User talk:WhaleyTim

Giulio Ceretti
thank you for help. Is it ok now the copyedit? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed.ceretti (talk • contribs) 11:58, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Titanic Material added to article
The content of your sandbox page outlining additional factors involved in the sinking of RMS Titanic was well written, and outshone much of the material on Wikipedia's main article. I intend to do some work on the page in the near future (I added something about the sea trials), but in the mean time have transferred some of the material from the sandbox page into the main article, in the hope that there it will receive more frequent amendation. Since the sandbox appears to have been unmodified since 2007, I thought this a sensible thing to do.

Parts were removed or rewritten, notably the section on 'ice blink', which seemed to misconstrue the phenomenon slightly.

CharlieRCD (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Whaley Bridge
Where in Whaley are you from Whaley Tim?

Approximately half way between the Shepherd's and the Board (that's all I would like to say in a public page) WhaleyTim 12:31, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

A Request
Please do not delete the article Nitish Srivastava. In a short time, I promise to improve the article to wikipedia`s required standards.

Whaley Bridge
You obviously live in Whaley Bridge, I live in Kett. How long have you been living there for? JFBurton 12:35, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Titanic note
Good idea on expanding the intro note in Titanic. Hopefully people will read it! Akradecki 14:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

R.M.S. Titanic
Hi Tim,

I see that you are editting the article on the Titanic in your sandbox. No problem with that as far as I'm concerned, however, I would like to advise you of the fact that the article points to the Lloyd's disambiguation page by use of the link Lloyd's. I would like to ask you if you could have it point to the Lloyd's of London page instead. I'm trying to clean up unwanted links to the disambiguation page, but since this is on your private space, I thought I'd ask you to do it yourself, rather, than me intruding. Mausy5043 19:17, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Italian films
Hi. I guess you have seen I had to split the list as it was fast approaching 100 kb and even my broadband hi-tech computer was slowing!! Italy has a huge industry but the lists are developing nicely -I guess you saw all the -26,000 bytes etc deep red links on the changes page which is bound to send alarm bells running -its good that you on the alert anyway -keep up the good wiki-guarding!!! Saludos ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you"    Contribs 16:19, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

This is alos a coincidence as I edited the Titanic article earlier!!! ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you"    Contribs 16:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Hetag's Grove
Hi, thanks a lot for tagging this article as a copyvio. Just for future reference, blatant copy pastes from external websites may be tagged db-copyvio for speedy deletion if there is no claim that the editor has the authorization to import the text here. Thanks again! -- lucasbfr talk 14:42, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Derbyshire October Newsletter
Hi WhaleyTim! Here is this month's newsletter! To continue recieveing it, follow the link within and add your name!  Bluegoblin  7   19:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

organicgirl
I am rather new to the editing process. Per your request I have made comments on the discussion page of organicgirl

I have read the SPAM information and Guideline # 11 -- I am asking for feedback on what needs to change to make this page encyclopedic. Or, are you saying, it doesn't have merit to be a page?

Please advise.

monte

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MonteShaffer 17:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I am still at a loss on how to proceed. I am not fully understanding the process of editorial decisions at Wikipedia, and am aware that you are very experienced. So, is the company information valid if I provide a newspaper article. I don't understand fully the logic of allowing some companies and products and not others. I guess I haven't been fully baptized into the Wiki Community of Practice.

monte

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MonteShaffer 19:59, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

WhaleyTim,

Thanks for taking the time to mentor me. I believe in the goals of Wikipedia, and do understand the implications associated with determining notability, references, etc. I also understand the implications to prevent spam at Wikipedia, which makes your job as an editor even more difficult. This discussion has opened my eyes to a lot of issues you deal with on a daily basis. Like mentioned, the Whole Foods article is generally edited and maintained by someone at their company - in the print world, this would be no different than someone at Whole Foods calling up EB and asking how the article is going to be worded etc.

Based on your feedback, and Pigman's I am going to rework the article. It still may not be considered notable at this time (or ever), which is your discretion (and can be respected); I actually was teaching an Internet Marketing class today where we discussed this issue in detail. So there is a lot of learning going on by me personally and by those I influence. In this Internet course, I am considering requiring the students to write an article about a business and try and get it approved through Wikipedia. The awareness issue is both good and bad. This would requiring them contact a company get key information, and write an article that fits the guidelines. I am attempting to model such behavior with organicgirl.

I do realize the dilemna that may be created for you [Great, this guy is training students to exploit Wikipedia]. By no means is that my intention. It is clear that Wikipedia is effects awareness. Managing a company's identity is important, that is why someone at Whole Foods monitors the page. I can hope you recognize that my goal is to learn from this activity and encourage my students to learn. All of my contributions I have made have been intended to contribute. I have strong "open source beliefs."

For example, I am a great grandson of Alexander Ruthven, who was killed on 5 Aug 1600 by King James of England, in the Gowrie house conspiracy. I also created a Web color tool with categorical colors mentioned specifically in the Web colors Wiki page. I have one footnote in the article which links to the tool. As a future marketing professor, I am using that information almost as a metric on Information Diffusion.

There may be a fine line between tricking or gaming the system and using white magic within the system. My intentions are to teach techniques that fit under the latter, so I do appreciate the time you have devoted to increasing my awareness. If there was a central message you would want me to share with those I teach and influence, what would it be? Don't even try to create business articles? Or, if you try, please follow the following guidelines?

In terms of copy strategy, please realize that I am trying to follow the rules. I have created two pages in the past, and was attempting to model organicgirl based on different specific pages (which I earlier mentioned). By no means am I trying to justify myself. As editors, you are deeply involved in many activities, so the copy strategy you use (e.g., encyclopedic writing) has become tacitly engrained in your way of thinking. Most learners learn informally, by copying good examples. I have read all of the suggested materials, and will continue to read, but we do learn best by doing. I am trying to understand and become a legitimate participant in your Community of Practice. A model example of good "encyclopedic copy" would be very helpful, especially in the context I am currently working on.

So I will work on a new version, and give it back to you [post it as my user page].

Thanks again for being so responsive, and helping me to understand. Editors have a challenging job, and the dilemma of providing appropriate content without allowing the promotional is a difficult balance indeed.

monte

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Sage Hospitality Resources
...is back, and still looks spammy to me; but as I see you've been trying to educate them, perhaps you should look at it. JohnCD (talk) 20:28, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

About Marvin Whitehurst
why would you want to delete marvin whitehurst from wikipedia. He has done more for humanity than you and your wikipedia deletions. do you even know who he is. I wrote some crap up there right now but i am going to actually put up stuff. (don't answer if you know who he is or not because if you don't, i don't want to know. I would probably die laughing at you.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scottyg17 (talk • contribs) 17:30, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Louvre Hotels
I agree with your comments and I'm currently looking into the history of the company etc however there isn't a lot out there. I'll update as soon as I find something

Townender —Preceding unsigned comment added by Townender07 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Sibi Blazic
Thank you very much for getting her name out of a redirect. Now it's up to us editors to find out whether she meets notability criteria, etc. Thinking wishfully, it's very likely that she will, even of it's over the years, and her article will grow accordingly. --AVM (talk) 02:59, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, just seen your note on the Christian Bale page regarding the above user's request to have an article for Sibi Blazic. I have just made a comment on that talk page and would like your opinion. My comment copied from talk page;
 *  'As far as I know, she's not actually an actress. She was Winona Ryder's assistant and that is the information that is on IMDB, she is on the crew list as an assistant on various films. This isn't a 'degrading, "macho" attitude', it's just that she has not done that much work in the public sphere. What other star's PAs have their own Wikipedia article? The reason she does not have an entry is because she is merely not notable enough for an encyclopedia, there's no judgement on her or her work, she is just not known for her work by the general public. I understand that she is now a freelance producer and if she becomes successful in that field then it might be time to consider making an article for her but at the moment she is only widely known for being Christian Bale's spouse.' 
 * Do you think she is notable enough for her own article? I find it a bit disconcerting to have an article on someone in the hope that she will become notable 'over the years' and considering that both her and Mr. Bale want to keep their personal life private. In my opinion if she is not notable now, then we should not have an article on her at all. On top of this, she doesn't even appear to be actively seeking fame or public recognition of any sort so it seems a bit intrusive to have an entire article on her. Your thoughts? She&#39;sGotSpies (talk) 16:56, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Bryce Rawlings
Well spotted for a hoax. I think it's blatant enough that it shouldn't be allowed to linger on - I have tagged it which covers "blatant and obvious misinformation". Something has gone wrong with your AfD listing, I'm not sure what, so that it doesn't actually appear in the day's list. If it doesn't get speedied, I'll try and sort the AfD out, but I expect it will. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 19:57, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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Re:RMS Titanic
I enjoyed your comment on the revert for the RMS Titanic article. :) Since your interests include Titanic, how does the article changes made so far look? Shinerunner (talk) 12:20, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Whaley, I don't think I removed any content you posted on the RMS Titanic Talk page. If you really think I did please substantiate it. But, yes I'll post new entries at the bottom of talk pages. I don't know if you were just tick off by me wanting to add some much needed suspicious material about the deliberate sinking of the Olympic. WillardWorsley (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 20:25, 26 February 2012 (UTC).

Oh, yes that I thought was benign given it was part of the post of mine based on a typo. So I deleted it and naturally other post were deleted with it, is that a problem? WillardWorsley (talk) 03:17, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

March 2009
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your message to iFaqeer
I took the liberty of moving your comment to iFaqeer from his user page to his talk page. Guettarda (talk) 18:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Oops - Bit of a slip-up there. Thanks WhaleyTim (talk) 09:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion declined: Roberto Barilli
Hello WhaleyTim, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Roberto Barilli - a page you tagged - because: it makes claims as to notability. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 13:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

hi wt
If you put wolves and wormhill into ggogle then you will find alot about the hall and a claim to fame for halloween! Victuallers (talk) 09:23, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

CSD tag
Hi WhaleyTim, thanks for tagging Jaguares FC (Fake) for deletion. I've just deleted it but as db-author instead of db-blank, as it was the sole author of the article who had blanked it, and we encourage newbies to do this when they want their own work deleted.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  17:50, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Stormy weather.
All I have is this piece, http://www.stevelewis.me.uk/page28.php which contains a press clipping- and I have fixed the reference --ClemRutter (talk) 17:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Moshe Tavor
I'm rewriting it us we speak... Just needed some base text  (CONFIQ (talk) 01:30, 11 December 2009 (UTC))

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Buxton
Thanks for adding the new information and great references. Please be aware of our guideline on WP:PEACOCK words. The encyclopedia should be neutral in tone and not promotional, like an advertisement. The opera house's or festival's official website, for instance, should be taken with a grain of salt. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:09, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm - Ok, so maybe acclaim was a bit strong, but how do we say that the operas used to suck but are now pretty good? Critical reaction has become considerably and consistently more positive over the last few years - and I was using reviews by recognised opera critics in major national newpaper as a source, not the festival or opera house websites.WhaleyTim (talk) 21:47, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Thanks for the message. I think the first draft considerably overstated what the news sources said. They said that the quality of the festival was quite bad (really a scathing account of how bad the festival used to be, by journalistic standards), but that in the last decade it is much improved. The news sources are not wildly effusive about the quality of the shows even now. So, I'm just saying that we need to be careful about overstating what the references say. Also, the references don't say that the festival is "improving" - they just say that it has improved from its dismal situation many years ago, and that it has grown larger in recent years, but I don't think they say that "2010 was better than 2009, which was better than 2008", etc. So, I think the jury is still out on whether it is "improving". Also, I would note that the festival has its own article, so we don't need to go into too much detail in the Buxton article, since people can click on the blue link for more information. Nevertheless, as I said before, I thought you did a good job in adding information about the cultural events and institutions in Buxton, and so thanks. Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:30, 20 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It doesn't matter how their publicity describes it. They could call it their "most fabulous" auditorium.  The word "main" doesn't add any information we didn't already know, since we are very clear that the other space is smaller.  Our job is to edit out irrelevant details like this and convert the marketing talk into encyclopedic description.  Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 03:09, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Derbyshire Bus Route The Se7ens
Thank you for checking and editing Derbyshire Bus Route The Se7ens, WhaleyTim. I would not have noticed it if it wasn't for you. RCSprinter123 (talk) 18:11, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you. WhaleyTim (talk) 19:30, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Invite
Hi again Tim - do you know about this. Last chance for some time to record the history in the silk mill and the 95,000 items they don't show? Victuallers (talk) 00:08, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Titanic Captain

 * Thanks RJCan, and thanks for the link WhaleyTim (talk) 19:59, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Amble
Remove peacockery??? What on earth do you mean?

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 * 1) AmazingAmble is simply a descriptor/tagline for a website - why didn't you also remove the descriptors for the other external source websites?

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