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WikiCup 2012 August newsletter
The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:
 * 1) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
 * 2) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
 * 3) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
 * 4) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
 * 5) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
 * 6) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
 * 7) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
 * 8) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle:, , , , , , and. We hope to see you all next year.

On the subject of next year, a discussion has been opened here. Come and have your say about the competition, and how you'd like it to run in the future. This brainstorming will go on for some time before more focused discussions/polls are opened. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:26, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Remaining QPQs for the future

 * Template:Did you know nominations/Katy Parrish
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Kristy Pond--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

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South Side, Chicago FAR
I have nominated South Side, Chicago for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sorry Tony, this just isn't up to snuff. Pumpkin Sky  talk  15:41, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia Takes America/Chicago
Hello Tony,

My name is Catt and I organize some groups in the Chicagoland area and I might have some members who are interested in the photographing Chicago event on the 29th.

Could you please tell me the specifics about it?

You can contact me at playfulwithyou33@yahoo.com

Catt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Catt aka Playful (talk • contribs) 15:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

War and Peace template
Hey there! I presume that it's still being developed, but I want to raise a few points: 1)the novel, of course, is the main work. I don't understand why the title leads to the film series. 2)The 1967 film is the film series. It's not a single film at all. 3)There are many characters, related works etc. which have articles and should be included. Cheers. Bahavd Gita (talk) 16:04, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Sure, thanks for replying swiftly! Bahavd Gita (talk) 16:09, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for List of National Basketball Association season minutes leaders
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Orphaned and deleted first prior image of Hill Street Station
To let you know, it was tagged as orphaned but not by me. To be honest, this image is replaceable by text and unnecessary to illustrate. No real-world commentators have illustrated this still image of Daniel Travanti. --George Ho (talk) 20:59, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

File:Hill Street Station hostages robbers.jpg
Look, if you are so desperate, then take this to WP:REFUND, but I'm sure that this image is replaceable by text, as told by Masem. Even the plot itself doesn't need visual file. --George Ho (talk) 21:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC) In other words, text description is not that hard to illustrate in one's mind. In fact, text is obviously understandable. --George Ho (talk) 22:30, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I saw someone's response to your request in WP:REFUND. To help clarify (quote from WP:NFCR): "Right now, I don't think either would qualify; the images are not difficult to envision from a text description (two men arguing; a row of bound and gagged hostages in a liquor store) so they would technically fail on NFCC#1. Again, if either of those dramatic scenes - or any other scene in the show - was critically commented on, that may be a better image (for example, as the article is written, they describe the shooting of two officers at the (apparent) end of the episode that was highlighted by critics. There may be smething there.)"

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Hi Tony! Are you interested in being the Online Ambassador for any classes this term? We've got a few classes that are looking for ambassador right now (Canada, US), so if you're up for helping any, please do! Let me know if you have any questions, or if you'd like me to pick a course for you.--Sage Ross (WMF) (talk) 16:18, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for deciding to review
Tony, thanks for deciding to review Forward exchange rate and Interest rate parity. I am thankfully enjoying a free and open schedule this week, so I shouldn't have too much trouble responding and acting upon revision suggestions for the two reviews. I actually think it's a wise decision on your part to review those two articles in tandem, since they are quite related. I enjoyed working with you during the review of International Finance Corporation and look forward to working with you again. Cheers,  John Shandy`   &bull; talk 20:52, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Template: War and Peace
Hello. After considering it, I believe we'll either have to make some monster-template for all topics related (which would be quite redundant, since most articles are rather insufficient) or just forgo the idea for a while. At present, I see no point for having a template. Would you care to self-nominate it for deletion? Thanks. Bahavd Gita (talk) 10:42, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

The coverage of the topic is very poor and probably does not merit a template. But OK, I suppose it can be expanded in the future. However, I will remove it from the history articles, where it is a bit out of place, and retain it only in those directly related to the novel. Cheers! Bahavd Gita (talk) 19:27, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

No, it is I who should have not added them (and anyway, there are a billion more such mentioned in the novel). But, let's just keep it as it is. Many thanks. Bahavd Gita (talk) 04:48, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Berrios
bro, I think I could use a small quick solid over by the edit war notice board. got into a little kerfuffle over keeping it real w/ someone from Berrios' office, got stuck in a revert loop, my bad of course, of course - anyway if you could testify I'm not a monster or whatever else you see fit, thanks. one small part of my problem is out of towner editors reading a perfectly neutral well-sourced article on Joe Berrios and recoiling in horror - it MUST be blp violation! Hugh (talk) 23:46, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Tony, I strongly believe that article was BLP-problematic when I first flagged it. At the same time, I also believe it was 95% good and Hugh had done a lot of good work on it. HughD is trying to make a case for some of his proposed edits on the article talk page at Talk:Joseph Berrios‎; I think it would be helpful to get a neutral, 3rd-party, Chicago-savvy person such as yourself chipping in there. I want to avoid Hugh-and-Tony vs BLP-worrier factions, but some diplomacy on your part could go a long way towards taking Hugh's original massive effort to a really high -- and BLP-compliant -- level.


 * Thanks! -- A. B. (talk • contribs) 18:04, 14 September 2012 (UTC)


 * sry to bother. here's AB being diplomatic User_talk:Orlady AB's fav blp clean-up specialist can't believe what she's reading, has limit access to online databases, and is rallying the troops to a project to roll back several years of hard labor on the Chicago project. Berrios is protected so she's engaging in massive section blanking and rs deleting on Edward_M._Burke to trap me into a revert loop which show everyone i am a problem child, meanwhile she declines repeated requests to get down to the hard work of specifics in talk space. She's tried several angles with various degrees of traction, too much detail, sources are tabloids, bias of editor (me), but has settled on leaning heavily not so much on blp as much as undue in particular. She seems convinced there must be rafts of pro-subject rs out there i am blowing past and her being unable to check is very frustrating for her, so she deletes neutral content and rs waving the blp flag, then apparently I am to prove a negative, that the favorable rs does not exist, or else i am being ask to find some pleasant rs to offset what she perceives as un, and until i can do so best say nothing at all. I'm trying to help her thru a thorough understanding of the full implications of the critical role of rs in weight disputes and how good access to quality rs is something of a pre-req to undue claims, but she seems to be clinging to a notion of balance as 50/50 nice/not so nice. I'm relatively unfamiliar with navigating the politics on wp. I'd like to get back to work in content space Hugh (talk) 13:38, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
 * out-of-state: Berrios's race for assessor was covered by the NYT, the Burkes' custody battle was covered nationally & internationally; at issue is hard to say since i have been largely unsuccessful in trying to focus our attention on specifics. i will learn more about the specific Berrios issues once the prot expires. the Burke editor has tried justifying section blanking and rs deletion with "sources are not rs", "editor is biased", "article is non-neutral", but the very most recent tack is a geeeral reference to tone. thanks i think getting down to specifics is exactly what is needed. I know you fought hard for the Toni P & Sandy J articles, as you know they were a huge early influence on my contributions and they rely heavily on the Trib, s/t, and Chicago mag. Hugh (talk) 15:02, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

I passed Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 DC HSM lens
I passed it, but I don't know where to add it to the Good Article list! ChrisGualtieri (talk) 23:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

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Anna Karenina
Sorry, don't understand much about that. But as the novel is not related to history like War and Peace, I don't think there's something missing. Cheers! Bahavd Gita (talk) 05:50, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Sigma 8-16mm f/4.5-5.6 DC HSM lens
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RfC on differentiating reference syntax in editing window
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Fairy tale templates
Tony, I don't have time at the moment to go into this, but the Perrault templates you're adding aren't really accurate. Almost all of Perrault's tales existed before he wrote them - they weren't original. If we have to have all those templates on each page, then it would be better to simply refer to the name of the tale and not the author. I can explain much more later when I'm off wiki-break if you're interested. Also some if it is explained in Histoires ou contes du temps passé - but that page isn't yet finished. Still a lot to be added in regards to the fact that the tales were adaptions and about the origins. These templates are simply erroneous and contain stuff that has nothing to do with Perrault. Truthkeeper (talk) 23:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for changing these. One more thing: for Little Red Riding Hood we need to verify the information about The Tale of Jemima Puddle-Duck. It's probably correct but almost certainly placed there by a sock and I try to scrub material from that user/s (or verify it) whenever I come across it. Truthkeeper (talk) 21:55, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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On my way
I'm on my way. I don't know how long it'll take me to find parking near the Marshall Fields, but I'll get there as soon as possible. Don't take off without me! :-) Taric25 (talk) 16:01, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

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WP:TFL reboot
Hello TonyTheTiger. I just wanted to thank you for selecting submissions for TFL. Recently, at WT:TFL, there's been a lot of concern that the system has become stuck, that new nominations are being discouraged by the lengthy queues in place, and that my selections for TFL haven't been diverse enough. To that end, I've rebooted the system. In short, we will no longer have a submissions and prep page, just a submissions page. We'll limit the number of submissions to ten. The community can comment on, support, oppose etc the inclusion of any of the submissions. Directors will have final say on what goes on main page when. I've deleted all selections made from mid-October to Christmas to give others the opportunity to get involved. I'm sorry that so much of your efforts now have been, well, delayed I guess, and hope that you'll continue to support our process, as we try to improve and ultimately get more main page exposure. Feel free to ping me about any of this. Thanks again. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:26, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

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Hello Tony the Tiger. I'm the instructor for a section of students at Ball State University in Indiana USA who are beginning a collaborative research project on Wikipedia for our Introduction to Digital Literacies class. I've been teaching with WP since Spring 2011; from my user page you can see a few example projects highlighted. We are currently in need of an online ambassador to advise five class groups on selecting topics and putting articles together: this means there will be five topics for an ambassador to assist with. Might you be interested in helping us? You can see the project timeline in my user area project subpage.

I have gone through the appropriate channels and application documents with the Wikimedia folks in charge of education programs, but have not heard back in nearly two weeks (I've emailed Jamie Mathewson twice). But time is getting short and we must begin—thus I'm taking the liberty of contacting potential ambassadors directly. Thanks for your consideration and good luck with your projects! (Please forgive the duplication—I'm also sending this message by email.) –Webster Newbold (talk) 15:26, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

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19 South LaSalle

 * Excellent. I work downtown everyday, and still hadn't a chance to get a decent shot. Thanks Tony.IvoShandor (talk) 16:46, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

South Side
For this FAR, there is still one cite needed tag left. Pumpkin Sky  talk  18:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)