User talk:Stuartyeates/Archive 2

Proposed deletion tag on Paradox (theorem prover)
I've removed the tag on that article, please look at the talk page for my reasoning.

Additionally I've taken a quick look through your contribs and you seem to be mass tagging a bunch of Free Software software articles using Twinkle. I don't have the time to go through and review each of them, but some are suspect like the one you did on SIMILE Timeline. I'm fairly positive given enough time folks (read myself) can dig up notability citations for these articles.

Of course not all of your taggings are questionable. Good work on tagging Edius. I'd almost lean towards that being deleted as an advertisement only. It is one of those borderline things :S.

Anyway I'll probably have to go through your proposed deletion taggings and remove the tags on those I feel can be sourced. My only problem is actually sourcing these takes substantially more time than automatically tagging them with twinkle and I'd ask that you give me sufficient time to attempt to demonstrate notability before tagging these with AfD tags. Thanks ——  nix eagle email me 02:46, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok, going through your WP:PROD taggings one by one.
 * The one on Quick.Cart is a good tag. I doubt Quick.Cart ‎is even Free Software based on the external links section having a "Buy" link. I've removed that link and left your tag.
 * Tag on Zoep is good and correct. Browser plugin is not even current for any modern version of Firefox. Version 1.5 of Firefox is ancient, no updates to the plugin since. However please note that had there been updates for this plugin, a case for notability can easily be made. As is due to the age of the software, I will not contest.
 * I have removed your tag on Softvol. This software is extensively talked about and used in the Free Software community based on a simple google search. However a merge into the ALSA article might be a good idea.
 * Your tag on IBM AIX Parallel System Support Programs (PSSP) is correct.
 * I believe the above are all of the software related PROD taggings you have done since September 3. I ask you leave me a few weeks time to provide notability citations for these as I do not have much time to put towards wikipedia these days.
 * Please understand that I've gone through your edits with the intention to point out where I've spotted possible errors. I hope the time I've spent doing so and explaining my reasoning for each tagged article is useful to you. Cheers! ——  nix eagle email me 03:10, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * It's entirely appropriate that you de-PROD articles which you think (in good faith) are notable, there is no need to apologise. It might be wise to replace the PROD tag with a notability or lacking-references tag, depending on the situation. Good luck improving them. Good luck showing SIMILE Timeline is notable independently of SIMILE too. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:40, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

debconf
Hi, can you please explain whats wrong with the debconf article? I don't understand why in this case there is needed another layer of "informationabstraction" (for example an magazine writing about debconf) when you can get the facts from debconf.org. (I'm not trying to argue, only to understand) - Thanks 87.162.94.8 (talk) 20:20, 12 September 2011 (UTC)


 * See Talk:DebConf


 * Thanks for the fast reply 87.162.94.8 (talk) 20:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

8BF
I have removed the prod tag from 8BF, which you proposed for deletion. I am leaving this message here to notify you about it. Please merge to Photoshop plugins. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the prod template back to it. Instead, feel free to list the article at Articles for deletion. Thanks! –89.204.136.53 (talk) 06:29, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
 * In progress now. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:06, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Layman
Since you participated in this recent AFD you might be interested in this follow up discussion.TMCk (talk) 14:42, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Web Services Resource Framework
Stuart. you tagged Web Services Resource Framework as self-published. I have started a discussion on that topic on the page, and would like to know your rationale. SteveLoughran (talk) 11:13, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review/Log/2011 September 13
wrote at Deletion review/Log/2011 September 13: "That is enough to meet WP:Music guidelines, and the obscurity of the artist in hand with the apparent bias of the article's challengers is really the issue here." As a participant at Articles for deletion/Common Dead, would you explain how you came to the conclusion that Common Dead fails WP:MUSIC? In other words, what was your opinion of the sources? This is essential to determine whether the article should be relisted or kept deleted. I am inclined to support relisting but am willing to be swayed if the "delete" votes did not consider the sources sufficient or reliable enough to establish notability. Cunard (talk) 20:22, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

List of free and open source software packages
You wanted to restructure this page. I am willing to help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Misha-strong (talk • contribs) 12:49, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Authority control issues
Dear Stuartyeates, after a long wiki break I started to implement "VIAF inter project linking". I was / am a technical admin at mi:, yi, eo:. My friend from Berlin who made the JavaScript is a Maori fan. So I linked some people see VIAF (you need to click twice because of a cookie) and PND. See the links at Category:VIAF inter project linking for the start of the work. I would appreciate fo get as much feedback as possible. commons:Commons:VIAF inter project linking is not widly announced yet. I like to understand the technical details and weeknesses (caused by incorrect / outdated data). Best regards ‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏[//meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/user_talk:%D7%9C%D7%A2%D7%A8%D7%99_%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%99%D7%A0%D7%94%D7%90%D7%A8%D7%98?action=history Th]‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 03:27, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Dear Stuartyeates! Thank you for your participatin in "VIAF inter project linking". I am using a very slow computer / internet connection. To follos / watch my contributions at LT you may use / adapt (with &startNum=&lt;numbere&gt;&stepNum=&lt;numbere&gt; ) the following links
 * user contributions user=296963
 * VIAF references: q=VIAF 1037 (some counted twice)
 * PND references: q=PND (less then) 239
 * SUDOC references: q=SUDOC 31
 * SELIBR references: q=SELIBR 30
 * I am not shure if you signed in to http://mi.librarything.com . You may send me private messages at /profile/gangleri#comments
 * This might interest you: /tag/Maori in my catalog, /tag/New Zealand, search=New Zealand (7,270 works)
 * Last days I worked mainly on quality issue see links at NOTES (you may bookmark test:category:Authority control)and adding missing Authority control records.
 * questions:
 * Did you use the latest version of the viaf.user.js Greasemonkey-Skript? Both the developer and me are interested in any feedback.
 * I've given feedback on the talk page and also rewrite the opening paragraph of the wiki page which seemed a little confused. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you investigate about contacts to OCLC / VIAF?
 * My day job is in a library. I also know a few OCLC staffers informally. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you establish contact to people involved in Authority control / Semantic Web issues in your country?
 * For Semantic Web stuff in .nz you probably want User:TimClicks. For authority control, I'm the techie behind http://authority.nzetc.org/ Stuartyeates (talk) 21:49, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * All the best! Gangleri 10:46, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Tamandua - A Brazilian Opera - about deletion and notability criteria.
Dear Mr Stuart Yeates,

I am not sure if this is the right place to send you a note. I am very interested in helping Wikipedidia, especially in fields where I have accumulated significant amounts of knowledge over many years. One area that I am especially fond of is the information about classical Brazilian composers. I met Mr. Villa Lobos personally, many years ago, as a child, I sung in one of his huge choruses. I have been following new works since an early age.

I am not quite an academic, but I have a passion for the topic and I have been attending concerts of the genre and reading classical reviews for more than 50 years, both in Brazil and in the USA. I have realized that I need to be more academic in my contributions to Wikipedia, if I want to clarify some misunderstandings that normally appear in Anglo-saxon publications about Brazilian culture in general. Nonetheless, I have been reading the sources and trying to comply with the standards at Wikipedia.

Regarding Tamanduá - A Brazilian opera: I cannot prove with complete certainty that it is the only work in Brazilian Portuguese ever produced in the USA. Yet I do believe it is the case as I can say that in all my research I could not find any other work that meets these criteria.

Please advice on how to proceed in this case.

Thank you very much for your kind attention.

Yours,

Humberto Giaccomo de Holanda Humbertoego (talk) 03:55, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Dean Wickliffe
Thanks for the note. Sorry about the edit conflict; I didn't see a banner at the top of the page, but that might be because I wasn't paying enough attention. TheMadBaron (talk) 12:25, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Kara Puketapu
Hi there, any evidence that the Kara Puketapu that coached the Hutt Valley side is Ihakara Puketapu as you linked on the 1995 Lion Red Cup page? If it is him, then good find! Mattlore (talk) 20:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The Kara Puketapu is Lower Hutt based (Waiwhetū) and has an established interest in sports. Other sources refer to him variously as Kara Puketapu and Ihakara Puketapu. There is a chance that it's a relation and/or mismatch, with relation more probably than mismatch I suspect. Stuartyeates (talk) 20:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * After a google I think it is fair to assume it is him. He was a "top rugby league player in his youth" so going from that it is fair to assume he was involved with the Wainuiomata Lions and then subsequently the Hutt Valley team. Might add some of that to his page later. Cheers! Mattlore (talk) 23:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
hydrox (talk) 17:40, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

WP:PROD
Hi, I noticed you have been prodding a lot of articles, but that you're "hit" rate has not been very high. Note that a lack of references or an article being orphaned for a while are not sufficient reasons for an articles to be deleted (even though they are often a good indicated that they should be.) Also, WP:PROD is only intended for "uncontroversial" deletions (i.e. where you reasonably expect to gat a unanimous consensus for deletion), not as a way to get out from under AfD. Cheers, —Ruud 10:28, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Melanie Rodriga
Hi Stuartyeates - first of all thanks for the editing on the page, your work has been very gratefully received (its my first Wiki page so I am learning as I go) - in regards to the "radical lesbian feminist" tag I have two reasons for deleting it: 1. I know Melanie well and even though (as you say) the subject has no say in an Wiki entry she feels that that label does not best represent her or her work (take into account the quote was given in the late 80's by Melanie's recollection and there has been a lot of ideological water under the bridge since then). 2. Melanie is best known for her filmaking, not for any other political activities - it makes as much sense to call Jane Campion a filmaker and a feminist on her page - many thanks for your attention, kind regards sammystuffed Sammystuffed (talk) 14:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll admit that I'd never heard of the subject prior to her article coming to my attention. Please not that wikipedia attempts to base it's articles on WP:RS rather than on personal knowledge. The "radical lesbian feminist" quote is from the opener of perhaps the most reliable source in that article. If the subject no longer self-identifies as such, I suggest that you find a source for that fact. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:45, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi Stuart - yes I will try to find a source but I also think its a matter of common sense too - the subject is a filmaker primarily - if she were a christian and made christian themed films that would be secondary to the achievement of making the films themselves - but I take your point and will try and find a published source - again thanks for your help -sammystuffed  Sammystuffed (talk) 02:05, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

A compromise?
Toward your comment at Articles for deletion/Jenna Rose (3rd nomination) that you feel her having multiple viral video releases and coverage since 2009 is somehow a BLP1E, might you feel an incubation for a few months might make sense, specially as the article NOW is in far better shape than it was when it was renominated 20 days after a keep. This should serve to allow continued collaborative editing and could hold of the expected drama when some "fan" tries to recreate the article.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:50, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The previous AfD resulted in no consensus and the first one resulted in delete. There was never a consensus to keep the article. Rogerthat94 (talk) 23:40, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, Rogerthat94... you fail to include in your analysis that while the first was poor enough in tone and sourcing that its deletion was inevitable, the second version was just differnt and improved enough to create that "no consesnsus to delete". Things change... sometimes for the better, sometimes not. Please go read WP:INCUBATION to see that it is a viable option that improves the project.   Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:13, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That seems like a good solution. Keep it incubated, improve on it when necessary, and then move it back into the mainspace when the subject more clearly meets the notability criteria. Rogerthat94 (talk) 21:39, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

AfD discussions
Hi Stuartyeates, Articles for Deletion (AfD) is not a vote, so it is incumbent on people "discussing" articles there to give a valid reason for keeping or deleting. If you just quote a policy, without saying how that policy applies to the article you are !voting on, the closing admin is unlikely to even consider your !vote/comment. Please see WP:JUSTAPOLICY for further explanation. Thanks for your consideration, First Light (talk) 01:53, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for responding on those discussion pages. See, it also helps other editors see what needs fixing, and therefore if it can be fixed, or if it's unfixable. Sometimes it might seem obvious, but it really does help others, along with the closing admin. First Light (talk) 05:07, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sometimes I get lazy; entirely my fault. Stuartyeates (talk) 05:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You do a lot here, obviously, so I would probably disagree about the laziness! What got me going was seeing that User: SimpsonDG was responding to several of your Deletes with "Keep satisfies WP:GNG". Whether out of pique, or from believing that it was how AfD discussions are resolved, it didn't seem helpful. Anyway, thanks again, for your patience and good will in responding to my ranting about something that is somewhat trivial. First Light (talk) 05:19, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

inre Articles for deletion/Pink Ice
I invite you back to the AFD, as I have found a near perfect redirect target and have clarified why this ONE of the 124 will benefit by a merge and redirect.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 02:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I admit to being a bit surprised that my sourcing the thing as one of the very rare circumstances where the Pink Panther actually speaks has turned the tide from merge to a keep. While a stub is perfectly acceptable, I think the topic CAN be covered in enough sourced detail at the redirect target, and a merge might still be discussed on the article's talk page.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 20:01, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Genocide of Azerbaijani people in Iran
Hi,Stuartyeates.I'm sorry for my unintentionally violating principles.I am not too familiar with the principles, because I am a new comer.I only want to save this article, but I don't want to violate the rules and neutrality of wikipedia.What is your idea about this articleUser:Orartu/Anti-Azerbaijanism?Is it good to be substitued with Anti-Azerbaijani agitations in Iran? With respect--Orartu (talk) 17:13, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * While the AfD is still open, all discussion should happen there. I'd also like to reinforce Farhikh's comment when he says I suggest Orartu to take a look at Anti-Turkism. See Articles_for_deletion/Genocide_of_Azerbaijani_people_in_Iran. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

List_of_ubiquitous_computing_research_centers
You PRODded this, and it was deleted. Undeletion has been requested at WP:REFUND, so per WP:DEL I have restored it, and now notify you in case you wish to consider taking it to AfD. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 09:34, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Redirects
Please stop creating these. More info at the ANI discussion you started. Fram (talk) 09:14, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

Stubs
You contributed to a recent discussion about an editor who was creating many stubs. The conclusion was that this was just a case of a prolific editor, with no violation of policy. There remains a question about whether very small stubs are useful, regardless of how they are created. You may want to contribute to the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Stub/Archive 15. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 19:29, 1 November 2011 (UTC)

Deletion review for Death Valley Driver Video Review
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Death Valley Driver Video Review. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Goodvac (talk) 03:50, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Bubble Babble
Could you take a somewhat closer look at it before calling it snake oil (cryptography)? It isn't even claiming to be encrypting anything, so it'd be difficult for it to be snake oil... Thanks! Allens (talk) 13:33, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Collaborative Intelligence
I’m a newcomer to Wikipedia. I joined because I’m completing a PhD on Collaborative Intelligence, saw that the article was poor and wanted to put in place a framework so others could contribute. Since joining in September, my main contribution is a new Wiki bio page on Israeli physicist Eshel Ben-Jacob (whose work is relevant for Collaborative Intelligence). That page is now a Wiki Israel project. My objective was to continue to add short articles relevant to Collaborative Intelligence, some of which might be stubs for awhile. Proposed Method – If the Collaborative Intelligence article is viewed as a process of engaging the collaborative intelligence of Wikipedia contributors (and others who may not be Wikipedians but who are doing relevant research), i.e. itself an experiment in Collaborative Intelligence, then it should start with a framework to which others can contribute, i.e. not completely loaded with content at the start.

eg. I attended CrowdConf 2011 on November 2 where many spoke about the next generation of crowd-sourcing platforms that can enable effective aggregation and collaborative intelligence. I aimed to engage leaders in the crowdsourcing community to contribute to the section of the Wikipedia Collaborative Intelligence article entitled Crowdsourcing – Precursor Platform for Collaborative Intelligence

Background info
 * 1) Crowdsourcing. There were few publications in 2008, nearly 4000 last year. At CrowdConf 2011 last week, several speakers mentioned Wikipedia as a crowdsourcing pioneer. Crowdsourcing is expected to grow exponentially next year. That community is inspired by Wikipedia.
 * 2) Collaborative Intelligence is a few years behind crowdsourcing, since it needs more sophisticated crowdsourcing platforms, now being developed.
 * 3) Microbes-Mind Forum & Zann Gill – both stub articles in this knowledge cluster; could you make a decision and either leave them with stub tags to grow gradually (my preference) or delete them, since it’s been seven days?
 * 4) Wikipedia articles on Wikipedia. Since Wikipedia itself is an ideal example of effective crowd-sourcing and collaborative intelligence, there could be more information on research about, and lessons learned from, Wikipedia itself. As part of developing the article on Collaborative Intelligence, I’d like to link to research on how Wikipedia is an example of collaborative intelligence.

Let me know on above. I'm a novice user still trying to figure out the ropes/ rules etc so I hope you can have a little patience. Also this knowledge web on collaborative intelligence needs to evolve over time. Okay? Ark2 (talk) 00:22, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

StuartEates – Thanks for your response. But frankly I'm doing a PhD late in life while holding a senior position. I don't have time. I'll do a little to clean up that article, maybe post occasional info re what's going on in my knowledge domain. That's all. Ark2 (talk) 18:46, 8 November 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Dear Stuartyeates, may I ask do you have Wiki email or if you could activate your Wiki email? Thanks. --Lvhis (talk) 00:51, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Activated. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I have stopped editing articles related to the Islands at 25°44′N 123°30′E—25°57′N 123°42′E and removed them from my watchlist, because I found the whole thing too confrontational and some users actions indistinguishable from trolling. I may respond to a RfC. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2011 (UTC)


 * I see. I understand what you have felt. Thank you! --Lvhis (talk) 18:50, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Per your suggestion there, I changed the "East China Sea" to "East Asia" in my draft User:Lvhis/xI RfC. Is this better? --Lvhis (talk) 23:28, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Chris Davenport AfD
Hello,

You said in this AfD debate about a ski mountaineer that you would reconsider if good sources were brought forward. I have done so, and would appreciate it if you would take another look. Thank you.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  04:24, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * I appreciate you taking another look with an open mind. I'm grateful, and I've edited the article as you've suggested.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  05:26, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

Hak5
I am requesting that you reconsider the request to delete the Hak5 article. They consistently show up at hacking conferences and are very active in the hacking scene. They have also had coverage in the general news. See their about page; http://hak5.org/about. 184.175.17.22 (talk) 01:17, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I read the deprecated(?) article on contesting deletion. It said to make a request to the deleting admins first. I will use the process suggested. Thanks.184.175.17.22 (talk) 22:51, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Eric R. Bittner
Hi Stuartyeates,

I have added the distinguished professorship, which had been missing on the page. Please give it a thought whether to reconsider the request for deletion.

--Chris Howard (talk) 00:43, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Youngsim


A tag has been placed on Youngsim requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Tanzeel Ahad 10:54, 25 November 2011 (UTC)


 * You may wan to double check the logs for this. I only moved the page to match the name in the running text. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:09, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

John Lucas Miller AfD
Hello,

I have restructured and referenced John Lucas Miller. Please take another look and comment at the AfD, if you have time.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  06:16, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

LOLI Database AfD
I am pinging your talk page because I've expanded and added references to the article. Please feel free to comment at Articles for deletion/LOLI Database. Thank you.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  19:28, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

House Of Dreams (Album)
Hello. I was hoping you could remove the notibility notice that you placed onto the House Of Dreams page. This is a major release by a well known artist and now contains multiple reviews from impartial sources that speak to the significance of the album. Thanks. Petersspaghettiboy (talk) 19:33, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Trenzalore article restoration
Hello, I lost my temper a little in the following writing. I have been apart of Wikipedia for a long time and have donated to continue the growth of this wonderful website. I have spent a lot of my time analyzing the structure of Wikipedia articles and it has taken me more than a year to get together enough material to warrant an article. Then i was met immediate resistance to the publication of this article "Trenzalore". There were no compromises just the immediate deletion of the article. I was not even given the chance to make correction to the article. Please rethink your stance on the topic at hand. Hoping for the reversal of you decision, Jerrydeanrsmith (talk) 00:40, 5 December 2011 (UTC)JerryDean Smith

Wikipedia does not have firm rules. Rules in Wikipedia are not carved in stone, and their wording and interpretation are likely to change over time. The principles and spirit of Wikipedia's rules matter more than their literal wording, and sometimes improving Wikipedia requires making an exception to a rule. Be bold (but not reckless) in updating articles and do not worry about making mistakes. Your efforts do not need to be perfect; prior versions are saved, so no damage is irreparable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerrydeanrsmith (talk • contribs) 05:16, 5 December 2011 (UTC)

ALGOL 68, ALGOL 68S and ALGOL 68RS
Hi. back in October you proposed the merge of these articles. Unfortunately you didn't provide any rationale or start any discussion on the relevant talk pages, leaving those of us who are interested in improving these articles a little perplexed.

I imagine that you feel that:


 * 1) Since ALGOL 68S is a defined sub-set of ALGOL 68 it should be discussed on the ALGOL 68 page.
 * 2) Since the ALGOL 68RS page is a little bit stubby it doesn't require a page of it's own.

The first of these points is debatable, however the page ALGOL 68S both describes (admittedly poorly) the "official" sublanguage and two implementations of it. Since other ALGOL 68 implementations have their own pages perhaps ALGOL 68S deserves one?

The second point is perhaps better served by a rewrite of tbe (poor) ALGOL 68RS page. I am currently working on one, at user:HughesJohn/Sandbox/ALGOL 68RS.

In conclusion, what is your feeling, as the merge proposer, and, as far as I can see the only (undeclared) supporter of the merge, if we close the merge discussion for now?

I, and I guess others, feel that it might be worth, at a later date, discussing the merger of the different ALGOL 68 implementations pages, assuming that doesn't produce an unreadable mess. Do you have any input?

Whadaya think? HughesJohn (talk) 22:35, 6 December 2011 (UTC)


 * The core problem is that there are a large number of computer language stubs, which make no real claim to notability and have no independent third party sources, which are together the foundation to the wikipedia notability criteria. Claims to notability include things like language X first implemented language feature A proposed by Smith in 1967 which was later taken up by languages Y and Z; language X was used in the Y controller on the Apollo mission; language X was widely taught at undergraduate level, partly because of the excellent textbook by Bloggs; language Y is notable for having implemented feature A, but it was not well regarded and A was abandoned until reintroduced by language Z 30 years later with great success etc. Third party references can be review articles, award citations etc, but must not be from those directly connected with the language or it's creators. The full definition can be found at WP:RS.  Stuartyeates (talk) 07:51, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, this is a problem. It's a pity that you didn't take the time to start the merge discussion with these points. HughesJohn (talk) 19:35, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

Moved from user page

 * Comment: Hi editor, can you give me sometime to edit the article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Personyze  Usmanwardag (talk) 17:45, 8 December 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/Srivatsa Ramaswami
The above AfD has been nulled due to sockpuppet-related issues. You're welcome to comment at the new one - Articles for deletion/Srivatsa Ramaswami (2nd nomination). Cheers, m.o.p  06:06, 9 December 2011 (UTC)

Shopping Centre Notability/PROD Spree
Just to let you know, I have removed the Notability tag, you placed here, at Castle Towers. Claims of being one of the largest in Australia etc. etc. trumps Notability, any day of the week. By all means, I welcome you to discuss on the articles talk page, and provide your arguments. Thank you, -- MST ☆ R  (Chat Me!) 01:31, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed, and the claim might be worth something if it had a reference. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:34, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Hope SMH is a reliable reference to you, because I removed the Notability tag - again - substituted it with a SMH source. Thanks -- MST ☆ R  (Chat Me!) 01:55, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
For your hard work supporting GLAM stuff in New Zealand and your contributions to the GLAM newsletter, which I've renamed to include Australia and New Zealand as a result of your continued participation. :)

LauraHale (talk) 02:02, 10 December 2011 (UTC) 

Westfield Hornsby
Please take another look at the article, I've done a major cleanup and have added more references. Till I Go Home (talk) 08:37, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

StarWind Software Page
Hi,

what kind of reliable sources do you think software company should have? How much StarWind Software is different from say DataCore Software?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataCore_Software

Thanks!

APS (Full Auto) (talk) 12:09, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
I searched a bit and found some refs. mabdul</b> 23:39, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I invite you to re-read what I wrote, particularly the bit where I said Should such sources be integrated into the article feel free to leave a note on my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:20, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nathan King
HI Stuartyeates, according to your note in the AfD comment, I would invite you on taking a further look at the article. I expanded a little, adding some suitable refs (from, mainly, New Zealand Herald, that according WP has the largest newspaper circulation in New Zealand). As you can check for yourself, there are also additional secondary sources about this New Zealander artist in Google News archives. I would also invite you to consider WP:MUSICBIO criteria. Best regards, --Cavarrone (talk) 12:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)--Cavarrone (talk) 12:26, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Your request for rollback
Hi Stuartyeates. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback: If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Hu12 (talk) 15:30, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
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Speedy deletion nomination of Jason Palmer (prison guard)


A tag has been placed on Jason Palmer (prison guard) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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AFD repeat
Articles for deletion/Death Valley Driver Video Review (6th nomination) An AFD you participated in last month is at AFD again.  D r e a m Focus  00:00, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

autopatrolled
At User:Guillaume2303's suggestion, I've given you the autopatrolled right, which means your new articles will be marked patrolled as soon as they are entered. I can't see any of your many creations that anyone could possibly have thought inappropriate. We obviously differ on some other aspects of Wikipedia (see BB'scomment just above), but your article creation is exemplary and deserves recognition. (So does your Maori subject redirect work--I only wish more people did similar projects.)  DGG ( talk ) 11:43, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

AfD/INVEA-TECH
Hi Stuartyeates, I tried to improve article Articles_for_deletion/INVEA-TECH so could you please reconsider your comment and let me know your opinion? If you see there anything which should be improved please let me know. Thanks in advance and best regards, Springl (talk) 16:19, 15 December 2011 (UTC).

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carbon copy participation in AFDs
Seems like practically every AFD I close has the following "Delete as lacking in-depth coverage in reliable, independent third-party sources. Should such sources be integrated into the article feel free to leave a note on my talk page and I'll take another look. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:43, 9 December 2011 (UTC)" It's up to you if you want to keep doing this, but it suggests you are not being very thorough in forming your opinion when you post the exact same remark every single time you participate, which reduces the weight given to your position when making a close. In the case of Articles for deletion/The Adventure of Exham Priory in particular, you seem to have entirely missed the same point as the nominator, that this is a short story published in an anthology and not a stand-alone book. The nominator seemed genuinely unaware of this, but it had already been mentioned at AFD before you copied in your standard remark, suggesting you did not read the other comments at all. These discussions are supposed to be just that, discussions, not voting. Further, if you choose to participate in a discussion, normally you watch that discussion to see if anything changes, instead of trying to assign that duty to someone else. Again, you are not breaking any policies per se, just thought you should be aware of the impression created by such drive-by style participation in discussions. Beeblebrox (talk) 19:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree. I've just closed a whole bunch of AfDs, and I'm not saying that you were wrong in any of them, but you will have to forgive me and other closing administrators: your deletes simply don't carry a lot of weight, given their ubiquitous and unchanging presence. Drmies (talk) 04:39, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I also agree. A comment at AfD that indicates that the editor has read the article, understands the specifics of the case and any previous thoughtful comments by other editors, and has also searched with some level of skill for coverage in reliable sources, is a truly valuable comment.  Cookie cutter comments?  Well, not so much.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328   Let's discuss it  05:09, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Please have another look at this one, Articles for deletion/Ion Dacian. Drmies (talk) 15:36, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
 * And this . An editor had already said there was significant coverage and even proved it with providing external links. Till I Go Home (talk) 11:29, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

Biographies
I looked at a couple of the biographies you recently created. I think it would be a good idea to put something in them to indicate why the person is notable. For example what has Patrick Nolan (labourer) done that makes him deserve an article? CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 12:34, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The mere fact that somebody has been included in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography (DNZB) establishes that the person was notable. But if somebody isn't aware of this, I suppose yours is a fair question.  Schwede 66  17:45, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The article is a stub about a person notable in the settlement and development of New Zealand by Great Britain. The biographical reference in the article provides plenty of material that any editor can use to expand the stub.  My personal preference is to build a more substantial article in a sandbox before taking it to the main space, but this is an OK start for an article about a notable person.  Cullen <sup style="color:purple;">328   Let's discuss it  18:10, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
 * This is part of WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles see Dictionary of New Zealand Biography and I discussed it in reasonable detail at WikiProject_New_Zealand. I did a couple of samples, then about ten and then a couple of dozen. I have now paused the work, but intend to continue later. Stuartyeates (talk) 18:39, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

Mindell Penn
Mindell Penn has had numerous updates including several new references from major newspapers such as the Sacramento Bee, Beaufort Gazette, and San Francisco Chronicle, it may be in your interest to review them in light of the deletion debate.LuciferWildCat (talk) 00:11, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/J. William Leonard
I've found several reliable sources for the J. William Leonard article. Per your message on the AfD occurring for this topic here, Articles for deletion/J. William Leonard, I'm notifying you about the availability of these sources. Northamerica1000 (talk) 03:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC).

Singapore Real Estate Exchange
Hi, I saw your message on my talk page. I've indeed changed the tone of the article to a more neutral one, removing terms that looks like self promotion. You can check out the logs. Also, I saw that you reverted my changes to SRX. Why is that so?


 * I reverted your change to SRX because disambiguation pages are for disambiguating between wikipedia pages, not linking to third party websites, which is what the entry you added did. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)


 * By my count, the current version of Singapore Real Estate Exchange contains eight gratuitous URL links and almost no wiki links. That looks like commercial SPAM to me, which is why I ask whether you had a conflict of interest in relation to the company. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:43, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

A complaint about you
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Shopping centres
Here are some AfDs about non-notable shopping malls that I am inviting you to comment on. Till I Go Home (talk) 11:11, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Connexus Ecosystem
Hi Stuartyeates, could you please take another look at Articles for deletion/Connexus Ecosystem, I've considered your comments and made some changes. Thank you Kelliott14 (talk) 15:32, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

CapitaLand
Hi Stuartyeates. I have undeleted an article which you recently tagged with a prod. This was done in concurrence with the admin who deleted the page. I feel that the subject of the article is notable, though I agree that the article requires substantial clean up and addition of reliable sources. If you still feel that deletion is warranted, please seek community consensus through the articles for deletion process. Thank you! — Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  10:47, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you for notifying me. I'm happy for the creator(s) of the article to have a second chance at the article, and I'll wait to see whether the article gets improved before nominating it at AfD. I've taken the liberty of removing an unreferenced vanity section. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:02, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

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New Zealand bios
You have recently been adding a number of stubs on people included in the '' Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. '' these stubs have however been so short as to give no real information for why the person might possibly be important, and I strongly urge you to include some more information from the usually long and detailed entries there. I have my strong doubts that people such as Joseph Zillwood are actually notable in any real sense, and I might even be prepared to  argue at AfD that this particular national bio was indiscriminate.  DGG ( talk ) 21:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * You might want to check the discussion under the heading 'Biographies' above.  Schwede 66  23:52, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I've moved this to the on-going discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_New_Zealand. Stuartyeates (talk) 02:12, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of John Mackintosh Roberts


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Speedy deletion nomination of Ann Robertson


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