User talk:Zigzig20s/Archive 3

Oregon locations
Hi, for Oregon you can actually combine the reqphoto with project template.

See Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Oregon if it's not too late. Thanks, Katr67 (talk) 03:15, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Small towns
No, sorry. Gas is cheap now, so I don't have that excuse. The real reason is I don't have a digital camera, and my mom's digital camera doesn't work for what ever reason. I tried to take pics with it for clothes to sell on ebay with no luck. I plan on getting one, hopefully soon, then I'll take some pics for ya! I'll watch page you, so I remember who the pics are for! :)  C T J F 8 3 Talk 08:39, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Great news! I got a digital camera, so I should have some pics of nearby town with in a week to 10 days!  C T J F 8 3 Talk 06:59, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

re:Ripley Hitchcock
Wikipedia prefers the double quotation marks over the singular for titles and quotes; singular quotes are used for quotations within a quotation; see WP:PUNC and WP:MOSTITLE for more. As for my removal of the duplicated citations, this is standard practice. It's generally believed that the one ref (Wertheim) covers the entirety of the information that is sandwiched between the two inline cites. If this is not the case, separate refs should be included to indicate that it is not covered by Wertheim. There is no reason to cite every separate sentence to the exact same inline citation. BTW, I'm not really interested in the topic; I only have an interest in Crane. ;) María ( habla con migo ) 18:53, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


 * But you didn't make these claims up, correct? You attribute a majority of that paragraph to Wertheim, which is shown with the two inline citations currently used.  WP:CITE does not state that every sentence must include a source, and this information is far from contested. María ( habla  con migo ) 19:04, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't, but now that you're removed the references nothing proves that I didn't make them up. Nothing against you. When I read articles and an assertion is not referenced, I have no idea whether it is creditable or not.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Translations
Perhaps there aren't any references in the French, but I've always understood that barring references, a translation is the next best thing to look for. And all of those articles could be expanded, even a little, with something from the French. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:25, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree, it's not perfect. But it's the only good way I know of to identify content from other Wikipedias that needs expanding. --User:AlbertHerring Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla! 20:54, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

Please see my comments on Albert's page. Its not intended in the way you think it is  The Bald One       White cat 21:16, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association
Please revisit your latest edits. At least one of the references is in entirely the wrong place (and emphasizes the insignificance of the NLGJA rather than the other way around). Rklawton (talk) 01:51, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

re: Equality Utah
You're very welcome. Thanks for the help with the article, and adding WikiProject Utah! -Joe Decker (talk) 18:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

reqphoto of people
Hi, just a friendly tip: with people you can add needs-photo = yes to. Traveler100 (talk) 16:20, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

My Mortal Enemy by Willa Cather
Hi - I see you reverted all edits made to the article since your edit of last February, including my disambiguation of "Pittsburg". While I don't really care whether the work is considered a novel or novella, I'm curious as to whether "Pittsburg" is, in fact, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, or is it some other, possibly fictional place? --Ken Gallager (talk) 03:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Mark R. Dybul
Please don't revert edits as "vandalism" as you did here:. A contributor spent a great deal of time trying to improve an article, and while her edits might have seemed biased or lengthy, it was a first time contributor. Help them do it right, please don't label something vandalism that is an contribution in good faith. Thanks. Bastique demandez 02:48, 31 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Sorry, it looks as if you were reverting something else and that an anon actually did the mass revert. I don't think it was vandalism though. Bastique demandez 02:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Translation request: Moira Orfei
Hello. Could someone who speaks Italian please translate this page into English? I am reading Wayne Koestenbaum's novel Moira Orfei in Aigues-Morte, hence my sudden interest.Zigzig20s (talk) 15:29, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The first paragraph of the article in english is "Moira Orfei, (aka Miranda Orfei), (Born:21 December 1931 Codroipo,Udine, Friuli Venezia Giulia,Italy) a popular television personality and Italian actress. Miranda is considered the queen of the Italian circus." See the new page here Moira OrfeiLooks to be an interesting book []gioto (talk) 04:19, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, but is work in progress. gioto (talk) 08:06, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok done as much as I can. Please read over and correct any grammar issues. Thank you gioto (talk) 12:34, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the corrections. Yes she is married with two children. The Italian article is short on references, most seem to be in print eg: off the web.. gioto (talk) 00:29, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The Trouble With Normal (book)
Hi Zigzig20s - cheers for adding the project banners to this article. Any thoughts on improving the article otherwise? It's one of my first non-stubby creations. Gonzonoir (talk) 22:31, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, gotcher. Well, I'd be interested to hear what you think of it. I've been studiously avoiding having an opinion, for the purposes of starting an NPOV article :) Gonzonoir (talk) 08:44, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009
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GLQ: A Journal of Lesbian and Gay Studies
I share your concerns, despite being the perp. But surely it does fall within the definition "study of sexual interests, behavior, and function"? --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:47, 8 April 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI I asked someone who looks as if he might be familiar with the journal (something I am not); the Q&A is here. Conclusion appears to be to leave it so categorised. --Tagishsimon (talk) 13:22, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Eve Kosofsky Sedgwick
Hey Zigs - did she die yesterday? Two different IPs have said she has. --David Shankbone  15:57, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I called the Graduate Center at CUNY - it is true. Sedgwick passed away either yesterday or this morning of cancer.  --David Shankbone  16:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)


 * FYI: I mentioned you on this blog post about her death. --David Shankbone  18:04, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Paul A. Russo
His place of birth is not readily evident, but he attended OSU and therefore spent some time in Columbus. Feel free to add his birthplace if you know it!! We are trying to discourage the "Category: People from Ohio" and diffuse it to subcategories. regards!!! 8th Ohio Volunteer Infantry (talk) 21:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Just found it! Born in Cleveland. Added reference. Thanks! 8th Ohio Volunteer Infantry (talk) 22:05, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Theodore Dreiser
No problem. :) --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 04:10, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

A Push and a Shove: A Novel
I've started a draft at User:Zigzig20s/A Push and a Shove: A Novel. You can create userpages for all sorts of things just by replacing this books title with whatever you need. Some users find it helpful to keep a list somewhere so they delete unneeded items and know where to find others. -- Banj e b oi   21:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * OK, Per this let's write it up to a DYK level (1,500 characters of prose, etc) and launch it. I think we should have a section just on the author which will be his article for now and can expand into a BLP later. -- Banj e  b oi   15:31, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

At DYK
Template talk:Did you know - I've nommed A Push and a Shove: A Novel for DYK, hope the hook works but suggest an alt if you wish. -- Banj e b oi   14:03, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject LGBT studies Newsletter (June 2009)

 * Newsletter delivery by xenobot  17:50, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

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Stonewall Nation
I see you added reqphoto to this article. What sort of photo are you looking for here? --Stepheng3 (talk) 23:48, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Photo for George Gollin
You added a request for photo to the George Gollin talk page. George sent me an email saying that we could use http://www.hep.uiuc.edu/home/g-gollin/images/gollin.jpg. I've never uploaded a picture and really don't know what is involved. I tried to research it but became overwhelmed and decided to just ask for help. TallMagic (talk) 00:59, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

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LGBT Businesses
Hey Zig-

I was out to lunch in April when you were doing work on LGBT businesses, but I'm back from lunch and got interested in developing a good category structure for LGBT economic related questions. Can you check out what I've assembled at User:Scarykitty/LGBT Business Categories and give some feedback? I'm trying to include all the articles you flagged in my "taxonomy." Scarykitty (talk) 00:07, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Autoreviewer
Hi, after seeing one of your articles at newpage patrol, I was surprised to see that an editor who has contributed quite so many articles as you over such a long period hadn't already been approved as an wp:Autoreviewer. So I've taken the liberty of rectifying that.  Ϣere Spiel  Chequers  10:11, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Hm?
? Holomorph (talk) 17:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
 * ! Holomorph (talk) 11:09, 20 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.205.233.136 (talk)

Barry Winchell
Please do not re-add the Vanderbilt University category to Barry Winchell. I know that he died at Vanderbilt Hospital, but that is not a reason to be included in that category. That's reserved for articles that have very strong ties to the university, such as alumni, facilities, events, etc. Think of it this way...the hospital he died at has virtually no bearing on him as a person. It's just tangential...likely he was simply transported to Vanderbilt because of their LifeFlight helicopter service. — Huntster (t @ c) 04:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

picture of Dold
I submitted a request for an open source image to his campaign web site but haven't heard back. For some reason, these queries are always met with suspicion, particularly by conservatives. I wish WP didn't have such a left-leaning rep. I happened to meet Dold on the street outside my office last week by chance. I was kicking myself just after he left for not whipping out my iPhone and asking him for a quick shot. Ronnotel (talk) 14:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

New WikiProject Novels initiative
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Request photo template
Hello! In going through the backlog of Category:Articles which may no longer need images, I've found several of your Missouri towns with image requests getting tagged by the bot as not needing images because of the map image. I'm assuming you want actual photographs, so I've been clarifying the image requests by adding |of=Horton, Missouri (or whatever) to the reqphoto template. That should stop the bot from flagging these pages and keeping the request intact. Thought I'd let you know for your use in the future. :) Sweet kate (talk) 16:10, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: List of members of the Association of Theological Schools in the United States and Canada
Hello Zigzig20s. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of List of members of the Association of Theological Schools in the United States and Canada, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: F1: The page is not a file. Thank you. A le_Jrb talk 14:32, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ruidoso News


A tag has been placed on Ruidoso News requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion," which appears inside of the speedy deletion tag (if no such tag exists, the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate). Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. - Sir Pawridge talk contribs 19:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Peter Sprigg, without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 08:23, 13 July 2011 (UTC)

Yuma Sun
Hi. I'm not sure what you were trying to achieve at Yuma Sun and Yuma Daily Sun, but you can't create a new copy of an existing article and then have the original deleted as a duplicate - your new one was the duplicate. But if you'd like to explain what you were trying to do, I'll be happy to advise. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 18:06, 13 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi. Sorry for my over-reaction yesterday - I'd had a tough day dealing with troublemakers, and your demanding that I do something incorrect wasn't something I was in a mood to deal with. But I should still have been more helpful. Anyway, the problem with renaming an article by creating a new one and deleting the old one is that, by the terms of Wikipedia's CC-BY-SA 3.0 licensing, we are required to retain the history of old versions of an article so that the appropriate copyright accreditation can be given. So the way to do it really is to "Move" the article to its new name - you should have that under one of your tab menus.
 * However, having said that, as the newspaper's own web site calls it the "Yuma Sun" and not the "Yuma Daily Sun", I think it should probably remain at its current name - at least, it shouldn't be renamed without a discussion at WP:RM. But other than the name, I think your new version looks fine, and I see no reason not to go with it. So I've restored and "userfied" your version of the article to User:Zigzig20s/Yuma Daily Sun, and what I suggest now is that you edit the existing Yuma Sun article and replace its contents with your new version. When you've done that, give me a shout and I'll delete your userfied copy -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:27, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome
Always happy to be of help - keep up the good work, and happy editing! -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:29, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

July 2011
Please do not remove maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been reverted. Thank you. The article in question is mostly cited to his FRC profile, his own writings, and similar. Therefore it lacks third party sourcing. There is little evidence (e.g. from that "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" exists. Therefore its notability is in question. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 05:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

Paraguayan ministers
I see you created alot of Paraguayan ministers today. One problem I see is that you created a box at the bottom of each article entitled "Fernando Lugo cabinet". There is a better way to do it. Right now, if a new member is appointed, you have to edit all the articles to update the change. If you create a template you only have one place to make the change.

An example of a template is Template:Governors of Pennsylvania. To add the template to an article, place at the bottom of the article. For more information see WP:TMP

Also there is one minor error with your boxes... An example is on Camilo Soares Machado article, his name in the box should be in black and not a wikilink. You are already on his page. I've been correcting the mistake when I see them. If you have questions on anything, don't hesitate to ask on my talk page. Bgwhite (talk) 06:57, 10 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok... I went ahead and started the template. I added two ministers.  Can you add the rest?
 * Template is Template:Fernando Lugo cabinet
 * I added the template to Enzo Cardozo Jimenez's article.


 * Unfortunately, I don't know Spanish either and Google translate is also my friend. Be lucky that the Google's translation of Spanish is really good. I've had to use it in the past week for Bulgarian and Urdu... I had to figure out what the translation was saying.  What I find interesting is that their is no minister articles on Spanish Wikipedia.  I could understand them missing on the English side, but the Spanish side? Bgwhite (talk) 07:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
 * The template is looking good. I'm trying to make the template be auto-collapsed, so this bug huge template doesn't dwarf the small articles.  But, I can't figure it out.  I've asked for help. Bgwhite (talk) 07:17, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Spell (novel)


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"Crazytalk"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dallas_Voice&diff=461470911&oldid=461468612

This is "crazytalk"?

Long story short, a DMN article writer says it's in Uptown and implies it's not in Oak Lawn, the magazine admin. asserts that it's not in Uptown, but in Oak Lawn

And such issues are encyclopedic WhisperToMe (talk) 20:14, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

Category capitalization
Just a reminder that the names of categories use sentence capitalization, not title capitalization, and in particular that the category for living people is "Living people", not "Living People". —Paul A (talk) 03:07, 21 November 2011 (UTC)

November 2011
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Proposed deletion of Identities: Journal for Politics, Gender and Culture


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Deletion discussion about Identities: Journal for Politics, Gender and Culture
Hello, Zigzig20s, and thanks for contributing to Wikipedia!

I wanted to let you know that some editors are discussing at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Identities: Journal for Politics, Gender and Culture whether the article Identities: Journal for Politics, Gender and Culture should be in Wikipedia. I encourage you to comment there if you think the article should be kept in the encyclopedia.

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Thanks again for your contributions! Guillaume2303 (talk) 08:07, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * As an aside, I'm surprised that an editor with the number of edits that you have apparently does not know the difference between speedy deletion and proposed deletion. In any case, we're at AfD now. --Guillaume2303 (talk) 08:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I meant proposed deletion. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 08:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure the entry for Identities: Journal for Politics, Gender and Culture can be justified/salvaged. You might find another place for the same information on a list of interdisciplinary journals or an article that addresses cross-disciplinary studies, esp. in the Balkans. I'll keep looking around. Bmclaughlin9 (talk) 20:25, 7 December 2011 (UTC)

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Talk pages
I see you tagging talk pages, thank you.

Couple of minor problems:
 * WikiProject Sports doesn't go on biographies. The project doesn't contain people.
 * reqphoto has been depreciated, it is now.

I'm sure there is more, but my brain is small and can only fit so much info into it. Bgwhite (talk) 07:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

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Piltdown, East Sussex
Came across this while stub-sorting, expanded it a bit - but don't forget to check where your links are going! Hamlet leads to the play: you wanted Hamlet (place). I've fixed the link. Pam D  12:52, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

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I notice you are doing a lot of work identifying articles that do not have images. Could I ask that you take note of the categories available. For example for a person the reason for notoriety has a category and the place also has a specific category. So Talk:Jean-Charles Marchiani should have rather than. I realise that getting to know all the categories can be a task in its self so if you wish you can just add to add it to the top category; I run over the list at least once a week and classify them in more detail.--Traveler100 (talk) 17:38, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
 * same goes for Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in the United States and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of people of the United States
 * How are the areas being selected? I noticed a heap of Western Australian ones on my watchlist this morning, nearly all of which are unpopulated localities in the middle of nowhere. Simply littering the tag everywhere in the hope that the one or two people taking photos will change their priorities for no apparent reason (or alternatively ignore the tag because it's completely useless) doesn't seem to be a terribly constructive use of time - I suggest working with the WikiProjects concerned to focus it on useful targets. Orderinchaos 04:19, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I also spend some time sorting out your reqphoto entries. Either redefinition or creating additional sub-categories because existing categories have become too large to be of use to many project users. May I suggest spending some time removing the tag from articles that have images and adding images from commons to articles with requests. I have found this can be a large percentage of a category.--Traveler100 (talk) 05:09, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Please, you are obviously going through lists of people by region and profession. Could you before starting a new set look up the correct sub-category. I Have done little else for the past two weeks but clean up after you. --Traveler100 (talk) 19:20, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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Wondering, what actually do you want a picture of here Talk:Baron Glendevon? --Traveler100 (talk) 16:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes. The current one would be good.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:50, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

WP US tagging
What exactly are the criteria you are using for tagging all these articles into WPUS? To me it seems there is no compelling reason to add them just because the subject of the article happens to be American. That is far too broad a scope for any WikiProject to have. Elizium23 (talk) 02:59, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, if they are American citizens, they are part of the US. Same thing goes for every nationality.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:02, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * And again. Could you please use and not  (and same goes for people of other countries). It took some time to clean this up last year and now here we go again. Yes I can clean up after you but it is slowing me from doing what I want to do which is add images to articles with photo requests. --Traveler100 (talk) 05:15, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I did, thanks.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:21, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

A thought...
Perhaps you could use some of the free time you're obviously looking to fill by looking on Commons first (the place which most photographers upload to) to make sure that there are not already images there for the subjects you are tagging. In nearly all cases, the category on Commons has the same title as the article on Wikipedia - e.g. Hilton, Western Australia images can be found at commons:Category:Hilton, Western Australia. Perry Lakes Reserve is another such which you tagged, but which has ample photos on Commons. This would demonstrate that you actually wish to take some responsibility for your work and are capable of doing work which is useful to others, and are not simply wasting everyone's time. Orderinchaos 18:06, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I added a picture to Hilton and Perry Lakes Reserve.Zigzig20s (talk) 18:47, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Another suggestion. There are many articles you have tagged with reqphoto that now have images. If they are not in your watch list you can use the image checker or FIST using the show images on page option. They can remove the template.--Traveler100 (talk) 17:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but why wouldn't the person who adds the picture remove the tag? That would make more sense.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Warning
I see a number of people have either asked you to take more care with your reqphoto tagging (see above), or stop completely (Australian_Wikipedians'_notice_board). You've apparently ignored those requests and have persisted with an attitude that you will continue regardless. I now see edit warring over the same thing. It's been explained that what you're doing is disruptive to the efficient running of the encyclopaedia, and doesn't help the volunteers who actually create content (text and photos). Smartass comments like "... I wish I didn't have to do it all on my own." dont help your case. Orderinchaos has suggested how you could actually help at Commons, but you've ignored this suggestions too. This is you first and final warning: if you persist you will be blocked without further notice. Moondyne (talk) 02:03, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * You've been around here for years and have made lots of useful contributions, so this behaviour is both strange and unnecessary. My advice is to find another activity.  Try Special:NewPagesFeed. Moondyne (talk) 02:35, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Your comment is rather strange. I have used WikiCommons recently, after that person suggested it (see above), although I did NOT appreciate his tone. Again, see above. Thank you.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Am I allowed to add a reqphoto tag to this page: William W. Brien? I now live in fear, after your warning which sounds more like a threat to me.Zigzig20s (talk) 02:43, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you have another user name at Commons. This shows nothing since 2008. Honestly, what is the likelihood that tagging that article is going to cause someone to take a photo of the guy? My guess is not much.  It will however add another entry to the enormous Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in California which makes that category less and less useful.  Moondyne (talk) 03:07, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Well I fundamentally disagree with you (but apparently I shouldn't, or I'll get blocked!), I think it would definitely prompt people to take a picture of him because it shows people like me care. Same thing goes for towns in Australia, etc. I added a picture from Wikicommons for Hilton and other places after the guy above was uncouth to me.Zigzig20s (talk) 03:47, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * I think you miss the point to your advantage and go oh dear me when people challenge your rather annoying reqphoto habits, in the long term you are not benefiting wikipedia by the tags. Just accept that and try something else.  Your obviously severe geographically challenged affliction (you wouldnt put the tags up if you actually knew where some of the places were) is noted by 2 long term experienced administrators - and you give them the attitude... you have reqphoto'd wikipedia for years now, and I really think it is a pointless exercise.  Take a hint, try changing your habit SatuSuro 05:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Please read the comments by Orderinchaos and tell me if you can see a hint of attitude or none at all. Yes, we need pictures. Perhaps you guys disagree. I absolutely do not see why requesting a picture of the mayor of Beverly Hills is too challenging. Please explain.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:31, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Perhaps you could go and take one? I admit that I missed he was a serving mayor but I think you were being selective in your choice of examples.  How about this one?. I'm not going to play games with you - I just want you to stop mass-tagging without thought, which is what a bunch of people have asked you to do. Moondyne (talk) 08:14, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I apologise if I came across annoyed - Wikipedia is a hobby for me, I have a busy work / other life outside the project, and I get annoyed when people in my view do "busy work" that gets in the way. Orderinchaos 08:37, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * perhaps you guys disagree - hu? you still dont get it - unselective, and blanket usage of the reqphoto over years is disruptive. whether you have a sensitive spot and dont like the way other editors challenge your tagging, perhaps you should try something else. As to the value of photos of people - from any place or any context, that is a totally different subject - which I am not interested in the slightest - I simply take issue with blanket place tagging which shows you are at the best of times geographically and wikipedia-wise challenged (not even checking commons to see if there are any photos there) SatuSuro 08:11, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Somebody please tell me which pages I am allowed to add reqphoto to and which ones I am not. I don't see why I couldn't for Australian politicians, as it is very easy to take a picture as soon as a Wikipedian is in a state capital. As for small towns, I am planning a move and thought it would be great for a local Wikipedian to add pictures. However, this is a minor hobby and I absolutely don't have time to go through WikiCommons all the time, even though I was a good lad and did it when I was asked to (Hilton, etc.). Frankly I don't have time to talk to strangers on Wikipedia either.Zigzig20s (talk) 17:46, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the point people are trying to get over is that you may be going against the intention or spirit of the template. The reqphoto is intended as a request on wikipdians to assist in finding an image when someone is having difficulty finding one. Now for newbies they can be excused for not knowing about Commons and other resources but that is not the case here. Also it think the point being made is that it appears you are not specifically wanting an image for a particular page but are scanning a particular subject and labelling all pages. Personally I find this fine provided you set the parameters correctly or add a WikiProject or two so bots can reset the parameter. Provided that is being done to then use tools like FIST to scan the categories for images on Commons, Flickr and other places.--Traveler100 (talk) 17:59, 17 August 2012 (UTC)


 * In essence, the point is that the reqphoto tag is requesting a photo. A parallel - you walk into a bookstore and they don't have the book you want, so you order it in. If however you were to order every book ever published by a certain publisher just because you think they should be stocked, the bookshop would likely not honour your order. The situation here is somewhat similar. The genuine requests are being drowned out by visual static / noise, photographers can't tell which ones are genuinely requested and which ones are simply marked "not present", as the tag does not distinguish by priority. As a result, the photographers stop using the tag, risking either duplication or incomplete coverage.
 * A side note on politicians - Australian copyright law means that we cannot use photos of politicians by pretty much any other means but taking them ourselves. This excludes for example using Parliamentary collections or political party collections, and also means we have to get them one at a time. Leaving aside the issue that this leads to poor-quality paparazzi-style photographs (I've taken a few) with very random selectivity, a good photo generally requires that one asks permission to take a photo. Our experience is that this is generally denied. As only about 10 politicians from my state have photos on Wikipedia / Commons, it can be safely assumed that a given politician probably does not have a photo on here, so the reqphoto tag simply as a marker of "this has no photo" is not terribly useful. If someone had a particular wish to see a given politician (let's say for example they've just written an article about an event which that person visited and think a photo of that person would aid their article), then using the reqphoto tag would be useful as it flags to local editors that, if there is an opportunity, this person's photo is a priority.
 * I hope this explains things a bit. One final point - you mention that you don't have time to talk to people, go through Commons etc. Please consider that this also applies to us too! There's probably 4 or 5 active editors in Western Australia and maybe at most 50 in Australia right now. I'm clearly not the only editor who gets the sense that you are rudely telling us what to do without regard to our time constraints, priorities, etc. I was offended by that and I apologise for over-reacting. But please be more mindful of the fact there are human beings on the other side of your computer screen - people with jobs, families and lives - who are not at your beck and call. Orderinchaos 19:38, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding politicians, yes, we need pictures because they are elected officials and you are paying for their salaries through your taxes. Now, anybody can get off this website and look at their parliamentary webpage, but this would lead to the death of Wikipedia. Similarly for small towns, one can use google image, and stop using Wikipedia again. I am simply trying to improve the website. I do think elected officials take precedence over small towns in terms of notability, but both are significant.Zigzig20s (talk) 19:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Is there a way to know which Australian Wikipedian lives in state capitals? I don't mind leaving a message on their talkpage asking them to contact their local politicians to add a picture if you want.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:03, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * How do you propose getting acceptable quality images of politicians in Australia, given the copyright limitations on official photos? Orderinchaos 21:30, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * For example if a Wikipedian lives in Perth, he or she should try to take pictures of those politicians.Zigzig20s (talk) 22:36, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Did you read what I wrote above? I'm a member of a party, I meet these people regularly, and *I* can't get photos. It's generally seen as blatantly rude to poke a camera in someone's face without permission. What chance has an ordinary member of the public? Orderinchaos 04:51, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Be rude. But really I find that surprising. I'm a politico too if you must know, and the politicians I know wouldn't mind at all. They'd welcome the free advertising. Perhaps Australian politicians are attention-averse, but I find that hard to believe.Zigzig20s (talk) 05:05, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I am not being rude, I'm just surprised that you would think that. Most politicians I deal with are from an older generation that distrusts technology and are taught by their parties that PR is to be tightly controlled, and their staffers come from a similar school of thought (especially when they hear the word "Wikipedia".) I've managed to get two to supply official portraits, but one of them had unresolved copyright issues (they were happy to release it but turned out the photo was already subject to copyright other than theirs), the other is in use at Colin Barnett and I was very lucky to get it. Going around shooting pictures of them randomly at public events, when they are not necessarily looking their best, is counterproductive to getting future cooperation from them. Orderinchaos 09:29, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't understand what the big deal is. If you are unable to take a picture of those people, others will, as long as we add a reqphoto tag. You are not the only person in the world with a prerogative to do it. The reqphoto tag is not just for you. I may even do it when I'm there.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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