User talk:Sdkb/Archive 8

"Template:American Engilsh" listed at Redirects for discussion
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Your draft article, User:Sdkb/Dupont Circle CVS escalator


Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Dupont Circle CVS escalator".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * @Liz, oopsie. It's an evergreen joke page — could you please restore, along with User talk:Sdkb/Dupont Circle CVS escalator and redirect Draft:Dupont Circle CVS escalator? Also lmk if there's anything specific I can change in the draft tag to prevent it from being G13'd again. Thanks and sorry for the hassle! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 18:13, 30 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Hello, Sdkb,
 * Sorry for the delay, I don't check my "pings" because I seem to get pinged quite a lot unnecessarily. I've restored all of the pages, it's no hassle at all. There are two things you can do to avoid these pages getting deleted in another 6 months. First, make an edit to the page every few months, don't forget that it exists. Then, it won't appear on our daily list of expiring drafts. If this page was in Draft space, that would be your only option. But your page is in User space and I believe that the reason it appears on our G13 list is because you have an AFC tag on it, indicating that it is an article draft that you intend to submit. If this page is only for your use and you do not intend it to go to main space, remove this AFC tag. And it would be even more protected if you put a tag on the page, indicating that it is not a draft at all but a page you created for yourself.
 * If someone sees it and thinks it shoud be deleted, they could still either tag it CSD U5 or send it to MFD but I think that is unlikely since you have been editing here so long. Once an editor has earned respect through their work, others don't usually wander through their User pages, in case they have User pages devoted to entire seasons of reality shows or sports teams so I think you're safe! Liz Read! Talk! 00:38, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * @Liz, thanks for restoring and for the info! Hmm, I see that I put yes when I used the AFC tag, which prevented the page from being categorized as a submission and should have prevented it from showing up on any lists., would it be worthwhile to tweak your bot so that it respects the demo parameter? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:47, 6 October 2022 (UTC)

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Welcome templates and WMF email policy
Please have a look at WP:VPW. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 04:27, 14 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for flagging this! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:36, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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Random thought
Do you think the slight irony in having so many navigational internal templates in an "External links" section is a discontinuity that will/could ever be addressed?  Aza24  (talk)   22:15, 5 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Aza24, hmm, interesting observation! Since navboxes would still go at the bottom for an article that ended with references or a different section, I tend not to see them as part of the external links section at all. Then again, Authority control is certainly a collection of external links. Perhaps someday we'll decide that there should be a distinct "bottom matter" section, or we'll move the navboxes somewhere else (we were brainstorming earlier today at the New Vector office hours about how it'd look in the right margin), but I've never noticed the irony until you raised it just now.
 * The biggest related issue in the realm of navigation templates is that we have both navboxes (at the bottom) and sidebars (at the side), which are completely redundant to each other and for which there is no guidance on when to use one vs. the other (I think has discussed this before). If it weren't for status quo bias I'd suggest that we standardize by converting all sidebars to navboxes. &#123;{u&#124;  Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:00, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I will say that sidebars are often more helpful for big topics (something like articles for music, visual arts) since there is usually not an obvious lead image anyways, so sometimes they take that place suitably. Otherwise, yeah, the redundancy is not great. Hmm.   Aza24  (talk)   21:04, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Glenn Arbery for deletion
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DYK for Heroes of the Fourth Turning
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Your thoughts on Contra dance edit?
Somebody named AcerPorte changed a paragraph on the history of contra. I think it's a pretty good change, though I'd like to read the cited works to be sure. However, this editor makes some weird tense choices in those changes. I thought I'd ask your opinion before fixing it.

BTW, I'm reading a very good book on the history of Appalachian dance: Hoedowns, Reels & Frolics by Phil Jamison. There's a little on contra, but mostly squares. It does a very good job of dispelling the old myth that Appalachian dance came exclusively from the British Isles. Paulmlieberman (talk) 01:25, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I saw that edit but didn't get a chance to dig into it. The tense should certainly be fixed, though. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 01:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Will Arbery
Hi! I saw your DYK and found a draft for Draft:Will Arbery. It seemed salvagable so I fixed it up a bit. Feel free to edit if you like! Best, Thriley (talk) 02:48, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Thriley, thanks for pointing me to that draft and helping get it to mainspace! Overall, it could probably use some additional work to focus less on Arbery's awards and generic praise from reviews, but it's on a good path. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 22:48, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Follow-up on Sunshine Protection Act
Hey Sdkb,

Earlier this year I inquired about changes to the Sunshine Protection Act article and its inaccuracies. Our conversation was moved here: User talk:Sdkb/Archive 7#Sunshine Protection Act. Would you mind responding to this?

The switch to standard time is approaching and starts November 6. I wouldn't want Wikipedia to be promoting slanted information when this article receives more hits from the web. A248 (talk) 20:19, 19 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for following up about this! The prior discussion just points to the article's talk page, where discussion is centralized. I fixed the article and replied there. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 01:18, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Abhijitcharlie (16:01, 29 October 2022)
Please guide me how to make a impressive page in wiki. --Abhijitcharlie (talk) 16:01, 29 October 2022 (UTC)


 * @Abhijitcharlie, see Help:Your first article. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Zhao Jiawen


Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Zhao Jiawen".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 21:04, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I couldn't ever find sufficient sourcing for Zhao (one of the Olympic torchbearers) in English to establish notability, although I suspect sources probably exist in Chinese. But to get to the point, for newcomers, it's really not good to have the "draft expiring soon" notice come instantly before the "your draft was deleted" notice (see above). We actively want newcomers to complete and submit their drafts rather than abandoning them, and requiring them to go through WP:REFUND is a huge hurdle to that. Can we please ensure that the bot and our deletion practices are timed properly so that newcomers have a month to finish up their drafts? This has been a recurring problem, and we're presumably losing articles because of it. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 23:03, 30 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Update: It appears that the bot had stopped working and has since been fixed. Not great to have the outage, but hopefully it won't happen again. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

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 * by others. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Unosaarcyouth on User talk:DoubleGrazing (23:41, 7 November 2022)
Hello, I have wrriten article and submitted references of Hindi news paper but got rejected. can you please help me to complete this article about a person. Thank you --Unosaarcyouth (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)


 * @Unosaarcyouth, please read and follow the advice at your user talk page. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 03:14, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Pushpin map of the world's FAs (discussion from March)
continued from Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_200

Hi Sdkb, I'm quite behind with my reply to your comment in the thread above, and now the thread has been archived. My apologies. In the thread, you were suggesting to color-code the icons by type. Thanks a lot for your suggestion. Our team had actually discussed this question before. What you're asking for would be possible with the groups feature that exists on Wikivoyage. That feature does not exist on other wikis, though, for performance/parser complexity reasons. That is not to say this could never be done, but it is too complex for our team in the time we have left in this area, which is approximately until the end of 2022. -- Thanks again and best regards, Johanna Strodt (WMDE) (talk) 10:05, 10 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the update, Johanna! The idea was just an offhand suggestion, so while it'd be nice someday, overall I'm thrilled we're able to have the map at the FA page. Thanks for your efforts! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:24, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

"X views on articles you have edited"
Personally, I think that this phrase is just as useless as YouTube views for motivation – people are numb of big numbers. The viewcount for my edits at Elon Musk rarely inspired me to edit more. My suggestion is to say "X people have learnt from articles you have edited", as it shows that people care about your work, and they appreciate it. CactiStaccingCrane (talk) 14:49, 14 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hmm, interesting thought! I'd be fine with that rephrasing. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:11, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks! Let me know if this was in response to anything specific. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:20, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

TikTok
Hi Sdkb. You've lent a hand at Talk:TikTok a few times in the past - would you mind weighing in at Talk:TikTok? My initial post was met with a response that I feel was overly exclusionist, and it would help to have a set of unbiased eyes take a look. Thanks! Bkenny44 (talk) 17:47, 25 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Your response at Talk:TikTok was much appreciated. I replied to your post there and am looking forward to continuing the conversation with you until we reach a point where you are comfortable implementing some version of my proposed content. Thanks again! Bkenny44 (talk) 13:05, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Shahoo2002 (14:07, 16 November 2022)
Hi I need to create an article about a revolutionary song which has put en a deep influence on the iranian uprising. i want to put the english translation here on wikipedia. how do i start? --Shahoo2002 (talk) 14:07, 16 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Shahoo2002! The content translation tool may help you. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 07:00, 21 November 2022 (UTC)

DYK for House of Waters
Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 20 November 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for a good one! Opera and Advent choral music on my talk --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Question from Rekipope (19:08, 22 November 2022)
Are you a bot because basically there's a new word called "Scaranation" and stuff but I just want to know if you're a real person or not. (Sorry if you're offended). --Rekipope (talk) 19:08, 22 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Rekipope! Bleep bloop 🤖 &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:15, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * (If you're considering making a new Wikipedia article on the word, be aware of WP:NEO — not all new words qualify to have articles.) &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:16, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I just want the people to know about Scaranation since it was on the news and in the Urban Dictionary. Rekipope (talk) 23:12, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

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Growth team newsletter #23


Welcome to the twenty-third newsletter from the Growth team!

Highlights

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Positive reinforcement: an improved impact module to test
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Question from Nz18 (11:04, 2 December 2022)
Hello mentor! I made several edits to a page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manju_Singh), and am wondering if I can delete the template message myself, or if someone else should do it. Thank you. --Nz18 (talk) 11:04, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thanks for helping out! So long as you have no conflict of interest and are confident the issues have been resolved, you're welcome to remove the tags yourself. Looking at them briefly, the bare URLs and lack of inline references seem resolved, but the fact the article refers to her as a "pioneer" in the first sentence hints that there may still be some advertising issues. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 11:43, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you! I have edited out all the 'advertising' words and it should read quite neutrally now, so I have removed the template. Nz18 (talk) 17:23, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

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Question from Blueshiftofdeath (23:18, 13 December 2022)
Hi! I noticed that section 3.3 "Middle Ages" in the "Berbers" page is way too long, and I wanted to move it to another page. Do I need to do anything special for that? Should I just make a new page and copy the contents of section 3.3 over to it? I couldn't find an any official policy for how to approach this kind of change.

Thanks for your help!! --Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 23:18, 13 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi @Blueshiftofdeath! Looks like you're referring to . That is indeed a fairly long section in a fairly long page (93,000 characters of readable prose, which is almost certainly too long). However, there could be different reasons for it, and without digging into it myself, I can't say which is the case. Sometimes pages are too long because they go into too much detail, and they need to be condensed down to a more encyclopedic summary style. If there are a lot of quotes and low-quality prose containing seemingly trivial information, this is likely the case. But sometimes they do need to be split off into a separate article, a process called Splitting. The procedure section there will show you how to propose that. It can be a slow process, so don't be alarmed if it takes a long time to garner opinions — the discussion will find consensus eventually and proceed accordingly. Before you make a splitting proposal, I'd check carefully to make sure that there isn't already an article that covers something similar to the scope you envision for the split off article (which would be something like Berbers in the Middle Ages?). If another article with a similar scope already exists, then you'll likely want to just add a Main or Further hatnote to the section in Berbers and then condense the section. I hope that helps! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 23:33, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
 * This is super helpful, thanks so much!! Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 02:51, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

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Question from TonyLantana (23:12, 15 December 2022)
hello im new to this.

I put a cool page up similar to this one... I used to work with them : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astro_Studios

but the moderator took it down when I put a link to one of my products. any advice on how to get a page like that up and not getting deleted?

thank you --TonyLantana (talk) 23:12, 15 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @TonyLantana, the message on your talk page has some info. More can be found at WP:COI and WP:NCORP. You are a paid editor, so please take the time to educate yourself rather than asking me as a volunteer to do your work for you. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 19:26, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

hi

 * My Discord username resembles my Wikipedia one, so I shouldn't be hard to find. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 01:21, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy holidays!
Happy Holidays and Happy New Year, Sdkb!

The other day, I was having a conversation with someone about holiday cards and social media. It occurred to me that, in the years since I left Facebook, the site I use most to communicate with people I like isn't actually a social media site at all. If you're receiving this, it's pretty likely I've talked with you more recently than I have my distant relatives and college friends on FB, at very least, and we may have even collaborated on something useful. So here's a holiday "card", Wikipedia friend. :) Hope the next couple weeks bring some fun and/or rest. &mdash; Rhododendrites  talk \\ 18:34, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy Holidays text.png Hello Sdkb: Enjoy the holiday season&#32;and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC) Spread the WikiLove; use {{subst:Season's Greetings}} to send this message  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 17:22, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

19 months...
...after TFD#Template:Auto archiving notice was filed and languishing at WP:TFDH, the merger with Talk header has been completed. I remember had replaced the easy ones with their bot, but there about ~800 that had to be replaced case by case after review. ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ (talk) 16:22, 26 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @ಮಲ್ನಾಡಾಚ್ ಕೊಂಕ್ಣೊ, amazing! Glad to hear it! &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 20:48, 26 December 2022 (UTC)

Happy New Year!




 Sdkb , Thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia, and a Happy New Year to you and yours! CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)


 * – Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year}} to user talk pages.

CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 23:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Motley Coffeehouse


Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Motley Coffeehouse".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:02, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Micro-Face


Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Micro-Face".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 17:03, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023
Hello , The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day. won the 2022 cup for 28,302 article reviews last year - that's an average of nearly 80/day. There was one Gold Award (5000+ reviews), 11 Silver (2000+), 28 Iron (360+) and 39 more for the 100+ barnstar. led again for the 4th year by clearing 49,294 redirects. For the full details see the Awards page and the Hall of Fame. Congratulations everyone!
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Discussions with the WMF The PageTriage open letter signed by 444 users is bearing fruit. The Growth Team has assigned some software engineers to work on PageTriage, the software that powers the NewPagesFeed and the Page Curation toolbar. WMF has submitted dozens of patches in the last few weeks to modernize PageTriage's code, which will make it easier to write patches in the future. This work is helpful but is not very visible to the end user. For patches visible to the end user, volunteers such as and  have been writing patches for bug reports and feature requests. The Growth Team also had a video conference with the NPP coordinators to discuss revamping the landing pages that new users see.


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Growth team newsletter #24
Welcome to the twenty-fourth newsletter from the Growth team!

Newcomer experience projects
The Growth team partnered with other WMF teams to conduct several experiments around increasing account creation and new editor retention. Results from four of these experiments are now available:


 * Thank you pages & banners - Encourage donors to create accounts through thank you pages and banners.
 * Marketing experiment - Run ads on-wiki and off-wiki to see how this impacts account activation.
 * "Add an image" GLAM events - Host GLAM events that focus on using the "Add an image" tool.
 * Welcome emails - Experiment sending welcome emails to newly created accounts.

Newcomer tasks

 * Several communities suggested improving "add a link", by suggesting underlinked articles first. We released this change to Growth pilot wikis. We will review the data and collect feedback before considering releasing it to more wikis.
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Question from Atulkumar938 (04:45, 5 February 2023)
How can I start editing my page. --Atulkumar938 (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Atulkumar938! Are you referring to your user page? The instructions for that are at the link. But you probably want to start editing articles first — user pages are not personal profiles but rather spaces to aid the goal of building an encyclopedia. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:53, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Editor of the Week
User:Clovermoss submitted the following nomination for Editor of the Week:
 * May I introduce the awesome editor that is Sdkb. I checked the list of previously awarded EOTWs and I was shocked that they were not on there, honestly. Sdkb's done a lot of amazing things but I mostly remember them for their hard work in streamlining a lot of the templates used to welcome new editors, helping out at the Teahouse, and running SdkbBot. This nomination was seconded by User:theleekycauldron

You can copy the following text to your user page to display a user box proclaiming your selection as Editor of the Week:

Thanks again for your efforts! &#8213; Buster7  &#9742;   15:02, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the nomination, and ! This is such an honor, especially coming from editors I respect as much as you two. And thanks for sharing the good news, ! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124;  Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:12, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm flattered that I'm someone people respect. Seriously though, you deserve this. I hope you have a good week. :) Clovermoss 🍀  (talk) 18:30, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Pomona College most popular majors
I understand your argument but disagree with your revert of the list of most popular majors which I had added at Pomona College, so I started a thread at the talkpage, with a potentially compromise. Feel free to weigh in. I don't intend to discuss further, but will leave the resolution to those more involved in that article. Thanks. Banks Irk (talk) 23:39, 27 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note, @Banks Irk! Since the question you raise applies very broadly to all colleges, I think it's best discussed at the WikiProject Higher education talk page. I see you also opened a thread there, so let's centralize discussion at that. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 03:04, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

You're welcome. Your point is a valid one, and I can see various resolutions. I'll be interested in the responses at the project talk page. Banks Irk (talk) 04:28, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

WikiProject Editor Retention/Editor of the Week/Recipient user box
I noticed that you've edited this page in the past. I have the Editor of the Week user box on my user page and there's now a nasty big red-link instead of a link to the nomination page (or whatever). So something is wrong with the code and I don't know what. Could you please take a look and maybe fix it? I've also left this note on the last couple of editors who've edited this userbox. Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 03:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * You can see mine at User:Shearonink. Shearonink (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
 * It looks like Nardog identified that the date was off by one and fixed it for you. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:10, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Kaitlyn Lawes changes to page
I’m trying to edit Kaitlyn Lawes Wikipedia page because there are errors I noticed on it. She is a curler and I know they are errors because I follow this sport very closely. I would like to make the changes but can’t because the site is protected. The changes I’m trying to make are the following: the current Curling Club is St. Vital CC, it should be Fort Rouge CC. This is the link to the incorrect info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Vital_Curling_Club this is the link to the info i want the incorrect info replaced https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Rouge_Curling_Club and finally the link to the site the changes need to be made on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaitlyn_Lawes Ian kerwin (talk) 04:22, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Ian kerwin: Hi there! As you were advised at Teahouse, the proper place to make the request is the article's talk page: Talk:Kaitlyn Lawes.  If you prefer, you may find it easier to use the Edit Request Wizard.  Thanks, and happy editing!  GoingBatty (talk) 04:39, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Saenzice (09:32, 5 March 2023)
Hello --Saenzice (talk) 09:32, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Please let me know if you have any questions. Happy editing! &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 09:34, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from NatwonTSG2 (21:56, 12 March 2023)
how to make a great youtuber page --NatwonTSG2 (talk) 21:56, 12 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @NatwonTSG2, first, determine whether or not the YouTuber is notable. If they are, model it off similar articles and go by the advice at Help:Your first article. Hope that helps! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 22:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Candide1993 (03:00, 16 March 2023)
Hi, I've been mostly editing the article on my favorite art forger, Tom Keating. I'd like to add an infobox, like most articles of famous people have. I used a template I found somewhere, but it's woefully incomplete. Can you help me learn how to add a complete infobox, at the top upper right of the page, like for example, the one on the page for the artist Samuel Palmer? --Candide1993 (talk) 03:00, 16 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Candide1993! Thanks for helping improve that article!
 * For infoboxes, the first thing you want to decide is whether or not you truly want to have one. This is largely a matter of personal preference, and it's actually a fairly disputed topic in the nerdy world of Wikipedians. There's an essay, Disinfoboxes, that explains some of the reasons you might not want one, and at the bottom of it is a list of refutations that argue why you do want one.
 * If you do want one, it should always go in the intro section; I moved it to the right spot for you. You also want to use the most specific infobox available that fits best, which in this case is probably Infobox artist (alternatively, there's Infobox criminal). Clicking on those links will go to the template's documentation, which explains all the parameters you can add to fill them out. As for how to do that, if you're using VisualEditor, just click on the infobox and go through the menu there. If you're using the source editor, copy and paste the code at Template:Infobox_artist and fill it out.
 * Feel free to let me know if you run into any snags and I can help. I'm also going to leave a more general welcome message at your user talk page. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:30, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Sdkb,
 * Thanks for moving the (still woefully inadequate) infobox up on Keating's page (I wanted to, couldn't figure out how).
 * I very much enjoyed the Disinfoboxes essay, and most of the refutations. As a longtime user of wikipedia, and an occasional graphic designer, I think an article about a person without an info box looks like a draft, incomplete. I guess I've just come to expect them. I'm also persuaded by the arguments for giving a quick overview, with an image––nicely framed, in a box––to the people (and algorithms?) who want that. I could imagine an article becoming cluttered with boxes that overtake and distract from well-written text, but I don't recall ever seeing one.
 * I do strongly dislike redundancy, anywhere. I wonder... Is there any reason not to remove from the intro section anything that is put into the infobox? Candide1993 (talk) 22:18, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi,
 * I've done a tentative attempt at eliminating or reducing redundancies between Keating's infobox and the first two sections of the article, vis-a-vis birthplace, birthdate, and death date. Is this acceptable? --Candide1993 (talk) 00:50, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Re redundancy, I think you'd probably find different schools of thought about that if you talked to different editors. Personally, I feel that the text of the lead of an article should always be able to stand alone, so I'd be hesitant to remove info from it, even if it also appears in the infobox. But others might differ on that. (You're probably sensing a theme about how consensus works here...) Nice job filling out the infobox! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 02:58, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Re redundancy, I think you'd probably find different schools of thought about that if you talked to different editors. Personally, I feel that the text of the lead of an article should always be able to stand alone, so I'd be hesitant to remove info from it, even if it also appears in the infobox. But others might differ on that. (You're probably sensing a theme about how consensus works here...) Nice job filling out the infobox! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 02:58, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

Working on Unionization
Hiya, just wanted to let you know I've started working on an article about Unionization at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Unionization. Your notice on the rewards board inspired me! I can't say how much time I will be able to consistently devote to Wikipedia in the coming weeks, so it might be a long process. Please let me know about any feedback you have at any point :) Actualcpscm (talk) 16:03, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Fantastic to hear, @Actualcpscm! Good luck! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 17:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sdkb#Userboxes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sdkb#Userboxes "Industry Overview: Journalism and Publishing". Wet Feet. Archived from the original on 2016-08-17. Retrieved 2016-07-29￼ 174.240.250.172 (talk) 03:10, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:32, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Candide1993 (06:05, 17 March 2023)
How do I italicize the last the last four words in Keating's infobox? "The Haywain in Reverse" is the title of a painting, so should be written in italics. --Candide1993 (talk) 06:05, 17 March 2023 (UTC)


 * @Candide1993, ah, the fields within the infobox are all going to be written in source text, which has its own markup. The markup for italics is two apostrophes, so e.g.  will produce Candide. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124;  Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:37, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks!
 * Is their a visual editor template for citing AV media? I found and tried the technical code version but instead of looking like this (which magically appeared when I pasted it here)...
 * it just added the raw code (see citation [8] at Tom Keating's article).
 * Also:
 * I assume website citations are archived, or retrieved dates noted, to reduce dead links. Where's the best place to learn more about this? Candide1993 (talk) 16:42, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Candide1993, the VisualEditor unfortunately doesn't currently support Cite AV media. You'll find that the VisualEditor doesn't support a lot of more advanced features; most experienced editors use raw source text (aka wiki markup) editing most of the time. It's not too hard to learn — WP:CHEATSHEET has the basics.
 * Regarding archiving, indeed! The best place to learn about that is WP:Link rot. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Regarding archiving, indeed! The best place to learn about that is WP:Link rot. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:48, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Candide1993 (14:52, 21 March 2023)
Hi Sdkb, In the Help:Page history article I found the following: ‘It is possible to restore an old revision of a page by following the link to that revision, clicking "edit" and then saving. This should be done with caution, as it means that all changes made to the page since the time of that revision will be undone.’ But the version previous to such a sweeping act of destruction is still retained, so easily restorable, right? --Candide1993 (talk) 14:52, 21 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Candide1993! Yes, that's correct. Page histories are always retained, even if you revert to an earlier version. The note is there because we want to make sure that beneficial edits aren't caught up in a reversion of deleterious ones. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 15:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Candide1993 (03:04, 22 March 2023)
Hi Skdb, I remember seeing a strongly worded recommendation to not post links to YouTube do to high probability of copyright issues. How about if I just mention that they are "available on YouTube", or "online, for free." If it's only a potential liability for me, I'm not too worried about this particular example. The Channel Four television shows Keating made were aired and released on VHS in 1982 and 1983 for zone 2 only (UK, Europe), and they've never been released on DVD or any other format since. They've been on YouTube for 10 years now, with no apparent complaints. They are educational programs by design. I strongly suspect that state-owned, public broadcast Channel Four doesn't care if any one uses them anyway they like. "The public service remit for Channel 4 is the provision of a broad range of high quality and diverse programming which, in particular: makes a significant contribution to meeting the need for the licensed public service channels to include programmes of an educational nature and other programmes of educative value." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_4 Tom Keating On Painters https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tom+keating+on+painters --Candide1993 (talk) 03:04, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Candide1993! Where are you considering adding the links or mentions? For something like an external links section, WP:COPYVIOEL may be what you saw. I would not link to something like the TheArtyBartfast videos. They're not from Channel 4, so they're very probably copyright violations, and linking to them is not the look we want, even if YouTube has failed to flag them yet and Channel 4 might not care. There are two places I would check to see if they're available legitimately. The first is Channel 4's website, and the second is Archive.org's video library. Beyond that, we'd be pretty much out of luck. Depending on the circumstance, you could try citing the videos without linking to them (instead using any sort of ID numbers they might have). Or you could include a line in the article like "Keating made several TV shows for Channel 4," cited to any reviews that the shows got. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
 * I just sent this message to Channel Four.
 * Hi,
 * I've been researching the life story of famous art forger Tom Keating for many years. I'm currently doing a major revision/expansion of his page on Wikipedia. Given the educational nature of the series, I'm wondering if Channel 4 might consider licensing them to Wikimedia or The Internet Archive  so that Wikipedia articles could link them, and the many thousands of students he's inspired over the past forty-plus years could continue to use his instructive tutorials to teach new students how to 'paint like the Old Masters.'
 * For now, how about I just say "Both series were released on VHS in 1983. Though no longer available to purchase, many continue to view them online to use as tutorials for art students young and old." Candide1993 (talk) 02:48, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Pete Sutherland
BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

Human history template
My dear Sdkb, how are you? Any new projects recently? I just published List of Chinese monarchs to the mainspace, so think I will stay away from lists for at least a few months now :)

Any idea how to fully expand Human history template on the Human history article? I was looking at the template code but not sure myself...  Aza24  (talk)   19:37, 23 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Aza24; always lovely to hear from you! Wow, that is an impressive list; are you thinking of FLCing it?
 * For my recent projects, as a mini-project Thriley and I had a DYK entry for Vermont folk musician Pete Sutherland appear earlier today. I've been working with BrokenSegue to implement a system in which subscriber counts in Infobox YouTube personality get updated automatically rather than manually, and we just launched an early version of it last night. And there has been lots of ongoing usability collaboration with the WMF; for instance, the Growth team may take on a project later this year to improve the article creation experience for new editors, working toward something like my vision for a better article wizard.
 * Now, to Human history...Looking at the template code, it would seem that should do what you want, but...it doesn't. I'd try asking at WP:VPT or a similar venue to see if any sidebar experts want to dig into it and find the problem.
 * Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 20:06, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Definitely aiming for FLC, but first PR!
 * Trying to help the learning curve for new editors is a great place to put your attention. I recall having so much mindless try and error when I began WP, not really ever knowing where to start. It would be great to yet the YT subscribers update going as well... every once and a while I update David Hurwitz (music critic)'s subscribers, part of my music critics project, but it has always seemed like a rather silly thing to do manually.
 * I've left a comment at Village pump (technical) –  Aza24  (talk)   02:48, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from WaleedZreaqat (14:16, 24 March 2023)
how do i create an article --WaleedZreaqat (talk) 14:16, 24 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @WaleedZreaqat! Creating an article is difficult, so I'd recommend trying your hand at other tasks first. When you're ready, see Help:Your first article. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 14:27, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Question from Frogbend (07:10, 29 March 2023)
hey, i made a change on the Pegasus console page, it was 1990s but that was incorrect so i changed it to 1980s, can i do that? --Frogbend (talk) 07:10, 29 March 2023 (UTC)

Good Job!
A "good job" to you for understanding humor. A lot of these joke pages just about equate to "random=funny". Panini! • 🥪 13:36, 30 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, @Panini! I was surprised something like Humor editnotice didn't already exist, and I could use help adding it to more pages where it's relevant if any occur to you or others! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 15:28, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Sdkb Dumb question, but how? It's been a while.
 * As you've probably seen I've been expanding on the Buying Wikipedia lore. The original massive block of text I added was to help with the "no" punchline, but another editor expanded on it with the whole Jerry the burger flipper schtick. They put in a lot of effort (they made a whole other article) and I wanted to Yes, and that. I'm building a lore around it.
 * You reckon I'd get in trouble if I made some fake user pages designed to look like real ones for lore's sake? I would declare on the page that its all humorous. I just want to know if I would get in any trouble if I made a fake "User:" page for a fake person. Panini!  • 🥪 17:12, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Adding editnotices currently requires the template editor flag (more due to technical limitations than to an actual need to restrict the right); I can add it to any pages you flag. It also might or might not be possible to get it to display automatically on any page that transcludes Humor (with a parameter to opt out); remind me to look into that...
 * As for humorous user pages, personally my golden rule is that, so long as it's properly tagged/disclosed (which for a fake user page would mean noting in the tag that the user is not real), it's fine. But I can't speak for others. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 17:25, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
 * @Sdkb I walk so you can run; got in trouble with Liz. Wikipedia doesn't allow user pages for users that don't exist, humor or otherwise. Now you know what not to do for your April Fools prank tomorrow. Panini!  • 🥪 12:50, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh, and about your edit notice: I'm logging all of the Buying Wikipedia branches at User:Panini!/sandbox6, so those are all of the ones that would need that edit notice if you care to keep up with it. I thought about showing off the work at WP:APRIL2023, but that would risk a bunch of people looking at it (and most definetely editing) while on an april fools high. I like the edits from others, but you know how random the april fools crowd can get. Panini!  • 🥪 03:13, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

April 2023
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although every user is expected to be civil, it seems that you are being too friendly. Please use Jimbo Wales' user page for any test "friendliness" you might have, and our guideline to when you have to be serious, even when sleeping. Thank you  No problem. Opal&#124;zukor (discuss) 05:28, 1 April 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #25
Welcome to the twenty-fifth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

Celebrations
Leveling up release


 * We released Leveling up features to our pilot wikis on March 22 for an initial A/B test.
 * In this test, we use post-edit dialogs (pop-ups shown after publishing an edit) and notifications to encourage new editors to try new types of newcomer-friendly suggested edits.
 * We are closely monitoring the short term impact of this feature as well as the longer term effect on newcomer productivity and retention. If the experiment shows positive results, we will release this feature to more wikis.

5,000+ images added via the newcomer task in February


 * In February 2023, 5,035 images were added via the newcomer “add an image” feature (on all wikis where available); 155 were reverted.
 * Since the feature “add an image” was launched: 36,803 images have been added; 2,957 images were reverted.

Recent changes

 * Add a link
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Question from Candide1993 (19:38, 1 April 2023)
Hi Sdkb, I'm hoping you can help me learn how satisfy the copyright issues for donating to wikipedia several images which were taken in the 1960s and 1970s by a friend of mine, Michael O'Kelly. He was a student and friend of Tom Keating for over ten years, from 1963 to 1974. He granted me permission to add the photo of Keating's self portrait to the infobox. This photo was deleted by https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Philafrenzy https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Self_portrait_of_Tom_Keating.jpg Philafrenzy has not responded to my requests to learn how to address his copyright concerns. He has replaced the self portrait image with another copyrighted image, apparently modified to comport with 'fair use.' This low-res image is incorrectly captioned. It could not have been taken in the 1960s. In fact it was clearly taken during the filming of the 'Renoir' episode of Keating's Channel 4 TV series, in 1983. --Candide1993 (talk) 19:38, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Candide1993! Nice to hear from you, and sorry to hear of the image frustrations.
 * For getting help from Philafrenzy, I notice that you didn't ping them in your replies at the deletion nomination page. Many patrollers make dozens of deletion nominations every time they edit and may not follow each one, so they may just not have seen your replies. To ping them to get their attention, just add a comment that uses.
 * Regarding donating the images to Wikipedia, it's fantastic that O'Kelly has agreed, but the proper process is unfortunately a little complex. He needs to directly write to the volunteer response team releasing the photos. This wizard can help craft the email; what I would do if he's not computer-savvy is to fill out the wizard yourself as if you were him, and then send him the language it generates for him to email. Sorry it's so convoluted; I wish it were simpler, but this way does verify that it's truly him releasing the photos.
 * For the particular photo of Keating's self-portrait, I have additional bad news. In order to comply with copyright, both the photo itself and the underlying work need to have valid licenses. For a photo O'Kelly took of a Keating painting, O'Kelly emailing the volunteer response team would validate the license for the photo, but not for the underlying painting. That license would be held by Keating's estate, so they would need to release it.
 * Lastly, on the erroneous date in the caption of the fair use image, it looks like that came from the National Portrait Gallery description. I've tagged it with dubious, but I would reach out to the NPG to have them correct it on their end.
 * Best, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 23:46, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Sdkb,
 * Thanks for the ping tip, another new one for me.
 * Philafrenzy did thank me for expanding the intro section to act as a summary of the entire article, and then presumably removed the box notice suggesting this was needed.
 * Thanks for the wizard. It looks like I should be able to figure it out.
 * Incidentally, most of the Keating paintings (and drawings, sketchbooks, and letters) O'Kelly has photos of were gifts to his sister from Keating, which became part of her estate, which she bequeathed to him when she passed in 1991. He also has a half dozen paintings and drawings which Keating gave directly to him. So he should be able to release any of these, right?
 * For now I plan to replace the underwhelming infobox image with a photograph which actually is from the 1960s, of a younger Keating (sans beard) that Michael took in his own living room (once we sort out the licensing).
 * Lastly, please advise on how to change the birth and death dates in an infobox to the proper day/month/year format. I looked this up, and tried my best, with source code, with no luck.
 * Cheers, Candide1993. Candide1993 (talk) 22:44, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Candide1993, on the gifted paintings, I think probably? It would depend on if the copyright was transferred in both cases. It normally is, but not always — we've had people try to add photos of their own wedding only to realize the copyright is still with the photographer! Media copyright questions is the place where people more knowledgeable about these things than me hang out, so you can always try asking there. And again, sorry copyright is such an impenetrable morass (we can thank Disney's lawyers haha).
 * Changing the birth/death dates to DMY format is thankfully much easier — I went ahead and did so here. I figured out how by checking the documentation, which describes the necessary parameter here.
 * Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 14:56, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Sdkb,
 * O'Kelly sent two images using the wizard you sent, to [mailto:photosubmission@wikimedia.org photosubmission], via email, with the images attached.
 * He received the following reply, asking where the images have been uploaded:
 * From: Photo Submissions <[mailto:photosubmission@wikimedia.org photosubmission@wikimedia.org]>
 * Date: Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 4:21 AM
 * Subject: Re: [Ticket#2023040510010911] release of content attached to this email
 * To: michael kelly <[mailto:mokart50@gmail.com mokart50@gmail.com]>
 * Dear michael kelly,
 * Thank you for your permission to use media file(s) on Wikimedia Commons.
 * For us to process your contribution(s), we need to know the specific name or link to the page(s) on Wikimedia Commons to which you have uploaded them.
 * If you have not yet uploaded, please continue to upload the file(s) and let us know when done.
 * If the file(s) were deleted, please do not attempt to re-upload them; they will be automatically restored by an administrator upon successful confirmation of permission.
 * Sincerely,
 * Alfred Neumann
 * Where (to which page) should he upload them? Candide1993 (talk) 23:55, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

Your draft article, User:Sdkb/Dupont Circle CVS escalator


Hello, Sdkb. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Dupont Circle CVS escalator".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 00:29, 7 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, Sdkb,
 * This page will keep being deleted every 6 months if it goes unedited as long as it has AFC tags on it. The AFC tag is interpreted by the bots listing expiring drafts as indicating the page is a draft that is to be submitted or has been submitted. Liz Read! Talk! 00:32, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * That page is on my watchlist. I think it's one of the funnier April Fool's jokes that's been done on the 'pedia. I hope it's restored. – Novem Linguae (talk) 00:48, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Liz, thanks for the note. The AfC tag on the page included yes, so it should not have been deleted. Could you please restore it, along with User talk:Sdkb/Dupont Circle CVS escalator and redirect Draft:Dupont Circle CVS escalator? Apologies for the inconvenience, but the tools ought to respect the demo tag (which prevents categorization and is explicitly intended for dummy uses like this). Best, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 05:43, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know much about these altered tags and how they work. But I can restore these pages for you. Liz Read! Talk! 00:57, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I substituted out the template, which should hopefully resolve the issue for six months from now. For any other demo uses of the template, I believe @SD0001 runs the bot that creates the list of expired drafts you presumably used, so he might be able to fix it so that it respects yes and does not include those uses in the list. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 15:45, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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Orphaned non-free image File:Evylena Nunn Miller.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Evylena Nunn Miller.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

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 * Thanks for finding a free image to use instead, @Howcheng! &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 21:09, 20 April 2023 (UTC)

Need blind category
Categories should be supported by reliably sourced content in the article. I quickly looked at some of your additions, and I think some of the articles don't have that content. If so, please add the sourced content, or remove the category. Also, note that adding a category is not a minor edit. See WP:MINOR. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 23:22, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Sundayclose; thanks for reviewing the edits adding the category and for the note!
 * Yes, you are correct that adding a category is not a minor edit; I realized about half way through the run that I'd accidentally left the minor edit box checked (the AWB default) and unchecked it for the remainder.
 * Regarding mentions in the article, I think that every need-blind institution certainly ought to have that fact mentioned in its article. Most hopefully already do, but alas many college articles are very incomplete, so I'm not too surprised to hear that some don't. Please feel free to add mentions to those; the list at Need-blind admission has sources for most (and is what I used as the basis for the category members).
 * Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 00:53, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Not to be argumentative, but the burden to provide reliable sources is on the editor who makes the edit, which is you, not me. As I said, you should either add the sourced content, or remove the category, per WP:V. Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 00:56, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Just let me know which articles you noticed that don't included sourced mentions, and I'll go add citations to them. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 01:03, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * No, again, the responsibility is on you. You made the edits. You should have checked the articles for proper sourcing before adding the category. No offense, but please don't try to shift the responsibility here. Sundayclose (talk) 01:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I think many editors would interpret WP:BURDEN to require that one specify which edits are being challenged. Overall, please remember that Wikipedia is a work in progress, and as such incremental improvements (including valid categorizations) are helpful. Decrying such improvements unless they also come along with the much more intensive work of modifying article bodies has the practical effect of demolishing the house before construction has even begun.
 * With that said, for this case, since I have an interest in the topic area, I've begun going through the 60-odd articles in the category and adding sentences about need-blind status. This work will take some time (many of the institutions currently lack an admissions section entirely, so the basic structure of that will need to be added as well to provide an adequate frame), so your patience is appreciated. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 03:09, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * I've tried to not be argumentative here, but you've made one excuse after another to shirk your responsibility. First you tell me to add the sourced content, even though you added the categories. Then you tell me I should do your job for you, cull through dozens of articles looking for a citation, and let you know which articles are not properly sourced. And now you're distorting WP:BURDEN to try to avoid responsibility. BURDEN doesn't say that others must tell you which of your mass additions of a category are not properly sourced. Instead it states: "All content must be verifiable. The burden to demonstrate verifiability lies with the editor who adds or restores material." BURDEN applies for all edits, not just those that someone has bothered to challenge. And that's especially true if someone points out to you that your mass additions of a category includes articles that don't have adequate sources. If that's not enough to convince you, WP:CATV states: "It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories." If you had time to indiscriminately add a category to dozens of articles, you had time to do a quick check to see which articles had proper sources for the category. However, I do appreciate you finally working on the problem you created. Sundayclose (talk) 13:58, 3 May 2023 (UTC)

Circling back to note that I have completed adding sourced mentions of need-blind status to every institution added to the category that didn't already have them. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 22:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your work adding need-blind admissions info to college and university articles

 * Thanks, ! Definitely glad to have the info now there. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 22:24, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

User page
Thanks for the information. I did not want to cause any major problem intentionally, especially over something as small as a user page that was not getting many pageviews anyway. That was just a personal preference to help myself and any one who stumbled upon it. Rules are rules. Guidelines are guidelines. They exist for a reason. The page has been changed. Just let me know if anything else needs to be done. Red Director (talk) 14:10, 7 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Red Director! I left a Barnstar for you as a token of appreciation. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 02:10, 9 May 2023 (UTC)

New message from Kiran891
Mass addition of endowment values to Wikidata Kiran_891  (TALK) 03:22, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Much thanks, ! I've never gotten that template quite to a point where I feel it would work well in the wild, as there's a certain amount of stigma associated with using any user warning template, and it seems like overkill for what is (generally, hopefully) an innocent mistake. But I appreciate the recognition of the effort, and I hope it'll at least offer some possible wording to those looking to write a personal note. And maybe in the future there will be a cultural or design shift that makes it easier to use user warnings more gently. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 15:44, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

For the record...
... I didn't delete any sections at The Daily Campus; you're misattributing the edit. – . Raven .talk 03:41, 25 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Oops, thanks for the correction! I wish those automatic edit summaries were a little more sensical. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 03:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)

Template:Vital article TfD closed
Hi Sdkb, I've just closed the long TfD regarding Vital article against your proposal to merge to Talk header. Unfortunately, editors were vague on their alternative preference, so the topic is ripe for future proposal (WPBannerMeta-ify and move with other WP templates? Add text to the actual WP Banner shell as you explicitly suggested?). Anyway, I just wanted to pop by to let you know, and to say that I appreciate your creative efforts to deal with these banners. The Talk header icon idea was clever, and I personally quite liked the look; I hope the fact that this particular idea wasn't endorsed by the group isn't too discouraging, and that you'll keep at it. All the best, Ajpolino (talk) 15:20, 27 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the close and the note, @Ajpolino! As much as it would've been simpler to have a more direct result, I agree with your reading that many !voters were ambiguous about what they meant by "merge". I'll open a follow-up discussion to help clarify that, and ping you/the participants. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 17:22, 27 May 2023 (UTC)

Growth team newsletter #26
Welcome to the twenty-sixth newsletter from the Growth team! Help with translations

One million Suggested Edits
We passed the 1 million Suggested edits milestone in late April!
 * The Suggested edits feature (AKA Newcomer tasks) increase newcomer activation by ~12%, which flows on through to increased retention. (source)
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Positive reinforcement
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Add an image

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Remove User:Pahunkat from mentors
Please do so, Pahunkat hasn't been answering their talk page questions. Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 02:31, 4 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Sungodtemple! (my mentor, lol!) The list of mentors is at Special:ManageMentors, and it's editable by admins. I'm not an admin, but you could I think submit an edit request at Wikipedia talk:Growth Team features/Mentor list. Thanks for spotting the issue and working to resolve it. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 21:48, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh wait. I made a section on WT:GTF about the problem, then automatically thought you were an admin. Sungodtemple (talk &#8226; contribs) 01:49, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
 * A flattering mistake :) &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 02:08, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Tu it to man (09:43, 5 June 2023)
Can I copy some of the sentence from other Wikipedia page for editing --Tu it to man (talk) 09:43, 5 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Tu it to man! Yes, you can copy from other Wikipedia articles, but you need to note that you have done so in the edit summary for licensing reasons. See WP:Copying within Wikipedia. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 14:55, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

WP:BLP1E
You should read it before invoking it. Walt Nauta clearly fails #3. The single event he is associated with is significant, and his role is both substantial and well documented. Toddst1 (talk) 23:48, 9 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note, Toddst1. I have indeed read BLP1E, but I disagree with your interpretation — Nauta was a valet for Trump, not exactly John Hinckley Jr.. There are plenty of eyes on the topic area right now, so the best way to cover will be sorted out in due time. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124;  Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 02:59, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023
Hello , Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by  and  with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

Redirect autopatrol: All administrators without autopatrol have now been added to the redirect autopatrol list. If you see any users who consistently create significant amounts of good quality redirects, consider requesting redirect autopatrol for them here.

WMF work on PageTriage: The WMF Moderator Tools team, consisting of, and also some patches from , has been hard at work updating PageTriage. They are focusing their efforts on modernising the extension's code rather than on bug fixes or new features, though some user-facing work will be prioritised. This will help make sure that this extension is not deprecated, and is easier to work on in the future. In the next month or so, we will have an opt-in beta test where new page patrollers can help test the rewrite of Special:NewPagesFeed, to help find bugs. We will post more details at WT:NPPR when we are ready for beta testers.

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Hi, I’ve left a message here since you were the last editor at Template:User toolbox, and you might have more experience than me regarding it. Could you please see my talk post at Template talk:User toolbox. Thanks! Fork99 (talk) 22:36, 23 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Looks like CX Zoom took care of it; thanks for catching the bug! Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 00:31, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Question from Vmk3991 (22:15, 25 June 2023)
Hi Sdkb, I have published a page and its not visible in the search. Can you help? --Vmk3991 (talk) 22:15, 25 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Vmk3991. From your username, you appear to be writing about yourself, so see WP:Autobiography. You haven't published your sandbox draft; see Help:Your first article. New pages don't appear in search results until they're reviewed; see WP:Search engine indexing. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 00:28, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am an Independent artist and me and my team manage my page. What would be the next steps you would recommend? Or I would need help from someone to move this from Sandbox to main page. Vmk3991 (talk) 00:30, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
 * @Vmk3991, I'd recommend that you read the pages I've linked, which will give you all the instruction you need, instead of expecting me as a volunteer to do your job for you. We've written out plenty of guidance and are not going to hold your hand. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 00:39, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

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