User talk:Tinucherian/Archives/2009/May

Talk:Nortel Page
Please review the discussion and respond. Geek2003 (talk) 01:56, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Films April 2009 Newsletter
The April 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 07:57, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Villages in Kerala categorisation
Ok... But I have skipped a few confusing ones... You will have to take care of those... Paalappoo (talk) 13:46, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Shall do that too. Thats fine with me. Paalappoo (talk) 13:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks --  Tinu  Cherian  - 13:54, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

WOW! Thanks a lot... Paalappoo (talk) 14:02, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

My user page says I am nocturnal... :) owlish nature... active at night...

Pending villages starting with C, M and S need your attention. Paalappoo (talk) 18:32, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * :) I will look into it. I was awake for this BAG membership --  Tinu  Cherian  - 18:34, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

OK... Thanks!

Good Luck for the nomination! Paalappoo (talk) 18:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Me off to bed now --  Tinu  Cherian  - 18:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

RfBAG
I've nominated you at Bot Approvals Group/nominations/Tinucherian for WP:BAG membership. Feel free to review the nom, accept if you would like, and then transclude it to the top of WT:BAG. Also, remember to notify the pages mentioned in the policy. Good luck.  MBisanz  talk 20:20, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I am humbled. I will accept and transculde it today. --  Tinu  Cherian  - 02:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think I am done from my side. I transcluded the page and notified the pages ( except RFA page). Ok. Let me face the fire test now. I leave it open to others ... :) --  Tinu  Cherian  - 11:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * 718smiley.png.  MBisanz  talk 18:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * :) smiled back :P --  Tinu  Cherian  - 18:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Malayalam Films

 * Peruvazhiyambalam-Rewrite
 * Stop Violence-Rewrite
 * Nakshathrakkannulla Rajakumaran Avanundoru Rajakumari
 * Nadiya Kollappetta Rathri
 * Ennodishtam Koodamo
 * Thooval Sparsam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.120.220.61 (talk) 04:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

K.Balaji Is dead
K.Balaji passed away today --124.120.222.234 (talk) 06:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry for my ignorance, but Who is K Balaji ? --  Tinu  Cherian  - 06:15, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, Now I know, Is there a reason, why you this notice here on my talk page -- [[User:Tinucherian| Tinu ] Cherian  - 06:17, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Categorization of Cities and towns in Kerala
Now that categorization of villages are complete, I thought I will do the cities and towns. But there also, quite a few duplicates are there, where the duplicates are classified as villages, like Peermade and Peerumed. Also, I doubt if the ones classified as cities and towns are really cities and towns. Shall I go ahead with district-wise classification, assuming that they are really cities and towns? Paalappoo (talk) 12:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That is one thing that I have been also thinking about. The WP usual way was to group "Cities and towns" together and villages seprately. But the case should be different in India related settlements because "towns and villages" are more closely connected. I am thinking of raising this at WT:INDIA to see what others think of this. Therefore I suggest you may not proceed with the decategoirsation of the "Cities and Towns" as of now. If you are interested, you may decategorise villages of other states. You may need to create categories of many of the districts of other states like I have done for all districts of Kerala and Karnataka till now.

And for duplicate articles, I suggest you may merge them to most common name/spelling if you think they are about the same place. For other articles, use Mergeto and mergefrom templates to propose them for further opinions. All the best -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 12:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

OK... Thanks! Paalappoo (talk) 12:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Need help with infobox of Karukutty. Paalappoo (talk) 16:45, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Is this wht you wanted ? -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 22:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that was it. Thanks! Paalappoo (talk) 02:39, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. No problem -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 02:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XV
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Gandhi Nagar(R)
Any idea about Gandhi Nagar(R)? Wondering why the (R)... Paalappoo (talk) 14:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I have no idea. Even I have seen lotz of village names in the same way in the census gov website. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 05:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

OK. About the coord missing template, I feel I was a bit careless, bcos I assumed that there will be some bot which clears it. Shall check the edits I have made and rectify. Paalappoo (talk) 08:16, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Poojary
Hi! You've tagged talk:Poojary as WPBiography but the article is about an ethnic group rather than a single person. In best Microsft (R) tradition I'm tempted to ask: "Are you sure?" -- Timberframe (talk) 14:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * My mistake. I fixed it. I was basically tagging category:Indian people. Thanks -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 14:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Glad to help -- Timberframe (talk) 15:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Reply to your message
-MaverickSolutions (talk) 16:10, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

The Military history WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XXXVIII (April 2009)
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Happy Birthday
Wish u a very happy birthday and wish you live long and we will be able to see such good job from you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amartyabag (talk • contribs) 16:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

I should have noticed that myself, shouldn't I? Well, it is traditional to do some review of someone's efforts in the past year at such times. And, guess what, I finally found the Christianity project's barnstar. It looks like this:


 * Thanks John, it was very sweet of you. I am just following the steps of leaders like you who have virtually built this project -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 17:07, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Tagging of WP Biography
I noticed you tagging Hindu deities with WP Biography. I felt this is inappropriate as WP Biography focusses on real people, not divine, mythological beings. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * For some reason, I felt they should be included.If you feel it is inappropriate, you may remove them or I can do that -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 06:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I will remove all those I see in my watchlist. The rest can be done by you. Thanks.-- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:44, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

OK. But I suggest not to rem them for sages and saints -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 06:45, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Sages and saints need Biography. True. -- Redtigerxyz Talk 06:48, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Wokey -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 06:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps invitation
Hello, I hope you are doing well. I am sending you this message since you are a member of the GA WikiProject. I would like to invite you to consider helping with the GA sweeps process. Sweeps helps to ensure that the oldest GAs still meet the criteria, and improve the quality of GAs overall. Unfortunately, last month only two articles were reviewed. This is definitely a low point after our peak at the beginning of the process when 163 articles were reviewed in September 2007. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. All exempt and previously reviewed articles have already been removed from the list. Instead of reviewing by topic, you can consider picking and choosing whichever articles interest you.

We are always looking for new members to assist with the remaining articles, so if you are interested or know of anybody that can assist, please visit the GA sweeps page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. If only 14 editors achieve this feat starting now, we would be done with Sweeps! Of course, having more people reviewing less articles would be better for all involved, so please consider asking others to help out. Feel free to stop by and only review a few articles, something's better than nothing! Take a look at the list, and see what articles interest you. Let's work to complete Sweeps so that efforts can be fully focused on the backlog at GAN. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 08:50, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

Andauor
Please check Andauor. I think it was meant to be Andalur. Can Andauor be removed? Paalappoo (talk) 12:07, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

mass tagging
You added WP:BIO templates to lots of articles that are clearly not WP:BIO articles. Please don't do that. --dab (𒁳) 18:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)

A suggestion
Would you mind having a quick word with User:Paalappoo about good style guidelines for articles: heading capitalisation, substing PAGENAME, using convert where appropriate, etc.? I see a chance to easily improve the quality of lots of Indian stubs if the guy classifying them also tidies them up a little. Cheers, - Jarry1250 (t, c) 19:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and I've pinged the bureaucrats on your behalf. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 19:16, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

BAG nomination
I have closed your BAG nomination as successful; congratulations! -- Avi (talk) 00:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks Avi. I was just watching the BAG nom being closed by you... -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 00:06, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Deservedly so. Congratulations! Have you considered using IRC? There are always other members of the BAG on (we have our own channel), and a good recent bot-related edits spambot. Anyhow, haven't you got work to be doing? ;) - Jarry1250 (t, c) 09:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your kind words. yes, I use the BAG channel on freenode IRC -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 09:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Jees... my memory's failing. - Jarry1250 (t, c) 09:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Wikiproject Indian roads
Can i know how to script and make all images for highways ? Do we need to create each image ? Naveenpf (talk) 14:54, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Indian roads
Let us edit and improve the articles in WikiProject Indian roads Please Visit WikiProject Indian roads/Article for the Week --Naveenpf (talk) 15:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Need the bot again
Requesting the delivery of Template:WikiProject Christianity/Outreach/May 2009. As indicated therein, I'm working on generating a list of articles to be featured on each Christianity related portal, so that we don't have too much overlap and that as many GA and higher articles get included in a portal. I'm not quite done, but it is my intention that any people actively invovled in any of those portals have a chance to weigh in. The so far incomplete beginnings of the list can be found at User:John Carter/Christianity portals. Feel free to make any comments that come to mind. Thanks again. John Carter (talk) 01:27, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. I will have a look today -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 01:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Whenever you're ready. I decided to restore the challenge of the month this time, and added a little about the possible change to the Narnia task force of the Novels project. I hope the challenge gets the few remaining stubs improved. John Carter (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ : -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 02:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Project newsletter
Whenever you're ready. John Carter (talk) 21:18, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok.If you are done with the newsletter, I will do it today morning India time. ( time now is 2:50 AM :D )-- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 21:21, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * At your convenience, but the sooner the better, because I'm hoping to get the contest at least known about in time for something to happen with it. John Carter (talk) 17:07, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * ✅ : -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 02:19, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

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WP Pakistan
Hi Tinu, Can you do me a favour? Apparently, there is something wrong with the WP Pakistan template. Whenever I add a Pakistani "Category" under the scope of WikiProject Pakistan (On the category talk page of course), it comes up with a section asking for rating on the importance scale.....this is not right because Category-class articles do not require any rating. Can you please fix this up somehow or get some else to do it..I'll really appreciate. Thanks.....124.177.122.229 (talk) 11:15, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I cud have helped but WP Pakistan is admin protected ( I'm not an admin : for edits. Can you place a request at Template talk:WP Pakistan asking to disable importance scale for category and template classes. For references they can see how it is implemented in WP India. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 12:30, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Ok no problem. You're not an admin? I'm surprised yaar......you look like like one lol. 124.177.122.229 (talk) 14:18, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
 * :P Leave a note regarding the request @ Template talk:WP Pakistan. Some body will be able to help you out -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 15:07, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for your undeserved kindness
Thank you for the barnstar that you gave me last December. I can only assume that the gift was in gratitude for my long absence from Wikipedia. I see from time stamps that it has been just a little over a year since my previous edit. If you wish to repossess the star I will understand. Thank you for all that you are doing to encourage others. "No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted." (-Aesop) Buddhipriya (talk) 03:01, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

Meghalaya geography stubs
The articles which have Meghalaya-geo-stub are not getting added to the category Meghalaya geography stubs. Can you pl help?

My earlier query about Andauor remains... Paalappoo (talk) 12:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XVI
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Statement on dates
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Bot request
Could you tag the talk pages of these portals and their subpages as follows:
 * Portal:Drink
 * Portal:Food
 * Portal:Wine
 * Portal:Beer

About two hundred pages or so. Thanks again! --Jeremy (blah blah) 06:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
 * OK. I will do it -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 00:51, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

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WikiCup newsletter XVII.V
This is just a quick reminder that the round ends this Friday, May 29, 2009. I wanted to let you guys know the current standings. If you are very close, but not close enough, work as hard as possible these next two days. Pool leaders are listed as usual, and under the 10 wildcards, are competitors that are still fighting for a spot. Also, if you currently have any un-reviewed GAN's up and you'd like them to be reviewed and counted for this round, you must place them on the appropriate thread of the WikiCup talk page.


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GARDEN, iMatthew :  Chat  , and  The  Helpful  One   The  Helpful  Bot  00:55, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Indian roads
Tinu, Hope you are well! I haven't been active recently, but do make few edits here and there. I have made the template changes. Can you please create the required assessment categories for the Indian roads group? Thanks, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 07:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I am fine dude. Hope the same there...Ok. I will see the template and make the appropriate categories. Thanks for the help. -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 07:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Fake IPL Player
I could just post them on my blog if it is useful (or accepted).  YellowMonkey  ( cricket calendar poll! ) 01:27, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

RE: Unable to load Category creation plugin
I have fixed the exception bug on the CCP. Please load the new DLL and let me know if you have any issues. Regards, Ganeshk  ( talk ) 02:21, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks I will try now -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 02:32, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Email sent to you
Proposing new topic around I/O virutilzation.

Thanks,

- Jon Toor, Xsigo Systems

Jon toor (talk) 02:38, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

thanks
Dear Tinu, thanks for your support. I dont have any plan to run the bot in enwiki. I was checking the tools, u may can check it's edit count nothing more in it. I'm waiting for approval in ml wiki. thanks, --Jigesh (talk) 05:16, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * No probs. Let me know if you need any help at en.wiki. Rameshng has also started his interwiki bot on en.wiki recently and on bot trial now -- <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000"> Tinu  <em style="font-family:Kristen ITC;color:#ff0000">Cherian  - 05:17, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks Tinu for the barnstar. :) -- Like I  Care  12:49, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletter XVIII
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WikiProject Films May 2009 Newsletter
The May 2009 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 23:49, 31 May 2009 (UTC)