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Template:Latest stable software release/BiglyBT

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The result of the discussion was delete. Primefac (talk) 18:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC) A software release template belonging to a deleted article. Non-used template The Banner  talk 21:15, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Latest stable software release/BiglyBT


 * I have a draft in my sandbox that I'm updating (User:TuxPaper/sandbox/BiglyBT). It has an Software Infobox which I wish to setup with external release data.  I followed  Template:Infobox_software but that obviously makes a non-draft template, which as you point out, ends up being listed as non-used.  Is there documentation on a way to make a draft version that will display correctly in my sandbox draft page? TuxPaper (talk) 23:03, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * As long as there is no community approved article about BiglyBT, the template will be unused. And with your declared COI it is a very bad idea that you work on an article about Bigly. The Banner  talk 23:17, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Ignoring COI for the moment, how have previous draft articles setup their templates so that everything would be ready for a review, without running into the "non-used template" issue? If one of the points of a draft is to have it as complete and professional as possible for a reviewer to judge its validity, how have draft creators managed templates like this in the past? (This isn't a rhetorical question, but a genuine one). I don't disagree with your assessment, but I am seeking documentation or direction on this issue in general. TuxPaper (talk) 23:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I have checked a few cases and in all cases the article was older then the template. The Banner  talk 08:26, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * One of the reasons this stupid setup fails. It's just a simple line of text, just put it in the infobox like every other piece of text. --Gonnym (talk) 08:29, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Palestine municipality

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The result of the discussion was subst and delete. Please make sure that when substing the template the blank params are not included to avoid unnecessary code added to the page (which may require some sandboxing). Primefac (talk) 23:54, 25 June 2019 (UTC) Replace and delete
 * Infobox Palestine municipality

Municipality-specific wrapper for Infobox settlement, with limited transclusions, on pretty stable sets of articles. Subst:itution will reduce the maintenance overhead, reduce the cognitive burden for editors, and enable articles to benefit more immediately from improvements to the current parent template.

Note: Despite being named "Infobox settlement" the template is not only used for settlements. Per its documentation, Infobox settlement is "used to produce an Infobox for human settlements (cities, towns, villages, communities) as well as other administrative districts, counties, provinces, et cetera—in fact, any subdivision below the level of a country".

List_of_infoboxes/Geography_and_place: 77.183.60.95 (talk) 20:06, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * 1) The only Arab-country having a specific place infobox
 * 2) The only non-UN-member having a specific place infobox
 * Keep. The template has a large number of specific parameters, including elaborate handling of transliterations, shortcuts for the governorates, and automatic addition of short descriptions. If uses of this template are converted to the generic infobox, the result will be a mess of code. Also, the template was previously discussed in 2007 and in 2011 . – Uanfala (talk) 12:14, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Pinging participants in the last discussion:, , , , , , . – Uanfala (talk) 13:35, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * the automatic short description code is useful. However, most of the other custom code seems to be just switches. I am undecided. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 22:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Solved. Code has been changed to use the short description code in Infobox settlement. TerraCyprus (talk) 12:01, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Question. - there is a short description code right in the beginning of Infobox settlement - why would that not be sufficient?


 * Are you aware of any other set of administrative territorial entities that has specific code to generate a short description. In Infobox Palestine municipality which will be displayed, the selfmade or the one from Infobox settlement? 77.183.46.198 (talk) 23:44, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I am not aware of any other specific infoboxes that specifically automatically generate short description code. It would be possible (I think) to implement this with Infobox settlement by setting the governate value to the subdivision_name parameter and type to the type parameter. However I am still undecided. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 09:44, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Solved. Code has been changed to use the short description code in Infobox settlement. TerraCyprus (talk) 12:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I noticed there is a blank parameter, however, I am unsure whether the meaning of a name can be summed up in a short enough way for an infobox. I will support substitution if the meaning parameter is removed from the infobox before substitution. I will oppose substitution if this parameter is kept. My reasoning against blank parameters in infoboxes can be found in The TfD for Template:Infobox Prefecture Japan. Dreamy Jazz 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:46, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

77.191.61.64 (talk) 11:52, 10 June 2019 (UTC) -- could you close this? 1x Keep, 3x Replace and delete. Also the template code has been changed, concerns of the 1x Neutral vote addressed. 89.14.130.139 (talk) 11:32, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom. short_description is superfluous, as that is generated by Infobox settlement. TerraCyprus (talk) 12:00, 8 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Question: What is special about Arabic in Palestine that requires "elaborate handling of transliterations" as Uanfala names it? Deletion discussion for other Arab-region place infoboxes, each resulted in delete:
 * Template:Infobox former Arab villages in Palestine - Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_March_4
 * Template:Infobox_district_of_Iraq - Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_February_14
 * Template:Infobox_Egyptian_Governorate - Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_February_16 - ping:, ,
 * Template:Infobox_Syrian_district - Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_February_16 - ping:, ,
 * Template:Infobox UAE community - Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_28 - ping:
 * 78.54.25.109 (talk) 09:42, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom.--Darwinek (talk) 22:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Replace and delete per nom. JelgavaLV (talk) 14:55, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
 * why is this not closed? Discussions started June 10 are closed, but this one started June 6 is not. 77.11.125.202 (talk) 21:07, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * See WP:NOTCOMPULSORY. It is his choice whether he wants to close this TfD and if he does, at what time he wants to close this. Dreamy Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 21:46, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
 * User:Dreamy Jazz, what was the question? Ooops, yes, it was why the choice by was taken to not close this one. 89.14.159.64 (talk) 11:01, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
 * My statement also covered the why. It is his choice whether he wants to say why he has closed other discussions and not this one. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 11:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Replace and delete - per above. There is nothing special about this wrapper and anything it does the base template can do. --Gonnym (talk) 19:40, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:PE link logo
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The result of the discussion was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:24, 13 June 2019 (UTC) Unused. Useddenim (talk) 15:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * PE link logo
 * Delete Per nom pretty much. The nominator replaced the call to this template to rint last year on Template:Pacific Electric, which I agree with, as it's better to standardise this kind of template to help with maintainability. Dreamy <i style="color:#d01e1e">Jazz</i> 🎷 talk to me &#124; my contributions 20:11, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete I created this page and its function has now been replaced by more standardized processes. It's not being used and should never be needed again. Lexlex (talk) 07:45, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Angola Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:05, 14 June 2019 (UTC) 4th or lower place squad, not notable, and duplicates 2002 FIBA World Championship squads, 2004 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, 2005 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, 2007 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, 2009 FIBA Asia Championship squads, 2012 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads, and 2013 FIBA Africa Clubs Champions Cup squads. for prior discussion see here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, ... Frietjes (talk) 15:13, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Angola Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Brazil Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Canada Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * China Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Lebanon Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * New Zealand Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Puerto Rico Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Turkey Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Venezuela Squad 2002 FIBA World Championship
 * Atlético Petróleos de Luanda Africa Clubs Champions Cup 2004
 * Atlético Petróleos de Luanda Africa Clubs Champions Cup 2005
 * G.D. Interclube Africa Clubs Champions Cup 2007
 * Lebanon Squad 2009 FIBA Asia Championship
 * Philippines Squad 2009 FIBA Asia Championship
 * Korea Squad 2009 FIBA Asia Championship
 * C.R.D. Libolo Africa Clubs Champions Cup 2012
 * Malabo Kings 2013 Africa Clubs Champions Cup
 * Delete all per WP:TCREEP. Teams that do not earn a medal do not need the Wikipedia equivalent of a participation trophy. Also consistent with prior TfDs listed in nom.—Bagumba (talk) 11:22, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
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Substitution of Template:BOTREQ
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 26. Primefac (talk) 00:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * BOTREQ
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Template:Reach Records
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:45, 14 June 2019 (UTC) Per precedent, record label navboxes should not include catalogues or rosters. -- wooden superman  12:09, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Reach Records
 * delete per precedent. Frietjes (talk) 13:34, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete per precedent. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:32, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:CFC US
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:57, 14 June 2019 (UTC) As all contestants are celebrities, this fails WP:PERFNAV -- wooden superman  10:55, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * CFC US
 * delete, over navboxing. Frietjes (talk) 13:35, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Bhad Bhabie
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The result of the discussion was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC) With just three entries, this is not sufficient to provide useful navigation. WP:NENAN. -- wooden superman  09:54, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Bhad Bhabie
 * Delete as premature with hardly any links. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 10:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * delete, the articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Grace VanderWaal
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The result of the discussion was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:23, 13 June 2019 (UTC) With just three entries, this is not sufficient to provide useful navigation WP:NENAN -- wooden superman  09:53, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Grace VanderWaal
 * Delete as premature with hardly any links. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 10:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * delete, the articles are already well-connected. Frietjes (talk) 13:36, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Lil Nas X
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The result of the discussion was delete. —&thinsp;JJMC89&thinsp; (T·C) 05:58, 14 June 2019 (UTC) Not enough entries to provide meaningful navigation. WP:NENAN -- wooden superman  09:49, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Lil Nas X
 * Keep - No doubt this template is only going to grow as he releases more singles and some songs from his EP may also chart. Certain people *cough* need to find more constructive work on WP instead of always trying to get rid of templates.—<b style="color:purple">N</b><b style="color:teal">Ø</b> 09:57, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * See WP:CRYSTAL. If and when more there are more notable releases, then a navbox can be recreated.  Until then, this navbox serves no purpose.  Some people should find more constructive things to do than create useless navboxes.  -- wooden  superman  10:05, 6 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Delete as premature with hardly any links. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 10:39, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
 * delete, premature, but can be recreated when more articles are created. Frietjes (talk) 13:37, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Uw-violence
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 17. Primefac (talk) 01:34, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Latter Day Saint biography
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 June 26. Primefac (talk) 00:01, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
 * Infobox_Latter_Day_Saint_biography
 * Infobox_religious_biography
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