User talk:Storye book/Archive 24

DYK for Hilda Annetta Walker
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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - February 2021
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15:35, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you, and you're welcome. I have searched the British Newspaper Archive for a mention of the Bell inn, Croydon, but found nothing. If you look at the commonscat, you'll see I found a couple of old photos of the Dog and Bull online, though. I'll keep looking. Storye book (talk) 19:04, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I think it is also used as a landmark reference point eg In the early 70s when the roads were being dug up for cable laying, a wall was found but it didn't quite extend as far north to the Dog and Bull. There is probably more to find. Whispyhistory (talk) 19:22, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Frances Emilia Crofton
—valereee (talk) 00:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK help at Sidney Hill
Would you be interested in a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Sidney Hill? I want to help, but I struggle with British English. Flibirigit (talk) 21:34, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Good to hear from you, and thank you for alerting me to this. I've just had a glance at it, and yes, I'd be happy to do it. Storye book (talk) 11:46, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

Picken's publication pickles
I hope you don't mind, but per your picking the bad Picken challenge on Template:Did you know nominations/Thomas Ashburton Picken, I had a look at the commons images. Taking File:Conflagration of both Houses of Parliament by Thomas Ashburton Picken (14).jpg as the bad Picken with poor spotting, is File:Gourd (BM 1859,0528.145).jpg a superiorly spotted Picken? The spots look much more organised and discrete. However, it has a face. Is that a bad face? Or is it an intermediate quality image, with the ones which look more like paintings being the really high quality spotted images? Thanks, CMD (talk) 12:58, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Hehe, you are putting me on the spot - I guess I dropped myself in it there. But I shall answer you with respect and in all seriousness, because I admire Thomas Picken (I have not studied his brother Andrew who was a good portraitist, and strangely I cannot find anything about his other lithographer bro James Picken's work at all). So I guess you are using the word "bad" in fun, because T. Picken was never bad at his job. Bearing in mind he was only about 16 when he created this one it's a heck of an achievement. It's an exciting fire, and the reflections on the water and the looming Abbey behind the conflagration are both wonderful. All three of those effects would be enough of a challenge at that age, let alone doing it successfully. He understands composition already - he has the rule of thirds, he has movement in the line of the smoke, he has strong light-dark contrast - not as much as Dore yet, but getting there. But best of all he has the contrast of the shocking destruction in the middle (movement), against the quiet permanence of the stuff around the edge (stillness): abbey, Westminster Bridge, water, that building on the left). I guess we must assume that he had help at that age, but nevertheless - respect. As for the spotting, as you call it, well it's a tiny engraving, and I apologise if my large scan misled you. And a young lad would be given a second-quality bit of stone to engrave on. Thus most of the "spotting" which you noticed would be Picken using the rather coarse but consistent grain of the stone. So none of this so far gives away his age and early stage of apprenticeship. So you're right to talk about people and faces. In this picture he has not risked doing e.g. a close-up onlooker in a bottom corner, because he clearly can't yet do people properly. Those figures are rather unpractised stick men (well, almost) whereas the buildings show some years of skill already.
 * So yes, now we need to differentiate this from a mature work. The gourd picture is a bit problematic because unlike the fire picture (which I scanned myself) it is a poor reproduction, and we cannot see the engraving clearly. But we can still see greater skill and professionalism. The gourd, leaves, boots, and so on, all show different engraving styles, to bring out different textures - whereas really the fire picture had only one texture if you look closely.
 * Re the faces - I have been thinking about this, and although we can never write it in the article (unless a citation comes along) I am beginning to wonder whether T. Picken, unlike his brother Andrew, was unable to create portrait faces of recognisable individuals because he did not want to look at faces. Having a great artistic skill while not being able to do recognisable faces might (or might not) put him on the autistic spectrum. That might also explain his sheer dedication and intense attention to detail, especially in the ship engravings. The face in the gourd picture might be OK, until you realise that you probably could not recognise the individual from that stylised face with the too-big eyes and 17th-century drawing technique. The face in the Dunfermline picture here does not work with the pretty, long blonde hair of the young woman, and contrasts strangely with the absolutely superb drawing of the wild vegetation. On the other hand, it's a mystery picture with a missing or hidden woodcutter, so the woman may be intentionally mysterious. it's ambiguous.
 * So the more I think about your question, whether serious or not, the more I see in Picken as an artist. His technique does mature, certainly. The 16-year-old could not have created the missing-woodcutter picture yet. There is probably a lot more to learn yet, from Picken's work. I just wish we had more good scans of it. Storye book (talk) 15:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * I looked too closely at too many commons file to not be serious! Although it's also good to have fun. I used "bad" in a relative sense as a shorthand for your "immature quality" (they are clearly all 'good' in an overall sense, as you imply). On your point about "different engraving styles", I did note that the Gourd image seemed to have greater variation in the way items were shaded and textured (while the fire photo seems to mostly create shading through thickness), which is why I took it as a more mature picture. I think you also make a good point about scan quality however, which I didn't account for before. I hadn't seen the Dunfermlin picture, as I only looked at Category:Images of England engraved by Thomas Ashburton Picken. That is a face in stark contrast to the rest of the image. I sympathise, I could never draw faces well myself within my (rather more limited) artistic endeavours. I very much appreciate your detailed reply and further pointers, this sort of learning is a great boon of the DYK process. CMD (talk) 17:08, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah, forgive me for wondering whether you were serious. That is OK. I have just uploaded a portrait by Thomas' bro Andrew Picken, for contrast of treatment of faces. File:Georgiana Freeling nee Oddie by Andrew Picken.png. I think I've seen other portraits by Andrew somewhere. I'll see if I can find some more later. Storye book (talk) 17:38, 13 February 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021
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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - March 2021
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13:00, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Frances C. Fairman
Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Thomas Ashburton Picken
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Kenwood Chef
Thank you for your message and talk with jarekt about the issue with picture of Kenwood mixer, you right I owner of Kenwood Chef Restore Ltd and Kenwood Chef Service Ltd. many of our pictures are on Instagram, Pinterest and our websites, understand need to source the original picture, I would do that and upload again or talk with jarekt about this

As you said before is correct, many information about vintage Kenwood models and specification is not on line due the age, the link provided just refer to one model A701/A im happy to provide extra information and source to complete the citation and to get all right with the accurate information, thanks again Alex1975uk (talk) 20:18, 20 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I shall copy this to your talk page, to keep the conversation together. Storye book (talk) 20:27, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021
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April editathons from Women in Red
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Removal of descriptions
Have you seen this? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 12:45, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I went through that editor's most recent set of 6 edits, one by one just now, and it seems OK at the moment. But please keep up your good work of monitoring this - thank you. Meanwhile it was great to see Sian Phillips still going strong at 87. What a trooper. Storye book (talk) 13:12, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 14:18, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes, what a star!

Modest flowers
Thank you for what you said on Yoninah's talk, - see also Wikipedia Signpost/2021-03-28/Obituary! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Gerda. And thank you for the obituary link - I hadn't seen it. Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 16:30, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive and create a worklist at WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

stroll to wildflowers
On this day in 1742, He was despised was performed for the first time, and when I wrote it in 2012, I didn't only think of Jesus. Andreas Scholl sang that for us, - You are invited to a Baroque stroll. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:46, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Wow, thank you! Storye book (talk) 15:57, 13 April 2021 (UTC)
 * More memories on the Main page today, Psalm 115 thinking of Yoninah, Christa Ludwig and Milva, - voices that made the Earth a better place. Sad that the psalm hook didn't appear on Earth Day as planned, but better pictured and late than going unnoticed ;) - Thank you for the review of the Psalm storey! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for giving me the opportunity. It's good to see it on the main page. Storye book (talk) 13:52, 26 April 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - April 2021
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11:36, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021
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May 2021 at Women in Red
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WikiProject Yorkshire Newsletter - May 2021
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11:50, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Arn Gill (North Yorkshire)
DanCherek (talk) 01:33, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK William Grainge
Hello! Your submission of William Grainge at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! 4meter4 (talk) 21:51, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Storye book (talk) 09:17, 14 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Alfred Tippinge
Hello! Your submission of Alfred Tippinge at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! BlueMoonset (talk) 14:14, 14 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Done. Storye book (talk) 09:04, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for William Grainge
Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:02, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021
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