Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Jul 2013

=Stale=

Graph of numerical evidence for abc conjecture
Article(s): abc conjecture

Request:
 * I thought it would be nice to illustrate the numerical evidence for abc as we do for Birch and Swinnerton-Dyer (see above). Since abc predicts there are only a finite number of abc triplets with q > 1, my suggestion is to use the computational results (see ) and plot the ratio of q > 1 triplets within a particular range of c (i.e., $6/100$, $31/1000$, $120/10000$, ... $14,482,065⁄10^{18}$), which should be a curve that approaches zero. Maybe one could also include the other triplets (q > 1.05, q > 1.1, ...). -- bender235 (talk) 13:29, 7 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * I'm not sure this is helpful. The conjecture is that a set is finite; it's very difficult to distinguish this on a plot from a set that is very sparse, especially if you are also plotting a lot of points that are not in the set. In contrast, for the BSD example you give (1) the plot concerns the growth rate of a function (the number of solutions mod each prime), something that this sort of plot is better for, and (2) plots like this one played a documented role in the formulation of the conjecture. But it's hard to judge without seeing a picture. —David Eppstein (talk) 15:51, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

Cree flags
Can anyone finalize vectorization of this file? Source is here, I used Vector Magic. Hosmich (talk) 16:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

And I decided to vectorize another Cree flag too. Source images are here, here and here. I vectorized the head as these files, but I am not certain about proportions of the flag. Can anyone finalize it and then upload as "Cree flag.svg"? Thank you. Hosmich (talk) 08:36, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

I write once more about a Cree flag. I vectorized flag of Innu as this file. But I got a message that this file is bad. Better is this flag. Could someone vectorize it? I am not willing to do it this time. Thank you. Hosmich (talk) 09:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Improve graphics on symmetry (should be easy if you know geometry well)
Article(s): en:Symmetry Request:
 * This is about the basic illustrations of mirror symmetry and rotoreflection.


 * Skills needed to improve the illustration: good understanding of basic geometry and symmetry (I have this for mirror symmetry; not so good for rotoreflection); good tools for basic vector drawing, knowing how to get that to show up properly, etc. (I don't have this).
 * It seems to me that this illustration would be more useful to readers if the basic triangles, which are described as "isoceles", weren't also equilateral. The triangles look pretty equilateral to me!  An isoceles triangle, in general, has 1 line (axis) of symmetry.  But an equilateral triangle has 3 lines of symmetry, although the drawing only indicates 1. -- Oaklandguy (talk) 19:03, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Personally I don't know how these figures could be misleading. The symmetry axes in question are marked, so it should be quite clear in context. Additionally if we change those two figures we'd need to change all other figures in en:Symmetry, too, since it's a set of pictures with a uniform style. Changing only some of them will introduce an (in my opinion) unacceptable style break. --Patrick87 (talk) 00:28, 14 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Don't think the equilateral thing is a problem, but the margins were in need of drastic revision, so I did that... AnonMoos (talk) 22:20, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

South Korean railway crossing sign
Article(s): Several Request: I have recreated the railway crossbuck used in South Korea, however it is missing the Korean-language characters included in the sign, as seen in this photo. Please add them for me. The photo can be enlarged big enough to clearly make out the characters, and they're basically shapes, so it shouldn't be too hard for someone that knows what they're doing with SVGs. Thank you.  Fry1989  eh? 02:12, 16 June 2013 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):
 * Done quite roughly, because the pic is still a bit blurry when blown up and it would probably be better done with real fonts if anyone knows how to do that in this language (or redrawn by someone who knows exactly what they are looking at). Feel free to revert or redo. Begoon &thinsp; talk  04:01, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It looks great! If anyone wants to improve it they can go right ahead, but I'm not complaining. Thank you very much.  Fry1989  eh?   17:31, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Royal Standards of Yugoslavia
Article(s): House of Karađorđević, List of Yugoslav flags Request:
 * This eagle is incorrect, if someone can add this eagle form here in all 5 flags to fix the problem. Eagle that's in use are eagle form coat of arms of Federal Republic Yugoslavia but that's not eagle used by the members of Royal's of Yugoslavia. -- Snake bgd 17:15, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Flag and coat of arms of Ascension Island
Article(s): Ascension Island, Flag of Ascension Island, Coat of arms of Ascension Island and many more instances as a flag icon transcluded by Request:
 * Recently, the Ascension Island territory has adopted a new coat of arms and started flying a new flag based on those arms. Attempts to add this image to Commons have usually resulted in copyright violations because they simply take the image supplied by the Ascension Island government at http://www.ascension-island.gov.ac/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Ascension-Island-Flag.jpg.  We have non-free images on this wiki, but they are also derived from the copyrighted source.  We need a skilled artist to be able to create a vector version of the new coat of arms based on its heraldic description rather than simply deriving a new image file from the government's source artwork.  — Andrwsc (talk · contribs) 18:12, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Image Correction
Article(s): Mazagon Dock Limited Request:
 * Boder lines are irregular and colour have to be changed thank you -- Perumalism   Chat  18:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

UVF centenary flag
Article(s): List of flags used in Northern Ireland Request:
 * Create an SVG file of the flag flown through the streets of Belfast to mark the UVF's centenary. I've listed the following sites to help anyone who wishes to take on this request: link and link

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.33.42.128 (talk • contribs) 12:56, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Same-sex marriage map
Article(s): Same-sex marriage and lots of others Request:
 * Remove the red artifacts next to Arizona and the US Virgin Islands. -- Kaldari (talk) 07:15, 29 June 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Seems like a rendering error of librsvg. It's rendered correctly, both in Firefox and in Inkscape. --Patrick87 (talk) 17:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

graph(s) to replace table of Search Warrants authorized by the secret FISA Court by year (apropos NSA, Edward Snowden, PRISM, etc.)
Article(s): United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court Request: A graph (perhaps a bar chart, or several) to replace the current table (which is missing individual entries for 1980-1999) of Search Warrants authorized by the secret FISA Court by year. We have all the data, e.g. at the cited sources: https://epic.org/privacy/wiretap/stats/fisa_stats.html https://www.fas.org/irp/agency/doj/fisa/index.html#rept The 3 remaining footnotes (c,d,e, after and b are deleted) should refer to points on the graph representing the datum in the table they annotate. -- Elvey (talk) 16:41, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):


 * Did you know that you can produce simple wiki bar charts yourself, using a new lua module, and keep the data on-wiki for easy updating?


 * See Module:Chart and an example of one being developed at User:Begoon/sandbox/casualties (see the linked templates for how it's done.)


 * You can't get all the pretty graphical effects you can in an svg, but it's quite flexible, has nice tooltips etc, quite good enough for uses like this, and has the advantage of being "dynamic" rather than "static", in that once the templates are created it's easy to update data without needing to generate a new graphic each time, or needing access to svg source code, etc... Begoon &thinsp; talk  04:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Arms of the Richthofen Family
Article(s): Baron von Richthofen, Richthofen Request:
 * Could someone possibly redraw this coat of arms in svg please, many thanks. TRAJAN 117 (talk) 06:01, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

=Resolved=

EightTNOs
Article(s): Trans-Neptunian object Request: Names
 * Change S/2011 P1 to Kerberos and S/2012 P1 to Styx. Also, enlarge their text to the same size as the other moons. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.0.29.118 (talk • contribs)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ - Dewclouds (talk) 06:05, 8 July 2013 (UTC)

Zambian rail crossbuck
Article(s): Various Request: The word "CROSSING" just needs to be equally split like "RAIL ROAD" is so there's a blank space in the middle. I had a photo but lost it, and I'm really bad with spacing letters properly so I couldn't do it myself.  Fry1989  eh? 02:11, 7 July 2013 (UTC) Graphist opinion(s):

Is this close enough (without recreating all the type - which would be the only way to do it perfectly)? Begoon &thinsp; talk 03:54, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That's great! Thanks so much :)  Fry1989  eh?   05:40, 7 July 2013 (UTC)

1996 Angola flag proposal
Article(s): Flag of Angola Request:
 * Create an SVG file of the 1996 Angolan flag proposal found at http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/a/ao!prop1.gif — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.50.194.126 (talk • contribs)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅, see File:Proposed Flag of Angola (1996).svg. --Patrick87 (talk) 19:31, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Men's Rights Movement logo
Article(s): Men's rights movement Request:
 * I need a graphic logo for the men's rights movement. In my opinion the current unofficial logo of the men's rights movement is the logo of the Men's Right's Subreddit (exists since 2008 has over 70 000 suscribers). A google search for the "men's right movement logo" shows only one another logo used on a tumblr blog and seems like a joke. I have recived permission from that subbreddit administrator to use that logo, he does not know, who is the author. The logo has no known "owner" and it is so simple that it is questionable if it can be copyrighted.  Mieciu K (talk) 19:48, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Seems to be a modification or parody of such feminism/equality symbols as Image:Parekidetasuna.svg and Image:Igualtat de sexes.svg. I could easily make an SVG version of the PNG image (minus the shading effect) by modifying one of these files, if that's what you really want, but the symbolism seems semi-questionable to me... AnonMoos (talk) 21:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Cool, I had no idea that the symbols you mentioned existed. The MRM symbol seems pretty egalitarian to me, I don't see anything questionable about it. IMHO the first thing I think about when I look at a female and male symbols merged is transexualism and not equality between the sexes but that's just my opinion. Mieciu K (talk) 21:47, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok, if that's what you want, then that's what you got. The circle with both cross below and arrow to the upper right can mean "androgynous" in some technical contexts, but in popular usage it most commonly vaguely refers to the sexes in general (see use on template Template:Sexual orientation etc.)... AnonMoos (talk) 22:38, 10 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot I really appreciate it. Mieciu K (talk) 22:53, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

✅ Comment(s):
 * Unicode (http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2600.pdf) has a character whose hexadecimal code 2642 produces &#x2642;.
 * —Wavelength (talk) 21:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * —Wavelength (talk) 21:25, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Crankshaft animation
Article(s): Crankshaft, +2 Request:
 * The movement looks really jerky to me at full size, and I think part of that is because of the sheer size of this GIF. Is it possible to smooth the motion a bit? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:05, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

Once it's loaded fully it seems pretty smooth - so I think the size is all of the reason you see "jerkiness" rather than part of the reason. Reducing the number of frames or increasing compression would both reduce the size, but also reduce the detail, and I'm loathe to do that to a featured pic. It only takes a couple of seconds to load and "settle down" for me. I put a version at File:Cshaft 18 frame.gif that's half as many frames - see how that is for you. Begoon &thinsp; talk 07:46, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi, there were local colortables per frame despite being only 256 color overall. Also, shrinked the size all little bit (200kB) with gifsicle. See if helped you. Shaddim (talk) 08:01, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I am on a slow connection, so that's always possible. I think Shaddim's version is a bit better, although I note that there seems to be a line which pops up as it's turning. Thanks a lot, though. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:05, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Uhhh, that should not happen :( ... also, can't see a line or artifact, in which frame did you see one (end of animation or...?)? Can you please give your browser you used for viewing? Shaddim (talk) 08:13, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Firefox ... 22? It appears to be that the speckles used to give shading line up and appear for a very short time (say, half a second) to be a straight line. This appears to be true of the earlier version as well. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

LaF3 structure cartoon
Looking for a diagram that shows the local coordination environment in the lanthanum trifluoride structure. Exact bond lengths not critical since it is a generalization. Just want something diagrammatic and clear, to go along with a discussion. See Figure 3.3.TCO (talk) 17:51, 13 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Bump. Help, please.TCO (talk) 17:56, 1 July 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ - no colours or labels, because, well, none specified...
 * There's a version with white or transp. background you can revert to...  Begoon &thinsp; talk  05:29, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Warriors
Article(s): WP:WARRIORS Request:
 * Please vectorize. Thanks,  Bramble  claw  x   17:54, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Begoon &thinsp; talk  10:47, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much.  Bramble  claw  x   03:07, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

African Union Diagram
Article(s): African Union Request:Malawi flag
 * Change the Malawi flag (the one towards the bottom with red, black, and green horizontal stripes and a white sun in the center) with the one adpoted last year.
 * Replace with this file: File:Nuvola Malawian flag.svg
 * 76.0.29.118 (talk) 00:35, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅: Begoon &thinsp; talk  02:20, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Chinese periodic table
Can someone create svgs at File:114 Fl zh-hans.svg and File:116 Lv zh-hans.svg of the new Chinese characters for flerovium and livermorium? See Periodic table (simplified Chinese), but they should look as one character (see the other svgs). Double sharp (talk) 15:02, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Currently there is "钅夫" and "钅立". Those are the characters you want, right? Would " 钅 夫" and " 钅 立" look the way you want them?
 * I don't know anything about Chinese, so I don't know what it is supposed to look and can only provide you with technical support. But if the new characters are nothing more than two existing characters without any space between them, this can easily be solved with CSS as I just did above. Creating SVGs (which look ugly when rendered so small in my opinion) wouldn't be necessary then. --Patrick87 (talk) 15:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Something like that. Would prefer the width of a normal character, but this works very well. Thanks! Double sharp (talk) 14:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This is over-elaborate, and might not even be what you want, but it's supposed to work in IE9, FF, Chrome, Opera, Safari - see link. The font weight gets affected by the transform, and it's quite possibly no use at all - I don't know how it's supposed to look "squashed up", but (using your from the template, and making the width 0.6 for the transform, but you could try 0.5 etc...) - just for fun:-
 *  钅 夫 and  钅 立   Begoon &thinsp; talk  17:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
 * OMG...this is awesome (and yes, that's how it should look). Thank you so much!!! (P.S. The first one is encoded in Unicode, but since hardly any fonts support it yet, I don't want to use the Unicode character for accessibility.) Double sharp (talk) 08:09, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Implemented. Double sharp (talk) 08:14, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Cool. A CSS purist would tell us that we shouldn't be using the HTML tag, because it's deprecated, and we should be using font-size in the CSS instead. That's up to you, though... It looks pretty good to me on the page. Begoon &thinsp; talk  09:31, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

España-class illustrations
Article(s): España-class battleship, Spanish battleship España Spanish battleship Alfonso XIII, Spanish battleship Jaime I Request:
 * Can someone create versions of these illustrations without the text? It's not particularly useful for illustrative purposes, and if anything, is visually distracting, since it can't be read without clicking on the image. Thanks. -- Parsecboy (talk) 19:22, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ Patrick87 (talk) 21:38, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Excellent, thanks. I'll swap them out in the articles shortly. Parsecboy (talk) 19:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

File:Dongbu Group Logo.png
Article(s): Dongbu Group Request:
 * Please reduce the resolution of this image in order for it to comply with WP:NFCC#3b. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  17:48, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ - replaced with File:Dongbu Group Logo.svg - Begoon &thinsp; talk  19:41, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Did you now services like, or ? They allow you to identify a font by uploading a small text sample in a raster format. You can then exactly rebuild text in logos like this one without the need for automatic tracing, resulting in much better quality and smaller file size. In this logo it's for example a variant of "Frutiger Bold" (a font bundled with Adobe products if I'm not mistaken, but easily found on the web). --Patrick87 (talk) 20:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yeah - I redrew it in the end - Frutiger wasn't a perfect match, and it was easiest just to redraw the 5 characters as the rest of the trace was a bit off too. Begoon &thinsp; talk  23:37, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
 * The SVG looks good. Thank you. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  07:04, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Kota Kinabalu emblem
Article(s): Kota Kinabalu

Request:
 * Can someone fix this, there is something wrong on the emblem border when I vectorize it. A difference can be seen with the old version (PNG). &mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 13:05, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * Is that closer? I only adjusted the gradient alignments - I didn't try to change the colours in the gradient. (try flushing the cache/purging if some thumbnails don't update quickly...) Begoon &thinsp; talk  13:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Very perfect! Thank you! :) &mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 14:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I gave it a shot, too, so it's even a little closer to the original rendering now. --Patrick87 (talk) 17:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Begoon and Patrick87. :) &mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 17:58, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Argentine television
Article(s): Template:Argentina-tv-stub Request:
 * I need a small svg of a TV with the Argentine flag inside. Similar to Union flag tv.svg, which is about British television -- Cambalachero (talk) 23:39, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
 * (Copied from the photography workshop) nagualdesign (talk) 23:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * ✅ File:Argentina flag tv.svg -  Begoon &thinsp; talk  04:11, 25 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks Cambalachero (talk) 12:39, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

Illustrations of circles packed into a circle
Article(s): Circle packing in a circle Request:
 * Please create diagrams for the cases that do not have a diagram yet. The images should use the same style as those already in the article (i.e. big grey circle with smaller black circles). The diagrams can be modeled after the illustrations at http://www2.stetson.edu/~efriedma/cirincir/. This should be a relatively easy request and I could probably do it myself, if I had a suitable program. So if you don't want to take this request, but know a good program suitable for this purpose that is freely available on the internet for download, just let me know. (Btw., since I am on Windows, I do have Paint, but I find that to be a pain to work with because it doesn't allow you to create separate objects and doesn't support working with different layers). --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  08:15, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):
 * I expect someone will be able to do this for you fairly quickly. But for more about creating your own SVGs I'd recommend: Graphics tutorials and Graphics Lab/Resources or even Comparison of vector graphics editors Shep  Talk  09:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * myself now. If you want to take one of the others, feel free to join. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  10:04, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅. File:Disk pack12.png --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  11:29, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * . --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  12:02, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Symbol question.svg 14 circles done. File:Disk pack14.png. However, there is some unnecessary whitespace above and below the grey circle. I don't understand why it is present in this image, but not in the previous images. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  14:01, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I cropped it for you. Ideally these would be SVG images, because they are simple geometric shapes, and vector graphics scale without quality loss and would be very small filesizes for simple stuff like this. But you're doing a great job with the png files. Inkscape is the standard free vector image editor, freely downloadable. Sorry I don't have time today - nearly 1am, and I'm tired, but I'm happy to finish off what you can't do, and/or vectorise them for you tomorrow if nobody else gets to it first. Begoon &thinsp; talk  14:14, 26 July 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅: All diagrams ready in SVG format up to n=20! --Patrick87 (talk) 01:35, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Great work, looks very good. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  06:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Great work, looks very good. --  Toshio   Yamaguchi  06:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Coats of arms of Sabah (1982-1988)
Article(s): Coats of arms of Sabah Request:
 * Can someone put a slogan SABAH MAJU JAYA on the ribbon like this one → . &mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 17:00, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

Graphist opinion(s):

✅ Is that ok? Begoon &thinsp; talk 17:49, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Yup, thats what I want. Thanks again Begoon! :) &mdash; иz нίpнόpʜᴇʟᴘ! 17:58, 27 July 2013 (UTC)