User talk:Vsmith/archive11

'Spam Chop'
I will be instructing my solicitor refrence the printing of libelous material. I will remind you the onus is the on the person who printed the libelous material to prove what they said is true (without any doubt) and not vice versa. Should remedial action or suitable justification not be received promptly I will persue this case. I will be informing the owners of Wikipedia about said case also as this also involves them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Biggilo (talk • contribs) 15:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * see →Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents --Hu12 (talk) 15:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 18:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * YW ;)--Hu12 (talk) 18:31, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Global Warming
Hello Vsmith. Could you please justify your semi-protection of Global Warming on 2nd January, bearing in mind that pre-emptive semi-protection merely to prevent possible IP vandalism does not adhere to Wiki policy. Thanks, 86.31.45.177 (talk) 15:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Aw gee - were you unable to vandalize the page or did you just want to push a pov? Get yourself a username and we can discuss further if need be. AGF?? yeah, bouncing Ripenet anons get little of that here. Sorry 'bout that, Vsmith (talk) 15:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Your response suggests that you're not fit to be an admin. I'm going to look at the possibility of you being de-admined. 86.31.45.177 (talk) 16:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * My response was the result of the fact that the majority of ip edits from Ripe are throwaway pov pushing or vandalism. Now, I see by your edits elsewhere that you do have a user id, but apparently are "collecting evidence" regarding treatment of ip editors. Hmm... seems to me that you are thus misrepresenting yourself and are simply trolling. Solution: use your damned user id to edit and cut the crap. Now, if you wish to discuss further, use your username and we can talk. Vsmith (talk) 02:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Have you ever been on the opposite of an disagreement with ScieceApologist
This user won't give up, even when he is wrong. Anthon01 (talk) 19:47, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Please assume good faith, I am quite aware of the editing "problems" there, either real or perceived. So, simply leave him alone for a while as he works out his wiki plans and de-stresses over it. Vsmith (talk) 19:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I assume AGF with SA, while I don't always agree with his tactics. Anthon01 (talk) 20:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

RfC: Does style guideline mean that all PD-sourced content is best placed in quotes?
Is this RFCstyle listing the preferred way to handle this low level, slow-burn dispute about cite style?

User:Doncram is acting on a conviction that PD-source tags are tantamount to a representation of plagiarism. He has been engaged in discussion on several article talk pages, a template talk page, and a style guideline discussion page, listed at RFC. He has stopped blanking PD-sourced content, but continues to exhort editors, and revert their reverts, insisting that PD sourced content needs to be enclosed in quotes with intext cites to conform to Wikipedia style guidelines. --Paleorthid (talk) 20:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't really know where the best discussion forum for this is. I'm not fond of long pd text dumps, but am aware that a lot of the early article building was accomplished that way. And, I've clashed with SEWilco a time or two over it. We do need to re-write a lot of the outdated 1911 pd material, as time permits, but don't think the idea of large block quotes is a solution. Vsmith (talk) 01:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Good Job Vsmith!
Hi Vsmith,

I have been observing the entry Aristotle and I discovered that the day before yesterday you reverted Sunshinyness version: --- (cur) (last) 13:39, 21 January 2008 Vsmith (Talk | contribs) m (61,677 bytes) (Reverted edits by Sunshinyness (talk) to last version by 129.67.115.253) (undo) (cur) (last) 11:42, 21 January 2008 Sunshinyness (Talk | contribs) (61,240 bytes) (undo) --- For removing the following:

From the 3rd century to the 1500s, the dominant view held that the Earth was the center of the universe (geocentrism). This scientific concept, as proposed by Aristotle and Plato was later adopted as dogma by the Roman Catholic Church because it placed mankind at the center of the universe, and scientists who disagreed, such as Galileo, were considered heretics. This erroneous concept was eventually rejected.

Good Job!! It's thanks to people like you that wikipedia is becoming reliable!

I got curious and read what follows:

Who Geologist - MS, 1975, The University of Arizona. Currently a "torturer of teenagers" (high school science teacher) and a dabbler in almost anything scientific. {B-)}

[edit] Long, long time ago In what seems like another universe now, I was a U.S. Marine - spent almost two years in 'nam. Radio op with MAG-36, chopper outfit, mostly in and around Ky Ha copter pad north of the Chu Lai airbase. Took a trip to 'nam aboard the USS Princeton (CV-37) in August '65 and flew back stateside June '67. Just in case anyone from that universe is surfing around wiki. Damn, that was a long time ago!

I have been in the italian Navy long long time ago as well.

I would be interested in knowing you better... if you are a facebook user please poke me. I consider myself another dabbler in almost anything scientific. °O) I will be in the New York facebook network for a month.

Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 09:11, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, Maurice, and thanks for the kind words. No, I don't have a facebook account and am a long way from NY. Happy editing (sorry for the delay replying - distracted for a bit) Vsmith (talk) 00:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Number48
You may wish to review Number48 in light of your previous actions, specifically. PouponOnToast (talk) 13:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, and thanks for the "heads-up". I saw this note between classes, but didn't have time to investigate and act then (live physics students to torture :). Now I see 48 has been indef'd. A well deserved block. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 00:14, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you Vsmith for responding to my AN/I report with corrective action. Much appreciated! -- M P er el 02:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. However, I made the block decision prior to seeing your ANI post as other events called his talk page to my attention. Vsmith (talk) 02:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just a comment, I know I'm not a 3rd party to this, but I think that essentially telling another user to go kill himself is hostile enough to merit a longer term or indefinite block. --Veritas (talk) 02:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Considering just that - I blocked for a week, but I or another admin may well extend the block. You are correct and I'd suggest posting a similar comment on Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents where I left it open for other admin review. Vsmith (talk) 02:56, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * And another thank you for following up with the stronger indef block which is certainly warranted in this case. -- M P er el  04:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Morgan is editing again as since this IP is in the same location as the other and clearly has the same interests. --Veritas (talk) 14:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes, and has been given a 1 week block by User:Black Kite. Vsmith (talk) 16:20, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandal
Hey, I reverted an article due to some vandalism and saw the user's talk page where you blocked the user for previous vandalism. is the target IP. Just letting you know he/she is at it again. Esoxid (talk) 17:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

about periodic table structure
from jc perez sorry, Dr Smith there is not a self promotion. I consider only that adding PREDICTIVE FORMULA paragraph increase a bit wikipedia periodic table knowledge and data... Thanks jc perez —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean-claude perez (talk • contribs) 07:51, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

predictive equation of periodic table: detailed data from jc perez
sorry for figures and graphics formula (I could send you a full text including them by email if you send me your email adress: jeanclaudeperez2@free.fr  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean-claude perez (talk • contribs) 10:27, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Figure 1: Conventional Empiric Mendeleev’s Table and new “X“ and “K“ diamonds-like modelling structures.

“Are there NUMBERS in the NATURE?” The MENDELEEV’s Table Generic EQUATION.

At IBM initially, then with “geNum” biomathematics Lab. thereafter, we have studied the phenomena of self-organization and global structures emergence such as “Fractal Chaos” for more than 25 years1. Particularly, we have then, since the end of the Eighties, make basic research about hypothetical mathematical structures of DNA and genomes 2 3. Our main question remains: “Are there Numbers in the Nature?” Let us take the example of the famous table of Mendeleev4, no one never had the idea to seek a possible mathematical law which would organize the information and the structure of "the most heterogeneous table of Science". We discovered this law: the equation of the table of Mendeleev. Here is a short summary: We discovered a simple equation which generates and predicts the structure of the table of Mendeleev. This equation predicts the number of elements of any layer of period "p" in the table according to the only value of this period "p". Beyond this mathematical modeling of the periodic table of the Elements, -This equation underlines, in its formulation, the " trace" of the 4 fundamental quantum Numbers. -This modeling predicts the structure of the hypothetical extensions of the table of Mendeleev towards possible Eléments (real) unknown which would be located beyond the last known radioactive Elements5. -This modeling also makes it possible to imagine an infinity of other Elements (virtual) which one could however predict positioning towards the low layers of the table, like their quantum properties. To summarize, if: -c(p) a horizontal layer of elements of the table of Mendeleev, -"p" the period associated with this c(p) layer such as p = [ 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 … ], -Int(v) the whole part of the numerical value "v". exp: if v=2.35, then Int(2.35)=2. Then, one obtains c(p), the number of elements contained in the c(p) layer of order p, by applying the formula: Examples : If p=1 è c(1)=2 If p=2 è c(2)=8    If p=3 è c(3)=8 If p=4 è c(4)=18  If p=5 è c(5)=18 If p=6 è c(6)=32  If p=7 è c(7)=32 If p=8 è c(8)=50  If p=9 è c(9)=50 …/…                  If p=16è c(16)=162 Generic and predictive natures of the equation: Can one extrapolate this law beyond the periods for which it is checked (periods 1 to 7)? Which would be the properties of a hypothetical period 8? Researchers predict the existence of hypothetical Eléments 126 and even 164 78. If these elements existed, they would belong to a "eighth period" (since periods 1 to 7 can contain only 118 Elements). However, the quantum theory "predicts" that such a period 8 "should" contain 50 Elements. Effectively, to the 32 Elements corresponding to layer 7 would come to associate an additional long block of 18 elements, the "octadécanides". As we will see it, it would correspond to the quantum block "g", which contains 9 orbital (m = [ +4, +3, +2, +1, 0, -1, -2, -3, -4 ], these 9 states, compounds with the 2 states of the "spin", lead well to 2x9 = 18 additional Elements). It is exactly what our equation predicts (see details in WEB supplementary information). Graphical structures overview: This equation makes it possible to propose new graphic designs of the Mendeleev’s table6: -« 2-dimensions conventional table » : it is the usual representation in which lanthanides were reintegrated in their place. This table extends by bottom when p increases. -« 3-dimensions X diamonds-like » : this structure underlines the double symmetry of growth of the crystal-like table. It is made of 4 regular pyramids with square bases forming "XX" for face view, "X" for side view, and 2 squares adjacent by an angle in sights of top and below. When p grows, the extension is done alternatively by bottom and the top. -« 3-dimensions K diamonds-like » : This structure is most realistic: it amalgamates alignments by columns of the traditional table with the 3-dimensional structure. We have 4 orthogonal pyramids with square bases. Please visit WEB supplementary information for details. Strong Relationships between the 4 Quantum Numbers and Mendeleev’s Table Equation : Niels Bohr established the relation between the position of each Element in the periodic table and its electronic structure. The chemical properties of each Element are thus totally determined by the distribution of the electrons of this Element. The properties and positionings of these electrons, themselves, are determined by the laws of Quantum Physics. It is related to the wave equation of Schrödinger which establishes these distributions of probabilities of energies of the electron. These waves functions name the " orbitals ". Thus, with any electron identifiers are associated: they are the 4 Quantum Numbers. One successively defines “n”, “l”, “m”, and “s”, the 4 quantum numbers. We show in additional WEB supplementary information that our Mendeleev’s Equation includes strong links with the 4 quantum numbers: One thus finds, in this new concise writing of the generic equation, the explicit trace of 2 among the 4 quantum Numbers: "n" and "m": = 2 = 2 where m and n are the magnetic and principal quantum numbers of index p.

To conclude : -1- The periodic table of the Elements is modélisable. It is structured by a numerical structure of whole numbers. -2- This structure is deterministic and predictive, then, for any period p, it can be calculated by applying "the generic equation of Mendeleev" which we discovered. -3- The generic equation is completely controlled by the four quantum Numbers. -4-This generic equation makes it possible to check the regularity of the common table of Mendeleev, but it can also "predict" and anticipate the existence of hypothetical Eléments now unknown, of which it makes it possible to determine the quantum properties, then electronic and chemical hypothetical properties. Jean-claude Perez #£ Email : jeanclaudeperez2@free.fr £ geNum inc : 1134, chemin Saint Louis Sillery Quebec G1S 1E5 Canada References: —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jean-claude perez (talk • contribs) 10:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) genEthics foundation : 7 av de terre-rouge F33127 Martignas France


 * Belongs on article talk page. Vsmith (talk) 01:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

break
stop deleting what i wrote!!!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Neogotchi (talk • contribs) 07:22, 5 February 2008 (UTC)


 * sorry 'bout that - but no. Vsmith (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Mole (unit) - and others
I am the user that provided visionlearning modules as external links on some articles a few weeks back. I would like to include a link to relevant material on those topics for teachers and students on the Visionlearning website, an open-source, federally funded science teaching initiative, nearly ten years old. Visionlearning contains peer-reviewed, and freely available teaching resources in science and math written specifically for educators and students. I believe the link to this material will enhance the wiki content as it provides a means for teachers and students to access further information on a topic, and since it is written specifically for an educational audience, will help legitimize the content on wiki in these circles. Also, may I point out that Visionlearning is completely non-profit. oking83


 * And you are associated with this great site? Enhancing Wikipedia means adding good solid sourced content, not just a link to your favorite great site. Vsmith (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No, I am not affiliated with Visionlearning, besides using it regularly in my classes. I am a college professor, and I use web-based teaching methods as much as I can, including Wikipedia.  My students routinely encounter Visionlearning modules in our internet searches (often near the top of a Google search for some science terms, along with Wiki), and these two sources seem to complement each other well, but with very different goals.  Visionlearning can be used in the formal "My classroom" relationship as I do, or just as a good, reliable source of sound information written by experts but in understandable language, like Wiki.  Either way, I think that Visionlearning as an external link on some of the Wikipedia pages does indeed enhance the Wiki experience for many of the very people that would have ended up on that page, and that was why I added them. Oking83 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 18:03, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * College prof. - good, then you have access to a library and journal sources ... so why not add content rather than just adding external links - that's what this project is all about. Did you discuss this with User:JoshuaZ or just remove his comment on your talk page with no discussion? Please read WP:EL as he recommended. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 02:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Blocked
Vsmith, IP address 192.203.136.252 is registered to a public library! 66.99.216.2 (talk) 21:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * and... your point is? Vsmith (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Removal of Link
You recently removed an external link to Enviromentality (http:// environment-policy.info) I added to the entry for political ecology and stated that "links to web sites with which you are affiliated" are not appropriate. I read the guidelines for external links before adding this one and I did not see this rule so I am asking whether mere association with a web site is grounds for removal if the web site is otherwise a worthwhile link. I am not deriving any financial reward from generating external link traffic. Since that time I have also moved from anonymous to being a named user as that may have aroused some suspicion. Otherwise I thank you for keeping Wiki clean. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam Cherson (talk • contribs) 21:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Simple, as I see it, if you are associated in any way with the site - you don't link to it. You may bring this up on the article talk page and see if someone not related to the site feels a link is needed. Vsmith (talk) 23:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

OK since it appears that standing up for one's own work = self-promotion, no matter how worthy, I have recommended the link on the article talk page. I would suggest that a better test would be substantive value of the link since it would be fairly easy to employ a 'shill' to promote a link as well, wouldn't it? (3/29/2008) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.84.246.43 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 29 March 2008
 * Er... posting the request on that talk page was quite acceptable. However, you also re-added the link to several articles, and that kind of action will get the site blacklisted. We simply do not promote our own work. Vsmith (talk) 22:16, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup, consideral amount of promotional abuse. Should no longer be an issue. Its blacklisted--Hu12 (talk) 00:21, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Block of Hyperbole
His edits don't look like edit warring to me, and I don't see what the issue is (other than some of his strong language regarding the article's content, not any contributors). He's requesting unblock ... have you anything to add? Daniel Case (talk) 03:37, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I recommend an unblock if the first reference is restored. Quack   Guru  03:44, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * See Administrators'_noticeboard/3RR, the case was initially declined by User:TigerShark based on his interpretation. The additional reverts noted by User:QuackGuru there were considered. Yes, he was editing to improve the article based on his perception - but was fully aware of the 3rr case as he had removed a warning note by User:Orangemarlin from his talk page. Please review the details, if you feel an unblock is in order I would appreciate a note indicating your findings. Vsmith (talk) 03:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * After the reverts Hyperbole did some great editing. Unblock please! Quack   Guru  03:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I disagree. He should not only be blocked for 24 hours, but I think a month-long block will cut out his edit warring.  He has a POV, and he won't stop.   Orange Marlin  Talk• Contributions 04:20, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

QG - he cannot restore the first reference, he is blocked - and now you want him unblocked because he did some great editing ... The block was for 3rr and edit warring, not for great editing. OM - ease off a bit and don't antagonize him further on his talk. If you have evidence to support a longer block - for whatever reason - then take it to the proper place. Saying that He has a POV, and he won't stop. is rather odd - we all have a pov, you included, will you stop? Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 04:48, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Consciousness causes collapse
Hi Vsmith,

Please review the recent changes that commenced when SA returned from his recent 72 hour block, and I'd request that you restore the previous stable version as it existed prior to these massive and undiscussed changes. This is a repeatedly problematic behaviour from this particular user, see here for starters. I will post additional diffs as needed in support of this request. Thanks, WNDL42 (talk) 15:31, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry 'bout that, we're s'posed to protect the wrong version :-). The diffs provided on 3rr do indicate you were in violation and looking at the page history SA may have been also. As others were involved in the reverting - the situation seemed to me to merit a protect rather than blocking anyone at this point. Please settle on the article talk page. Vsmith (talk) 15:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Sexcuse me, sir...
I was wondering how one would get a "wiki bot". Google's not helping me one bit. Vael Victus (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Try Ebay, everything for sale there :-) Vsmith (talk) 23:09, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for clarification on links...
Vsmith,

Thanks for the clarification on adding links to websites members are affiliated with, my bad.

- Wholebrainer —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wholebrainer (talk • contribs) 05:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. Vsmith (talk) 02:20, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Block
Since you were able to come to a decision to block me, could you explain to me why BLP policy - Editors should remove any contentious material about living persons that is unsourced, relies upon sources that do not meet standards specified in Wikipedia:Verifiability, or is a conjectural interpretation of a source (see Wikipedia:No original research). The three-revert rule does not apply to such removals - does not apply in my case. Thanks.Momento (talk) 13:08, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't see it that way. What I do see is an apparent single purpose editor who has edited the Prem Rawat and related pages something like 400 to 500 times since Jan 1. Do you have a conflict of interest here. Also I observed an admin with a conflict of interest in the matter improperly stalling a simple 3rr report. My suggestion to you - go edit some other article for a while and take a break on the subject. Could be that I've misinterpreted things, but I call 'em as I see 'em. Now, I usually avoid cult articles - but I'll be watching that one for a bit considering the edit warring in progress there. Further edit warring on your part could lead to a longer block. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 14:52, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * It goes without saying that editors only edit articles they have an interest in.Momento (talk) 00:09, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

insult
So far I have been accused of spamming and conflict of interest. In the future I will, give no personal references to any entry - no matter how relevalent. I am a Korean War veteran and don't need the hassle. Don Mattox —Preceding unsigned comment added by Don Mattox (talk • contribs) 03:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi Don, and thanks for your edits. The notices I and others have left on your talk page were not meant as insults, rather we were trying to communicate and inform you of Wikipedia policies - I apologize if the notes seemed insulting. Wikipedia needs expert input from those like yourself with academic and real world expertise. I hope you can recognise the potential problems of an anyone can edit encyclopedia when individuals try to use it as "free advertising" or "free promotion of their wacko ideas". Because of that reality, Wikipedia has instituted rather strict policies on external links and self promotion and I hope you can recognize the potential problem. I do hope you continue to share your expertise with us, mindful of the relevant policies - we need editors like you. Also please note that I replaced a page Society of Vacuum Coaters of yours which had been speedily deleted by another admin - we now need to add content to improve it and establish it's notability within Wiki guidelines. I know little about your field of engineering - I'm a science teacher with a geological background, but am willing to work with you to improve those articles and learn something along the way.
 * And... please accept my thanks and gratitude for your sevice to our country in that often "forgotten war" - sincerely, Vsmith (talk) 04:28, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Civility and cooperation
Vsmith, please avoid personal remarks such as this.

The Washington Times Foundation is not the same thing as The Washington Times. If you had checked, you would have seen that there is no mention of it in the article to which you redirected the page I started.

What I need help with is not "how to do it"; having been around here longer than you, I'm well aware of technique. I was hoping someone would join me in the research and writing. --Uncle Ed (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry 'bout that, but starting a substub w/out bolding the title or getting the stub tag right or categorizing ... seemed rather newbieish to me. Making a mess and expecting someone else to clean it up seems quite inconsiderate. ...been around here longer than you... ?? - then start acting like it, civility also includes not leaving messes for others to clean. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 14:06, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Hoover dam edit
Good move!! I kept wondering "who cares?" but not enough to actually do anything. - Denimadept (talk) 17:08, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks - I expect to hear howls of protest from the movie trivia crowd. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 23:04, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you please expand on your message?
You sent me a polite (thank you), but not very specific message. It read: "Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a mere directory of links nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that exist to attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam policies for further explanations of links that are considered appropriate. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it."

I admit I may not have been as judicious as necessary, but I was adding links to benefit the wikipedia community at large. I'm not sure which links you took issue with, but I've been making edits, usually sparingly, for a couple years now and never received such a message, so it was somewhat of a personal affront. Could you please reference the links I added that you disliked, and further could you please tell me why; this information would help me greatly in my future (i.e., with regard to staying within community guidelines). I'm a fan of wikipedia on many levels, and want not for wikipedia to become a non-fan of me!

In short, I added links that brought further insight to the specific pages they were added to. My links, from what I recall, ranged from adding appropriate TED Talks, some germane blogs, and a few external generic websites with useful information (e.g., university of chicago biographies of people mentioned in the article, a Daylife page from the CEO of Denuo, one site about what exactly communication means).

I work for a law firm in Salt Lake City, and that I know of have never once linked to our firm, cases prosecuted by our firm, or anything involving our clients, which would be wholly controversial.

Thanks for your time VSmith, I look forward to your specificity.

Matt —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skishoo2 (talk • contribs) 22:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, looking at your contribution history, I see that the last eight or so edits in a row (all of your edits in Feb.) have been simply adding external links. That, rather than any one link, was what prompted the canned message I left on your talk page. Please read to guidelines on WP:EL - Wikipedia is not a list of links. I meant no offense with that note, but, please add sourced content rather than just helpful links. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 23:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Edits reversed in Huygens page
Hello Vsmith,

I noticed you have reverted my recent edits on the "Huygens probe" page. I made those edits anonymous (134.76.235.93), because I thought they were a minor correction and I didn't have my password at hand.

Apparently, my "corrections" are controversial. Let me explain my rationale. I would like to substitute the possessive >>Huygens's< >Huygens'<< because:

1. I think it is ugly and looks rather silly, maybe because...

2. In the Dutch language, which also uses the possessive apostrophe, it is plainly wrong (and Huygens is a Dutch name)

3. I have never encountered this form in the scientific and popular Huygens literature (and I've read dozens of papers), except on this Wikipage

4. I have never HEARD anyone use this form (which should be pronounced "Huygenses"), including many American and British scientists. This would be the rational for using this form, according to the Wikipage on the possessive apostrophe

So, >>Huygens'<< is (also) correct, and I feel BETTER than >>Huygens's<<. Maybe you felt I was vandalizing the page (editing anonymously), but I was merely trying to improve the page's readability. I ask now you to allow my previous edits. Admittedly, I am inexperienced in editing, so if you do not agree, should I take it to the "discussion" page?

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozric13 (talk • contribs) 12:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry 'bout that - your edits got caught in a vandalism sweep - guess I saw the nowiki bits and just assumed... I've reverted myself, Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 16:36, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know who you are, But I know who I am.
I am Rodney Smith, I was born in Bisbee, and many years ago I decided to create a few Bisbee webpages giving my perspective of Bisbee as a person that grew up there and still views himself as a resident. I am no more a spamer than you are a resident of Bisbee. My walking tour and website are real and not spam. In a given year I provided about 10 walking tours and make no money from them. But I do satisfy visitors to Bisbee with history and exercise. Before you cut my link again come on a 2 hour walking tour with me.

My page is just as relavent as the Bisbee observer page which no longer give news on line.

Please leave my link alone.

By the way, Bisbee.net is not commercial in any great quantity either. Charlie also grew up in Bisbee too. Years ago when he started his website, there were a few pay customers, but now like so many things in Bisbee, his is a work of love.

I have to admit that I took out the cattle ranch link, which I consider about as Bisbee as Wilcox is a mining town.

Go after the real spammers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bisbeewall (talk • contribs) 04:02, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:COI, WP:SPAM and WP:EL. Adding your websites to Wikipedia articles seems to violate all three of those policies. Sorry 'bout that. Vsmith (talk) 04:11, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for reverting the edits to Talk:Coal made recently by 163.153.240.250. The school district has found the students involved and have taken appropriate action. --NERIC-Security (talk) 12:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Link
Hi. This is regarding the link to http://www.shopgemstones.com/31.html on the emerald page. This is an important link to this section because there is no other information like this there on how to value emeralds. The site does not sell anything. I think you should look through the information on the site and make sure it does not benefit wikipedia users before deleting the link.

QG

 * The accusations of vandalism by Mr. Guru ring hollow; and is not supported by the evidence. On the contrary, however, Mr. Guru has already been banned within the last month for canvassing and disruptive editing, in particular to the chiropractic article. Given the fact that Mr. Guru is a recidivist, would a long block not be more appropriate, Vsmith? Thanks in advance! (PS: I apologize for posting this on the wrong page; thanks for the heads up). EBDCM (talk) 02:43, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for bringing it here rather than kicking him while he's down...
 * Anyway, the block was preventative and not intended to be punitive in any way. I am aware of the block history of both editors involved. If you feel further action is needed, I'd suggest an editor rfc or other procedures. I would also suggest that you refactor your recent comment on Talk:Scientific investigation of chiropractic and keep the focus on the edits rather than on commenting on QG's record and editing style. Your comments there do not help the situation and could be seen as a personal attack. Vsmith (talk) 02:59, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Generally speaking, my interaction with most editors here is civil and pleasant; however given QGs tactics and history of recidivism my fuse sometimes runs short with him. He also continuously inserts (repeatedly with many editors reverting him) his personal piece despite numerous attempts by the community to discuss it on Talk (which we did and the article was a candidate for deletion) yet he persists despite consensus.  Furthermore, his attempts to try and discredit many other editors who do not share his vitriol of chiropractic is beginning to wear thin. I am not familiar with procedural protocols with respect how to deal with this appropriately and I would appreciate some guidance.  EBDCM (talk) 18:20, 5 March 2008 (UTC)


 * See Requests for comment. Note carefully the rules on the Request comment on users section. Consider possible implications and gather your evidence to be presented as diffs. You should discuss the problem behavior with others and definetly do not use the rfc as an attack platform. As I've never filed an rfc, just commented and endorced a few, I'm probably not your best bet as an advisor. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 00:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Mid-Atlantic ridge
On the subject of Mid-Atlantic ridge. You flagged my ip address for ip hopping. I like to call it leaving the office and going home. You jump to conclusions too fast. The theory I posted is valid and I've defended it several times on user's deleting the theory from the page. On no grounds is the theory not relevant. The theory has been discussed on national TV and has sufficient scientific backing as much as Wegener's theory. Wegener's theory is a little over 50 years old. It isn't the end of the discussion, but the beginning of the discussion. Re-post the theory or I'll assume you're politically and secularly motivated and and disturbing the peace on this forum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.251.40.176 (talk) 14:19, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * "Scientific backing" -- that's plain hilarious. Yes, Incredible Discovery of Noah's Ark. 1993. Grizzly Adams Production is obviously a WP:Reliable source and a bastion of peer-reviewed science. Geesh, get real... And you're ordering me to repost this crap - not a chance mate, and you may assume whatever you wish. Please read WP:NPA, and WP:FRINGE and be advised that this is not a forum, it is an encyclopedia. If you insist on including it somewhere, then try creation science - who knows it may already be noted there. Wegener's theory is approaching 100 yrs and was most definitely not the end of the discussion. However Grizzly Adams TV show was not even a footnote to the story. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 00:10, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Wegener's theory has only been mainstream since the 1960's and whether 50 or 100 years has elapsed, the theory is not consecrated in the world's mind and could be debunked at any moment to be forgotten 10 years from now and replaced by a new fleeting theory. The optimal word in play here is "theory."  Not fact.  Neither Wegener or the theory I'm endorsing is fact.  I will admit though that the theory must have some scientific community backing to be considered relevant on this website.  Here is further evidence:

Repost the info any which way you want, but the theory deserves a space on the page because it is part of the evolving discussion on the Mid-Atlatic Ridge. And you're wrong, Wikipedia is not just an encyclopedia. It's a living encyclopedia which incorporates matters such as these. According to wp: fringe theory: "Creation science — The overwhelming majority of scientists consider this to be pseudoscience and say that it should not be taught in elementary public education. However the very existence of this strong opinion, and vigorous discussion regarding it amongst groups such as scientists, scientific journals, educational institutions, political institutions, and even the United States Supreme Court, give the idea itself more than adequate notability to have articles about it on Wikipedia."

wp:NPOV "The policy requires that where multiple or conflicting perspectives exist within a topic each should be presented fairly. None of the views should be given undue weight or asserted as being judged as "the truth", in order that the various significant published viewpoints are made accessible to the reader, not just the most popular one."--68.251.40.176 (talk) 01:57, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Please respect other Wiki-members contrbutions to content.
You have repeatedly removed SUBJECT-RELATED content from pages dealing with Magnet Cove, Arkansas & the geological related anomaly there. These pages are only stubs & one of them even has a REQUEST on it for Wiki-members familar with the area to add more content.....I have, several times, only to have it constantly reverted back by you into a very generalized stub. You do not OWN these pages...neither do I. I'm trying to provide further information on the subject, you are trying to keep them just like they were...using "spam" as an excuse for your actions & even going as far as to temporarily ban me. This further hampered my attempt to even discuss with you anything about WHY you feel that subject-related content shouldn't be included.

If you do not desire to discuss the matter, that's fine. But in that case, then let those of us who know something about the site (I've studied it for several years) add information to the page which may be of interest to others who study it also. Hampering the efforts of others to make the articles better, simply because you have nothing more detailed to add to them, is not very constructive to Wikipedia.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.14.215.240 (talk) 11:56, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Replied on user talk. Vsmith (talk) 14:00, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Thundereggs
Hi. For some reason you have deleated the external link i provided to a gallery of thunderegg images - and somehow the term 'spamlink' floated into revision history. Now - i may be quite new here, but i would like to point out that the image gallery in question is a non-commercial one. I have no issues concerning getting in customers. It doesnt even feature any ad content. It's just a page about thungereggs and the ONLY reason i am here and putting this link on the wiki page is because i was trying to help and to liven up a VERY poor page. Providing links to relavent info does not sound like spam to me, and i hope not to people who actually want to find out a bit about thundereggs. Your other changes, i have no problem accepting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eibonvale (talk • contribs) 05:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Further discussion of WP:COI problems on user talk. Vsmith (talk) 05:34, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

He's continually doing the same thing to the Magnet Cove articles. They are stubs & I have been adding an external link to the articles, following the same format as "External Links" found on over 1/2 of other Wiki-pages. The link leads to a site with some verified history behind Magnet Cove, plus images of all known minerals found there. He's taken it upon himself to be the Wiki-Master of all geology content I suppose & simply deletes any other persons addition of content to the page.

He's done it to my edits multiple times, now to yours, & I've noticed several other instances that he has reverted geology related pages to "his" desire. Sad way to be a Wikipedian. This is one of the reasons why Wiki has a less than desirable reputation with many internet users. I initially thought about letting him play his game....but decided to try one last time, with predictable results.

So, anyone wanting info on Magnet Cove minerals...it's not on Wiki. Ask his guy, he knows everything about the place evidently. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.14.215.240 (talk) 12:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Patrick Muirhead
Change the details in the article about me again and I'll start changing the details on here about you. I'm FED UP with it. So be told. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickmuirhead (talk • contribs) 15:22, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Er... beg pardon. Seems I reverted the deletion of content to an article which appeared to be vandalism - and now you are threatening to vandalize my userpage or talk page. Take note, I take vandalism and threats quite seriously. Now, if you feel the article about you is inaccurate or simply non-notable, then the approach would be to politely request a review or article deletion. Vsmith (talk) 15:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Support for the Big Bang.
Hi, I just rephrased the support for the Big Bang that you took for criticism because of words like "the main objection" however it has been a past objection, of old physicists, who as Einstein and Feynman, believed in the principle of conservation of energy. The new physicists are already trained to ignore this principle as not having any valid application in cosmology. E.g. in my university all physicists are told that the Big Bang proves that the energy is not conserved. Jim (talk) 16:04, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Rawlins
Dennis Rawlins' autobiography is almost totally made of references to his own site, www.dioi.org It should be banned as a vanity page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.226.135 (talk) 13:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

User 92.11.226.135 is a sockpuppet. See suspected sockpuppet page for evidence. Please ignore his ranting. --Keithpickering (talk) 15:26, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Steggles
You deleted Steggles, which is the name of a major company in Australia, without a CSD justification or a link to an AfD. What was your justification for deletion? Thanks, Andjam (talk) 12:57, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That was back in the fall of 2005. It consisted of an image, a pronunciation, the following: it commonly refers to a surname, brand of frozen chicken sold in Australia, or a bright, young chap living in New York City. and a link to a personal wabsite (presumably of that bright young chap). It was speedy deleted as a pure vanity posting. Now, if you wish to write a useable article about this major Australian company -- be my guest. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 21:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Your spam deletions
Hi Vsmith, I rv'd a couple of your deletions. It seemed that you may have gotten a bit too enthusiastic in the worthy fight to limit spam. You've been deleting External links section links to relevant content. If you think that tertiary material such as the The Canadian Encyclopedia shouldn't be even in External links, please consider moving it to a Further reading section rather than deleting it. Thanks, LeadSongDog (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I have no objections to the link. The deletions were prompted because User:Wynford seems to have a single purpose - promoting the Canadian Encyclopedia, check said users contribs. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 13:37, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that the links should stay removed. As an encyclopedia, the source is a tertiary source and no better than Wikipedia; such links are recommended against. And the "contributor" has spammed those links to a remarkable number of articles. My own view is that they don't belong in "Further Reading," either. Cheers Geologyguy (talk) 14:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

User 81.100.86.7
Can you please block this user for sending a personal attack to my talk page. Here is the link to the attack.[] Footballfan190 (talk) 19:51, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching the vandalism by this user on my talk page! Darry2385 (talk) 20:07, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem. Vsmith (talk) 21:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

User 63.139.203.146
Can you also block this user. This user vandalized Robert Capa, even after a final warning. A user did send a message, but there was no blocking. Seriously, I think there needs to be a blocking in this case and not just a simple warning. Footballfan190 (talk) 20:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * 3 month schoolblock issued. The kids can have fun elsewhere for a while. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 21:12, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

User 202.93.165.130
This user needs a blocking. Had a final warning before vandalizing Proselytism. Footballfan190 (talk) 23:15, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * User:TigerShark done zapped him for a week. You might want to use the vandalism noticeboard (forgot the link for the moment) as I'm not available 24/7. Or is that board clogged and not functional? Haven't checked lately. Anyway, I'm happy to zap 'em when I can - heavy storms moving through here now and I may lose my satellite connection any time. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 23:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

User 81.99.151.57
This User did it again too. That user attacked talk pages, even after being warned. Please, block him. Here is the link.[] Footballfan190 (talk) 01:10, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Urantia
I'm the individual who turned on Mark McMenamin to The Urantia Book. Former Marine, beach landing in Chu Lai in JUN'66. Like you flew home in AUG'68. Radio Relay Opr from Chu Lai, Da Nang, Phu Bai, Dong Ha, Khe San and places inbetween. We appear to have much in common. I will happily enlighten you about The Urantia Book from my 3+ decades of study and experience.

Feel free to contact me at JJ_6062003@Yahoo.com

Best,

JJ —Preceding unsigned comment added by JJ606 (talk • contribs) 18:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi JJ - we may well have crossed paths back then as we tromped the same paddy dikes. Or may have met on the "air" during some long boring radio watches - eight hour shifts in the comm bunker fighting sleepiness - the pits... Never got to Khe San, but have a friend here who survived the siege. He's crazier than I am :-)
 * As for the "enlighten" bit - no thanks, I'm light enough already and not into such mythical stuff.
 * Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 14:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi JJ, good to see you back safely from Saudi Arabia. Nice find with Mcmenamin, now we also have Kary Mullis seeing the light. Don't worry about VSmith, probably shell-shocked,  he prefers reality.LOL  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Majeston (talk • contribs) 12:36, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

General thanks
For keeping the chemistry pages in good shape. We are busy choosing which version of which article goes on the Wikipedia for Schools DVD and are almost at the point of using a script saying "choose most recent version saved by Vsmith". --BozMo talk 14:23, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

corrosion & rust
i don't know who you are and what you know about corrosion & rust. i'm corrosion engineer i've added some text to corrosion & rust 'bcause they were not very clear & complete i've added also a link to asite that i consider very useful..why you don't remove all the links??????????? corrosion doctors????

but you think you know better than me what is important in this field.. ok.. continue in this way and give very incaccurate and stupi definition to the people.. if this is the spirit of wikipedia then.. i don't want to be a part of it.. thank.. you've lost an expert in this field..

regards

V. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vittorio6 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Please read WP:EL and WP:SPAM. I see little in the way of content addition and a lot of links to external sites. You are more than welcome to add verifiable content to the articles - however, please refrain from just adding external links. Thank you, Vsmith (talk) 22:18, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

.... ok.. you see little.. you're the expert...when i'll need and expert on corrosion i'll call you... bye bye..

V. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vittorio6 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Vsmisth

look at this..

from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/03/30/sv_101websites.xml&page=3 43 Wikipedia www.wikipedia.org

Controversial, democractic and sometimes error-strewn encyclopaedia that has brought Darwinism to the world of knowledge. Make it your first port of call for looking something up. Just be sure to check somewhere else that what you find makes sense.

best regards and find someone more expert than you...

regards

V. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.96.3.245 (talk) 07:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Raising Malawi
An article that you have been involved in editing, Raising Malawi, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Raising Malawi. Thank you. NewAtThis (talk) 23:28, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Lynn Margulis's dog
Oh, I'm sorry for editting her page then. Darn, I thought it was neat I met her, but I guess that's all it was. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MelissaReynolds (talk • contribs) 02:10, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

The Pentagon talk page
Please see the Pentagon talk page re. a recent revert you did I'd like to discuss further, if you have a minute. Thanks! — Wi ki sc ie nt  — 18:12, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Don't think the conspiracy theory folks need your advocacy - and reliable sources for them are rather scarce. Vsmith (talk) 18:38, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

9/11 conspiracy and NPOV
Hi, I was wondering about how you can possibly justify changing the edits about the 9/11 conspiracy so adamantly and yet it's so biased of you to do so. As mentioned in the wikipedia's NPOV policy, ALL entry's must be from an unbiased point of view and this entry about the pentagon (thanks to you) is very biased and unfair, the conspiracy's must be mentioned on this page - to say either side is correct is biased but that applies on both sides, not just on the theories which you don't agree with! And I will quote here: The policy requires that where multiple or conflicting perspectives exist within a topic each should be presented fairly. None of the views should be given undue weight or asserted as being judged as "the truth", in order that the various significant published viewpoints are made accessible to the reader, not just the most popular one. It should also not be asserted that the most popular view, or some sort of intermediate view among the different views, is the correct one to the extent that other views are mentioned only pejoratively. Readers should be allowed to form their own opinions. So please for the sake of freedom of speech, it applies to everyone, not just your own stubborn opinion.

Thanks. 81.100.86.7 (talk) 20:36, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

from Jaga
Sorry, I did not mean any harm to Wikipedia since my website is the extensive source of information about Poland. Moreover, I do not have any sponsor, I do not sell anything, I just do the website because I like it. My only (very meager) profit is from google ads. But I understand that adding just links may be considered inapropriate.

I have one comment. I added a short information about horseradish soup to horseradish article. I think my addition should be kept (it was deleted) since this soup is quite unique but it is related with Easter season in the region of Poland I come from. I wish I could update this article with my comment about the soup again. I hope you agree! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseradish#Culinary_uses

regards

Jagoda —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jagoda Klaehn (talk • contribs) 04:47, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

Marble
Yesterday, I changed around the way the different meanings of marble were for a very good reason. While trying to correctly link one form of the word in an article I have been writing, I had difficulty finding the way that page was titled.

Generally, Wikipedia standards are when a name is associated with just one topic that is well known to all of society, while the remainder of meanings of more obscure, entry of that title by itself goes straight to the most common meaning, while a disambiguation page is used for all others. An example is when there is one major city by a name, along with many other smaller cities or towns. Entering London goes to London, England, a famous city around the whole world, while all other places called London (such as London, Ontario) are found on the disambiguation page.

Meanwhile, if two or more articles of equal popularity share the same name, the proper way is to go straight to a disambiguation page. An example is Georgia, which is both a U.S. state and a country, besides all the other more obscure meanings.

I feel that marble is more like in the category of Georgia than London. Marble (toy) (which was called Marbles before I changed it to avoid confusion) is known to most children in developed countries around the world, who then grow up familiar with this term throughout their lives. Marble (rock) is something that adults generally know about (seeing Marble tiles a lot), but in fact, the toy is probably the more familiar meaning of the word, given that it comes earlier in life.

Given this, I believe entry of "marble" should go straight to a disambiguation.Sebwite (talk) 15:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Another measure to consider is the number of pages linking to Marble as the rock. By my rough count, I see more than 1200 pages linking (I stopped on the 12th 100 page batch). Whereas, marbles has fewer than fifty linking pages. Now, when you made the undiscussed page move, you left over 1200 pages linking directly to a disambig page and that is not the way we do things - it is incumbent on the mover to fix such poor linkages. I also see that you have made no effort to fix the links to marbles following your (again undiscussed) move of that page. If you feel strongly that your proposed changes are needed, then the proper route is to discuss on the relevant article talk pages -- and consider those 1200+ existing links to the current page. As for your arguement above, I'd say that ratio of >1200:50 seems to leave your "more familiar meaning" at odds with Wiki reality. Please don't make such ill-considered and undiscussed moves in the future. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 01:19, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

And so...
...we meet again. Thanx for your edits on the creep/deformation related stuff. So many articles on wikipedia, yet still so much that is not adequately covered. Work to do. Regards, Woodwalker (talk) 20:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Duluth Complex
This article has recently been expanded. Should you feel inclined to give it a critical eye, any suggestions would be appreciated. Kablammo (talk) 00:17, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been following your work on the article ... godd job! I started a bit on the associated ore deposites, but haven't done much - more later... Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 15:42, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the help. Someone thinks it is copied from elsewhere (as if it would take 80+ edits to make a copy).  Feel free to add more.  I'll try to add a little more on the volcanics but may have reached the limit of my sources on the Duluth Complex itself.  Kablammo (talk) 15:03, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

spam or whatever
Ok gandu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devrana (talk • contribs) 09:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Inner core
Please avoid removing alternative views without reading about them, or move them to a better place. As a teacher you should be aware of the consequences of indoctrination. —Preceding unsigned comment added by As110 (talk • contribs) 08:51, 21 April 2008


 * Please read WP:RS and WP:FRINGE - your added "theory" was from a 2001 webzine which solely promotes the nutjob ideas of one Tom Chalko. The link NASA news bit was totally irrelevant and seems to have been added simply to make the so-called "theory" appear to have support. Please don't add fringe nonsense to Wikipedia science articles. Rather do some internet searching to find if there is any peer-reviewed support for such a speculative piece prior to promoting it here. And please sign your talk page posts by placing four tildes ~ at the end. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 10:58, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I will follow the WP policies, but please stop calling things you don't know or don't understand junk and nonsense, and also refrain from calling people nutjobs. As an admin you should know better. Cheers back to you. As110 (talk) 12:18, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Brainstorming/ IDEA Cafe
How come you deleted my post to Brainstorming article? Seems to me people interested in Brainstorming would like to know about the IDEA Cafe. http://ideacafe.meetup.com/1

71.218.159.189 (talk) 15:05, 21 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm... as far as I can tell I've never edited that article especially around that time (Mar. 15) - nothing in the article history to show it. Vsmith (talk) 15:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Missed an RV ;)
Just wanted to give you a heads up that I just went ahead and reverted both Scibaby sock edits on Effects of GW (since it seems that you missed one). They are pesky. Jason Patton (talk) 01:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I noticed - seems he added the second as I was undoing the first... or something like that. Thanks, Vsmith (talk) 01:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

New Project
Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 18:41, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Most
Most of your work on the vanity page of Dennis Rawlins has been reversed. Note that Keithpickering is a sock-puppet of Dennis. The real Pickering is paid by Dennis. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.5.71 (talk) 12:09, 8 May 2008 (UTC) Rawlins has many numerical sock-puppets. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.5.71 (talk) 12:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

Chrysotile
I added some information on past uses of chrysotile asbestos and its optical properties using polarized light microscopy. I also added a number of references and some external links. All of the information was removed but the references and links were retained. As a novice at this I am confused. Thanks, IEQParticles (talk) 20:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Seems most of what you added is still there. I removed the gallery with two example images and someone else the "A good reference for the health effects of exposure to Chrysotile asbestos is the book by Nolan et al." The content on optical properties and the added refs are still there. Check the history - and follow the changes from your edit on Mar. 28 to the present to see all the changes. Vsmith (talk) 02:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

Thank you for your welcome. I am associated with www.microlabgallery. My business website is microlabnw.com and I started posting photographs on that site. What I am trying to do is make this resource available to people who are interested in learning how to identify and understand the significance of particles in the environment. I have been in this business for over 40 years and wanted to share the knowledge. Some of the information is not anywhere else because it is based on my research while I was doing work for various government agencies and companies that were interested in the outcome only and not in how I got there. I understand if it is inappropriate to reference microlabgallery and have no problem with its removal and will not reference it or my business site in the future. I understand how important it is to be rigorous in applying the rules, even at the expense of what may be useful information. Thanks again, IEQParticles (talk) 14:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

fast facts
They are for people whodont have time to read the article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.105.160 (talk) 04:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

External link list of beaches
Although Onbeach.com is a commercial website, it also offers complete information of all the beaches in the Caribbean, France, Italy, the Netherlands, Portugal and Spain. This site offers information on the stucture of the sand, how clean the beaches are, what the facilities on and around the beaches are and whether or not the water is clear. The list of beaches on wikipedia is incomplete and doesn't offer as much information, or pictures for that matter, as onbeach.com does. Suus1982 (talk) 08:46, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
 * If you find a Wikipedia article to be incomplete or lacking, the proper course of action is to improve the article by adding appropriate content. So work to improve rather than by spamming with commercial external links, especially if you are associated with those sites. Thank you, Vsmith (talk) 10:43, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Iguazu Falls external link
I've been despamming Iguazu Falls for some months now and have little tolerance for b.s. links, but I'm inclined to think the one you reverted today — — doesn't qualify as spam. I'm not suggesting it be added again (it's not very well-written and provides no significant new information) but it has no advertising and is certainly legitimately on-topic. The ip of whoever added it has a bad history, but it looks like this edit was well-intentioned. Please forgive me if this seems like nitpicking; I just hate to see the term "spam" applied with too broad a brush. Rivertorch (talk) 21:37, 22 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Spam includes added ext. links with little additional info or relevance - usually added by anon in an attempt to increase their fav site's hit count or just pushing their site or their fav sites. Whether we call it spam or not, there was no reason to keep it per WP:EL. Broad-brushing away :-) Cheers. Vsmith (talk) 01:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

As I said, I don't disagree with your removal of the link. Maybe I'm overcautious in my use of the word, but apparently I am not alone: WP:Spam, for instance, doesn't apply in this case. (As you noted, WP:EL does.) Anyway, it just seemed a tiny bit like crying wolf or something. Thanks for your good work here. Rivertorch (talk) 03:49, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

generating content box
Hi I could not figure out how to generate content box at the top which most wiki sites seems to have like the one you have at the top in this page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rabs003 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 23 May 2008


 * A table of contents is automatically generated by Wikipedia when more than three section headers are present - see WP:TOC.
 * Vsmith (talk) 10:36, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the editing and also the links Rabin (talk) 02:08, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Galápagos Islands task force
Hi Vsmith. In view of your significant contributions to the article Galápagos Islands, I thought that you might be interested in visiting the new task force, Galápagos Islands task force. Thanks. GregManninLB (talk) 21:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Busy
Currently busy w/ tornado damage recovery - back to it later. Vsmith (talk) 19:24, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

OK - not so busy now. Vsmith (talk) 22:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for the help. How long have you been on here? Also, does it matter if I'm young? ~Becca -aka Nerdy and proud- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nerdy and proud (talk • contribs) 22:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Been playing here since July '04. Age doesn't matter - just be sure to add verifiable content and cite your sources. Cheers - Vsmith (talk) 22:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for tackling GET
Thanks for your continuing work on the Expanding/Growing Earth pages. I knew that there were serious POV issues that really needed to be handled there, but it wasn't my area of expertise. The only thing I know about it is that the question of where the new matter comes from has not been satisfactorily answered IMHO and I've seen more than a few geologists' opinions on the issue in different fora on the 'net. I feel much better knowing an expert of geology and wiki is keeping an eye on things.

Thanks again :) Aunt Entropy (talk) 23:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Are we havin' fun yet? Hey, easy on that expert stuff - might go to my head :-) Keep watching, I expect howls of objection soon. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 23:39, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Whole-Earth decompression dynamics
Kindly describe your basis for nominating "Whole-Earth decompression dynamics" for deletion.Marvin Herndon (talk) 17:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marvin Herndon (talk • contribs) 17:26, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see the afd page. Vsmith (talk) 03:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

This may be redundant as I added this to your talk page
Re Dynamo theory You have stated "you appear to be adding and promoting your own ideas/research on dynamo theory and other articles". I think there is some misunderstanding. I edited "Dynamo theory" and improved the scientific descriptions, including adding factual discussions with references to new, recently published fundamental concepts in peer-reviewed, world-class scientific journals. There is a big difference between self-promotional and factual representations. Please tell me which of my own words, are not factual. I describe both older ideas and newer and the basis for the newer ideas. Suppose this were 1905, would you object to Einstein citing his own publications on brownian motion, special relativity, or the photo-electric effect? You might, if he said, "Look at how great I am". But as a good scientist, he would, I am confident, describe his published work in a factual manner, just as I have done. As a self-professed "dabbler in almost anything scientific", I would like to extend to you an invitation to "dabble" at the forefront of science, and in doing so to understand where I'm comming from and what science is all about. I have put a lifetime of work into one, recently published, east-to-read book, entitled "Maverick's Earth and Universe" which, among other things presents a more fundamental approach than the so-called scientific method, and provides information intended to help people make discoveries plus a whole lot more. The book is available from amazon.com.

Rather than escalating this whole issue, I would like for you to understand and then, having done that, to help rather than to oppose me.Marvin Herndon (talk) 20:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Better, if you send by email your mailing address, I'll arrange for you to receive a copy of the book. I have an email link at http://NuclearPlanet.com Marvin Herndon (talk) 20:48, 6 June 2008 (UTC)Marvin Herndon (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm... and you want to send me a copy of your book... so I can see the truth no doubt - no thanks, I'll remain in the dark :-)
 * ...presents a more fundamental approach than the so-called scientific method... Wow!!
 * Vsmith (talk) 03:54, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

"There are none so blind as those will not see." My book is written so that the reader does not have to believe, but rather, can understand the logical progressing of discoveries. I have tried to write it so that a bright middle-school student can understand. And, yes it does in fact present a more fundamental approach than the so-called scientific method. You are a teacher, so you must be familiar with that method, which usually begins with something like 'pose a question' but how does one do that? Do you teach your students to "remain in the dark"? What's wrong with this picture?Marvin Herndon (talk) 18:07, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Gee - everyone wants to promote their fringe and wacko bullcrap on Wikipedia. That's rather to be expected - gain exposure, make mo' $$$ - aw well. But they also seem to expect me to promote their speculations with my students - NO! I won't promote nonsense junk that has been long ignored by "mainstream science". So yes, I do see what is wrong with this picture, good-day, Vsmith (talk) 16:24, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Be precise here. Are you stating that the published work of J. Marvin Herndon is "fringe and wacko bullcrap"?Marvin Herndon (talk) 06:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Note - there was no indentation of my comment above as is normal for a reply on talk pages. Therefore Mr Herndon may assume that my comments above were in general as a result of disgust with numerous promotion efforts over the past four years here. But to anyone interested, if the shoe fits, wear it. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 06:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

WFM
PS If you're teaching high school Science, How about promoting the Janet Periodic Table to your students as is on the WWW. It gets away from the vagaries of the Sergeant Welch table and is probably one of the reasons our students are falling behind in science.WFPMWFPM (talk) 05:28, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Why should I promote anything, not in my job description. The Janet arrangement is an interesting alternative, but I doubt its use would do much to solve our education problems - that's quite a naive assumption. Vsmith (talk) 13:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Re Your editing of my adding Talk:Nuclear model to the Atom's reference list, that was because I couldn't get a reference my models in the Nuclear model section and they certainly are nuclear models. So why couldn't you spruce up my edit and leave the reference in please. WFPMWFPM (talk) 04:46, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I removed an improperly added bit promoting your own original research (at least so it appeared to me). Your edit had messed up the format of the section and we don't add links to talk page comments within article pages. Please read the how to pages in the welcome message Wwheaton added to your talk page and learn the way we do things. Can't learn no younger... Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 13:26, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I thought education was about learning about facts and/or opinions and about conceptualization. And I found it hard it hard to get a concept of the Atom from the Mendeleev periodic table which is essentially a big data base and I had to build the models to understand the difference between it and the Janet Table. And now, as they say in Fox news, I am reporting and you decide. I would hope that you would do the Neodymium magnet test and tell me what you think about the model of 4Be9.WFPMWFPM (talk) 20:58, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Is there any particular reason why you removed the appearance of my model picture from under the descriptive narative? I thought it helped a lot in understanding the model concept, and some readers particularly young readers will be attracted to the narative by the picture. WFPMWFPM (talk) 21:54, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Simply didn't see the need for a large image there - so I linked to the image so anyone interested can go to the image page. Vsmith (talk) 22:15, 12 June 2008 (UTC)Thank you WFPMWFPM (talk) 16:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to reformat my talk to get it alongside my image in the image page? WFPMWFPM (talk) 23:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I suppose you could add the discussion on the talk page for the image, but wouldn't get much attention there. Or you could place the image on your user page along with the description/discussion. Vsmith (talk) 23:42, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I dont want to foul it up by trying anything, but it seems to me that the talk nuclear model page could have my image on the left side as it is on the image page and then have the discussion on the right side of the image. WFPMWFPM (talk) 00:28, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * OK, try this: [[Image:Models1.jpg|thumb|left|350px|Your annotation here]] - just copy that and paste into Talk:Nuclear model at the very start of your comment there. Of course add your annotation and fiddle with the 350px bit to get the size you want. If you mass up, no problem just undo and retry. Note on the above I've placed  tags so the code shows. And if you get it to work to your satisfaction then remove the image link from the end of your discussion. Vsmith (talk) 00:45, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Okay I think I did what you told me and now the page wont call up an image?WFPMWFPM (talk) 03:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

curiosity
V, what brought on the page protection at remote viewing? not a problem, it just surprised me a little. -- Ludwigs 2 04:39, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * The page is on my watchlist and the recent flurry of activity got my attention. A dozen reverts involving five users in about 24 hours which followed and extended an anons edit warring. All involved need to back away from the revert button and discuss. Vsmith (talk) 04:54, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * gotcha. if you would, please, put Alternative medicine on your watchlist as well. I've been making some major changes trying to bring it back to NPOV, and I am getting a lot of resistance from the same players.  I don't want that page to fly off the handle either.  -- Ludwigs 2  04:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I need another page... gonna be 8000 on that list soon. But not tonight, it's past my bedtime already. Vsmith (talk) 05:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * lol - sorry, no stress. the problem will resolve itself in time.  :-)-- Ludwigs 2  20:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

This is not spam. Please check before leaving such an opinion. I believe this is a relevant external link that provides useful information to wikipedia users. Thanks anyway for your note. Marsal G.Durall —Preceding unsigned comment added by Economyweb (talk • contribs) 16:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Why do you think this link (as an external reference) does not apply? Thank you. Marsal G.Durall marsal@economyweb.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by Economyweb (talk • contribs) 17:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * economyweb.com role account blocked, FYI--Hu12 (talk) 17:22, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

?
are you satisfied with this result? -- Ludwigs 2 02:46, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmm... - bit cryptic there. If you are referring to the resumption of edit warring on Remote viewing - no. But, on that note, please remember that it takes two to tango. Now, if you are referring to the edit warring on the talk page there and your personal attacks there and the removal of that section - well, I'm satisfied that it has been resolved. Whenever editors clash as you and SA have, it is never satisfying. I have long respected SA as a valuable and experienced editor (which doesn't mean I always agree with him) and am well aware of his clashes with various editors. I see you as a relatively new editor who has considerable potential for improving Wikipedia - and one who has become frustrated with the system. Back when I was a newbie, I had some stressful clashes with an experienced user - I backed off the immediate disputed topic and moved elsewhere. Later I joined with that experienced user and supported him in a serious clash which went through arbitration. Sometimes it's best to shift gears and simply avoid a conflict - much less stressful and there are lots of articles needing improvement. Cheers, Vsmith (talk) 03:24, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * well, ok. didn't mean to be cryptic, I'm just a bit at sea.  the rules of communication I generally live by don't seem to apply here, and it is truly giving me headaches.


 * I don't mean to involve you in my problems, sorry. I suppose I should just go grab the bull by the horns.  -- Ludwigs 2  03:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Oil shale geology
Hi, Vsmith. I am going to nominate the Oil shale geology article for the GAN. However, I think this article probably needs some more editing and improvement before the nomination. Maybe you are interested to take a look on this article? Thank you in advance. Beagel (talk) 09:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. I nominated the Oil shale geology article for the GAN. You are welcome to comment and improve this article. Thank you. Beagel (talk) 17:29, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Mammoth Cave National Park/1
As one of the people who has over 10 edits at Mammoth Cave National Park and has edited it this year, your attention is needed at Good article reassessment/Mammoth Cave National Park/1.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me?
I'm not sure what is going on here. I am at work, in a call center with 300+ employees. I have never visited any "alcohol prohibition page" and really DO NOT appreciate the rude message! perhaps you should locate who ACTUALLY did this before risking offending new users like me! I really don't understand. what this is all about?..... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.198.207.11 (talk) 02:16, 24 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Please look at the date/time stamps on your talk page. My comment/warning was posted in Nov 2007 in regards to a vandalism edit on Aquamarine. The most recent warning was by another editor in regards to a questionable edit on Opal. If you want to avoid such anon. warnings then simply sign up for a user account and use it rather than ever changing ip addresses. Vsmith (talk) 02:44, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

for the second time my NPOV discussion entries for 'pearl' and 'freshwater pearl' were removed
I did an undo on both so they are restored, but wonder if there isn't someway to prevent this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pearlexpert (talk • contribs) 04:00, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Beryllium
please look now at the article. It looks bad. Please move the photo return ! :-( --Alchemist-hp (talk) 13:11, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Uluru
Regarding the article talk material, I'll take your word for it. I'm disappointed that sources which address the issues raised have not been added to the article as was originally planned. Interesting though that he was blocked as a sock, I hadn't been aware of that. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 18:04, 28 June 2008 (UTC)