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Speedy deletion of Sydney Hilton bombing/extracts
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 * copied from article talk page:

This page is not a primary article (does not appear when searched for main article). Instead it contains extracts that provide references and citations for the primary article.

It is certainly not an infringement under any copyright laws. Extracts, properly cited and acknowledged, less than a chapter etc. are always ok under fair use. And I could probably get explicit permission from the newspaper. But the extracts are sadly not directly available on the web.

The fact that they are NOT in our words is the point, people want accessible reference material.

I could put them up on a private site, but it would be better to keep them all within the Wikipedia umbrella.

So, given that copyright is not the issue, what is the best way of doing this.

02:07, 15 March 2008 (UTC)tuntable


 * sorry, it is our policy not to include this material within WP, except in short quotations as relevant within an article. I've had to delete it. We are not a collection of sources, fair use or otherwise. Even if it were public domain, we would not include it. 04:47, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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Shell speeds do not make sense
I deleteted the following because the numbers simply do not add up. The muzzel velocity was 660m/s, so 10 seconds should give about 6600m, or 20,00 ft. Worse, the shell seems to speed up as the height and angle is increased. Tuntable (talk) 03:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The shell took 10.1 seconds to reach 5,000 ft (1,500 m) fired at 25° above horizontal, 15.5 seconds to reach 10,000 ft (3,000 m) at 40°, 22.1 seconds to reach 15,000 ft (4,600 m) at 55°.[1]


 * Take a piece of paper and draw the lines at the degrees indicated. You will discover that at 25° the shell spends most of its time travelling horizontally and little vertically (i.e. long range at low altitude), wheras at 55° it spends most of its time travelling vertically (short range at high altitude). Hence at 25° it travels 11,831 feet in total in attaining 5,000 feet altitude (5000 / sin 25), while travelling 10,723 feet horizontally; and 18,312 feet in total in attaining 15,000 feet altitude at 55° (15000 / sin 55) while travelling 10,503 feet horizontally. This assumes the shell travels in a straight line whereas it actually travels in a parabola, the mathematics of which are beyond me, but the straight-line calculations are close enough. I have restored the original text. Rod. Rcbutcher (talk) 05:58, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

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Space Race article
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Great ape language
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November 2012
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September 2014
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Office 365. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. Codename Lisa (talk) 11:06, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Office 365
Hello, Tuntable

I received your message, which was an indicator of your passion. Nevertheless, I wish you had studied your own sources more carefully; the article too.

Problem: Your contribution to Office 365 is self-contradictory, contradictory and wrong. Self-contradictory because it says two opposite things. Contradictory because article already says something like what your contribution says and your contribution contradicts it. And wrong because nobody says "Office 365" to mean "Click-to-Play" or "Office Web Apps". These two are available outside Office 365.

There are many good unreferenced contributions out there. Yours is not one of them. Synthesis of multiple sources that implies what none of them say it is bad because it yields false results, not because it is against some policy. If you wish to resolve contradictions, I will gladly cooperate with you in the article talk page.

Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 08:27, 20 September 2014 (UTC)


 * I see that you are continuing to revive the personal attack in my talk page and revert to the version that you like, breaking BRD. Discussion seems not to be your priority. Personal attack and breaking BRD together are called edit warring. Although, judging by your edit summary, you already know it.


 * This is your last warning. If you continue this uncollegial behavior, you risk losing your editing privileges.


 * Best regards,
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Correct name
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2014 Sydney hostage crisis
Hi there.

I saw your comments about the Sydney Hostage situation, where you were referring to the gunman Monis only actually killing one person, and the rest being killed by police. I had actually been told (back when I was following the case) that he hadn't killed anyone at all. Anyway, either way, I think that it is very relevant to the article, especially from a historical perspective, as it possibly indicates that this was a case of "mad panic when there wasn't any need for it", and that the deaths were caused primarily by the incorrect designation of this as a terrorist incident more than by the gunman himself (I am also unsure if "gunman" is the correct term - perhaps just "culprit" is better?) I am sure that 10 or 20 years from now people will be looking at this and saying "why on earth was this such a big story?" I mean, seriously, the very next day, in Sydney, there was a hostage situation that barely even made the news. Yet Wikipedia sees the need to name this one as the Sydney Hostage situation, and not the other one. Hostage situations, unfortunately, happen all the time, and they often aren't even newsworthy. The main reason that this was newsworthy was because it was an Arab Muslim man. For me, this shouldn't have had the level of publicity it had. Perhaps if it hadn't had this much publicity then nobody would have died. Oh, and around here we called it the chocolate shop siege, so as to distinguish it from all of the other hostage situations. It is pretty rare for someone to hold up a chocolate shop! It is not rare for someone to have hostages and lay siege to somewhere.

If you have any ideas for how to present this in a way that is fair and balanced, then we could probably get it put into the article. As it is a very controversial article, it is probably best to present it on the talk page first. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 02:49, 21 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Actually, cross that. I wrote this based on reading the talk page, not the article itself, and I now see that it has already been added to the article.  Gah!  It is in the lead paragraph, no less.  I am still wondering, though, if it is good to use the term "gunman", given he only fired 1 shot.  Perhaps the term "culprit" is better.  What do you think?  Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 02:58, 21 April 2015 (UTC)

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Sydney siege inquest split from 2014 Sydney hostage crisis
I loved your work on covering the inquest from the Sydney siege, and have copied and pasted it into its own separate article, at Sydney siege inquest with a link to it from its parent article. I think that there is enough consensus that this is warranted.

You are better at writing it than I am, and I'd like to encourage you to continue to contribute it. I am just writing to inform you of the new article. My apologies that your username isn't linked with the article.

I definitely think that a separate article is warranted, based on the quote from the reputable Sydney Morning Herald, who said "this is the most important report in New South Wales history". When they say that, it warrants its own article, for sure, and I see parallels between this and the Trial of Oscar Pistorius in terms of coverage. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 13:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

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Hi Tuntable, thanks for your message. No worries about the grammar fixes, but I'm not too sure I can help re the formatting - I only have a very basic idea of what GUI even means, so no I'm not using anything like that. I am working on a computer rather than a mobile device, could that be the difference for how it is appearing for you? Your edits appear to me to have breaks in the middle of paragraphs, which I assumed was a mistake, but guess might be indicative of something else, but unfortunately I don't know what? I'm sure there are wiki-editors who would know much more than me about that kind of thing though. Melcous (talk) 08:44, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

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Googles ideological Echo Chamber
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Splitting up TLS
I certainly hope my reversions don't discourage you from contributing to WP, or even to the editing of the TLS article! That certainly isn't my intention. And yes, I'm aware you raised the issue of the article's length last September on the talk page. It can be difficult to get the many editors on this page to focus on broader issues, rather than narrowly editing a sentence or two or adding another row to a table. But I've had some success in the pass.

I'm sorry if I seem overly cautious in my approach to editing this particular page, but it does often get over 5,000 page views a day (more than 122,000 last month) and is therefore one of the most read computer science technical articles on WP. And thousands of edits have been made to it over the years.

Your proposal to move out the adoptions subsection is not a bad one, and if no one else strongly objects, then yes this section certainly stand on its own as its own page. But the TLS page will need a summary paragraph to be written that summarizes the info in the (newly created) main page for that section. You moved out the subsection but didn't supply readers with that summary. This is standard WP editing when a section reads "Main article ...". And the move broke a few internal references within the TLS article. The TLS adoptions page you created will also need a new lede to orient the reader and links back to the main article. But this wouldn't be a lot of work to pull together.

I recently shortened the security subsection and agree that it could do with a more editing as some of the info -- which was important breaking news when it was happening in 2013, 2014, etc -- now reads as a bit arcane. I'll try to get to this soon.

Are there other sections you think might stand well on their own?

Ross Fraser (talk) 06:27, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

Ways to improve Transport Layer Security Adoption
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Temperature change in an ideal gas
Hi Tuntable. At Ideal gas you wrote “An ideal gas does not cool on expansion or heat on compression. …” See your diff.

This is incorrect. The situation is correctly explained at Joule–Thomson effect (last paragraph) where it says “For an ideal gas, $$\mu_{\mathrm{JT}}$$ is always equal to zero: ideal gases neither warm nor cool upon being expanded at constant enthalpy.” (The bolded words are most significant. The bolding has been added by me.)

When a gas is compressed in a reversible adiabatic process its temperature and internal energy both rise. The increase in internal energy is equal to the work done on the gas during the compression process. This is true of ideal gases, and also real gases such as air. Identically, when a gas is expanded in a reversible adiabatic process its temperature and internal energy both fall. The fall in internal energy is equal to the work done on the surroundings by the gas. This is true of ideal gases, and also real gases. When a gas is compressed or expanded in a reversible adiabatic process, entropy is constant throughout the process but enthalpy changes. I will comment on the constant-enthalpy process in the next paragraph.

The situation which sees an ideal gas undergo an isothermal change is the throttling process or Joule-Thomson expansion. This is a change which is definitely not reversible; it is an almost-explosive decompression and it can be shown to take place with no change in enthalpy (but an increase in entropy). When an ideal gas is throttled to a lower pressure the temperature of the gas remains unchanged; unlike the situation with real gases where the temperature falls a little (except for hydrogen, helium and neon whose temperatures increase upon throttling.) The throttling process cannot be used to increase the pressure of any gas – that would involve a decrease in entropy and so would violate the second law of thermodynamics.

I’m happy to discuss further. Dolphin ( t ) 08:27, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

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