Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018 April 11



Template:LDS-UK-States

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:LDS-Europe. Primefac (talk) 16:56, 20 April 2018 (UTC) I've suggested the "membership statistics" article be merged into the main article, upon which this nav template would have 4 links in it. Even without that merger, this is a navbox for 5 links.
 * LDS-UK-States

It's pretty clear that this navbox was created with inspiration from the one corresponding to US States (as evidenced in its name, which should really say "constituent countries" rather than "states"), but while it makes a lot of sense to have a navbox when there are 50 articles to navigate between, I don't think this applies to 4-5 articles. Those can simply be listed in the individual articles' "See also" sections, which in fact on the main article they already are.

So, in summary, I would suggest deleting this navbox. I really don't see any legitimate need for it. Newbiepedian (talk · contribs · X! · logs) 18:20, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm the one who made the template and I think it was in response to another user's concern that the country's church history pages were broken up into regions. I don't feel passionately about it though, and I'm fine with deleting it and adding See Also sections to the pages instead. Rachel Helps (BYU) (talk) 18:51, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Merge to LDS-Europe. -- wooden  superman  14:12, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Iranian photographers

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 16:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC) WP:INDISCRIMINATE template whose only apparent inclusion criterion is that the person is an Iranian photographer. Since already exists, however, there's no need for a navbox -- navboxes can be created for criteria that represent a distinction, such as the winners of a specific photography award, but are not created just to comprehensively replicate a category. Bearcat (talk) 17:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Iranian photographers
 * Delete per nominator....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:16, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:RTÉ Sport

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The result of the discussion was delete. after replacing with a category if useful Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:46, 20 April 2018 (UTC) As a list of TV presenters, this fails WP:PERFNAV -- wooden superman  14:15, 28 March 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * RTÉ Sport
 * replace with a category. Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

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Template:PRC Barnstar

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 April 20. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * PRC_Barnstar
 * People's_Republic_of_China_National_Merit_Medal
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Template:Soviet Barnstar

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 April 20. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 22:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Soviet_Barnstar
 * Soviet_Union_Barnstar_of_National_Merit
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Template:Star Trek time travel stories

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 13:56, 20 April 2018 (UTC) Incoherent and arbitrary navbox subject: time travel stories in Star Trek. The articles, the stories, aren't related to each other, beside the fact that they're time travel stories set in the same fictional universe. We don't have Star Trek love stories, Star Trek ethical dilemmas or Star Trek supernatural mysteries either. There's already Category:Star_Trek_time_travel_episodes. soetermans. ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 15:23, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Star Trek time travel stories
 * Keep Time travel is a genre in science fiction, and articles that include this are usually noted in references for the television show. THanks Starspotter (talk) 15:47, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Are you familiar with WP:NAVBOX? That time travel is a genre in science fiction in general is not the discussion here; we're talking about a navigational template about time travel stories in Star Trek; that's the subject of the template. Navboxes provide useful links to related subjects. or  are coherent. The episodes listed aren't related to each other, beyond the fact that they're situated in the same fictional universe. That's not what navboxes are for.  soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 12:12, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep, very interesting template. The relationship is in the title, Star Trek episodes related to time travel. Star Trek is a science fiction show, and the time-travel aspect of SciFi has a long and established history (unlike the proposed templates for love stories, ethical dilemmas, etc.). Giving the readers interested in time-travel in SciFi a quick guide to the time-travel episodes of Star Trek provides a useful service and research tool. Randy Kryn (talk) 03:24, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Good Lord, how come you're not familiar with navboxes either? "Very interesting"? You're basically saying WP:ILIKEIT. Why are you assuming that readers would like to know more about other time travel stories? There's no overarching relation. This is not what navboxes are for, even if you find it interesting. And again, there's already a category listing. soetermans . ↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK 19:25, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete, looks like WP:OR. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk)  23:45, 27 March 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Primefac (talk) 12:18, 28 March 2018 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete. As nom notes, this is not a suitable topic for a navbox.  -- wooden  superman  13:41, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * delete, no parent article. Frietjes (talk) 13:46, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete, as nom mentions, there is already a category. E to the Pi times i  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 04:05, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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 * Delete There is a category and there is no parent article....William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:26, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:Celebrity Bainisteoir
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2018 April 20. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 22:45, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Celebrity_Bainisteoir
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Template:EmmyAward ComedyWriting
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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:EmmyAward ComedyWriting. Primefac (talk) 16:16, 20 April 2018 (UTC) Propose merging Template:EmmyAward ComedyWriting 1950s with Template:EmmyAward ComedyWriting.
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 2010s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 2000s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 1990s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 1980s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 1970s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 1960s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting 1950s
 * EmmyAward ComedyWriting

No need for all these navboxes. Can easily be handled by a single navbox. Also, episode titles should be stripped out. The writer won the award, not the episode. The same way that Academy Award Best Original Screenplay does not include the films, just the writers, etc, etc... -- wooden superman  14:45, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * merge, one navbox is enough. Frietjes (talk) 12:00, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
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Template:FiftyShades
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The result of the discussion was redirect to Template:Fifty Shades of Grey. Primefac (talk) 13:52, 20 April 2018 (UTC) Unused. I saw this template was unused back in January, just after it was created, and I have checked back several times since then to see if it had been brought into use, and it never has. I have not only checked that there are no transclusions, but also confirmed by searching for excerpts of its text that there are no articles on which it has been substed. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 07:59, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
 * FiftyShades
 * Speedy delete as duplication of Fifty Shades of Grey under WP:CSD. Alternatively, redirect it.  -- wooden  superman  14:50, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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