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Invitation to Organize Wiki Loves Love 2019


Wiki Loves Love (WLL) is an International photography competition of Wikimedia Commons to subject love testimonials happening in the month of February 2019.

The primary goal of the competition is to document love testimonials through human cultural diversity such as monuments, ceremonies, snapshot of tender gesture, and miscellaneous objects used as symbol of love; to illustrate articles in the worldwide free encyclopedia Wikipedia, and other Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) projects. February is around the corner and Wiki Loves Love team invites you to organize and promote WLL19 in your country and join hands with us to celebrate love and document it on Wikimedia Commons. The theme of 2019 is Festivals, ceremonies and celebrations of love.

To organize Wiki Loves Love in your region, sign up at WLL Organizers page. You can also simply support and spread love by helping us translate the commons page in your local language which is open for translation.

The contest starts runs from 1-28 February 2019. Independent from if there is a local contest organised in your country, you can help by making the photo contest Wiki Loves Love more accessible and available to more people in the world by translating the upload wizard, templates and pages to your local language. See for an overview of templates/pages to be translated at our Translations page.

Imagine...The sum of all love!

Wiki Loves Love team

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Grant proposal review request
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Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:18, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

... and six --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:51, 23 April 2020 (UTC)

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ArbCom 2019 special circular
   

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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
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Wikipedia Asian Month 2019
Hi, since you were the organizer of last year, I would like to ask you to be the organizer this year. If you would like to be an organizer this year, please write you nickname on these pages: 1, 2. Thank you! Regards, Patriccck (talk) 15:08, 8 August 2019 (UTC)

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Invitation from WAM 2019
Hi WAM organizers!

Hope you are all doing well! Now it's a great time to sign up for the 2019 Wikipedia Asian Month, which will take place in November this year (29 days left!). Here are some updates and improvements we will make for upcoming WAM. If you have any suggestions or thoughts, feel free to discuss on the meta talk page.


 * 1) Please add your language project by 24th October 2019. Please indicate if you need multiple organisers by 29th October.
 * 2) Please update your community members about you being the organiser of the WAM.
 * 3) We want to host many onsite Edit-a-thons all over the world this year. If you would like to host one in your city, please take a look and sign up at this page.
 * 4) Please encourage other organizers and participants to sign-up in this page to receive updates and news on Wikipedia Asian Month.
 * 5) If you no longer want to receive the WAM organizer message, you can remove your username at this page.

Reach out the WAM team here at the meta talk page if you have any questions.

Best Wishes,

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A barnstar for you!

 * I hope you don't mind if I fork Cite Unseen and modify it to present information from the perennial sources list. Please let me know if you would like to collaborate instead, and I'll be happy to adapt the perennial sources list into a machine-readable format that can be used as a data source for Cite Unseen. —  Newslinger  talk   09:19, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much for the barnstar, ! That said, we're definitely open to collaborations. Let me tag here as well so he knows. :) (As for forks, it's all open-source anyway. :P) --Sky Harbor (talk) 17:07, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Hey would definitely love to collab on this! Perennial source identification has been on my radar to add into the script, so excited to hear you're interested in implementing it - it'd be great to collab and have it merged into master.
 * As you probably saw, the git repo for the project is here. index.js is the main script, and domain categorization objects are located in data/ (the script doesn't do much more than simply string-match domains). Once perennial sources are categorized in JSON format, it'll be easy to add icons for them. Let me know if this sounds all right or if you were thinking of another implementation.
 * Also, this is a total shot in the dark, but: if you happen to be nearby, WikiConference North America will be in Cambridge Nov 8-11, and both Sky and I will be there and hosting a session on Cite Unseen. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 18:06, 9 October 2019 (UTC)

Exciting! Let's do this!

I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to type up all of my thoughts before I had to take a life-related wikibreak last week. I didn't intend to leave you in the dark.

The WikiConference North America watchlist notice was actually how I found out about Cite Unseen. The presentations in the schedule look really interesting, and I'll definitely watch any videos that are released, but unfortunately, I can't make it to the conference in person. I hope both of you enjoy the conference!

It would be great if we could complete the perennial sources integration before your presentation, since this would make a nice example of community collaboration. (Please let me know whether this is a practical goal.) There are a few points that we have to figure out, and since there are three of us, I'm going to organize the discussion in sections to make it easier to follow. —  Newslinger  talk   19:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * No problem! Hope everything is all right re. life-related things. Personally capacity-wise I probably don't have too much time to devote to this prior to the conference, as both Sky and I are actually helping organize the conference itself. But regardless of whether or not perennial sources are integrated before the conference, we can always mention that there's a current community collab that is on-going, which will be exciting to discuss as-is. ~ Super  Hamster  Talk Contribs 07:25, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
 * That's totally fine, since having no deadline gives us more time to do things right. I hope the conference is a big success, and I look forward to watching the videos and reading the slides. —  Newslinger  talk   07:39, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Media Bias/Fact Check (MBFC)
After reading through your, I'm curious about where the data is coming from. Is all of the data from Media Bias/Fact Check ?

If that's the case, we'll have to somehow reconcile the fact that the English Wikipedia community considers MBFC generally unreliable, since it would be a contradiction to use a data source that classifies another data source as untrustworthy. Perhaps giving users a choice between: would resolve this, as Cite Unseen would show only one consistent group of data sources at a time. —  Newslinger  talk   19:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) Sources created by the community (including RSP and others, see below)
 * 2) Media Bias/Fact Check
 * 3) Other third-party sources (see below)

Perennial sources list (RSP)
JSON is exactly what I had in mind. Are there specific types of information you would be interested in, or would you prefer a full data dump of WP:RSP to JSON? Also, would you like the data organized in a particular way?

Each object, representing one entry from the perennial sources list, could look like this:


 * id (string): Anchor name of the entry on Reliable sources/Perennial sources
 * name (string): Name of source
 * article (string): English Wikipedia article name corresponding to source
 * aspect (optional string): Which aspect of the source the entry applies to (e.g. contributors)
 * aliases (optional array of objects)
 * name (string): Name of alias (i.e. nickname, abbreviation, former name, alternative name, name of parent company, or name of subsidiary)
 * article (optional string): English Wikipedia article name corresponding to alias
 * status (enumerated string)
 * " gr ": Generally reliable in its areas of expertise
 * " nc ": No consensus, unclear, or additional considerations apply
 * " gu ": Generally unreliable
 * " d ": Deprecated
 * blacklisted (optional boolean): If true, the source is on the English Wikipedia spam blacklist or the Wikipedia global spam blacklist
 * discussions (array of objects)
 * page (string): Name of page on which the discussion is located
 * section (optional string): Section name of discussion
 * label (string): Identifier for the discussion
 * For uninterrupted requests for comment on the reliable sources noticeboard, the year of the RfC
 * For other discussions on the reliable sources noticeboard, the numerical order of the discussion
 * For discussions outside of the reliable sources noticeboard, the order of the discussion represented by an alphabetical character
 * rfc (optional boolean): If true, the discussion is an uninterrupted request for comment on the reliable sources noticeboard
 * active (optional boolean): If true, the discussion is currently active
 * lastDiscussed (number): Year of most recent indexed discussion on the source
 * inProgress (optional boolean): If true, at least one of the discussions in the entry is currently active
 * stale (optional boolean): Entries are normally marked as stale when they have not been discussed on the reliable sources noticeboard for four calendar years. However, sources classified as generally unreliable are not marked as stale if they are identified as self-published or as a publisher of user-generated content. Whether an entry is stale can usually be calculated from the value of lastDiscussed, but in some cases, needs to be overridden by this value.
 * true : Entry is stale, regardless of the value of lastDiscussed
 * false : Entry is not stale, regardless of the value of lastDiscussed
 * summary (string): Summary of previous discussions
 * seeAlso (optional string): id of related entry
 * domains (array of strings): List of domains covered by the entry

This is too much information to show or use all at once, but the details (e.g. discussions, summary, etc.) could be revealed through tooltips.

Ideally, this data would be extracted by a bot and automatically updated on a regular basis once the parsing method is stable. I want to ensure that Cite Unseen has everything it needs from the extracted information, and I'm trying to make this as comprehensive as possible since the extracted data might also be useful for other tools in the future. —  Newslinger  talk   19:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Other data sources
After the perennial sources list, you might be interested in adding other data sources to Cite Unseen. Other lists of sources maintained by the community include:
 * WikiProject Albums/Sources (WP:A/S): Music-related sources
 * WikiProject Video games/Sources (WP:VG/S): Sources related to video games
 * The Wikipedia CiteWatch (WP:CITEWATCH): Questionable sources
 * New page patrol source guide (WP:NPPSG): Sources encountered by new page patrollers

Some of these lists aren't in a normalized format, and we would need to work with their maintainers to make the lists machine-readable.

There's also Ad Fontes Media's Media Bias Chart (MBC), which is occasionally referenced by editors on the reliable sources noticeboard. I'm not sure whether it's reliable, but it's better than Media Bias/Fact Check because it has a named staff, discloses its methodology, and reveals some of the data its ratings are derived from. Note that the perennial sources list conflicts with the MBC on some sources, so it wouldn't be a good idea to use both data sources at once. —  Newslinger  talk   19:36, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

2019 US Banknote Contest
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Uprisingengineer's submissions
Hey there. I've discussed this with over on Discord, but I'd like to hear your thoughts as well. I've noticed that has submitted several Russia-related articles to Wikipedia Asian Month. However, I noticed that in many if not most of these cases, the articles in question don't seem to involve Siberia, and the apparent links to Siberia or Asia in general can be peripheral at best. Do you have any ideas on how these articles can be addressed, and if they can still be accepted for WAM? I've held off accepting the articles for some time now for this reason. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 23:46, 19 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Hi, there! I was curious, too, about the seeming delay in my submissions.  Anyhow, you are right that I have submitted a number of Russian articles for "Wikipedia Asian Month."  Culturally, Moscow and "Western" Russia are called "European", but geopolitically, they are called "Asian."  The Wikipedia article on Asia places it between "Eastern Europe" and "North Asia" (although, East/North are not opposable coordinates), and when I google "Where is Russia", I am not even given a result, I am simply told "Asia."  I would like to say also that the WAM contest image includes Russia, but, as I now am closely examining it with a magnifying glass, I see "European Russia" cut out.


 * If I was making the call, we would study which tectonic plates, and not which "continents", people are on, as it would eliminate any ambiguity. India's "Indus" river is in the Middle East, and Russia's capital "Moscow" is in Europe.  But nobody has excluded India's submissions.  Seems like an odd way to do things. Just trying to air my opinion, thank you. Uprisingengineer (talk) 01:11, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Yume Wo Katare
Hello! Your submission of Yume Wo Katare at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! CeeGee 10:23, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

DYK for Yume Wo Katare
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