talk page. Perhaps, we need a fork with one article for the Domesticated cat and one article for the Undomesticated cat. I look forward to working with you to make Wikipedia a better encyclopedia -:) IQ125 (talk) 12:40, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was in the middle of posting my opinion on the talk page when you left me this message. --Proud User (talk) 12:48, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

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Cease immediately
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I suggest you stop unilaterally inserting this horrible Photoshop of Mike Pence into the article, claiming you have some semblance of consensus to allow it to exist within the article. Calibrador (talk) 23:26, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Baxter LePage


The article Baxter LePage has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern:
 * Notability of gubernatorial pet not asserted. Coverage is trivial.

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RM at Template talk:Overcite
I started the RM discussion at Template talk:Overcite, where I invite you to comment. --George Ho (talk) 02:51, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Cuteness in domestic cats (January 26)
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CNMall41 (talk) 01:46, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Bing Predicts for deletion
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"Bias in Wikipedia" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Bias in Wikipedia. Since you had some involvement with the Bias in Wikipedia redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Utopes (talk / cont) 19:04, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Lists of television episodes for deletion
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"Hostile behavior" listed at Redirects for discussion
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"Being mean" listed at Redirects for discussion
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