User talk:Salut65

November 2016
Creating a duplicate copy of an existing page is very rarely helpful, and frequently very unhelpful. If the page is an "Articles for creation" submission, then having two copies of it is likely to waste time of the volunteers who review such submissions, as both of them are likely to be subjected to the same review. Also, it is never acceptable to copy content from one page to another without saying that yo are doing so in your edit summary, as doing so infringes the copyright of the original authors of the content, since Wikipedia's copyright licensing terms require attribution for any copying. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:50, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

I am new to this.. so it was a mistake to resend a copy, as for some reason I could not find my own that i made. can u please check and let me know which is good thx --Salut65 (talk) 22:43, 10 November 2016 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Madeeha Naseer (January 9)
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SwisterTwister  talk  22:40, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

What of we change her actual real name to Madeeha Naseer to her Media name Diya Ali plus I have more news articles. --Salut65 (talk) 02:38, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Mrs. Pakistan World (March 23)
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Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 21:58, 23 March 2020 (UTC)

Could you let me know what areas need to be worked on? I know the categories are missing? Because I still cant understand why the article is not accepted even though its resources are very strong links and credible sources. Salut65 (talk) 11:15, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * , I've left you a message on my talk page. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 13:17, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * ,I left a message for u on the page as well. please advise if u got my explanation. Salut65 (talk) 12:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Mrs. Pakistan World has been accepted
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Thanks again, and happy editing! Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 05:25, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Muskan Jay for deletion
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Please check the news sources in regards to her career as Mrs. Pakistan and as a singer. Is there any way you can stop the deletion and I can move it to my talk page or something. please let me know. Salut65 (talk) 09:02, 23 April 2020 (UTC) There are many articles on beauty queens - P lease check this in India - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manpreet_Brar and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_G%C3%B3mez and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_McLean and many more. --Salut65 (talk) 22:45, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Diya Ali for deletion
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This article has very strong news articles and interviews. Please do check the references. This article was approved, so please advise why is it nominated for deletion as the news articles are from The Tribune, Dawn and many others. Please advise. Salut65 (talk) 09:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC) She is the first winner of the only pageant for Pakistan. Due to the political and religious turmoil in Pakistan, there is no Miss Pakistan or Mrs. Pakistan. If you look at other beauty queens, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manpreet_Brar as well as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_G%C3%B3mez and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Andrea_Betancur

There are tons of beauty queens on wikipedia. Fame does not only means movies and becoming actresses, they have contributed to participating in the worlds only pageant for pakistan that sends them to international pageants.

Salut65 (talk) 21:48, 23 April 2020 (UTC) There are many articles on beauty queens - P lease check this in India - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manpreet_Brar and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_G%C3%B3mez and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_McLean and many more --Salut65 (talk) 22:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020
Hello Salut65. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially egregious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat SEO.

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I am a pageant fanatic and also strive to get Pakistan's name in pageants. I run a pageant instagram account called pageantsaroundthe world. Thats why its my hobby to write. All this links that I have accumulated is because of me being an avid follower of pakistan's pageant. Salut65 (talk) 21:50, 23 April 2020 (UTC) You have gone on to delete almost everything on all the pageants of pakistan. Why is that? How come you think they have not contributed to any sort of fame. This seems more as a personal agenda to me. They have very strong links with Pakistan writing about them. Do you have something against the pageant system in general. As it seems you are on some sort of a path where you want their existence to leave forever. Salut65 (talk) 21:54, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

There are many articles on beauty queens - P lease check this in India - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manpreet_Brar and this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolina_G%C3%B3mez and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michelle_McLean and many more. Salut65 (talk) 22:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on User talk:MistyGraceWhite. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. MistyGraceWhite (talk) 00:15, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, as you did at User_talk:MistyGraceWhite, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''I asked nicely that you go back to assuming good faith with this editor and work out your problems in the appropriate AfD discussions. also asked nicely that you take the problems to the appropriate AfD discussions as well and stop leaving comments on their TP. Yet, you have continued with your harassment and baseless accusations of prejudice. And now you are making comments like " It is only a matter of time" which by even the narrowest scope can be construed as a threat. Please cease the harassment and/or take any issues you have to the appropriate AfD discussions. '' Sulfurboy (talk) 00:17, 25 April 2020 (UTC)


 * , you must not do this much heck. I had told you on my TP that AfD is normal routine of Wikipedia. Provide a better rationale on the deletion discussion, the article shall remain on Wikipedia. I checked a number of these articles, including Aatka Feroz, I did not found any third party reliable reference for it, except one. You should look at WP:1E for some guidelines. Your copy pasting the same thing on each AfD is not right. It is not good. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 01:27, 25 April 2020 (UTC)



I am not talking about her deletion of articles. She has removed a lot of citations about a good 50 from the pageants pages. Not the winners. She did it in such a manner that one cannot even revert back to the original document. She can go ahead and delete what she wants to. Anyways, I have mentioned that she can do as she wishes. There is no one helping to work on the page Miss Paksitan World and the person who started the contest. She then went on to say I am a paid member and I am receiving payment and that I should disclose it. Again I repeat myself, that deletion of pages is not my issue. She her removed over 50 important news articles from pages of Sonia Ahmed and Miss Pakistan World. That is why I am pointing it out to her that she shuld not have done so. I am not harrassing the user. I gave my opinion in a very proper manner. Plus I have given examples of the pages that are pertaining to pageants. Again I am not saying anything about the pages nominated for deletion, I could care less, but yes the user went n 24 hours and nominated all the pages for deletion. Shanzay Hayat is a page that should have never been nominated for deletion yet it is. Anyways, I am no longer going to comment on the user's page. As for me her agenda is quiet clear. Salut65 (talk) 02:11, 25 April 2020 (UTC) Salut65 (talk) 02:11, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

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Main issue is that a few references are from IMdB, which is not regarded as the most reliable source for articles - see WP:IMDB. Those should be replaced with more reliable sources such as major newspapers for example. Dl2000 (talk) 01:42, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * Yes, I did upload a some very relevant links but for some reason the message is still there on the page about unreliable sources.
 * www.pakobserver.net/areej-chaudhary-miss-pakistan-world-opens-up-about-her-success-journey/
 * www.urdupoint.com/en/showbiz/areej-chaudhary-miss-pakistan-world-aiming-1792206.html
 * www.app.com.pk/domestic/dhai-chaal-movie-life-dream-project-to-unveil-truth-about-balochistan-areej-ch/
 * All this shows her work and her previous work in the film industry.
 * Please check.
 * Thanks Salut65 (talk) 01:49, 24 March 2024 (UTC)