User talk:Pyraechmes

These are the most historical people of Kilkis prefecture!! Don't you know them? Read a book then. Wou could read wikipedia, instead but as I see, wikipedia doesn't allow encyclopedian knowledge.

Stop it
Please stop changing "Macedonian" to "Slavomacedonian" mechanically. This is not what we call the thing here on Wikipedia. We stick with common international terminology, like it or not. Your edits will be reverted. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:30, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

In a 2007 arbitration case, administrators were given the power to impose discretionary sanctions on any user editing Balkans-related articles in a disruptive way. If you, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. Thank you. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:34, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

I undestand. Anyway this article is completely unreasonable. It is sipmple propaganda. It needs a lot of corrections if we want to show the truth. What's the point of refering to political parties that represent languages. We reverse the the insane to reasonable here. Do we want to inform or to create facts, usefull for extra use of extremistic interests?


 * The point about refering to that party is that it's notable, simple as that. Whether you like the party or not plays no role at all. Fut.Perf. ☼ 22:46, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

That means that we don't loose the chance to make propaganda activities in any case even in an article about languages. Your answer is an acceptance of the aim of the article.

We write about a party of 2.000 voters, and in the same time we don't write about the ethnic identity of 200.000 Slavic speakers in Macedonia, which are Greek. That means tha 1% of slavic speakers in Greece are maby your "Macedonians". Which is the article of us? The 198.000 slavophone Macedonian Greeks and our dialects? Maybe it is some other articles in another encyclopedia?

Just think of what I wrote. I think there are a lot of changes that have to be done yet, in order to reach the truth. And remember: If this is an article for the languages spoken in Greece by minorities, then it refered to 2.000 speakers in Macedonia and 30.000 speakers in Thrace. So an addition should be done in order to cover the languages spoken by 200.000 Greek slavic speakers, who don't belong in any minority, and they are always forgoten by everyone (even the Greek goverment). I write these because I am a Macedonian and my origin is of a slavic speaking area. And ofcourse I am Greek like the majority (99%)of the slavic speakers of Greek Macedonia.

And by the way, has the problem with the international name of FYROM been solved? I think UN, NATO and EE still searching for a name. Does wikipedia solved the problem by its own? And if we accept that the name of the country is Macedonia, the ethnic people of these nation should they just be called Macedonians? The three million of Macedonians (like I am) in all over the world, that they are Greeks, how should they be called?? Who decided that before 1992 I was Mecedonian and now I am Greek/Macedonian? Wikipedia? The historical names of the people should not be changed according to the political proceedures. Especially in scientific essays, such as an article in an encyclopedia. And how are we going to call the Macedonian dialects of the Greek language? Did wikipedia decided this, too? If a person reads this article, which the conclusion would reach? Will he be informed for what is Macedonia? Will he understand who were the Macedonian Fighters in the Macedonian Struggle? I think that he will propably confuse the facts. Is this the purpose of wikipedia? To declare the thesis of one side, no matter if this is wrong or right, and no matter if this confuses the readers? When I put the word "Slav" near "Macedonian" is for explanation without reducing or changing the meaning of the article. Why do you believe that this consists a problem? Chrusts 00:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

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Just a note
I think I've seen you several times using the curious word oddment. Please note that this word does not exist in English. I'm not entirely sure what you mean, but probably it's remnant or remainder. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:31, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes! I think you are right. I mean remnant. Maybe remnant is the right word. Thank's!Chrusts 08:43, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

Macedonians (Greeks)
I nominated the article for deletion: Articles for deletion/Macedonians (Greeks). Cheers!--Yannismarou (talk) 10:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * For the reasons I expose in my thread in the AfD page, where you can respond. My main question is this (besides the fact that you present the history following only the Greek version of the story): What does this article adds to the Macedonia (Greece), and Macedonia (region) articles? IMO, nothing as it is now. It is just a WP:POVFORK.--Yannismarou (talk) 11:09, 11 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I removed the characterization "nationalist". Before starting editing an article, search a bit the background. For instance, why it was chose to be redirected? Or have you possibly thought what collateral effect such an article would have? Have you read this thread?--Yannismarou (talk) 11:35, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Have in mind that the redirect was created in 2006 by a Greek user, and for three years nobody touched it. Doesn't that say anything to you?--Yannismarou (talk) 11:41, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Να τσεκάρεις το mail σου.--Yannismarou (talk) 11:47, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

ΟΚ. (αν και διαφωνώ)Chrusts 11:52, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

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How do I make a link to my page?Chrusts 22:04, 15 April 2009 (UTC)


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Macedonian dialects
Zdravo. Kako si? I have assumed that from your talk page, that you speak the "local Slavic" dialect. Ot dea si ti? Depending upon where you are from and what dialect you speak you may be interested in helping out at one of these pages. Na koj dijalekt zborish? PMK1 (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Oh ok, i just assumed from what you had written that you spoke this dialect along with Greek. As for editing the Macedonian dialect of Greek or something to that extent, I do not have enough knowledge to edit the article. As for the dialects spoken in Greek Macedonia you will find that they are the same language just north of the Border. There is very little diference between the local dialect spoken in Kilkis and Gevgelija. The same goes for Florina and Bitola. Just a question, why do you believe that the language spoken in Florina, Edessa etc. cannot be the same language spoken in Bitola, Prilep and Štip? What is your linguistic logic, from the amount of Macedonian that you know? PMK1 (talk) 10:23, 18 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The official language is much different, but it is a formal language. The majority of the villages throughout Macedonia always spoke informally (and still do!), they contracted words, they shortened sentences etc. This also happened throughout the Republic of Macedonia. However all of the dialect's words were based on the original longer word, this is why many people from south of the border from villages find the language so different. My family is from Western Macedonia, our native dialect is as different to Standard macedonian as are the dialects spoken in Kilkis, Solun and the Lower Prespa region. The dialect spoken in Florina is actually closer to standard Macedonian then my own! The Standard Macedonian is different from many dialects (this is what you are calling "language of Skopje") BUT, the Spoken Macedonian is virtually unchanged and is still spoken by the majority of people. The majority of people actually do not speak the standard language, the majority use the local dialects. The same is the case south of the border. The linguistic features of the dialects in Greece are similar to those directly across the border. PMK1 (talk) 10:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

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May 2009
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. PMK1 (talk) 00:33, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism is that you did by deleting facts. What's the problem with my editings? They are all written in historical records.Chrusts 07:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)


 * This article is about the town Polykastro. You keep putting back information about other villages and people, it is not relevant. Add that in those specific articles. You really have misinterpreted this article. We dont say "vlach-slavic" (megleno-romanian and macedonian), nor do we use Non-common usage. I suggest that you read about some of the Wikipedia practises before editing. I would be happy to help you, just lay off the WP:BOLD until you understand the project better. PMK1 (talk) 13:06, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

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Ok.Pyraechmes (talk) Chrusts 19:35, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Fearmongering.
You do realise that the most recent comments left by you on my talk page are quasi-scaremongering tactics. Unless you plan on contributing to this project from a WP:NPOV then you should reconsider your stay here. My patience with you has run out. Please do not contact me again, on my talk page, unless you have an actual issue to raise. PMK1 (talk) 11:59, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

POV
Pyraechmes, please, provide reliable references about your strange statements, that the slavophone Greeks are not from Slavic origins, but from Hellenic origins. The article Grecomans clearly says: Grecomans (Bulgarian: Гъркомани, Garkomani, Macedonian: Гркомани, Grkomani, Romanian: Grecomani, Albanian: Grekomanë) is a pejorative term used in Bulgaria, the Republic of Macedonia, Romania and Albania for Greeks of real or perceived Arvanite, Aromanian or Slavic origin.... If no, I will revert you. Jingby (talk) 10:25, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Famous Macedonians (Greeks)
All those you are deleting appear in the list of Macedonians (Greeks). Aren't those born in Macedonia, Macedonians? Especially if that's what they say about themselves. You can expect me to find out the history of each ones grandparents to have them included in a Trivia section(!) Shadow mor ph  ^"^ 10:31, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The article is not just about native Macedonians. Shadow mor ph  ^"^ 10:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we should find their origin. When we edit famous Pontians, they must be Pontians. The same with the macedonians. I made a short clean up in the list of Macedonians (Greek). If we want to state that there are Greek Macedonians, so world people will be informed of this, we have to be very carefull. The article for Macedonians Greeks has this purpose. Off course some residents of Macedonia may claim that they are macedonians in a regional way, but the Macedonians must have a continuous connection with that land. I believe this how these articles must be. There are some Cretans, Pontians, Mikrasiates, Konstantinoupolitans, Thracians etc that live in Macedonia but they can't be considered as Macedonians, at least not in the level of origin.Pyraechmes (talk)) Chrusts 10:42, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


 * For me if someone is Greek and e.g. is born and lived his whole live in Thessaloniki and says he is Macedonian, then he is Macedonian. But whatever, it is just a trivia section. Shadow mor ph  ^"^ 11:44, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Only warning
The next time you make a comment like this, I will block you. J.delanoy gabs adds 23:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Too late, he's been indefinitely blocked by another admin. Can't say I'm going to miss this editor. I note that the talk page above is full of warnings and copyvio notifications, which suggests that this was a block waiting to happen. -- ChrisO (talk) 23:55, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I shall wait. As you wrote, it was nonsense. I didn't mean to offense anyone. I apologise if I caused problems. Thank you anyway. Pyraechmes (talk))Chrusts 11:24, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

New Request
Can you explain to me the reason why not? Chrusts

Brand New Request
What comments?

Can I come back?

 * IF you are unblocked (by no means implying that you will be), I would very much like to see you avoid editing in areas related to Macedonia, FYROM, Greece, Israel, Palestine, and Judaism. Would you be willing to consent to such a topic ban if you were unblocked, with the understanding that violations of said topic ban would lead to additional blocks? Hers fold  (t/a/c) 00:35, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

It would be very difficult for me, not to write about Greece and Macedonia, since it is a subject I know very well and I can make useful contributions in history or geography on these areas. It is like forbidding someone to write in his first language. For the other topics (FYROM, Palestine, Israel and Judaism) are not in my interests anyway, and I don't have any intentions to write about topics, I am not informed well. In fact, I never wrote about Israel, Palestine or Judaism. I only wrote some articles on the Greece-FYROM common interest. User:Pyraechmes


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Unblock request by user in my el.wiki page
Pyraechmes asked me in my el:Συζήτηση_χρήστη:Magioladitis for instructions of how to get them unblocked. The user has been blocked 3 years ago, they are currently active in Greek wikipedia and seem to want to come back in the English one. Their behaviour in Greek Wikipedia looks OK with no conflicts. Their cooperation with non-Greek editors in the Greek wiki also looks OK (check for example: el:Συζήτηση χρήστη:Мико.

Any opinions on that? Should The ArbCom been contacted? What are the steps that should be followed? -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I left a message to User talk:Saturn star but they haven't edited since April. -- Magioladitis (talk) 09:15, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Check FocalPoint's coment in User_talk:Magioladitis. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

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Balkan people
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Warning
Not a good idea to return to mindless revert-warring over Macedonia-related naming issues so soon after being let back in from an indef block. This area was all nice and quiet when you were away. I would like to keep it that way. Explain why you want that disambiguation, on the talkpage. I'm evidently not the only person to whom it just makes no sense at all. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Making spurious accusations of "lying" against other editors is also not a good idea, for a person that was unblocked under conditions like yours. May I suggest you read them again? Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:31, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Moving pages without gaining consensus first
Sorry, but why did you move the Belasica page to a new title without trying to gain any form of consensus on this? What is more, you did so claiming there was evidence on the talkpage. However, the last comment there is from five years ago and no comments from you are there to be seen. Please, try and discuss moves that might be controversial prior to performing them. Thanks. -- L a v e o l  T 03:34, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

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You've been here long enough to know the situation with the Manual of Style and the discretionary sanctions in that topic area, Pyraechmes. Are you going to follow wikipedia policy or not? Dolescum (talk) 12:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You'll note I linked to all the relevant policies when I reverted you, Pyraechmes. Are you going to follow them, yes or no? Dolescum (talk) 01:45, 5 April 2015 (UTC)

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April 2015
Please stop adding unsourced content. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Fut.Perf. ☼ 06:35, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

You need to learn what reliable sources are. Of the three websites you added, one is a private, self-published website run by some poet, while the two others explicitly say they have used Wikipedia itself as their source. What you need is sources published by reputable academic linguists or historians. Also, you need to learn that we here on Wikipedia run things based on discussion. The discussion is ongoing at Talk:Voras Mountains; if you think you have something to say about the matter, go there, before you continue reverting. Fut.Perf. ☼ 19:57, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Another, unrelated note: When dealing with article names of Greek locations etc., please remember that we have a project-wide standard of how to transcribe Greek names, at WP:GREEK. There would otherwise be multiple different ways of transcribing these, and for the sake of consistency across the project it's not a good idea for editors to just move articles around to whichever of these they happen to prefer. Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:57, 4 May 2015 (UTC)


 * Please see ANI where an important discussion is occurring. Johnuniq (talk) 22:58, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for lacking sufficient competence to edit. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the following text below this notice:. &mdash;Kww(talk) 01:12, 8 May 2015 (UTC)


 * The ANI discussion that I mentioned above is now archived here. Johnuniq (talk) 10:07, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

June 2015
I really undestood the concerns of some editors. But I think they are not fair to me. They judge my intentions, without knowing them. I really don't want to cause troubles. I follow the policies. I try to understand the rules, but some times I feel like trying to prove I'm not an elephant. My contributions aim in inproving the articles. When I see unsourced sentences, I try to correct them. Sometimes this is characterized as "bullsheet". When other users add unsourced material, it is considered as "acceptable" and when I change it, I am the "bad guy". The whole discussion sterted when someone started adding "attacks" in my talk page. I didn't want him to bother me, and I didn't want talking with him, because I realised he was quarrelsome. I didn't want to "put oil in the fire" just to avoid causing problems in the community. That's why I tried to call the admins to keep him(or her) away from me. Instead, they blocked me as "ruffler". Please answer to me. Can you understand my situation here? User:PyraechmesWe were here before you came and we will be here after you leave 16:58, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

What do you mean? User:PyraechmesWe were here before you came and we will be here after you leave 23:10, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

December 2015
Can someone explain to me what that answer suppose to mean or is it just a robot-answer? User:Pyraechmes We were here before you came and we will be here after you leave 05:29, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!
Please, do not be quite strict on spelling and grammar mistakes. Blocking a user for that reason, isn't it inordinate? User:Pyraechmes We were here before you came and we will be here after you leave
 * By itself, no. But given that there have been problems with your edits stretching back more than eight years, it's important to judge your competency now. And, honestly, I'm unconvinced that it's any different from the last time you were free to edit. I'm of the opinion if you were unblocked now, you'd just end up blocked again in a few days or weeks. You are, of course, free to request another admin review your block. --Yamla (talk) 19:57, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

First, I am grateful for your reply and secondly I 'd like to say that probably you are right. Perhaps, it's better for me, to try to convince you some other time, when I will be more ready. User:Pyraechmes a user from Greece' 20:13, 13 February 2017 (UTC)