User talk:RayWyman

Welcome! I have been at this work as a volunteer editor long enough to be considered fairly handy. Please feel free to contact me if you are having trouble with editing or even creating a new article. Let me know if you need help with a big project. I'll do my best. RWymant@lk 00:51, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Jack Kirby
I understand you're a new editor and you may be unaware of the myriad Wikipedia policies and guidelines. We operate on a consensus basis centered on discussion on articles' talk pages. We don't unilaterally change long-stable infobox images without first discussing it on a talk page and gaining consensus. Sometimes that happens quickly, often it can take two weeks or a month &mdash; there's no deadline. We also do not use Wikipedia as a promotional platform, as you, I'm sure inadvertently, did by captioning the photo with the photographer's credit and a plug for a book. That information goes only on the image-file page. The Kirby Museum images are quite nice, and it's nice the Museum allows them freely licensed use. But let's do this the right way, because our actions don't affect just this one article. Please begin by bringing this up at Talk:Jack Kirby. With thanks, Tenebrae (talk) 04:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * This is better and a lot nicer (than accusing me of being a puppet). First - this photo change WAS a request from one of the Kirby Museum curators; in fact, we'd all like to see a nicer photo of Jack there. We're a bit tired of this one - it's not very good. The new photo was professionally taken and clearly more flattering of Jack. I believe that the family would prefer it as well (I could ask, if you want verification). As for the "promotion" - I followed the guidelines for naming photos in Wiki-commons; I do not see filename restrictions that you mentioned and would have followed such rules if they were clearly explained. As point of fact, the photographer mentioned is not commercially active. The book mentioned has been out of print for about 20 years. I'll do as you ask and bring it up on talk. I have my own request - please, next time, dispense with the blind accusations. I'm a volunteer too.Ray Wyman Jr (talk) 05:47, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I didn't accuse you of being a sock puppet, so perhaps throwing stones of "blind accusations" is ill-advised: I wrote (emphasis added), "I'm not sure if this is a puppet situation technically, since it links to the right place, but the user just above who's calling himself TheNewGuy is actually User:RayWyman." There's not a single inaccurate, nonfactual word in that sentence. You were the one who chose not to use your user name. Because there's no good reason for that, it needs to be pointed out.


 * Neither the Kirby Museum nor the family gets to approve or prefer which photo Wikipedia uses, so " verification" of their approval is irrelevant.


 * I didn't say "filename restrictions"; I wrote, "We leave credits on the image file page" and that we "don't put photographer credits on the article page to promote the photographer or the book." Whether the photographer is commercially active or whether the book is out of print is irrelevant; self-promotion or reputation burnishing is just as disallowed as commercial promotion under WP:ADVERTISING.


 * In any event, I'm glad to see the issue being discussed at Talk:Jack Kirby. --Tenebrae (talk) 14:46, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * And again...those naming/labeling guidelines are not posted with WikiCommons. But I thank you for pointing it out.


 * I also see that you just requested Rand to change his signature to realname. I think a rule about using real names is a great idea. I can't tell you how many Wiki editors I have met that use a variety of avatars, logos, and nom de plume. I hope it becomes Wiki-Wide accepted practice. By the way... what's your real name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RayWyman (talk • contribs)


 * You're being snide. If you want to be a productive member of the community, please try to behave civily. No one requested anyone use his or her real name &mdash; only the name under which they've registered. Anything else is misleading. --Tenebrae (talk) 16:40, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I think the civility issue goes both ways. We're all volunteers, after all. Ray Wyman Jr (talk) 17:10, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Fine. You've been here a week and you're lecturing? I never said anything that wasn't factual and well-explained. You, on the other hand, made a snide remark about "what's your real name," as if it were unusual or shady to contribute anonymously. That was unnecessary and makes an untoward and inaccurate intimation. --Tenebrae (talk) 17:20, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * As I understand, these semi-private talk pages allow editors to sort out their differences and come to agreement privately. I have done that. And if asking for your real name is an intimidation - I apologize. Frankly... all I wanted was an apology from you for being bossy and harsh. If that's not possible for you, so be it. Ray Wyman Jr (talk) 17:31, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Not "intimidation." I said "intimating" as in the verb "to intimate" &mdash; to hint at or suggest something in an indirect way. Not "to intimidate." And if my saying politely, "I understand you're a new editor and you may be unaware of the myriad Wikipedia policies and guidelines" and "as you, I'm sure inadvertently, did" is bossy and harsh, I'd have to respectfully disagree.--Tenebrae (talk) 17:48, 2 October 2013 (UTC)


 * I stand corrected. Ray Wyman Jr (talk) 17:51, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

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Grants:IEG/Wikipedia likes Galactic Exploration for Posterity 2015
Dear Fellow Wikipedians,

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