User talk:Sceptre/Archive 52

Heh
Ahem *cough* wrong lyrics *cough* :P Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp  15:17, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:Fakecn
Template:Fakecn has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Chirps•Clams•Chowder) 19:20, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

Let me guess...
...some mƒ from ED needs some fresh air? &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  01:35 18 July, 2008 (UTC)

Oh nice—I didn't even realise it was Grawp. We'll just wait for him to settle down like WoW did. ;) &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  01:38 18 July, 2008 (UTC)


 * I meant boycloth 's (sorry, I forgot it's not Opposite's Day) humble slave. Unless there was something between the lines that I didn't get… &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  01:42 18 July, 2008 (UTC)

National Revival of Poland
Don't you think you should take one step further and delete external links section of this article. Wiki isn't a directory of extremist websites after all. Cheers. M0RD00R (talk) 15:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * P.S. ONR demonstration wasn't "during" the anniversary of the anti-Jewish pogrom, it was dedicated celebration of this event. I do not think there is a need or way to "cut the spin" as you put, in this case. M0RD00R (talk) 15:54, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm whacking you with the mystical blue flamingo
As the articles created from WP:AfC are not written by you, you must explicitly credit the actual author in the edit summary, otherwise you break the GFDL.

I've fixed some of your recent AfC article submissions so that they're GFDL compliant (I'll do a few more). I've used a tweaked version of the edit summary AfC suggests; I'll leave the rest to you!

*Whack* :). Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp  16:42, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Clarification required
Could you clarify what you are trying to convey here? Rudget  ( logs ) 16:56, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Rudget   ( logs ) 16:57, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

ANI Thread
Sceptre, cummon buddy. There's no way WP can help with issues on WR. I've resolved the thread. Move on .... please. Pedro : Chat  22:35, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. But seriously, I know you may be angry but nothing can be done on WP at this time (IMHO). I'm sorry, and I have about zero time for Kurt myself, but you've got to be realistic on this. If he offends your eye simply ignore his keyboard bashing! Pedro : Chat  22:43, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sceptre, let's take a step back here man. Trust me, the guy attempted to have me recalled as an administrator because I removed one of his Arbitrary Committee rants that he was spamming to various threads. I like the guy even less then you do right now.. but they're not going to do anything over IRC (where there is no guidelines) and WR (where, if WP had power over what people say on WR, well, about a third of the population there would have fits of Apolexy). Just ignore him, and move on. Let me know if you need help with the functionality of ignoring. SirFozzie (talk) 22:47, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
 * My friend, there are a number of editors like this. However, Kurt does good work here. I personally am ammused by him. His stances on everything from the most pointless of things (RFA) to the gravest of possible things (suicide), are those of an idealist young man. He is a fool, but not due to lack of inteligence - indeed I read a very clever man into him. He is a fool through a lack of life experience. Some 20 years from now he will be a different man, able to understand better - although right now he would deny this - thinking his ideas will be permanent and unflexible. But for now it is best left alone, as no good will come from it. Kurt works hard here, as do you. Ignore his bad words. They are as a child who is spiteful to his mother. Intended at one level, but regreted much later. Pedro : Chat  22:55, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Heyo
Could you please guide me in the secret art of the floating smiley? (lower right corner) Cheers,  Jaakobou Chalk Talk  23:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC) clarify 23:06, 19 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Took me a little while to sort it out, but I think I got the hang of it. Thank you for the link.  Jaakobou Chalk Talk  23:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Sourcing
Further to the Fleur Beale AfD, I have noted there that being unsourced is not a reason for deletion and in this case the article was sourced but not with inline citations. I have converted the references and footnotes to inline citations. Many "unsourced" articles contain implicit references in a variety of formats and I have occasional bouts of makng those explicit. Please consider adding this to the many useful cleanup tasks that you do. &mdash; Theo (Talk) 06:44, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough
Fair enough - I didn't actually edit in that article, as far back as I can recall. Stubbing is probably for the best, though I honestly cannot see how the usual crowd of Rom-bashers can be kept away from the page without more drastic measures. And, yes, the "references" provided were mostly unilateral and taken out of context (an article about a whole people written as a synthesis of some journalists' opinions is just wrong). Cheers, Dahn (talk) 09:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

NOP again
Hi, I tend to agree with blanking of this article, it was obviously crapish. But... no matter how bad it was it was way better than extremist version with all that "Jewish lies" crap, that stayed in the main space for weeks. So where do we go from here from now on?. Attempts to make it PR article, from the members of this organization, will never stop. We've seen one today, I'm sure we'll see more of those soon. Criticism from US Dept. of State, European Commission, etc etc is notable enough to be included - anti-Semitic and xenophobic nature of this org is reliably sourced, and this topic can not be avoided in sake of "neutrality". Proponents of this group so far presented no reliable source, no academic article, no nothing in favour of this group, because there is no such thing. This is what I guess makes them mad. The more uninvolved editors like you will contribute to this article, the better. And I mean real contributing, like taking part in discussion on talk page, adding refernces etc, and not simple reverting without making any input into discussion. Cheers. M0RD00R (talk) 12:26, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, Sceptre
Thanks. Sarah 00:31, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Be careful or you'll be labeled a harpie feminazi with PMS yourself! :) Sarah 01:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * hehehe I don't think the 'minor' fact you're a guy would deter him! Anyone who disagrees with him must be a feminazi! It can't possibly be because he's a misogynist and a bigot who has a demeaning view of women. I really must get back into the kitchen - how dare I edit Wikipedia without male supervision?! Sarah 01:39, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

lol :) I do agree about "feminist" and I don't think of myself as a feminist - I just believe everyone should be treated the same regardless of sex, race, religion, etc. And that's especially so on the internet where you can't even be sure if people are women or not! I mean, look at Tony Sidaway editing as "Jenny". I'm not sure about arbitration but I strongly believe he should be desysopped one way or the other. I just don't see how you can have an admin of a top ten website openly making such bigoted and offensive comments about 50% of the population. It's a news headline waiting to happen! It might be worth waiting and seeing if more people comment - I'm hoping some guys might comment as it seems like he will only listen to men. :/ Sarah 02:13, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD
Why did you remove the AfD tag from an article under active discussion at AfD, without a clear summary, and with the edit marked as as minor? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:33, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Even if the AfD had been closed, the edit removing the tag should be clearly labelled and not be a minor edit. Please be more careful, especially when you're pre-occupied. Was there a reason, other than deleting a still-current tag, that you asked to have the article unprotected? ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:38, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Editing while preoccupied? ;) ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:44, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please add the article to your watchlist. There was a reason it was protected. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 03:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Because you've earned it

 * Very good job on trying to keep misogyny out of Wiki, however given the number of defenders Bedford had I'm afraid that the problem is much deeper than I'd ever suspected. I hate bigotry and it's nice to see someone stand up against it.  &#0149;Jim 62 sch&#0149; dissera! 09:00, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * (re reply on my page): Just keep doing what you're doing, we'll just agree to disagree on occasion (as warranted), ;)  I think we both want the same things for WP, and that's a good thing.  It took a certain amount of intestinal fortitude to do what you did and  I'm glad you stuck with it.  &#0149;Jim 62 sch&#0149; dissera! 09:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * re for example, have you ever seen Phaedriel or Alison actually start drama intentionally? -- no, never. But what do we say to Bedford's defenders?  Nothing, I suppose, (what can we say?) but I will most certainly keep them in mind. Hard to believe that in 2008 we still have such ignorance running rampant.  Disgusting, maddening and quite sad.  &#0149;Jim 62 sch&#0149; dissera! 09:39, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

your question on Requests for adminship/L'Aquatique
People just assume that if one person asks a question about someone else's question, it's 'cause the first person is ready to argue for some reason. But no :-) I was just really intrigued by your question. Why would it matter what media file one had listened to, and how would one contribute to the encyclopedia about it? Thanks Ling.Nut (WP:3IAR) 04:39, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * replied on my talk, to keep it in one place.. thanks :-) Ling.Nut (WP:3IAR) 05:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ummmmmmmmmmm this is gonna be gross and morbid and depressing.. but.. have you considered the unfortunate connection between the name Death Cab for Cutie and title What Sarah Said and the name Sarah Said? See this; much more on Google. Ling.Nut (WP:3IAR) 09:35, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thankspam
Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.

Cheers!

J.delanoy gabs adds 19:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

RFA thank-you
Thank-you for your support of me at my recent RFA, which was successful. I have appreciated everyone's comments and encouragement there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 03:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Sceptre 2
I've deleted the RfC you filed against yourself as trolling. We don't need to waste everyone's time because of a misguided comment from Bedford. If you have problems that he was referring to you as an admin, ask him to change his words, or make a statement at RfArb.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  16:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for July 2008
SoxBot II (talk) 03:16, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision
Hello, you appear to have listed yourself as a member of WikiProject Eurovision. A discussion is currently ongoing on the talk page on reform of this projects goals and organisation. Proposals have been made on the future covering and scope of WikiProjects relating to the Eurovision Dance Contest, Eurovision Song Contest, and the Junior Eurovision Song Contest. These proposals include possibly re-naming WikiProject Eurovision to WikiProject Eurovision Song Contest and starting a new project called WikiProject Eurovision Dance Contest. As a member of this project, you may wish to give your input at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Eurovision. Thank you. Camaron | Chris (talk) 08:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Cool down blocks
Please do not keep removing the discourangement of the cool down blocks provision from the blockig policy until and unless a consensus for such a change is established. I have left a message at Wikipedia talk:Blocking policy explaining my objections. You are welcome to discuss your view there. Thank you, Nsk92 (talk) 12:26, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Help, please.
I remember you as one of the few good editors on Wikipedia and seemed to be able to get things done.

Could you take a look at the article Rastafari movement? It might make you chuckle. It's really that horrible, filled with a variety of fringe theories: cannabis is derived from the Hebrew qaneh bosom, the claim that there were ancient Hindu mystics who smoked weed and had dreadlocks, the claim that ancient Israelites had dreadlocks, and there's a variety of incoherently interpreted Biblical passages. The whole thing is just crap. Complete and total crap.

Anyway, there's someone guarding the article right now who is being a bit ridiculous. Take a look at this. I removed that sentence because it was absurd and he restores it with a Google search for "rasta way of life" as a citation! Hahaha!

Also, see the talkpage. &#9775; Zenwhat (talk) 19:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

New FA-Team mission needs your help!
Félix Houphouët-Boigny needs to be copyedited and peer reviewed. We would appreciate any and all help from the crack members of the FA-Team! Sign up here. Merci! Awadewit (talk) 12:14, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Smack Noir Vandalism
You sited that I did an act vandalism to the Smack Noir page that I was editing. As the creator of the Smack Noir page, I do not understand what my infraction was. I cannot view the page to see what my error was or to correct it. Please explain what was done that constitutes vandalsim under Wikipedia's guidelines. RunnerX13 23:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * To be fair, I don't think Runner meant to recreate the article, he was putting a 'hang on' tag on the article but it was killed just before he posted so he involuntarily recreated it including just the 'hang on' tag. Sticky</b> <b style="color:#FF8C00;">Parkin</b> 02:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Stop
This is pointy and ridiculous. If you're so emotionally involved here that you can't be reasonable, just log off and do something else for a while. Friday (talk) 14:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

John Edwards
Please review the extensive discussion at Talk:John Edwards. The material you removed was supported by a strong consensus. Ronnotel (talk) 17:57, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Civility
Will, I've always felt we've enjoyed positive communications and interactions. Your crusade regarding the civility policy (most recent example) is becoming more disruptive than the actions of others you accuse of disruption. I'm saddened that you can't see that you're simply fanning flames, striring pots and creating drama. I'd suggest you pause, take a breath, and consider wether your actions in this regard are actually helping Wikipedia. Pedro : Chat  12:12, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * *sigh* I get it. It's not Kurt. That's great. But it is getting very close to disruption to cause a point. Pedro : Chat  12:40, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Mass blanking
Hi, I've reverted your blankings of List of fascist movements by country A-F and associated articles. The articles have survived the AfD for which you nominated them. If you disagree with the outcome, please refer to this guide. Thanks, --Stlemur (talk) 18:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Prove they're fascist by using sources. If this is an editorial problem, it should be done in an editorial fashion: e.g. removal of unsourced material. Sceptre (talk) 18:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, I think in the case of the National Fascist Party (for example), there isn't a lot of room for argument. In general, though, sources are included in the articles linked to. I refer you to those.


 * Also, I will reiterate that blanking articles which have just recently survived an AfD with solid consensus strikes me as an unhelpful strategy which might even come across as vandalism. I note that in the time it's taken me to write this, you've blanked the articles again. --Stlemur (talk) 18:21, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

List of fascist movements by country G-M
Just so you know, I've gotten about halfway through cleaning this one up. If you would like to pitch in and check the remaining ones that I did not leave a by you may do so. ——  nix eagle 20:10, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

...
Seriously? Why do RfAs get used as opinion platforms? Could you imagine if someone did that to you? I'm really disappointed. Seraphim&hearts; Whipp  22:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reconsideration. Pedro : Chat  13:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of criticism articles
You could have more success with suggesting moves rather than deletions.--Kozuch (talk) 14:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Removal of rollback
In the sequence of reverts you made to you abused the rollback function to revert non-vandal edits. I have removed your rollback capability for a period of 30 days as a result. Please re-apply at Requests for permissions or ask an administrator in 30 days to have it re-granted.  MBisanz  talk 14:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Pointyness
Will, I'm sure you know that what you're doing is pointy and disruptive; the WP:CIVIL thing the other day, now this mass-tagging of any and all "Criticism of ..." articles. Deliberately doing things to get a reaction is trolling, and I can't think of any more apposite term for what you've been doing. I don't know if you'll listen to me or not, but please consider not trolling any more, or you risk being blocked. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#963"><B>Neıl</B> <u style="text-decoration:none;color:#936">  ☄   15:07, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sceptre, I must also address this issue. I've been on your talk page for the last couple of days regarding your actions. I really do have a lot of time for you mate, but WP is bigger than your causes. I urge you to come to ANI, admitt you made a few mistakes and just hold you hands up - then we can all move on without drama. Please. Pedro : Chat  15:11, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool - that's fine by me. Just stick you head in at ANI and then we can get round to discussing the AFD's at AN with a lot less drama. I'm only trying to balance things here Sceptre - the last thing I want is you blocked, but you need to go to ANI and make some ammends. Pedro : Chat  15:19, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It may well highlight hypocrisy, but I think that's better debated on another day when things are a touch calmer Pedro : Chat  15:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Pedro's advice is good - chill out a bit. It may not have been your intention to troll or disrupt, but to me as a neutral observer, that's what it looked like. As I've just said on WR, you seem to have gone a bit mental, and risk being blocked. I don't want to see you blocked, because you're normallly good people, so I'm hoping once you've cooled down a bit, things will be okay. <u style="text-decoration:none;font:100% cursive;color:#963"><B>Neıl</B>  <u style="text-decoration:none;color:#936">  ☄   15:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Scepre, I'm asking you again. Please just let it go. Walk away from this whole situation.  Syn  ergy 15:57, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I hope you don't mind me bumping in as an external editor who isn't really involved in this discussion. From what i have seen is that you have been, and are, an excellent editor. What i can also see is that lately things have been going not so well, if you permit me to say that. I don't know exactly what happened, but regardless of that remember pedro's advice is a good one, even if at this time "Cooling down" or "stepping away" are about the last things on your mind. There have been times i wanted to bombard rules to kingdom come, in my case especially the rules on vandalism that requires warning blatant vandals several times while you KNOW that its going to be result from letting them wander about. However, also remember that editing and fighting policies with a cool head tends to give much better results. Excirial ( Talk, Contribs ) 16:16, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Bedford
Sceptre, please do not leave any more messages on Bedford's talk page that will be read as taunting him. Provoking him further is not going to help the project in any way that I can see. And civility is expected of everyone. Jonathunder (talk) 17:24, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggestion...
Will - given the events of the last few days, and the various problems you have encountered, perhaps you should consider taking a true break. If you're unable to tear yourself away, even though you are clearly unhappy with Wikipedia, there is always Wikibreak Enforcer. <strong style="color:#000;background:#fff;border:0px solid #000">Avruch <strong style="color:#000;background:#fff;border:0px solid #000"> T 21:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Cheer up, mate!
<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:blue; background-color:AliceBlue; border-width:1px; text-align:left; padding:8px;" class="plainlinks">

SingWale (talk) has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Cheers, and Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. SingWale (talk) 23:39, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, do :)
Here's some curry for you, since I know you like it. :) &mdash; $PЯINGεrαgђ  00:09 7 August, 2008 (UTC)