Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Governors of Washington/archive1


 * The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:25, 14 March 2011.

List of Governors of Washington

 * Nominator(s): Bgwhite (talk) 07:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Bringing another governor's list up for nomination. Last governor's list to pass FL was Idaho and Washington is patterned after Idaho. Photos are included as Washington has similar copyright laws to that of the federal government. Dates given in the territorial governor section are the dates that I could find. There is a dearth of western Washington newspapers that have been digitized between 1870–1890. However, from the FAQ on the Washington State Library page, the Puget Sound newspaper from the missing time period is next in line to be released. Bgwhite (talk) 07:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


 *  Images check  I have serious concerns regarding images from the State of Washington due to the following disclaimer on their website: "Our site may contain text, artwork, photos or other content that is copyrighted by others and is being used with the express permission of the copyright holder. Therefore, it is recommended that you contact our Webmaster or Communications Director for permission to use information contained on this site." Have you been able to confirm the copyright status from each image sourced to the State of Washington? --Admrboltz (talk) 21:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree with Admrboltz here. We can't assume the official portraits are public-domain just because the website is. Wikipedia is a freely licensed site with copyrighted photos, for example. —Designate (talk) 22:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. It was unusual, which is why I confirmed it by email with research@sos.wa.gov.  They said they are in the public domain, but they wished to receive credit and use the Secretary of State privacy policy as that is their boss.  Here is the digital archive's public domain and copyright policy that makes it crystal clear.  If you view the photos at their site, you will notice no copyright or access restrictions. Bgwhite (talk) 00:06, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Would it be possible to have that email sent to OTRS listing the specific images they have guaranteed are free of copyright? --Admrboltz (talk) 00:09, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Email has been sent to OTRS. This was Washington's email response, "Thank you for checking with us. All photos retrieved from the Digital Archives website which you are using are in the public domain. Because they were created using state funds, they are a public record." Bgwhite (talk) 17:35, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * It passed OTRS and they have put their notice on the photographs. Bgwhite (talk) 22:53, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Images check - all OK now. -  Admr Bolt  z  22:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Dab/EL check - ELs are fine, though article links to John Rogers a dab page. --Admrboltz (talk) 21:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed Bgwhite (talk) 00:06, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * The lieutenant governors need a text indication of party, so we're not indicating information with color alone. —Designate (talk) 22:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
 * This has been brought up before on other FLC governor candidates. For example, from the Utah FLC  nomination.
 * Per WP:COLOR color can not be the only way to convey an important information. However you use color as the only way to indicate if the lieutenant governor is a democrat or republican.
 * My personal feeling is that since this is a list of governors, we can get away with that; want to know about the Lt. Governors, go to their list. However, I've dealt with this before on the California list and will add references to the ones that do not match their governor's party. --Golbez (talk) 22:14, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's not very important. You could have "All lieutenant governors were members of the same party as the corresponding governors unless specified." and just have a note for the few that are different. —Designate (talk) 22:51, 15 May 2010 (UTC)


 * I stand by what I said there. There needs to be some text indication, even if most are the same party. For this one, many are from different parties so it's more significant. —Designate (talk) 00:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Re overlinking, I've tended to repeatedly link people, but link parties only on their first appearance. Are you suggesting I should link people only once as well, including governors? In the past I thought it rude to ask someone to hunt for the link for someone who served more than once. --Golbez (talk) 22:39, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
 * "Overlinking" is a problem because it makes paragraphs hard to read and it runs together with more useful links. It doesn't apply here because people don't read tables in a predictable way. They could be reading from the bottom-up or picking any arbitrary date. Plus all the elements are isolated, so links aren't running together. There's no reason to be pedantic about what's linked. —Designate (talk) 00:18, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Excuse me, but I'm not being pedantic. If you're going to overlink, at least do it consistently within the article.  All or nothing.  The Rambling Man (talk) 07:27, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I removed wikilinks in the territorial governor table. I'm not sure if I do the same with Lt. Governors.  I never heard the word pedantic... sad when I had to look up words that was defining pedantic.  I'm a dullard. Bgwhite (talk) 08:54, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

I've gone through and Prosified 'Other high offices' as well as attempted to make sense of the party number situation. It might need a little brushing up on my rough language, but I think it's good enough to say Support. The last remaining question is, do we link the party line on each row? --Golbez (talk) 06:43, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Comments –
 * "George E. Cole was appointed governor and took office, but his appointment was never ratified by the U.S. Senate and was replaced as governor after four months." Needs "he" before "was replaced".
 * Note 15: "Governor Gregoire's first term expires January 14, 2009" needs an update.  Giants2008  ( 27 and counting ) 01:56, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Both fixed. --Golbez (talk) 04:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of updating it to the new footnote-style refs, because I loves them and hearts them and am so happy they exist. --Golbez (talk) 22:42, 25 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Support. It satisfies FL criteria now. Ruslik_ Zero 19:38, 3 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Support In the references, "Our New Governor" (PDF). Puget Sound Herald. June 12, 1862" has a "PDF" in there. Does it mean the link is missing or "PDF" is put wrongly?-- Cheetah  (talk)  22:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Fixed the broken reference.  It was missing "url=" and thus wasn't clickable. Bgwhite (talk) 23:08, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


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