Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 23



Template:Indian Super Cup 2019

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:36, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Unused bracket template and created for an article that has since been redirected. No value in keeping anymore. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:16, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Indian Super Cup 2019
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 12:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not needed. Joseph2302 (talk) 10:07, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Midwest League Ballparks

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:37, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Not used and outdated as all articles are transcluded with the proper league template navbox for the ballparks. The Midwest League became defunct two years ago in 2020. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:27, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Midwest League Ballparks
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 02:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Secretariat of the Pacific Community

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 17:37, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Contains just links to countries and territories that are members of the international organization. But no articles to any Secretariat of the Pacific Community. The articles linking the Secretariat's are already on the Pacific Community article. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:40, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Secretariat of the Pacific Community
 * Delete as unused. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Just a list of countries, not a navbox in any real sense, that links related articles. Nigej (talk) 14:04, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Reno 1868 FC squad
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 17:36, 30 January 2022 (UTC) team is defunct; there is no current squad Joeykai (talk) 16:50, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Reno 1868 FC squad
 * Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 18:21, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as team no longer exists, they can't have a current squad. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 08:50, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 12:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Model article
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The result of the discussion was delete. As mentioned in the discussion, if a particular WikiProject wants to highlight certain articles, they can incorporate that information into their WikiProject banner template (see for example WPUS50). Primefac (talk) 08:20, 2 February 2022 (UTC) This banner is pretty much pointless. Every article should be maintained to the highest standards. It's not like we'll take an article from a FA level to a stub level. Gonnym (talk) 15:04, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Model article
 * Delete Seems to be only used by WikiProject Higher education, where there is a list of "showcase articles" which vaguely matches the usage of this template. Seems to me to be bypassing the FA, GA system, so I can't really see the point. Have the list maybe, but tagging the articles seems unnecessary. Nigej (talk) 15:37, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * The list of showcase articles is different from GA/FA in that it's taking a small but diverse sample of articles that others should look to when writing/improving other articles in certain areas. For instance, at WP:HED we'd ideally like one or two (but only one or two) showcase articles of a college from every major country. Theoretically, all FAs can be a model, but in practice that won't be true until WP:URFA/2020. And while yes, in an ideal world we'd maintain all articles, showcase articles are particularly important and should be prioritized. The banner indicates that there should be additional caution before e.g. making a major change to that article's structure. With all that said, I don't think this is the most important banner, so we could survive without it, but I wish the nominator had checked with the project using it to understand it before jumping to deletion. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I suppose the counter-argument is that part of the purpose of things like TfD is to ensure that projects follow policies and guidelines and don't go there own way. Who's decided that these are "showcase articles"? Is there a system like GA/FA? Can't the information be added to the WikiProject Higher education banner? Also the way it's displayed at the moment might tend to discourage people from making edits. Maybe that's half the point but, if so, I suspect that's not policy. Nigej (talk) 16:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * WikiProjects have wide latitude to form systems within their area of interest, so long as they don't go against wider consensuses formed elsewhere; per WP:WikiProject, WikiProjects often...create lists of tools and templates the project's participants commonly use. If you want to argue that something is against PAG, the burden is on you to point to the PAG it's violating. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 17:17, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A WikiProject can create any list they want, this TfD has nothing to do with that. This specifically is about this specific template which does not create that list, but rather places a banner on top of a talk page which, as I've stated, I believe to be redundant as every article should be written well, so asking for a specific article to be written well serves no additional purpose. Gonnym (talk) 18:23, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * In a utopian world, every article would be maintained well. But in reality, we have far fewer editor resources than articles. Knowing that an article is being used as a model might persuade an editor to e.g. add it to their watchlist when they wouldn't have otherwise done so. I'm not sure that actually happens much, which is why I'm somewhat neutral about this. But I think the case to get rid of it would be a lot more compelling once URFA is complete. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 20:30, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * A possible solution might be to simply delete the last sentence. Nigej (talk) 18:27, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I'd consider that an okay enough outcome. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 20:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * If you delete the last sentence then what's left is a template saying this belongs to a Wikiproject. We already have banners for that. Again, this entire template is either redundant or just pointless. Gonnym (talk) 21:11, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * It does slightly more than that, ie that it "is used as an example of a model article". However it's basically no different to these: Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 16 that have just been deleted. Nigej (talk) 21:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as banner cruft. If specific WikiProjects would like to identify model articles, that should be an addition to their WikiProject banners. --Izno (talk) 00:32, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * delete, if I want to know the model articles for a particular project, I would start by checking the main page of that particular project. there are already plenty of banners at the top of the talk pages.  Frietjes (talk) 13:59, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:GATF selected
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  15:05, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Similar to Templates for discussion/Log/2022 January 16 and Templates for discussion/Log/2021 August 11, these banners signify no real feat and should be removed from the talk pages where they are used. Gonnym (talk) 15:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * GATF selected
 * PISPC
 * SelectedAircraft2
 * Weather-selected
 * Weather-selected-bio
 * Architecture SI
 * Delete all as the nominator of the previous discussion. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * As the author of Template:Weather-selected and Template:Weather-selected-bio, I have no objections to deletion.- Running On Brains (talk) 18:30, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox business school rankings/USmba
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:00, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Unused sub templates of Template:Infobox business school rankings which seemed to be unused since the conversion of the template into a proper infobox in 2018. Gonnym (talk) 11:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Infobox business school rankings/USmba
 * Infobox business school rankings/USundergrad
 * Infobox business school rankings/Worldgeneral
 * Infobox business school rankings/Worldmba
 * Delete all per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:2019–20 MPBL season by team
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:57, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Navbox full of red links, clearly no use for navigation. Nigej (talk) 09:13, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * 2019–20 MPBL season by team
 * Delete per nom. * Pppery * <sub style="color:#800000">it has begun... 02:22, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:MPBLseason
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  06:07, 30 January 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Appears to be an abandoned experiment. The templates in look like they are working fine in relevant articles. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * MPBLseason
 * Delete Indeed, it seems unfinished and certainly unused. 2019–20 MPBL season by team seems to show that there wouldn't be enough content to justify it's existence anyway. Nigej (talk) 09:00, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:MTV Video Music Award for Best Video with a Social Message footer
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  06:07, 30 January 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Does not appear to be needed; MTV Video Music Award for Best Video with a Social Message is working fine. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:33, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * MTV Video Music Award for Best Video with a Social Message footer
 * Delete This template related to a MTV Video Music Award for Best Video with a Social Message 2010s which existed at one time, but is now a redirect to the navbox noted. Nigej (talk) 08:51, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:MGHLink
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  06:07, 30 January 2022 (UTC) No transclusions, no incoming links. The template claims to be used by MGH, but I looked through the code of that template and all of its subpages, and I was unable to find links to this template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * MGHLink
 * MGHSS
 * MGHSSrerGerm
 * Delete Seems they've been superseded by MGH/Link2, MGH/SS, MGH/SSrerGerm. MGHStaatsschriften redirects to MGH/Staatsschriften but these three don't. Nigej (talk) 08:46, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:AWG Cross country skiing
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  04:50, 30 January 2022 (UTC) Only one link, the rest are red links, so this template is not necessary. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 02:41, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * AWG Cross country skiing
 * Delete per nom. All the others at Category:Arctic Winter Games navigational boxes can be deleted too.
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Template:Iraq Youth Football Teams System
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:02, 30 January 2022 (UTC) No transclusions or incoming links. The need for this template appears to be met by the more comprehensive Football in Iraq. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:02, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Iraq Youth Football Teams System
 * Delete Unnecessary sidebar better covered by the navbox noted. Nigej (talk) 08:27, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete - not needed. GiantSnowman 12:49, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete not needed. <b style="color:#0033ab">Joseph</b><b style="color:#000000">2302</b> (talk) 10:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
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Template:International Schools in Kigali, Rwanda
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:02, 30 January 2022 (UTC) No transclusions, incoming links, documentation, or categories. These links are provided by the more comprehensive Kigali, which appears to be preferred. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:59, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
 * International Schools in Kigali, Rwanda
 * Delete per nom. Very little content apart from the school articles themselves, only a bit at Kigali. Nigej (talk) 08:25, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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