User talk:TonyTheTiger/Archive 61

Your comment on TCO's talk
He RTV'd last week. A bot resurrected his talk page. I will delete and salt, I guess, it can be undone if he returns.--Wehwalt (talk) 00:52, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I have an idea....
US collaborations have been resurrected this year. Going ok, and one (George Washington) has made GA. I reckon these need someone really interested in something to give an article and almighty push to GA or FA. Now I figured you'd be keen to get the big one, so I nominated it there - with a bunch of folks rolling up their sleeves it might get the momentum to get over the line...? Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:44, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter
We are half way through the penultimate round of this year's WikiCup; there is less than a month to go before we have our final 8. Our pool leaders are (Pool A, 189 points) and  (Pool B, 165 points). The number of points required to reach the next round is not clear at this time; there are some users who still do not have any recorded points. Please remember to update your submissions' pages promptly. In addition, congratulations to PresN, who scored the first featured topic points in the competition for his work on Thatgamecompany related articles. Most points this round generally have, so far, come from good articles, with only one featured article (White-bellied Sea Eagle, from ) and two featured lists (Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story, from PresN and Grammy Award for Best Native American Music Album, from ). Points for Did You Know and good article reviews round out the scoring. No points have been awarded for In the News, good topics or featured pictures this round, and no points for featured sounds or portals have been awarded in the entire competition. On an unrelated note, preparation will be beginning soon for next year's WikiCup- watch this space!

There is little else to be said beyond the usual. Please list anything you need reviewing on WikiCup/Reviews, so others following the WikiCup can help, and please do help if you can by providing reviews for the articles listed there. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews generally at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup- points are, of course, offered for reviews at GAC. Two final notes: Firstly, please remember to state your participation in the WikiCup when nominating articles at FAC. Finally, some WikiCup-related statistics can be seen here and here. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 11:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)
Since all of the issues have been addressed, I feel confident putting this article in good article status. Congratulations and keep up the good work. - Rp0211  ( talk2me ) 18:34, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Hybrid Time 100 lists
I'm not sure what difference it makes if Time uses polls in making its lists. Are the poll results publicly available, or is there a description of how they are incorporated into the process? If poll data is simply used to inform the editorial selections, then the list is still fundamentally subjective and could have enough creativity for copyright protection. As Dragons flight explained in the discussion way back when, the lists that are excluded from protection are "lists which are derived solely from facts, statistics, or polling data". Time's use of categories already requires editorial decisions to invent the categories and assign who should go in which category, so it's pretty hard to see an argument that the use of polls undermines the potential copyright. --Michael Snow (talk) 23:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK Nom for Carly Foulkes and Powers (FX TV series)
Hi Tony, I have reviewed your nominations for Carly Foulkes and Powers (FX TV series) and there are some problems that need to be addressed before I approve it. Could you see my comments at T:TDYK? Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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Featured article candidates/Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)/archive1
I think I've fixed the reference. I'm working on the rest of the refs at the moment. Novice7 (talk) 04:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Tony. Sorry forgot to leave a message on your talk page. I really can't do much on weekdays. I'm in the office. Thanks for the patience. --Efe (talk) 12:44, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The article has gone major revamp. Its quite good. I'll do a re-reading. The other opposes? How is it going? --Efe (talk) 13:33, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Tony. I left comments on the page. --Efe (talk) 03:15, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * How many weeks usually candidates with opposes stay at FAC? Most of the opposes bank on the usage of non-free media. --Efe (talk) 03:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. But its getting better. Good luck. You have endured lots of FACs. This one should be easy for you. --Efe (talk) 03:33, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. But we met before and you know your writing is far better than mine. Perhaps I could spot errors but still you write well than me. hihi. --Efe (talk) 03:44, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Tree of Life - Domenge.JPG
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Highways and FOUR
I scanned through the category of possible FOUR candidates looking for WP:USRD and other highway articles. None were eligible, as most highway articles of some age were created by a different set of editors than the active USRD editing community that is GAN-ing and FAC-ing articles now.

In other constructive criticism, I suggest that you alter your signature to stop linking to your associated pet projects and that you remove your "trophy case" from your talk page. It's completely unnecessary to promote projects like that in your signature (which makes it overly long both in code and in display) and frankly, it's a bit tacky. The list of your awards and credits is more appropriate for your user page. When editors arrive at a user's talk page, the last thing they want to do is scroll down four screenfuls of junk that has nothing to do with leaving you a message, or duplicates a substantial portion of your user page. User pages and talk pages have two separate functions, and I don't care how many baubles and trinkets you've accumulated around here when I'm leaving you a message; if I wanted to know more about you, I'd have clicked on the link to your user page.  Imzadi 1979  →   17:35, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

United Nations Honour Flag
Since you built the initial core of that article around info and links I supplied on the image description page File:Four Freedoms Flag or United Nations Honour Flag ca 1943-1948.svg, under some views it would have been courteous for you to inform me that you were starting the article... AnonMoos (talk) 02:45, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sulking or resentful. But, however good your intentions were, it's reasonably clear that ultimately you were motivated more by a desire to notch up another "DYK" than by any deep interest in or knowledge of the subject matter, and as a result I'll be slowly trying to improve the article for a fairly extended period... It probably would have been a quicker route to a better article to start out in a more collaborative mode. AnonMoos (talk) 14:17, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Whatever dude, I am not "crying" about anything, and in fact you seem to be much more emotionally involved than I am, since you're conducting opposition research on me, while I remain somewhat indifferent as to your personal characteristics. Nevertheless, if you had been motivated by a more in-depth or lasting interest in the subject-matter for its own sake (as opposed to drive-by "Wham-bam-thank-you-ma'am" DYK personalistic glory-seeking), then there probably would have been a more productive way of going about things... AnonMoos (talk) 14:52, 4 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately for you, your invocation of "WP:MERCILESS" was completely off-target, since I haven't offered the slightest objection in this context to having my writing be re-edited (and in fact, I thought at first that you were giving me permission to mercilessly re-edit what you had written!). I merely pointed out that if you had been trying to produce the best possible article and/or had been complying with certain norms of courtesy, then it would have been nice for you to give me a "heads-up" notification.  Too bad that you let your egotistical glory-seeking desire for more "DYK" credits override all such considerations.  With regards to the vainglorious boasting you left on my user talk page, competition for DYK credits etc. is only useful if it serves the goals of Wikipedia.  If it doesn't end up serving the goals of Wikipedia, then it should go the way of Esperanza. AnonMoos (talk) 11:32, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

thanks

 * thanks for the four award. It looks nice on my bling page. cheers – Ling.Nut (talk) 11:41, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * My thanks too - a pleasant surprise and much appreciated. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 11:53, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks again - I had no idea I had two Four Awards coming. Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:25, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I cleared out the entries under I (none were started by the FAC nominator(s), so all were no). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 16:56, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I checked my own FAs and only Clemuel Ricketts Mansion appears to be a four award recipient that is not yet so recognized (I do not do GA often). Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 17:07, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much for the four awards and all your work on them, Ruhrfisch &gt;&lt;&gt; &deg; &deg; 12:18, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Anne Hathaway (actress) GA "quick fail"
Hello TonyTheTiger, I have just made a comment/query at Talk:Anne Hathaway (actress)/GA2 and am wondering what your thoughts are. I'm not involved, and I don't mean to poke my nose in, it just seemed a bit of a strange "quick fail". -- Beloved Freak  15:23, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

Amazing Grace file
Thanks for your reply; my hesitancy is basically because I have a time / resource problem at the moment. Real life has taken its toll on the amount of time and effort I can spend on WP. Good luck in your efforts. Ben (Major Bloodnok) (talk) 17:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I will look over this and come back with a reply in a week or two. I think there may be a way to have at least one of the files on the article and remain a FS. --Guerillero &#124; My Talk  03:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Carly Foulkes
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Powers (FX TV series)
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:03, 5 August 2011 (UTC)

HWGA
Yes, there was. I'll try to work on it later tonight. — Andrew s talk  05:33, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops, I just saw it was uploaded by Vevo and assumed it was a video. I suppose not then. — Andrew s talk  05:44, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Andrew Brokos
PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:05, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

MJ Statue
You seem to be the guy who does all the Chicago stuff. I think that the Michael Jordan statue, at the United Center, warrants an article of its own, due to its artistic merit, as well as the fact that it was, in essence, created "prematurely". Would you consider creating it? 98.82.189.203 (talk) 05:52, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 98.82.189.203 (talk) 05:07, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * So, what's the word? 98.82.189.203 (talk) 06:09, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the update! 98.82.189.203 (talk) 07:51, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Talk:Shackleford (horse)/GA1
Sorry you had to wait a ridiculous amount of time to have this reviewed. Just a few things I'd like you to address.♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:43, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Congratulations Shackleford (horse) passed, unlikely to ever be a FAC though. Congrats also on your Top 40.♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:31, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Declaration of Independence
Tony, I'll see what I can do about finishing up the revisions you suggested in the GA nomination. It would be a shame to let the thing fail when TCO did so much work. --Coemgenus (talk) 12:08, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Loves Libraries
Sorry if I contacted you folks at the wrong page (sometimes wikimeetup groups are closely identified with their local wikiprojects, and sometimes not). Anyway, would be great to see Chicago join in on this one too, it looks like your Wiknic was a lot of fun :)--Pharos (talk) 11:29, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

A Star Is Born (2012 film)
Hey Tony! I noticed that you created A Star Is Born (2012 film) back at the beginning of this year. I have not found any sources that say the film has started principal photography and I don't think the film quite meets WP:Planned films. Would you consider an incubation of the article until the film has entered filming so it will meet WP:NFF? Thanks. BOVINEBOY 2008 19:29, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Michelle Williams GAN
Crystal Clear x3 06:26, 11 August 2011 (UTC) I've adressed the additional comments Crystal Clear x3 01:21, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

+ Crystal Clear x3 23:07, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

+ Crystal Clear x3 03:15, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

United States Declaration of Independence
I recently rescued this image from deletion, and I thought of you. It's a guest and a resident of Tiger Temple in Thailand. I now give it to you for your extremely thorough and patient work reviewing the GA nom of United States Declaration of Independence. Thanks for doing this review, and for sticking with it after the original nominator left. It was great working with you! – Quadell (talk) 15:12, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Awards and prizes
Apparently you are in dire need of a dictionary. "Mark as inactive" and "delete" are not synonyms. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Otters want attention) 02:07, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Done
I have promoted Carly Foulkes to GA. Nice job! Mike  2  8  9  19:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback
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AFI lists
The difference between the AFI lists and the Time 100 lists is that AFI has explicitly granted permission and said that it considers the lists to be public domain. See Talk:AFI's 100 Years...100 Movies. --Michael Snow (talk) 19:59, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Loves Libraries - Chicago
Hi Tony. I've added a brief section of 'Sample activities for the day' to WP:WLL, and also linked to the helpful British Library Edit-a-thon example.--Pharos (talk) 23:00, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

"Here We Go Again"
Sorry for late reply. I just logged in to Wikipedia after a break (no internet) and saw that "Here We Go Again" did not make it through the FAC. I'll try to find a source for that statement. <b style="font-family:Arial; color:CornflowerBlue;">Novice7</b> (<b style="font-family:Arial; color:DodgerBlue;">talk</b>) 12:49, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Chicago Meetup

 * Hi, I'm an editor living in Chicago interested in the meetup. Was there a specific branch you had in mind, such as the Harold_Washington_Library? <b style="color:green; font-family:Corbel;">I, Jethrobot</b> drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 18:46, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I've been thinking a little bit about the meetup. I see that you are part of the WikiProject for Chicago, and I'm actually interested in writing about a few buildings in my neighborhood that have historical significance.  Could we use some of the time during the meetup learning how to look up historical records on Chicago buildings, or more generally, spend time starting/improving Chicago-relevant articles? <b style="color:green; font-family:Corbel;">I, Jethrobot</b> drop me a line (note: not a bot!) 22:45, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * It is likely to be a edit-a-thon. Thus, there will be lots of time devoted to starting/improving Chicago-relevant articles.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 22:49, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Careful
Tony, I'm not sure you properly understand why you were topic-bannned from FS. Your constant posting to Guerillero's talk page is also somewhat of a problem. I'm going to limit you to three posts to a user talk page, per 24-hour period. (The exception is your own user talk, of course).

You're a good person, and I fully accept that you want what's best for the project.

Please understand that this is for your own good. DS (talk) 03:20, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

NFL roster template list
I proposed a resolution at the discussion that I suggest you look at. RevanFan (talk) 15:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Online Ambassadors: Time to join pods
Hello! If you're planning to be an active Online Ambassador for the upcoming academic term, now is the time to join one or more pods. (A pod consists of the instructor, the Campus Ambassadors, and the Online Ambassadors for single class.) The Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) explains the expectations for being part of a pod as an Online Ambassador. (The MOU for pods in Canada is essentially the same.) In short, the role of Online Ambassadors this term consists of:
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Once you've found a class that you want to work with&mdash;especially if you some interest or expertise in the topic area&mdash;you should sign the MOU listing for that class and get in touch with the instructor. We're hoping to have at least two Online Ambassadors per pod, and more for the larger classes.

If you're up for supporting any kind of class and would like me to assign you to a pod in need of more Online Ambassadors, just let me know.

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 * Thanks Tony! I'll pair you with a pod next week. --Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 14:23, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK nom for 2011–12 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
Hi Tony, I have reviewed your nomination at Template talk:Did you know/2011–12 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team and there is a small problem that should be addressed before I approve it. Could you please read my comments and reply on the nomination page? Thank you. Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:15, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for 2011–12 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team
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The Marco Polo Centurion triple crown
Heartiest congratulations on this mammoth achievement! Well done! – SMasters (talk) 03:10, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
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Talkback
<font style="font-variant:small-caps;"> Little Mountain  5   15:07, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Template:NBA roster footer
You are invited to join the discussion at User talk:Martin tamb. —Bagumba (talk) 15:58, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Shandi Finnessey
The article Shandi Finnessey you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Shandi Finnessey for comments about the article. Well done! &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 02:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Harold Washington Cultural Center
The Harold Washington Cultural Center article hasn't gotten much attention since 2007. The article suggests that things haven't been going very well for the center, but that's based on figures that are several years old. How is the center doing today? Also, whatever became of the catering controversy? Zagal e jo^^^ 02:35, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into that. I suppose you didn't find any updates for the Catering section? Zagal e jo^^^ 17:20, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:MLB roster footer
Template:MLB roster footer has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:36, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Checkers speech
Tony:

Thanks for recognizing one of my favorite articles, but I'm almost certain I did not make the first edit to the article; my DYK was for expansion. With my Nixon project brought to a successful conclusion with the promotion of the main article!--Wehwalt (talk) 00:35, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Preceded/Followed
The film infobox no longer uses these parameters. Just some cleanup. --01:43, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Tom Hanks Category order
Thanks for your comment.

The seventh bullet point in WP:CAT states "Normally the most essential, significant categories appear first." Since what a person does is more important to when they lived, their birth and death date categories should typically not be at the top of the list, and are more appropriate at the end of the category list. Truthanado (talk) 00:40, 29 August 2011 (UTC)


 * It's more than opinion and fairly common. As I copyedit new and random articles, I see it on a fairly regular basis. See, for example, Hermes França and Aage Indahl, both of which I stumbled on while randomly patrolling. Perhaps the discussion in WP:CAT should be more precise so that it becomes policy? Truthanado (talk) 09:47, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Edward Scissorhands (dance)
The article Edward Scissorhands (dance) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Edward Scissorhands (dance) for comments about the article. Well done! My76Strat (talk) 02:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

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For Your Eyes Only review
Hi Tony, Thanks for the GA review you undertook recently on For Your Eyes Only. Good call on the grave headstone: see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions for details, but essentially too close to call whether it is protectable or not, so have to err on the side of safety. I'll not be putting it back up and will ensure that it remains off the page. Thanks again. - SchroCat ( ^  •  @ ) 19:42, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
Was reading the signpost and had to blink a few times when I saw your contributions. Please enjoy this cute picture of a kitten as thanks for your awesome articles. DFTBA

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