User talk:Spidey665

Final warning
Hi. I'm not  going  to  place an official  warning  template here, but  I  will  make one final  appeal  to  your better judgement. You have not  taken your previous block  on  board, and you  continue to  demonstrate a clear lack  of maturity  for collaborating  on  Wikipedia. Other admins have been very generous with  you, so please understand that  this has gone far enough, and if you  don't calm  down, you  will  be blocked indefinitely. Try do  do  some useful  work  here and understand that  this is not  FaceBook, a blog, or a forum, as I  have told you  before. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:22, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Username warning
As I suppose you're unaware, Mahboob is a relatively common Urdu given name. So you've informed this user that his likely actual name is obscene. Please be more careful in the future. --Danger (talk) 14:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Non-admin observations
Please don't place your observations inside someone's unblock request as you did here. Thanks ​—DoRD (talk)​ 00:50, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Also, if you'd bothered to check that IP's contributions, you'd see that they are clearly not the disruptive user that caused the range to be blocked. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 00:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Blocked indefinitely for lacking competence
Based on your editing patterns that continued in the last day, I have found no option but to block you for lacking the competence required to edit Wikipedia. Your actions in disputes with other users, inappropriate user name warnings, and inappropriate "non-admin observations" that have been pointed out on your talk page show this clearly. Your further edits in your own user space and others' shows you have not taken our warnings to focus solely on improving the project to heart. I highly suggest taking time away from Wikipedia to mature and then maybe coming back once you fully understand Wikipedia policies and how you can best contribute. I think that if you are to be unblocked, a mentorship program needs to be put in place...I will not agree to an unblock unless one is instituted (of course, other admins can certainly disagree and unblock, but I think it would be unwise to unblock without one in place). As always, you can request unblock through. Please take the words of everyone who's warned you to heart. only (talk) 00:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I fully  support Only's block  rationale. I  will also  be adjusting  this talk  page format  for better readability. Please do  not  blank or archive this page, block  notices must  remain  visible. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, please do! It'll make blue on blue so much easier to read!   Also, if you can, can you find a way to shift whatever is hiding in the top left corner below the Wikipedia logo?  only (talk) 02:52, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, I had just decorated my talk page to go with my signature. Spidey  665  21:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and commented out the header - the most expedient method I could think of. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 02:56, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I was planning on taking a break anyways. Can I come back in two weeks? I need mentorship anyways. Spidey  665  10:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Please remove this awful format  from  your talk  page, Because you  completely  fail  to  accept  advice and learn from the many  warnings you  have been given, I  do  not  consider you  to  have the required level  of maturity  to  be trusted to  anything  at  all on  Wikipedia. I further do  not  believe that  any  amount  of mentoring  will  elevate your maturity  to  the right  level. We can certainly, and willingly, show you how to  use Wikipedia, but  it is not  our job  to  make you  grow up, behave like a mature individual, and  accept  responsibility  for  what  you  do  here. Sorry, but do  come back in  a couple of year when you  are older. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:08, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I describe this block for being made because of Spidey being "enthusiastic, but too enthusiastic" to clean up the spam and vandalism from Wikipedia. This is a mistake commonly made by many. I was blocked on another wiki for a month for "trolling" myself because I wanted to make that wiki clear of the rude comments which are prevalent there – but I was doing it in an immature manner, just like Spidey did a little here – cussing, screaming in all caps, etc. I decided never to go back to that wiki until I was clear of the policies. Spidey may have to wait for a few years in order for Only to unblock him – but only time will tell. If he matures quickly enough, he may be released within next month. There is a 13-year-old trusted rollbacker and file mover who edits here – who edits with maturity, and many of us appreciate his work here.
 * I too made mistakes here, such as reporting a user named "Cockapoo207" because of his username "because of cock and poo" but I didn't realize what a cockapoo is. Every once in a while, I accidently press the trigger on huggle on edits that are not vandalism because of being too hasty - I am too trying to clear up my mistakes, which we all make. Life is a theatre of learning.
 * I endorse the block request be declined. -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   12:17, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Please note that I had a bad experience with wikis before I joined Wikipedia, because on a website called Wikia, I have been treated harshly by a person called daNASCAT, a staff member of wikia! He globally blocked me because I wanted daNASCAT to unblock B.wilson (then known as Bryce53) on Wikia. I currently have a lack of competence because daNASCAT does not know what harrassment is! I imagine he is a two year old. Spidey  665  23:24, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Attacking other people (Wikipedia members or not) while blocked is certainly not going to win you any favors here. your talk page is not the place to complain about what you believe to be harsh treatment on another website.  If you continue to use it for this reason, your page will be locked.  only (talk) 23:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

I am not quite doing it for that reason. Besides, you made a deal about solid mentorship. Let's start. I understand the situation. Spidey 665  23:41, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I made no deal. I said that if someone ever considers unblocking you, they should make sure a mentorship is in place before they unblock you.  You have made no indication that you understand the situation.  Please take some time away from Wikipedia for the time being.  You are not going to be blocked anytime in the next month, that's for sure.  only (talk) 23:48, 11 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I must say, the IP was blocked for a week. Spidey  665  23:53, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
 * So what? only (talk) 00:20, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Spidey, you still  do not  appear to understand that  the problem is  maturity,  as your arguments here clearly  continue to  demonstrate. Wikipedia is not  Wikia, FaceBook, or a blog,  and although we welcome younger editors, they  need to  demonstrate an adult  level  of collaboration and competence. Maturity  is not  something that  can be gained in  a day, and this block  is here to  stay. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:46, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I thought the problem was competence. I have put a block notice on the top of this talk page. Spidey  665  21:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Quite right - a lack  competence is often a clear sign of lack  of  of maturity, and I  remain  fully  convinced that  you  have not  understood these issues and are not at  all ready  to  work  on  Wikipedia. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:44, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Unblock

 * I had never asked for you to teach me to be mature, I would rather like to read more policies, guidelines and essays that could teach me how to use Wikipedia. Normally, I am mature, but I am just enthusiastic about getting in to bigger sites such as this. I would like another chance. Spidey  665  22:08, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
 * (Personal attack removed) --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 01:53, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


 * There is a user called "Fuckperry" and it is a violation of WP:UN. Please block him. Spidey  665  21:39, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Unblock
I won't evade anymore, there were simply some things I had to fix on pages. Spidey 665  22:05, 12 November 2011 (UTC)


 * (Personal attack removed) --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:23, 13 November 2011 (UTC)

Name hide
Delete my userpage, subpages, hide them, and hide all of my contributions so I can fuck off and make Kudpung happy. Spidey 665  21:31, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * (Personal attack removed) Rappy4178 (talk) 22:43, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I can delete your userpage and subpages, however don't think I can hide your contributions. Am fairly certain the only way to do that would be via the RevDel feature that we have and I can't do it that way as it would be abuse of the system.  Do you definitely want your userpage and subpages deleted?  I think I found them all, would just rather be 100% certain before I go and delete them.--5 albert square (talk) 23:45, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, please. I'm sorry, but I feel maltreated by Kudpung and I thought he was being rude. Spidey  665  00:34, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I must admit you are the nicest sysop on Wikipedia, 5 albert square. You deserve an award. Spidey  665  00:37, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah thank you Spidey, I dunno if I can delete your user page, didn't realise it had that notice on it before, but I'll delete your subpages--5 albert square (talk) 00:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, I think I got all your subpages, you might wanna check though just in case :)--5 albert square (talk) 00:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Could you please tell Kudpung that he was being rude to me. Thanks! Spidey  665  00:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Spidey, I genuinely don't think Kudpung was rude to you, I think he was just very blunt, partly because of the amount of unblock requests you made and partly because he had to keep repeating himself. I will however, make him aware of what you've said.--5 albert square (talk) 01:08, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I will mentor the user if he wishes. → Σ τ c. 02:26, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've just reviewed the situation (requested off-wiki), and I've got to say that if this is what passes for arrogance and incivility, yet the section titled "RE: Kudpung" does not, I don't see the value in unblocking. You'll find that many people here (myself included) have a very direct style of speaking, because anything less has a way of getting misunderstood in type; if you can't react to that without blowing up and tossing around accusations of bad faith, you won't get very far if you're unblocked.  I really think you should listen to what Kudpung has told you above; to convince us of your maturity, your best bet will probably be to come back and request a mentor in several months.  If you keep up the rapid-fire unblock requests, your talkpage will probably be locked by an admin less charitable than Kudpung.  And lest you think this is just a bunch of adults ganging up on you, I can assure you that I'm 21, so I'm not too much older than you.  The Blade of the Northern Lights  (話して下さい ) 05:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the words "but it looks if you can't read either" were insulting to Spidey - in all honesty, if someone told me that - even myself. It may have not been the nicest thing to say. But per you, blowing up and tossing around accusations of bad faith won't get Spidey very far, if he gets unblocked. It is also a possibility that his temper is uncontrollably ill or possibly short - like myself. I think age does not relate to maturity at all. There can be a 13 year old who may behave maturely, but even older people can behave worse. Similar to what we all learned in biology: "correlation doesn't equal causation". -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   09:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That's fair. The Blade of the Northern Lights  (話して下さい ) 14:11, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

RE: Σ
Σ, please do so. Spidey 665  23:15, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Unblock

 * Probably not needed, but this is a confirmation edit. → Σ τ c . 04:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It has also been agreed (over IRC) that Spidey665 will not edit a talk page unless he can show that the message is relevant to Wikipedia. → Σ τ c . 04:39, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * A ban on user talk pages would work. Spidey  665  04:40, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be impractical - how would we communicate? Anyway, you'll be visiting these pages for a while after your unblock.
 * Note to admin: I have created this, which should remind Spidey not to edit user talk pages like he did before. An admin can place  in his common.js. → Σ τ c . 06:43, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The mentorship may be a good idea - and I think it will benefit how Spidey will use . I hope Spidey's mainspace edit count will be increased after he is unblocked, and that socializing of his will only be done on Facebook. -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   10:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Just a note to say I'm having a quick look at this and will be offering some advice to Sigma on his talk page. I'm generally very much in favour of mentoring, and depending on Sigma's reaction, I will be willing to unblock - however Spidey, it would be a conditional unblock, which would involve Spidey scaling back on working in areas where his judgement is currently in question. I'll elaborate more soon. WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 11:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * It appears that the user, the mentor and the sysop are in agreement. Spidey  665  22:37, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * IRC discussions have no  authority whatsoever, and there is no such thing as an 'official' mentorship programme. I  maintain  my  position  that  the real  issue is one of maturity  that cannot  be resolved through  mentoring, and while  I  appreciate all  the efforts and the demonstrations of tolerance that  are being made by  the community, it  would be inappropriate to  interpret those words as being clearly  in  favour of an unblock just  yet - as he has still not addressed the reasons for the blocks (incompetence and use of the encyclopedia as a social network) and numerous declined unblock  requests (deleted).  .A period of mentoring  may  be able to  convince Spidey  that  Wikipedia is neither  a web forum nor a social  networking site. However, words such  as  kids, children, teenagers, young people are a matter of semantics, and carry  no  abuse whatsoever where I  come from. While the suggestion  of agreement  to  only  make postings on  talk  pages that are strictly relevant is a noble one, his  comments  should also  be phrased in  the manner of a civil adult, and  his language on  this talk page and his comments about  others give me pause.  I  believe he needs far more time for reflection on  his proclivities, and I  would suggest  that  mentorship  takes place on  pages he has legal access to  while blocked, and I'm  one sysop  who  is saying:  I  do  not  support unblocking  at  this time. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:00, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

BTW: Please do not  refactor my  comments to  turn them  into  uncivil statements that I have not  made -  what  you  have done is yet  another reason  not to  unblock  you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 07:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * While Worm and Σ are amongst the best mentors around, with regret I have to say I also Oppose the unblocking of Spidey665 at this time. His tone does not appear to have changed and he has shown no understanding of what he was doing wrong - I would like to see some evidence of understanding and addressing of the points made by Kudpung, above, before an unblock is considered. Is it possible for some sort of mentorship programme to take place here on his Talk page while he is blocked? -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:03, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Per Boing! said Zebedee. I advocate the idea of a mentorship programme taking place here or via IRC if it is possible. -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   10:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Keep me in the loop, I'd be willing to unblock if improvement can be shown. WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 10:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * He may improve - and I really hope so. -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   11:21, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

AIV
This is vandalism. Revert it. Spidey 665  23:26, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * For sysops: Inappropriate user name here. Spidey  665  23:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but you don't get to instruct people to make Wikipedia changes while you are blocked -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:57, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think "Willy bum bum" is a blatant violation of the username policy :P -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   10:10, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Talk page access
I've revoked your Talk page access as you were continuing to accuse other people of personal attacks - the inability to distinguish between forthright talking and personal attack is one of the issues you need to address before you edit any further here. If you wish to make any further requests for unblock, you will now need to email -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 20:41, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I've received your email apology for your latest action, and I can understand that you might have found some of the comments hurtful. However (and I honestly don't mean this as any kind of "you're just a kid" putdown), that is part of the whole "maturity" thing. We need to be able to talk to and listen to each other here, and be able to be frank and honest with each other - and we need to be open to constructive feedback.
 * Anyway, here's a suggestion... You're young and there's a whole world out there that you will barely have had time to explore yet. So spend a week completely away from Wikipedia - don't even point your browser this way - and after that I'll restore your Talk page access in case you wish to pursue longer term mentoring. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:57, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * However, I think the words "Poor Spidey" were rather insulting, am I wrong in that? -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   12:51, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, that was not constructive, and it could simply have been removed - but it was not that one that led to Talk page access being suspended. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:30, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. The user who said "Poor Spidey" has major conflicts with the targeted user and even myself. -- Bryce   Wilson  &#124;  talk   15:21, 19 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Apologies for leaving it a bit longer than I intended, but I have restored Talk page access -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 19:23, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * In my opinion you are one of the best admins here, Boing!. As opposed to a certain group of admins, you answer what people say, and understand those words to heart. Although you may disagree with certain users, even administrators, you are great and deserve to be a bureaucrat. Spidey  665  22:49, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed - that was nice of you :-) -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 01:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Spidey, please be careful what  you  say, your talk  page access has not been restored to  enable you  to  continue to rant  about  admins. Anyone reviewing  your situation  will  appreciate that  they  have only  be doing  their job  in  the best  interests of of the Wikipedia and yourself. Such  comments only  serve to  reinforce the issues of your maturity which  is why  you  have been blocked in  the first  place. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:46, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm not mad, but did I say who was in that group of administrators? The answer to that question is: no. Spidey  665  14:12, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Spidey, you're missing the point - talk page use when blocked is limited and ranting is something that is likely to get it revoked again. I'm sure that's something you don't want. Kudpung is absolutely correct in his comment and I think you should think carefully about why you just reacted like that. Kudpung, can I suggest you de-watchlist this page as your very presence does appear to be aggrevating Spidey - he clearly has difficulty even assuming good faith of your comments. <font color="#000">WormTT  &middot; &#32;(talk) 14:19, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I clearly understand what he says. Spidey  665  14:24, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Kudpung
No, I am beginning to realize he are here to educate me. Although he is a bit blunt, he is a great sysop. Spidey 665  22:14, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for Kudpung!
Great - what you need to do know is to address the block reasons so something great can happen to your account :) -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 01:05, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

If this is genuine (and I'm willing to believe it is), you're on the right track. The Blade of the Northern Lights (<font face="MS Mincho" color="black">話して下さい ) 04:48, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

Unblock request

 * Well, I'm not entirely convinced that people suddenly mature overnight at the exact moment they reach 18 ;-) But knowing you're 18 and supposed to act in a more adult manner helps, and I could support an unblock conditional on Spidey seeking mentorship and only editing under his mentor's guidance -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 12:50, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Per Boing! said Zebedee. I also think ensuring User:Only supports the idea before any action is taken should be done. We could unblock and see if there is any improvement in competency. In my opinion, there was only one simple reason why Spidey was blocked: Being too enthusiastic. He was excited to be an editor here, but rushed through the process, and clearly did not show much understanding of WP policies. -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 13:44, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed above, but maybe we can discuss some more, what do you think? Spidey  665  20:03, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

(reset indent) Replying to you, Bryce, I think maybe we can easily use voting for an unblock, similar to RfAs. Spidey 665  21:08, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Considering I JUST blocked Spidey on Simple Wikipedia not even two weeks ago for continuing to lack competence, there is absolutely no way I support any attempt to unblock here. only (talk) 22:51, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I was being such an idiot, you don't even have to forgive me. Spidey  665  22:09, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't be ashamed of yourself - mistakes like this are commonly made - the point is to learn from them. -- Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 00:32, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been monitoring this incident for some time and I thought I'd put some feedback in. Here's the thing about WP:OFFER. It assumes that there's going to be another WMF project you'll like. Eg: I would probably only like working at wiktionary or commons if I was forced to switch. In the same way Spidey may not like working at other WMF projects. My only concern is the Simple English Wikpedia incident. After Only gave you a message about the on strike rule, the first thing i wold have done would be to ask him about the policies of the wiki. If spidey can control themself then I'd be happy for them to be unblocked but if they were blocked again I probably wouldn't support their unblock request. --<font color="#006400" face="Garamond" size="3">Kangaroo <font color="#000080" face="Garamond" size="3">powah  03:32, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thing
In your own words, please explain what Wikipedia is. → <font color="#BA0000">Σ <font color="#036">τ <font color="#036">c. 03:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is a wiki encyclopedia, which combines a wiki and an encyclopedia, so it is basically an encyclopedia published by people all over the world. Spidey  665  22:44, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Excellent, now can you describe the five pillars and two or three other important policies of your choice? → <font color="#BA0000">Σ <font color="#036">τ <font color="#036">c. 01:44, 25 January 2012 (UTC)



Hey
heres the deal if you want to be unblocked then you must behave and remember wikipedia is not like wikia and also please read the rules before you make a unblock request im just saying i am sorry for what happened to you --AwesomeSponge (talk) 12:48, 10 February 2012 (UTC) P.S. if you want unblocked then you may have to make an unblock request first if they denied the request then thats ok try again next time

AwesomeSponge
Whoa.... how did this happen? In all honesty, I am not AwesomeSponge. I need help from a CU or admin to prove that I'm not him. I will even prove I'm not him, since I have CU access on my own wiki, where AwesomeSponge is. Spidey 665  21:10, 7 March 2012 (UTC)