Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Imelda Marcos/archive2


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was archived by Laser brain via FACBot (talk) 23:05, 6 May 2016.

Imelda Marcos

 * Nominator(s): Imeldific (talk) 22:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

This article is about... Imelda Marcos, the former First Lady of the Philippines and current congresswoman. She is famous for her shoe collection and her marriage to former Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos. During her time as First Lady, she traveled the world met with world leaders and buy artwork. She still serves the Philippines through her work in Congress. Imeldific (talk) 22:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)

Comments by Caeciliusinhorto
Oppose. I'm not sure this article is ready for FA status yet.

A few problems:


 * The prose is uneven, and some of it needs quite a lot of work. For example:
 * "As First Lady, Imelda built architecture in and around the metropolis of Manila"
 * "Her role in the presidency was controversial because she was involved in altercations, including one with The Beatles when the band allegedly snubbed her invitation for a state dinner at the presidential palace, and another with Dovie Beams for the actress' alleged relations with Ferdinand."
 * "After they left Malacañang Palace, she was found to have left behind 15 mink coats, 508 gowns, 1,000 handbags, and pairs of shoes, the exact number of which varies with estimates of up to 7,500 pairs."
 * "The location where her shoes and jewelry were kept was later destroyed and the contents stolen and a painting of her was destroyed outside the Palace."
 * Sourcing is... interesting:
 * Here Lies Love is used as a source about her life. Why is a concept album about Imelda Marcos a reliable source for wikipedia?
 * this is a blog. The article in question is sourced to Reuters, so there must be a better copy of it somewhere, surely?
 * The reliability of Rappler has been questioned
 * Her tour of Libya is sourced to this, which doesn't mention it at all (and even if it did, there must surely be a better source!?)
 * Many of the sources given are simply reviews of the documentary Imelda. Imelda Marcos is a sufficiently notable and controversial figure that I'm sure there must be better out there.  Especially given that they are reviews in such esteemed publications as Deseret News, The Phoenix (newspaper), and Christian Science Monitor
 * The Daily Mail is used as a source. WP:BLPSOURCES says that material only supported by tabloid journalism should not be added to an article.  If better sources can be found for the claims, then the DM shouldn't be cited; if they cannot, the claims should not appear in the article.
 * I'm concerned about the lead. The first paragraph, third sentence, talks about her collection of 1000 pairs of shoes.  While this is famously true, it comes ahead of any discussion of her controversial role in a dictatorship, which barely appears in the lead at all.  WP:UNDUE and WP:NPOV both spring to mind.

Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 10:11, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

Coordinator note: Substantial issues have been raised here, and the article does not appear to have been properly prepared for FAC. Therefore, I will be archiving the nomination. -- Laser brain  (talk)  23:05, 6 May 2016 (UTC) -- Laser brain  (talk)  23:05, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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