User talk:The Bushranger/Archive16

Cardinalsmyles
Speaking of blocks, just a heads up, but I'm not sure the block did much good. The nonsensical/disruptive editing, albeit now copyvios, has resumed on Hawaii Five-0 and its episode page. Cluelessness continues, no response to warnings and no edit summaries or action on talk pages. --Drmargi (talk) 22:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Trying one final whack with the cluehammer... - The Bushranger One ping only 06:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I was teaching tonight, and used a variant on the cluehammer. Clever!  --Drmargi (talk) 02:35, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I was so hoping this could be avoided, but I fear it's time to lower the cluehammer. We've had two more incidents, one copyvio, and one disruptive. Warning go unheeded (see talk page; I warned for both) and no change of behavior. It's almost like he/she is showing someone how to move a list table to a new article; he/she puts it in, then takes it back. More likely, they don't know how to work around the redirect I put in. Either way, I see no productive editing to speak of aside from very small stuff. --Drmargi (talk) 15:52, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Alas, seems so. I'll take a further look when I'm more awake... - The Bushranger One ping only 10:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * In your own time. Sorry to keep bothering you about this, but what a nuisance this editor is!  --Drmargi (talk) 13:16, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
 * He/she did it again --- copyvio and the attempt at moving. It's so weird! --Drmargi (talk) 00:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Indeed; and they still refuse to discuss, at all, ever; I don't think any more WP:ROPE can be reasonably given. Accordingly, I've indef'd them; maybe if they finally start discussing now progress can be made. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * One can but hope. I do think a sockpuppet alert is in order as well, just in case.  Thank you!  --Drmargi (talk) 22:37, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Another one?
G'day from Oz; I came across this new User. His/her edit history started just before the last SPI, so I'm not sure of this one being an Rk sock, but there is a very familiar pattern to the edits. I guess if there can be a "false positive" in an SPI such as we saw a couple of months back, there can also be a false negative. D'you reckon it's worth another SPI at this stage? YSSYguy (talk) 01:59, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
 * If that's a false positive, I'll eat my hat. (And it's a very Nize Hat.) I'd certainly say it's time to send that one to SPI. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:27, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

A cheeseburger for you!

 * Om nom nom nom nom. Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:24, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

A beer for you!

 * *glug glug* Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 19:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Continuing disparaging remarks
Hi, could you please have a look at this edit? I'm really getting fed-up with the disparaging remarks that this guy throws in my direction. Also, do you know an admin with experience in categories/categorization to have a look at edits like this one? Thanks. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 13:19, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Euroflux, again? I would say sic him at WP:WQA, but hey, we don't need that anymore...oops. Suggest WP:ANI, unfortunatly I'm WP:INVOLVED with EF alas. As for another admin expert at categories, I'd suggest User:BrownHairedGirl. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:57, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * He just was at it again (see my talk page), so ANI it's certainly going to be, as soon as I have time for that. Stupid me, should've thought of BrownHairedGirl myself. Thanks for reminding me of her :-) --Guillaume2303 (talk) 21:04, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Is this is the wrong place?
There is another vote to delete this article. I noticed your note at the bottom of the first attempt located here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Comparison_of_United_States_presidential_candidates,_2012  We could use your guidance here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Comparison_of_United_States_presidential_candidates,_2012_(2nd_nomination)#Comparison_of_United_States_presidential_candidates.2C_2012 if you would be so kind. Thanks Mugginsx (talk) 15:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Another TCM flic
Caught Battle Circus (film) which was a harbinger of the later MASH movie and TV series; mainly obscure today but it starred Humphrey Bogart, June Allyson and Keenan Wynn (also a helicopter movie set in the Korean War!) FWiW Bzuk (talk) 03:46, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * ... and found another one, Flight From Glory, a 1937 B film that features some spirited flying by famous Hollywood stunt pilot Paul Mantz (uncredited) and presages the later Only Angels Have Wings (1939), with the same scenario of a South American airline carrying on the precarious business of flying over the Andes. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 20:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC).

Help needed!

 * See the above user's talk page as well as contribution history, also he just highlighted out an article that has little context which I'm really at a lost as to whether we should speedy or prod it instead. Thoughts? -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 17:48, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look shortly - the reals lifes have gotten me bad... - The Bushranger One ping only 19:51, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Arrr! -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 00:41, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I see he was made to walk the plank! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Aye, he drew his last straw after inserting more spamlinks into them few other article pages but it be WZ-523 I have trouble with right now. Savy? ;P -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 15:43, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Ahoy there, matey~! Any sighting of land yet? I could use some help anytime now... -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 11:39, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that; been being chewed up by RL and lack of sleep. Looking at the WZ-523, it looks to me like it could be a valid article. I think I have that Jane's book so I'll take a deeper look after the race! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Dr Bombay: "But I have to go to the elephant race~!" -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 18:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Haven't had the chance to grab the book yet but will try again tomorrow...busy ugh! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Haven't had the chance to grab the book yet but will try again tomorrow...busy ugh! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Backlinks
Hi, do you normally remove backlinks after closing AfDs as Delete? I just cleared up some for DJ GQ -- perhaps an oversight. – Fayenatic  L ondon 17:58, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Normally I don't; redlinks are good and there's always the possibility of a good article being made at some point. IMHO backlinks should only be zapped when they're disruptive or were added in bad faith, but YMMV of course! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:40, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

User:MartinVillafuerte85
BR, User:MartinVillafuerte85 seems to be adding some seeming good content to aircraft articles, but seems to make no effort to cite his sources. He has a number of notices on his talk page about this dating back at least a couple of years, includign several from the past 2 months. Is their any way you can "encourage" compliance on this issue? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 01:03, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * He also has made some odd additions to the "Giant aircraft" template in the past. I've given him a stop sign! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:39, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Jajadelera2
BR, User:Jajadelera2 appears to be a vandalism-only account dedicated, quite oddly, to changing production dates on airliner articles. Could you look into blocking it? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:57, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Blocked. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks on both counts! - BilCat (talk) 02:22, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

64.223.104.226
The 64.223.104.226 is on a crusade to change all biography articles to incorporate birth/actual names in place of/or as the common name. I have already attempted to open a dialogue on his talk page, to no avail and on the Barbara Stanwyck article where I first spotted changes occurring and where I have already hit 3r, at first thinking the edits were incidental. After doing a rudimentary check, I noted a wide pattern of disruptive editing that has been noticed by other editors. What can be done now? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:37, 23 October 2012 (UTC).
 * At a glance it does look rather disruptive, however I haven't the time to dig into it more thoroughly, alas. Perhaps User:The_ed17 could help? - The Bushranger One ping only 01:41, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

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User Ghunter45
is removing sourced content from Billy Hunter. On the basis of the editor's name, he or she has a conflict of interest. Maybe you want to do something about this....William 15:24, 28 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I've given them the standard COI ping for a start. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:23, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

User:Ze-dan
Hi BR: This relatively new user is on a bit of a campaign to replace many aircraft type images with his own. I have tried to engage him on his talk page and pointed out WP:AIRCRAFT-IMAGES and the requirement to discuss before removing to him, but he doesn't seem to be slowing down. I have had to go and fix pretty much all of them he has removed, re-inserting the deleted images back in, while leaving his additions. You originally welcomed him in April, I thought perhaps a word from you might help reinforce the message to discuss images before removing them. - Ahunt (talk) 20:04, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look when I get a chance - RL is still chewing me up... - The Bushranger One ping only 20:24, 30 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your reply. I think we fought that one to a standstill, so no rush. In the meantime I hope you get your life under control . - Ahunt (talk) 20:40, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Well yes, it's at a standstill because you won't answer the question I've asked you multiple times on Ze-dan's talk page. ;-) This isn't about deleting images anymore; it's about the choice of infobox image.
 * Also Bushranger, your project's last bullet point at WP:AIRCRAFT-IMAGES is a bit screwed up. It's basically saying that you can't be bold in changing out an infobox image... which is a bit weird to start with, but because no one ever looks at the guideline, it's only pointed to after-the-fact, which kind of defeats the purpose of a preventative guideline. Would you like to tackle that or should I start a discussion? ;-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:47, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * AHunt - thanks. Ed - Hm, you might should probably do it, I'm a bit occupied to start rattling cages! - The Bushranger One ping only

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Accident articles
One to watch for ryan spotters - User:AviationMadHead MilborneOne (talk) 17:29, 3 November 2012 (UTC)

Is Ryan back again?
A new editor has created 1943 BOAC Lockheed Lodestar crash and Ben More air crash...William 22:14, 3 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Yup, that's him. Bagged and tagged. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:09, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Dave Aronberg
There's an editor who keeps turning his article into what mostly resembles a campaign press release. The article has RS, NPOV, and OR issues at least. He reverts my work, I tried editing out alot of the patting on the back material(Endorsements, unreferenced accomplishments, material from Aronberg press releases, results of a poll done by the Aronberg campaign), he reverted again. Can you take a look at this article? Oh and be aware of this also....William 00:08, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:58, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

User:6993L
Just blocked User:6993L as somebody from the back of the sock draw who just created 2012 Algerian Air Force C-295 crash, now late UK time so I have to do some RL stuff, any chance of you or one of the TPS giving this a sanity check and raising a sock investigation, if not I will come back to it tomorrow, thanks. I could be wrong but the fact that he/she copied the template from FlyMontserrat Flight 107 and forgot to change the registration rang some loud bells. MilborneOne (talk) 23:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Sniff, sniff...this does smell socky. I'll take a better look when it's not 4:30am! - The Bushranger One ping only 09:24, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, now confirmed, bagged and tagged after only two edits! MilborneOne (talk) 18:42, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Cardinalsmyles
Hey, Bushranger! I know you're going to be delighted to hear this, but our old pal Cardinalsmyles is back, block evading on a new IP: 97.85.224.28. He/she went active on October 23, but until today, it wasn't obvious it was the same person. There's already a warning on their talk page about copyvios, and now they're back to trying to force an edit on the Hawaii Five-0 article. I'm going to file an SPI so it's documented, but given the back-up there and this editor's disruptive nature, wanted you to be aware of it as well, since you've handled them in the past. --Drmargi (talk) 00:23, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I've protected that article for 3 days. Why some people persist so much at socking (see the above, who looks like this chap) is beyond me! - The Bushranger One ping only 09:26, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You tell me and we'll both know, bunkie! And why so often over such trivial stuff?  I've met the master above while wandering through SPI.  Clearly, he's not acquainted with the definition of insanity.  --Drmargi (talk) 11:59, 10 November 2012 (UTC)


 * SPI is done! --Drmargi (talk) 12:57, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

ROTY clinch
Austin Dillon is 63 points (as of Texas) ahead of Cole Whitt in ROTY standings. Likewise, brother Ty is 82 ahead of Cale Gale in the ROTY battle. My point is, that I think that Ty and Austin have enough points to clinch ROTY titles in their respective series. Do you agree?Gaeaman787 (talk) 22:07, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Maybe, but until NASCAR officially declares a winner, it'd be all WP:OR. And don't forget the "rookie panel" that convenes after the season to award its own points. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

User:MartinVillafuerte85
This editor continues, despite a huge number of warnings on his talk page, to make unsourced changes to sourced specification tables. As warnings seem to have no effect, perhaps more serious measures are needed to get his attention.Nigel Ish (talk) 09:25, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
 * ...as he hasn't edited since then, I've given a final-final bolded warning. It's up to him whether he wants to contribute or not now! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:37, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Trouble brewing
See contributions from a newcomer with a political bent. FWiW, the user name is also controversial. Bzuk (talk) 14:46, 11 November 2012 (UTC).
 * Looks like Salvio got 'em. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:32, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Network schedules
Hi Bushranger,

There was an AFD discussion in July 2012 concerning the U.S. network television schedules. After the discussion was closed, you placed the standard link to the discussion on the articles' talk pages. However, it appears a link to the 2007 AFD discussion was used twice, and the 2012 AFD did not get linked. I'm having difficulty finding the 2012 AFD. Can you help me out? Firsfron of Ronchester 18:33, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ouch - good catch. I've fixed it - just need to add (2nd nomination) after the link. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:32, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you! Firsfron of Ronchester  04:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Prisoner of War Merging
Bushranger,

I noted that you merged Category:Recipients of the Prisoner of War Medal with Category:American prisoners of war. This is problematic for a few reasons, but mostly because the medal criteria is broader than the international law definition of POWs (so hundreds of medal recipients, while captives, are not actually POWs). For example, Lloyd Bucher and William R. Higgins were not POWs, but they were POW Medal recipients (and this was legally correct). This is because international law requires conflict between two states before you can have POWs. Bucher was held by N. Korea without an armed conflict, and Higgins was held by Hezbollah without an armed conflict. So, neither are actually POWs. The POW Medal should probably be called the "Captivity Medal," because it recognizes more than POWs.

Foxtrot5151 (talk) 19:30, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, if some were merged that shouldn't be in the new category, they can be boldy removed. The discussion resulted in a merge consensus; the medal itself was determined to be overcategorisation, and the best way to deal with it was to merge to ensure that no articles were left uncategorised, at that point the "outliers" like the ones you mention can be removed as cleanup. If you think the entire consensus was wrong, however, the place to bring it up is at WP:DRV. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:15, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

MMA
Please restore a deleted article M-1 Global: Fedor vs. Monson temporary in my privacy for addition in article 2011 M-1 Challenge season. Thx. NickSt (talk) 01:09, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * It's been userified here. Don't forget attribution per Wikipedia's license! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:19, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

Another blanket templater at work

 * Happy-trigger-tagger templating several article pages but not willing to help identify the specific URL that are at fault? Man, I suspect someone is all out to get a lot of edit count and not doing enough to contribute constructively. Nuff said~! -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 17:15, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. BabbaQ is a long-time contributor though. I'll take a look when I get a chance, still busy busy here! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. BabbaQ is a long-time contributor though. I'll take a look when I get a chance, still busy busy here! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Mesa Marin Raceway
I just saw your proposal 8 months ago to split the article. I responded to you, thinking we should really just move it to KCRP (not the acronym of course) and cover Mesa Marin there. Mitch 32 (Victim of public education, 17 years and counting) 03:14, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, that could make sense... - The Bushranger One ping only 23:22, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

User:MartinVillafuerte85
The uncited additions have continued since your warning last week. Can you pull his plug? Thanks. :) - BilCat (talk) 17:56, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Plug pulled, tub drained, indef applied until there is no longer a failure to communicate. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:27, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks! We'll see if he responds this time. He does make useful edits, just doesn't cite anything. - BilCat (talk) 23:44, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

Fresh input needed

 * See Operation Sea Lion : The Sandhurst Wargame, unpolished gem here. Thoughts? -- Dave ♠♣♥♦™№1185©♪♫® 02:31, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, intriguing, but right now it should probably be merged into the main article on the unmentionable marine mammal, I think! - The Bushranger One ping only 05:13, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012
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Kyle Larson (racing driver)
He won the 2012 Turkey Night Grand Prix (which is a major midget car race) and a bunch of USAC National Midget races in 2012. I changed some of the organization / structure of the article so please review - and make changes as you feel fit. Former midget drivers frequently come back to these major off-season races including the Chili Bowl. Cheers!  Royal broil  16:29, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look. And good on him - Larson and Ryan Blaney are the two biggest blue-chip prospects at the moment, I think! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

Information
I noticed your username commenting at an Arbcom discussion regarding civility. An effort is underway that would likely benifit if your views were included. I hope you will append regards at: Requests for comment/Civility enforcement/Questionnaire Thank you for considering this request. My 76 Strat  (talk) 08:36, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look if I get a chance. My Wikimuse is a bit off-track at the moment but I'll see what I can do. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:59, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

USS_Enterprise_(CVN-80)
It's official, the US Navy has named CVN-80 "USS Enterprise". Please restore this article, deleted previously as the name wasn't official, etc...

Source: USS Enterprise: Past, Present And Future

Thanks! Tim

USS_Enterprise_(CVN-80)

edit: I created post while not being signed in, oops! Timhunger (talk) 20:02, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Looks like a new page has already been created. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:50, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Interchange
Can you have a look at jenks24 talk page? I understand you were involved in the deletion of the Interchange page and jenks is not responding on his talk page. Thanks

--Pajamian (talk) 10:39, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Article Rescue Squadron/Rescue list (2nd nomination)
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Long-term vandalism
Both Americans and Americas are seeing almost daily vandalism-only edits. Could you consider long-term semi-protectiom fr both articles? Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 05:55, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't semi them; both articles aren't receiving an obscene amount of vandalism, and a lot of the vandalism that does occur is reverted by bots. These are also high-profile articles. You might be better served by a request at WP:RFPP, where a few people can form a consensus. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 06:22, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I concur with Mr. Ed. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:12, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Dispute brewing
See Talk:Mitsuo Fuchida. FWiW FWiW (talk) 20:16, 5 December 2012 (UTC).

Request
Hola Bushranger! Just recently, the links to some old RPG on Reina Victoria Eugenia class battleship were tagged as dead, which reminded me of something you said long ago regarding a possible GAN if that source could be backed up. Well, it's been replaced by Conway's 1906 to 1921, so I'd like to know, once again, if she's seaworthy, I mean, GANworthy. Buggie111 (talk) 04:08, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looks like it might be ready to me! - The Bushranger One ping only 04:19, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I'll go put it up right now. Buggie111 (talk) 15:53, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Match It
Just to let you know, I have recreated the page Match It (you have previously deleted the page). Cheers,  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 09:23, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I'd suggest adding a reference, lest it get tagged for speedy deletion as a recreation of a discussion-deleted page without additional content. - The Bushranger One ping only 09:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Great! Thank you :)  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 09:52, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

Tip
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Cheers! :)  CURTAINTOAD! TALK! 06:39, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Already do, but thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 07:42, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Deletion review for Interchange (software)
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Interchange (software). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Pajamian (talk) 08:51, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

The Iron Petticoat
Check the article; I saw it on TCM recently and thought, great, another "lost" aviation movie and then, I began to realize the painful pairing of Katherine Hepburn and Bob Hope had led to a monumental disaster with Hepburn trying to do Garbo while Hope was mugging away. In the end, the mess was so bad that even Hope, who owned its rights, disowned the film and arranged to have it locked away for over 40 years until, presumably, all the principals had died, and Turner Classic Movies could make a deal to re-release the porridge. FWiW (talk) 15:40, 17 December 2012 (UTC).
 * Ouch. Guess even the biggest names can produce a total stinker! - The Bushranger One ping only 17:42, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

Bananas Monkey page moves
Please review recent, undiscussed page moves by : Note, he asked here, was recently turned down, did not make the move:  Joja  lozzo  04:12, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * (12/17, since reverted),
 * (11/3)
 * (10/31)
 * I'm about to head out, I'll take a look when I get back. - The Bushranger One ping only 17:43, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And given a 24-hour block for now, as he's clearly capable of using RM, but.... We'll see if it gets the point across this time finally. - The Bushranger One ping only 14:38, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Request for a name change
Need more eyes to look at what is a bit of a contentious issue in assigning a name to an aircraft-oriented article. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 15:39, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Season's tidings!
To you and yours, Have a Merry ______ (fill in the blank) and Happy New Year! FWiW Bzuk (talk) 00:01, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
 * And a very Merry Christmas to you as well! - The Bushranger One ping only 16:29, 22 December 2012 (UTC)

Premature? CfD close
Hi, I see you closed out this CfD. However user JPL had created dozens of these [xxx establishments in Foo] proposals over many days - its a real mess and super-painful. This one is an outlier and so misses out all the fun 8-( . Nonetheless the last edit was 48 hours ago. Is there any way you can revert this close to keep it alive or put it on hold - as its premature to close out this solitary Syria CfD until the main discussion here comes to a conclusion. Thanks, and Best festive regards. Ephebi (talk) 02:14, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, it's already been processed, unfortunatly, but as there was only one entry (an ice cream establishemnt - !), if the 'main' discussion closes against it, it should be trivial to simply recreate it. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)


 * yes, many of these items are a bit low down the scale, but I'm sure it means something to someone. But some people will quote your close as a precedent. Can you keep an eye open for it when the other discussions end. By the way, although you didn't participate in that discussion, you have participated in identical CFDs recently, and so are obviously not a disinterested party. You probably need to let someone else close out the other 'establishments' discussions when they;ve done their course. Best regards, Ephebi (talk) 04:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Yup, once I'd closed that one, I found the others and !voted. No worries. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:28, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks everyone
Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:27, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

Taipale and SAAC
Thank you very much for helping to move these 2 pages. Azylber (talk) 20:24, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:40, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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The White Bird/L'Oiseau Blanc conundrum
It appears the [move] discussion is becoming tangential and requires some resolution; how does an admin proceed to close the loop? FWiW Bzuk (talk) 17:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I see Mjroots has taken care of it. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:39, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Iouea
Thanks for closing that Bushranger, I did take a hard look at developing an article on the sponge genus but information is very hard to come by - maybe one day. Mikenorton (talk) 18:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No problem. And yeah, I took a look through Google and most stuff on the sponge seems to amount to "lol clever wordplay bro" - sigh! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:20, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

Lourdes Duque Baron
Why did you removed Author Lourdes Duque Baron article? You should have help to expand it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.227.159 (talk) 22:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Because there are no sources for improvement, and the article also was cut and pasted from sources. There was no way it was going to be kept in the deletion discussion, so it was deleted as Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy. If you wish for the article to exist, you need to create it in your userspace as a draft and build it until notability is clearly established from reliable sources. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:17, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

John Golden
Bushranger, I noticed that you deleted the John Golden page last year. I've done some research on Golden and think that he really does pass the notability test. I've started a draft on my user page that I was hoping you could review and let me know if you agree. It seems obvious to me there is a lot more information on him that we could cite, but I'm having trouble getting around pay walls so far. Let me know if you think we could put this up as a stub: User:Robin the Bobbin/John Golden Robin the Bobbin (talk) 02:30, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That looks like a decent article to me - especially as it's covering a different John Golden than the article that was deleted. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:04, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Ha, sorry about that. Still trying to get the hang of everything. Thanks!Robin the Bobbin (talk) 05:25, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject Mountains
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WP:SNOW
Thanks for asking, "Is it snowing in here?" ;) I enjoyed that and, much to my embarrassment, learned something new. Thank you. RiverStyx23 19:30, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow! - The Bushranger One ping only 19:31, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2012–13 Vitória S.C. B season
While your speedy close was correct, the AfD is valid as I agree that the article needs deleting (no notability or meaningful content) - would it be possible for you to re-open the AfD, or should I start a whole new one? GiantSnowman 13:39, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * In cases like this, a speedy re-opening, with a deletion rationale attached, is quite acceptable. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:41, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'll re-open later today. GiantSnowman 09:05, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've done so, re-listed in today's log. Think all should be OK but I'd appreciate a double-check. Regards, GiantSnowman 11:58, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm, well, what you should have done was started a new nomination from scratch, really, but that will work - The Bushranger One ping only 19:24, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Turner Motorsports & Whitney
Isn't Nelson Piquet still technically with Turner, they haven't announced anything as of late except for JEb Burton and Paludo. I only brought it up since you had put Piquet in the former drivers column of the Turner template. Also I'm trying to solve the Whitney/HSM issue but it doesn't seem like anyone really cares to fix it.Gaeaman787 (talk) 17:57, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * According to The Great Guru - er, Jayski's - Piquet's former ride is listed as "TBA" on the team charts, and I think Piquet's contract ran out at the end of the season? Most of the silly season yap I've heard has Piquet not at Turner next year, but nothing confirmed yet. As for Whitney/HSM, what exactly needs to be done? - The Bushranger One ping only 19:23, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

St. Paul churches
Looks like you fed the bot with confusing data so these got moved to the wrong name. Since I objected to the speedy as nominated, I can't fix this. So please readd for the bot. Vegaswikian (talk) 23:46, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ...I have no idea how that got messed up. I'll fix it right away, thanks for the catch. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:48, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

For you

 * Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 19:36, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:AIRCRAFT
Appreciate and accept your recent comments on WP:AIRCRAFT talk page, I didnt have a problem with your original comments or in fact you raising WP:COMMONSENSE, it was the replies and comments from some of the other editors that questioned the good faith and motives of contributors I didnt like, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:07, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:36, 3 January 2013 (UTC)

Request for a third-party opinion on Red Tails disagreement
A submission that "Allied fighters abandoned the bombers to chase German fighters" is to be included in the article as part of "historical inaccuracies" has been challenged on the talk page: under the sub-title: "Lies and inaccuracy". FWiW Bzuk (talk) 23:51, 4 January 2013 (UTC).
 * I saw that; ouch. I'll take a look but I'm not sure I'm up for the latest round of 'arguing with knowitalls' at the moment... - The Bushranger One ping only 01:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

Question
Hi. I'm somewhat new to Wikipedia and was wondering if you can give me some insight. I created a page about a company named Apogee Instruments, but it was just deleted by you. I'm trying to figure out why it was deleted when these similar companies' pages are allowed to remain in Wikipedia: LI-COR Biosciences and Decagon Devices. I believe Apogee is at least as notable as both of those companies. I guess maybe my mistake was adding information about Apogee that I believe proved notability, but I did so after several votes had been cast. Is there some kind of appeal I can submit where it can be re-opened to voting. Thanks. Myniceguy (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Other articles existing is rarely a criterion for an article being kept or deleted; each article is judged by its own merits. If you have reliable, third-party sources that demonstrate notability, you can file an appeal at Deletion Review for the article to be reconsidered. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)

ANI/Gravitis
Hi mate! Yes, we've been through this several times now. Is there anything that can be done? I'd really rather not have yet another related thread archived from ANI without closure/action. It's just a massive distraction from legitimate work. It would be good to have the AFD closed, a couple of potential titles salted and a couple of articles semi'd. Do you think it would be worth me asking for as much at ANI? Stalwart 111  23:04, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm. I'd say probably that would be a reasonable thing to ask for, yeah. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:52, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Damn it! Got archived already (and I got knuckle-rapped for de-archiving an unresolved thread only last week). Anything you could do or would you consider yourself too involved? My requests would have been:


 * Close - Articles for deletion/Aldo Grippaldi
 * Salt - Aldo Grippaldi and Gravitis
 * Semi-protect - Freeboard (skateboard) and Longboard (skateboard)


 * Anything you could do would be appreciated. Cheers, Stalwart 111  08:02, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, somebody else got the AfD. I salted those two; Freeboard was already protected, while with the socks cleaned up I think Longboard can be given a chance. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:34, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Am very happy with all of that - many thanks for your fine work! Stalwart 111  00:42, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Bicholim Conflict
Hi Bushranger. You recently deleted this article. I was wondering if you could email me a copy of the talk page. I am curious who and how it was passed as a Good article and whether it was ever reassessed as part of the GA sweeps. Cheers AIR corn (talk) 06:56, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Sent. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:36, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks AIR corn (talk) 05:36, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Saint Louis City, Missouri geography stubs
Regarding the naming issue — something that comes to mind is the National Park Service's weekly list of new historic sites. See here for one where they mention St Louis, or here for a comparable setting in Virginia. Nyttend (talk) 21:57, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm, I might stand partially corrected then. Still seems a bit picayune though. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to correct you or to defend the current scheme. I'm saying "since the current one is problematic, let's use the NPS scheme".  Nyttend (talk) 03:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Makes sense. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:21, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Warren Cassell Jr and Tom Langmyer
Both these pages I CSD them. Both are vanity pages created by the persons themselves. The first person has a few references but they are hardly notable, the second(Created over 4 years ago) is unreferenced. Most links are dead or barely touch on the person. Can you check both out. If CSD don't apply, would you recommend them for AFD and how? Thanks for the help.

BTW I found a hoax baseball article named Moss Trestman yesterday. It had been up on WP for 3 years and one editor had come across it almost a year ago, recognized it as a hoax, but did nothing. Article is gone now but I just thought I'd relate it....William 02:30, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hoaxers never seem to stop, alas. The first one there has been deleted; the other however appears to have at least some claim of notability, although it needs some serious puffery removal! - The Bushranger One ping only 08:49, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Mountains
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Steven M. Cohen (Attorney)
Hi Bushranger, I created a page entitled Steven M. Cohen (Attorney) which you deleted. Could you send me all of the code from the page I created so I can edit it and make it more acceptable? My e-mail address is Thanks very much.

NYSFBLA


 * I've moved the page to your userspace at User:Nysfbla/Steven M. Cohen (Attorney). Good luck! - The Bushranger One ping only 02:10, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Humphrey Smith Motorsports to Phil Parsons Racing
Since you're an admin, I was wondering if you could move the Humphrey Smith Motorsports page, which was incorrectly moved by User:D-Day, back to Phil Parsons Racing. Since PPR, not HSM is a continuation of Prism and HP Racing. HSM is completely new team, and should get a completely new page. Whitney should remain defunct and have its info on PPR removed. Gaeaman787 (talk) 02:58, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Consider it done! - The Bushranger One ping only 19:11, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Category:Falklands War aircraft
Just looking at you deletion nomination of Category:Falklands War aircraft, I dont have a problem with your logic on and will support deletion, but just interested in your thoughts about others in Category:Military aircraft by war which included Cold War, Gulf War, WW2 under similar category structure and all could be classed as "weapons by war" schemes. MilborneOne (talk) 19:25, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * IMHO? Those probably should all go, except perhaps for WW2. "Cold War" is too nebulous (everything the US, UK, France, Russia, etc. produced c.1948-1991 could be included); Gulf War is too narrow (same reason as Falklands). WW2 is on the borderline (defining for sure, but everything in the era was used in it more or less.) - The Bushranger One ping only 22:23, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * OK understood, I would probably say ww2 might mean some debate but I am not sure why it is an exception to the "weapons by war" precedent, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 22:28, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It probably shouldn't be. But, as noted, it would be the hardest to get deleted, for better or for worse! - The Bushranger One ping only 22:30, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

You know more...
Whitney Motorsports displays their name as Phil Parsons Racing, but I don't believe it should. Do you know what is wrong here? --  Nascar 1996 ( Talk • Contribs ) 20:54, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The whole PPR thing got messed up (in good faith, but still messed up) when the PPR page was moved to Humphrey Smith Motorsports. I moved that back earlier but had missed this. HSM needs its own page with Whitney defunct (but still with a page) and PPR seperate (as it is now, I think?) - The Bushranger One ping only 22:25, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That should do it. Thanks for finally resolving the issue :)Gaeaman787 (talk) 00:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No prob! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:26, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Paul Burke (American football)
It's a newly created article, and maybe by the person himself. He's claiming he played in the NFL, but NFL.com says no. He has tried putting in references, one is a book and the other is a dead end. I don't know what should be done with this article. He took down a prod too....William 19:27, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Fails WP:NSPORT and WP:GNG. Needs to go. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:39, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

CSD
List of the verified oldest known transgender is a very poorly defined article. Its not a list, just one entry. There was a second, but I removed it per WP:RS because its source was a blog from 5 years ago. Another problem- The one entry is the oldest in china, not world wide. Third, where's the verification for any of this? Note the list is verified. I prodded it, but is there any grounds to CSD it?...William 01:07, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think there's a CSD for it, alas. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:45, 13 January 2013 (UTC)

New citations for Harry Dunn
I've restored Harry Dunn at User:JHunterJ/Harry Dunn and added citations. The article is (red) linked from 50 or more articles, so I'm hoping that the additional citations will meet GNG. The deletion review process suggests starting with the closing admin, so here I am. What should I do next? Is a move back to mainspace OK, or would I need the formal review? Thanks, and cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 15:47, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, as long as you have it referenced that he competed in at least one match at a fully professional level, he should be good to go for mainspace. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:54, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I don't think I've done so; I was looking just at the general notability guidelines. I have no particular knowledge of football; I only stumbled on this because of WP:MALPLACED's list. Since the deletion, Harry Dunn (disambiguation) exists while Harry Dunn doesn't. Normally, I'd move the dab to the base name and fix the incoming links, but there are a lot of incoming links and most (or all) intend the football player/manager. -- JHunterJ (talk) 11:53, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, my guess would be that he meets the WP:GNG. I'd say it's ready to be moved, but if you want additional opinions, you might go to WP:DRV. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:43, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've asked for a deletion review of Harry Dunn. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. -- JHunterJ (talk) 12:21, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll take a look when I get a chance, thanks. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Template: Florida Panthers
I saw you edited this in the past. An editor has made a mess of the template's colors. Can you fix it? I would do it but am not sure how. Thanks....William 17:19, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure how to fix it, without rollig back completely and breaking good edits, alas. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

Webcomics
After the Schlock Mercenary debacle, what's your piece here? Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 22:02, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like it's already come and gone - that was fast. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:27, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Roz Howard
 Harrias  talk 16:03, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

The Center Line: U.S. Roads WikiProject Newsletter, Winter 2013

 * —EdwardsBot (talk) 19:46, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Ryan again?
Check out Cavehill plane crash. I CSD it....William 00:58, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And 1945 Sperrins Avro Anson crash too....William 01:15, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a duck. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:37, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

He's back
Ryan of course. Check out 1982 Falklands RAF Sea King crash and 1971 Germany US Army Chinook crash. I nominated them both for speedy deletion....William 23:36, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Quackasaurus rex and sent to SPI. If Ryan would ever just avail himself of the standard offer he could become a good contribitor. Sigh! - The Bushranger One ping only 23:52, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
 * A few months ago I related to Ryan the standard offer. If he'd stop socking for a year, he might even get me to sponsor his return. I don't have a problem cleaning up his spelling and grammar. Unfortunately Ryan didn't listen. Sigh.......William 23:55, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

You may not have understood points I tried to make
In this comment I think you are addressing a counter-argument to a point no one attempted to make, and that you appear to not to have noticed the point I already made. You wrote: "The Coast Guard Medal is not at the level of medals that confers notability."

Wouldn`t it be more correct to say: "The Coast Guard Medal is not at the level of medals that confers sufficient notability, all by itself, for an awardee to merit an individual article"?

It has long been accepted here that being the recipient of a nation's highest award is sufficient to make the awardee "notable" -- all by itself. When one reviews the articles on recipients of the highest award, their awards are often their sole claim to notability. That is true for civilian medals like the George Cross, as well.

I see nothing in the record to suggest there has ever been any consensus that lesser medals confer zero notability. Are you aware of any discussions that explicitly concluded lesser medals conferred zero notability?

John Kerry won Bronze Stars -- didn't they confer enough notability that they are worth noting in an article about him, even though they confer less notability than a Silver Star, which, in turn, confers less notability than a Medal of Honor?

Some medals are very common, and not widely unknown, outside the military. In the US context the Purple Heart is pretty common, isn't it? My recollection was that John Kerry's Purple Hearts would not usually be considered worth mention in the John Kerry article, if it weren't that some critics challenged the significance of his wounds, and implied he used insignificant wounds to get sent home early. When an article says an American served in Vietnam, I think we wouldn't usually mention that they were entitled to wear campaign medals that any veteran who served in Vietnam is entitled to wear. Have I got that right?

So, don't various medals confer a range of notabilities? Is so, how does the Coast Guard Medal compare with the Silver Star and Bronze Star? I am no expert. I don't know. But they aren't awarded that often, and they do seem to require significant daring, which would suggest to me they confer a significant fraction of the notability of a Medal of Honor -- a lot more than the very common medals not worthy of mention.

I tried to make the point that while BLP1E does allow for exceptions, where a single event, like winning a Medal of Honor, is sufficient to establish notability, most individuals' notability is determined by adding up multiple factors that confer notability. I tried to make the point that in Richard Dixon's case, we do have multiple factors conferring notability.

I'd appreciate if you clarified whether you meant to suggest that lesser medals conferred zero notability.

I do recognize that it would be perfectly reasonable for you to say you acknowledge multiple factors can add up to our notability threshhold, and that, in your opinion, the factors in Dixon's case fall short. Geo Swan (talk) 18:35, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I do, that's what I was trying to say. Sorry if that wasn't clear. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:39, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Uglified
After seeing your move on Petrel, it occurs to me this probably should be moved back, too....except LBD Gargoyle is a redirect. Can you handle it when you get a chance? Thx. Also, no need to reply; it's watchlisted, so I'll see it. :)  TREKphiler  <sup style="font-family:cursive; color:#008000;"> any time you're ready, Uhura  22:02, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. I saw that too, but I'm not 100% sure on that one, actually - as LBD is an aircraft-series designation, and it's arguably as much an unmanned aircraft as a missile (see also Republic-Ford JB-2). It kinda straddles the line! I reckon it can be moved (I was the one who originally moved it back in the Great Aircraft Article Naming Change, I see), but it might be contested. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Quoting you
Some would no doubt advise against it, but I'm now quoting you (alongside Dennis Brown) on my userpage. :)  Salvidrim!    &#9993;  09:14, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I'm quotable! - The Bushranger One ping only 21:32, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Hey cockroach
That was some get-together, wasn't it. I wonder how gentlemanly cockroaches act differently from ungentlemanly ones. I'm not going to block the exterminator, though I will probably keep an eye on him. Drmies (talk) 20:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * At least he isn't The Orkin Man! And hey, if we're cockroaches that means we're the ones who'll survive the end of the world, right? - The Bushranger One ping only 21:34, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Bismarck
Hi mate, just pickin' on ya 'cos you're an admin and seemed to be active right now... Might be time to protect German battleship Bismarck‎ and/or block an IP user with a history of disruptive editing who seems to be back after the Xmas/NY holidays. By all means check the history of article and user and make your own mind up... Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:08, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've sunk his battleship by protecting the article for two weeks, and given him a v3 warning to boot (since he's obviously returning to grind his axe with Parsec). - The Bushranger One ping only 01:33, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Tks for that. Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 01:56, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Alex chang
I csd it but article creator took it down, bot put it back up, but then a brand new out of nowhere account took the csd down. I suspect the new account is a sock of the creator. Note the creator has tried to create this article multiple times, and its been taken down. AChang65 in the past has taken down the CSD tags. Pretty clear case of socking to me....William 04:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * He's also trying to claim the article is protected. Yup, that's about as ducky as it gets. Drmies already got it, I sent the socky duck to SPI. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:44, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXXII, January 2013
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98 zantos has returned :(
And he's under the username of User:Thomy98. He just vandalized the 2013 Truck Series page, as well as Cole Whitt's article and created a fanmade Abu Dhabi rally team. So if you'd be so kind as to report him as a sockpuppet and indef ban him. Another question, but how does one apply for being a administrator. Yes, I've been banned once before (though that was 4 years ago), and I think I've become a more responsible editor for Wikipedia. So, to further help you all out, I was wondering how to go to the next step of administrator. Thanks!Gaeaman787 (talk) 16:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It took me a moment to figure out who you meant. But yeah, that's him - the "Big Energy" thing is a huge yellow quacking ball of duckiness. Blocked him, and indef'd the original master just to be sure, as it's clear he's only here to present his made up racing teams and is not here to improve the encyclopedia. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:43, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This IP is also obviously him, given the "TS Motorsports" thing. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:50, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I just realised I forgot the second part of your question, sorry! With regards to being an admin, I wouldn't worry too much about a past block on your record, if you've learned from it and not repeated what got you blocked - indeed, there are those who regard a clean block log as suspicious. I'd suggest you take some time and read through the significant policies and guidelines, getting a full understanding of them (for instance, you've used "ban" when "block" is what's meant - those are different things). Then I'd suggest asking somebody from outside your usual editing sphere to take a look at your editing - I'd suggest Ed - to give a kind of "outside opinon", as it were. If at that point you're still prepared to grasp for the mop, be prepared for the nattering nabobs of negativism to come out of the woodwork at the circus that is RFA (one person openly speculated that I was a sockpuppet of a disgraced past admin on no other basis than he and I both were in the aircraft project, for instance) - it's not for the faint of heart. But if you're ready to face it, then good luck. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:01, 23 January 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jasser Haj Youssef
You closed this debate as no consensus despite it was only created one week ago and had been relisted (twice on the same day by mistake). Would you explain this? I wanted to consult with you before reverting the close. SwisterTwister  talk  01:07, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I missed the accidental double-relisting - saw it had been "relisted twice" and preusmed it was 'dead from lack of discussion'. Thanks for the catch, I'll revert that. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:09, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's what I thought probably happened. Cheers! SwisterTwister   talk  01:12, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

 * OMNOMNOMNOM. Thanks! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:10, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

Question on ANI/Prat
I agree with your position. What is the process on taking his bit away? GregJackP  Boomer!   03:26, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Pretty sure it involves ArbCom, and that's an area I have little knowledge of. - The Bushranger One ping only 03:27, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * My only experience with ArbCom resulted in an 18 month (enforced) WikiBreak... :o, LOL.  GregJackP   Boomer!   03:29, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ouch! I respect those who stick themselves into that hornet's nest, but I keep away from the bees as much as possible! - The Bushranger One ping only 03:31, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * See WP:DESYSOP: "The Arbitration Committee can ask for an administrator's permissions to be removed. However, they will generally not accept a case unless other methods of dispute resolution have been attempted." Hope this helps. Usually a RFC into the admin's actions would be a good step before ArbCom assuming that there is a need for an RFC of course. Callanecc (talk • contribs • logs) 06:42, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks.  GregJackP   Boomer!   12:16, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Hopefully...
...the comment about "nice ermine" in the very thread you graciously re-opened at least generated a small chuckle that cooled your blood pressure at least a little (✉→BWilkins←✎) 18:21, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed it did. Stay good! - The Bushranger One ping only 18:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Clearing WP:CFDW
Hi, it seems that you made this deletion without checking for backlinks to the deleted categories. This was still linked to one of them; this and this also linked to each other's old name, and some other songs/albums categories too. This article linked to an old category too. It's worth doing; hope this doesn't come across as a nag! – Fayenatic  L ondon 20:15, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ouch. Thanks for the catch, I'll double-check from now on! - The Bushranger One ping only 20:34, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

SPA editor
Can you have a word with this one He's using the Murder of Dr. Melissa Ketunuti article to debate its notability rather than on talk pages. Look at this edit....William 00:28, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I've given them the "don't do that" message. We'll see if they listen... - The Bushranger One ping only 00:33, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The mentions of the video and exterminator are in the article's top section. His edits are just repeating it. BTW I deleted his first entry to my talk page by accident and I just restored it. Nothing malicious, just careless editing by me....William 00:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Why doesn't he just call me an "asshole"? I am not a spa. I looked it up. I have made improvements on articles about an airplane crash and a hospital. If you look in Wikipedia, you will find many people who write about one article on one day. I have written about three totally different subjects in one hour. SupportMelissaKetunuti (talk) 00:51, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

thank you for welcoming me
Thank you for welcoming me.

User william JE just wrote that he is getting an administrator and you are one so you may be acting as the police.

There is a new article. It needs improvement, I agree. It is very new. There was a debate WITHIN the article about whether to keep it. William removed this. I agree! However, he also removed factual information about the murder. This is either sloppy, devious, or unintentionally bad.

If you don't like an article, you should not strip stuff out until the article is so short and bad that the unwitting would delete it.SupportMelissaKetunuti (talk) 00:34, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no "police" on Wikipedia; admins support the policies. Information is not removed from articles based on not liking it; it's removed based on Wikipedia's policies. Policies, guidelines, and generally followed practices regarding the inclusion of information in an article, or the article itself, include Verifiability, Notability, Reliable Sources, and What Wikipedia is Not. It's worth mentioning that the standard for inclusion in Wikipedia is Verifiability, not Truth; facts can be "true", but if they have not been reported in reliable, third-party sources, they can't be included in an article. If you have concerns about the article's content, the first place to discuss them is the article's talk page, where Consensus can be established regarding the inclusion or exclusion of content. If you believe the article should not be deleted, you can remove the Proposed Deletion tag; the other editor, or any other editor, can then choose to send the article to Articles for Deletion if they still believe it should be deleted; an AfD tag can not be removed from the article, however the community as a whole will have the chance to evaluate it and determine if it meets the policies and standard for inclusion in Wikipedia. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:43, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * You wrote " Information is not removed from articles based on not liking it; it's removed based on Wikipedia's policies." This is not true.  Anyone can remove anything they don't want.  I suspect this is far more common that looking up a policy and removing a sentence based on policy violation.  Even if one is well intentioned and improves an article, say by correcting grammar (which removes some words), they are improving it, not removing something because of a policy violation.


 * I asked that my username be changed since it was picked without enough thought. I've heard no response back.  Can you help or you are not a bureaucrat? SupportMelissaKetunuti (talk) 00:59, 26 January 2013 (UTC)


 * WP:IDONTLIKEIT is a link for a reason; the people who remove information against policy are called vandals; there are many, but simply removing content, even sourced content in some cases, is not vandalism. I'm not a bureaucraft, you'll want to request a username change at WP:CHU. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:52, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

WP:NASCAR Newsletter (January 2013)
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what did i do?
Would you please be kind enough to tell me what i did to be banned from aspartame controversy this time.

Was it my joke that was not appreciated?

My last posting was intended to register my feelings toward a consensus. Am i not allowed to do that? And yes i did mix up two sources.

I would appreciate your views. Arydberg (talk) 15:41, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The consensus of the community, in the AN/I discussion linked, was for the topic ban; you'd have to ask there for precise details, as all I did was close the discussion by the consensus. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:05, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks, Arydberg (talk) 16:57, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Martinsville race moves
Hi. Martinsville Speedway changed some of their race names. I would move them myself, but I can't. Goody's Fast Relief 500 needs to be moved to Virginia 500, while the Tums Fast Relief 500 needs to be moved to Goody's Fast Relief 500. Schedule Will you perform the moves? Thank you! --  Nascar 1996 ( Talk • Contribs ) 00:56, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ...ouch, confusing when a race name get swapped between the year's dates isn't it! And fixing the links to the GFR500 is gonna be a pain as a result. Anyway, I've made the moves, lemme know if there's anything else that needs a mop shook at it. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks. I forgot about all of those links, it would have been a lot simpler if they renamed the fall race to Virginia 500 instead of changing both races. --  Nascar 1996 ( Talk • Contribs ) 01:04, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That's probably exactly why they didn't do it! - The Bushranger One ping only 01:05, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Agoura High
Accountingguru29 is another sock Gtwfan52 (talk) 01:04, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * 239 and rising... - The Bushranger One ping only 05:51, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Early closing of CFDs
Please don't close CFD discussions until they've been open for a full 7 days (unles they fall under speedy deletion, speedy keep, or WP:SNOW). This means that if a discussion was openned at 9:19 UTC on the 21st, it shouldn't be closed until at least 9:19 UTC on the 28th. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 05:36, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I used to adhere to that, then I saw multiple other people closing the day's discussions once it ticked over to that day, so I simiply practiced When in Rome. However, I will do that from now on. - The Bushranger One ping only 05:50, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

New Orleans crime family
Just wanted you to know that your witty closing comment on that thread was  noticed, and the prolonged fit of laughter that it induced was the highlight of my afternoon. Thanks! Best, --Arxiloxos (talk) 06:13, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It was an offa I could not refuse! - The Bushranger One ping only 06:13, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Our friend is back
Check out 1949 KLM Lockheed Constellation crash....William 23:08, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Duck Hunt conducted, mallard in bag. - The Bushranger One ping only 00:01, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for AAM-N-4 Oriole
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for AAM-N-5 Meteor
Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:03, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

User:Tssswebmaster
Dear BR: This is a request for you to review this situation, as this user asked you before to look at this same issue in 2011. As this user indicated in that talk page post, he or she represents the school that is the subject of the article Tak Sun Secondary School. At that time you indicated that the content was copyrighted and did not restore it. As you can see at User_talk:Tssswebmaster this article has since been created and deleted as WP:SPAM several times and the user warned for WP:COI. His or her mission seems to be to create a promotional article here to attract students to his or her school. The last time the article was recreated I considered once again sending it to WP:CSD as spam, but some research turned up that the school is actually notable, for a number of academic shortfalls and a financial scandal. So rather than send a notable subject to deletion I fixed the article, replacing the unsourced and copyright vio promotional text with encyclopedic content. Naturally this has not sat well with the user who is determined that the article contain only promotional material and nothing negative. WP:COI of course warns users about exactly this outcome, saying: "If there is anything publicly available on a topic that you would not want to have included in an article, note that it will probably find its way there eventually." Anyway the user has been consistently vandalizing the article to remove cited content and replace it with uncited promotional text. I have just given them a final warning for this on their talk page, but they show no signs of stopping or communicating with anyone. I was wondering if I could impose upon you to review the matter and take whatever action you deem appropriate under the circumstances. Thank you for considering this request. - Ahunt (talk) 12:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ai yi yi...edit warring and vanispamcrufttisement. He does it again and he's indef'd. - The Bushranger One ping only 21:58, 29 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, thank you for reviewing it! I expect that event will happen by tomorrow morning based on recent edits. - Ahunt (talk) 22:53, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Gabardini monoplane
— Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:03, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Athlone Group of Companies
I was significantly surprised at your decision to re-list this deletion debate - what were your thoughts behind that if you don't mind me asking? nonsense ferret  01:56, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The formatting was such that the Delete !votes were missed when I looked through it the first time. I'll close it now - thanks for the catch. - The Bushranger One ping only 01:57, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No worries, I jumped a bit too quickly. To be honest though, I was really wondering whether given the details of this one whether I should request further action, thought I'm not sure what form this action could take - the page has been attempted to be submitted a few times (there are examples in user space) in the past with slightly different names, I fear it goes beyond a simple hoax if you understand what I'm saying.   nonsense  ferret  02:02, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Hm. Well, if it pops up again, you can try askign for it to be WP:SALTed, perhaps. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:03, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Without saying too much, there is a closely related page Jojar_S_Dhinsa which might have some sort of notability from mentions in the press, but I think should be looked at with a very careful eye as to whether it is appropriate to keep? Any thoughts?   nonsense  ferret  02:10, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Looking it over at a quick glance, I'd say I don't think that would survive an AfD on notability grounds. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * And now someone has attempted to blank the page of the deletion discussion - bit rum isn't it? nonsense  ferret  18:02, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Indeed. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:38, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Incruit
Hi, wikipidia. I’m a Jang Jae-sup, PR manger of Incruit. Co. LTd. which the Best Korea Job info Company. And I saw the your warning message about site delete below.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incruit

This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy. Please share your thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. Feel free to edit the article, but the article must not be blanked, and this notice must not be removed, until the discussion is closed. For more information, particularly on merging or moving the article during the discussion, read the Guide to deletion.%5B%5BWikipedia%3AArticles+for+deletion%2FIncruit%5D%5DAFD

We were embarrassed because we still serve much job information to Korean Job seeker, And we having advanced to Global Job market with our Job Solution, named ‘Nae-il Search’. Nae-in Search serve 50th country job info now. We were delete the unused link and hope to maintain current Incruit page. We always thanks your devotional activity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.106.59.1 (talk) 09:59, 31 January 2013 (UTC)


 * The article was deleted due to it not meeting Wikipedia's standards for Notability. If you believe it does and the deletion was in error, you need to contact deletion review - The Bushranger One ping only 19:48, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

unsigned
Any particular reason you removed the unsigned [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=535632541]? NE Ent 11:08, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Because simply adding a "see also" link at the top of the section, with no commentary, shouldn't require a sig, IMHO. If disagreed with it can always be added back of course. - The Bushranger One ping only 18:40, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Of course it should, because it is a commentary. For any given dispute, there are often many places we could "see also," (article talk, user talk, etc). TPG good practice doesn't really list exceptions (except like refactoring indenting). NE Ent 03:44, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Paid editing (and stamping out thereof)
Hi. Just thinking about your comments against paid editing as seen on a recent ANI thread, I've seen several paid editing related incidents this week, three of which have got tangled up with conversations on my talk page -,  and  - and none of which have had much success getting the articles they want through Wikipedia due to general lack of notability, with a side order of conflict of interest. You might say "serves them right for being greedy", but my concern is more protecting some person working in PR for some non-notable company who's been ordered on high to "do the Wikipedia page" as part of the job, when they haven't got a hope in hell of succeeding. Is it worth firing up WP:RFC/PAID again - I notice the last discussion was three and a half years ago, and time's moved on, and the practice (unless I'm just being more observant) becoming more prevalent. What options do we have? Ritchie333 <sup style="color:#7F007F;">(talk)  <sup style="color:#7F007F;">(cont)   20:40, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Honestly, I'm not sure the RFC would be worth it - there's well-entrenched, and well-argued to be fair, positions on both sides of the issue, and while logic suggests that paid editing is always a conflict of interest (at least to me!), any attempt to 'deal with it' will probably hit the same walls that block the adoption of Sign In To Edit, alas. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:47, 30 January 2013 (UTC)


 * I'm sure its dreadfully bad wiki-etiquette to comment on someone else's conversation, so apologies for that. However, just wanted to agree 100 percent. For what it's worth the policies/guidelines seem a bit confused at the moment WP:COI seems to make it pretty clear if you have such a CoI then don't contribute, also Conflict_of_interest_editing_on_Wikipedia seems to indicate that as recently as last year Wales himself indicates a hard line should be taken against paid editing.  However WP:NOPAY 'The act of accepting money or rewards for editing Wikipedia is not always problematic.' seems to totally undermine the general policy and this in particular I think makes it pretty hard to enforce clearly.  I'm too new an editor to be proposing changes yet though :(.  I feel like most editors are like the proverbial dutch boy with fingers in a dyke trying to hold back a flood of worthless and not notable business advertisements. Whichever was I look at it, it seems horrifying, maybe they should just accept that it will happen and start charging them vast sums of money for a special paid for entry - I guess that's the google search commercial model ;/  nonsense  ferret  23:57, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Lo what is that I hear, I think it must be the sound of people rushing to WP:CO-OP :/ nonsense  ferret  03:27, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Alas... - The Bushranger One ping only 03:28, 31 January 2013 (UTC)