Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2022 May 17



Template:HistOfScienceSummary

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:11, 25 May 2022 (UTC) Some sort of proposal made in 2005 but not adopted. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:33, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * HistOfScienceSummary
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep This template is a transclusion used in the encyclopedia's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:History_of_science/Archive_2 history of development of the history of science page. Deleting it without preserving this history rips out the viewpoint of User:mav, who has consistently upheld the encyclopedia's goals (for example, mav named Wikimedia, was the first (volunteer) CFO, etc.) We need to preserve his views. If there were a way to do this I would have no objection. --Ancheta Wis    (talk  &#124; contribs) 01:06, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I have a question: would a subst preserve the look and feel of the (Infobox appearance etc.)? --Ancheta Wis   (talk  &#124; contribs) 01:29, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete per nom. And substituting templates does generally preserve their appearance on the pages that use them. * Pppery * it has begun... 03:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Historical GDPs of India, UK and USA

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC) This is some sort of article content created in template space, proposed in 2011 and not commented on, perhaps because no reason was given for the template's existence. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:32, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Historical GDPs of India, UK and USA
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Template:Historical congressional article

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  01:02, 25 May 2022 (UTC) Used on only two talk pages, and not necessary. I recommend removal from those two pages, followed by deletion of this template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:31, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Historical congressional article
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Template:Historic Scotland listed building number

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Historic Scotland listed building number. ✗ plicit  01:01, 25 May 2022 (UTC) These two templates appear to perform the same functions. Hbnumber is better-documented but unused. I recommend that the best parts of each template be merged into Historic Scotland listed building number. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Historic Scotland listed building number
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 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Deletion is not proposed. A merger is proposed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:40, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Good catch. Merge per nomination. Two templates for the same purpose. Redundant. Just have one. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Hindu calendar dates (table)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Unclear what it would be used for. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:23, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hindu calendar dates (table)
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Template:Hindu calendar date (table)

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Unclear what it would be used for. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hindu calendar date (table)
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Template:Hindu calendar date

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. It appears that Hindu festival date is preferred to this template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hindu calendar date
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Template:Jesse Ventura

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 25. ✗ plicit  00:59, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Jesse_Ventura
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Template:S-line/TER Pays de la Loire left/10

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:59, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/TER Pays de la Loire. Gonnym (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * S-line/TER Pays de la Loire left/10
 * S-line/TER Pays de la Loire left/11
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete — DaxServer (t · m · c) 13:46, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete both per nom. Markussep Talk 20:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:14HighValue

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:59, 25 May 2022 (UTC) Is used to transclude two sentences of text and three references into articles, making it to where those sentences in the article cannot be edited directly and changes made are reflected on all articles. This is not what templates are for. subst and delete. Hog Farm Talk 17:21, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 14HighValue
 * Subst and delete per nom. --Izno (talk) 17:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Subst and delete per nom. Hawkeye7   (discuss)  19:07, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete as above. Parsecboy (talk) 11:55, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete. Prose such as this should be editable in article space. wjematherplease leave a message... 13:47, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Subst and delete — DaxServer (t · m · c) 13:46, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Highlighted anchor

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Created in mid-2020. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:19, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Highlighted anchor
 * It's a very short template. It's not a big deal if it's deleted. Besides, the highlight is not standard (only a part of the height of line is greyed). If there is a need for this, it should be done differently. Dominic Mayers (talk) 17:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --Izno (talk) 17:44, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Hexagram

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Created in 2012. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hexagram
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Template:Diplomatic missions of the United Kingdom

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 25. ✗ plicit  00:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Diplomatic_missions_of_the_United_Kingdom
 * Foreign_relations_of_the_United_Kingdom
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Template:Heart-flags

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  00:54, 25 May 2022 (UTC) No documentation or categories. Created in 2017 by an editor for use in that editor's User page. Creates simple image links. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:13, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Heart-flags
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Template:Hcard-bday-place
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. This functionality is presumably handled by some other template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:12, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hcard-bday-place
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Template:Haykakantomar
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Used only in one editor's sandbox. Documentation and template name are inadequate to explain how this template might be used. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:09, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Haykakantomar
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Template:HasFamily
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Created in 2012. Does not appear to be useful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * HasFamily
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Template:HNK Cibalia squad
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:54, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Roster navbox for second-tier football team. The current roster is at HNK Cibalia and contains only four linked players. Either this should be kept up to date and transcluded in the players' pages, or it should be deleted as not worth using. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:20, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * HNK Cibalia squad
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The club used to be top tier, now it's in the second level and is about to drop a level down this year. It's unlikely that there would be enough notable players at the club for some time now to merit a navbox. <span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'> Timbouctou (<span style='font-family: Georgia, serif; color:#639;'> talk ) 12:14, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related page discussions. GiantSnowman 15:25, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - the fact the club is second tier is absolutely irrelevant; in England there are valid squad templates down to 5th tier at least. What matters is whether there are enough blue links to merit a navbox, and in this case there are not. GiantSnowman 15:28, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:HKbusroutemap
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:51, 24 May 2022 (UTC) One transclusion in an editor's sandbox, not edited since 2017. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * HKbusroutemap
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Template:HB Wales header
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. Created in 2012, does not appear to have been adopted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * HB Wales header
 * HB Wales row
 * not sure what happened, but we ended up using Cadw listed building header and Cadw listed building row which were created the year after I created these two. No point keeping these around so please delete. Multichill (talk) 20:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Grouplist
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions. The functions performed by this template appear to be met by other, more developed templates. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:03, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Grouplist
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Template:Gradother
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions, incoming links, documentation, or categories. Created in 2006. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:27, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Gradother
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Template:Gosh, A. (1964). Indian Archaeology: A review 1961-62. New Dehli: Archaeological survey of India. pp. 50–52
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  14:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC) No transclusions of this single-source citation template with an awkward name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:26, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Gosh, A. (1964). Indian Archaeology: A review 1961-62. New Dehli: Archaeological survey of India. pp. 50–52
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Surname navbox templates, continued
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

As with the group of six similar templates deleted after recent discussion at CfD, these "Surnames associated with the given name xxx" templates show unsourced connections between an apparently unreliably-chosen set of surnames and only contribute clutter to the pages to which they have been added. The various surnames could usefully be listed, with sources, in the pages relating to the individual given names, and each surname page could usefully include a well-sourced link to the given name to which it is related, but these navboxes are not an asset to the encyclopedia. Pam D  10:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Albert-surname
 * Benedict-surname
 * Bernard-surname
 * Blaise-surname
 * Burchard-surname
 * Christian-surname
 * Christopher-surname
 * David-surname
 * Dietmar-surname
 * Ekkehard-surname
 * Friedrich-surname
 * Heinrich-surname
 * Jacob-surname
 * John-surname
 * Konrad-surname
 * Lawrence-surname
 * Mainard-surname
 * Marcus-surname
 * Martin-surname
 * Michael-surname
 * Philip-surname
 * Siegbert-surname
 * Siegfried-surname
 * Simon-surname
 * Steven-surname
 * Thomas-surname
 * Ulrich-surname
 * William-surname


 * Delete. If sourced and reformatted, each box might make a useful list section of an article, but they're not helpful as they stand.  Several of us have attempted to contact the creator without response.  Many linked pages are dabs which don't (and, per MOS:DAB, shouldn't) transclude a navbox.  Others are technically articles but just list people so named; such pages are useful navigation aids but have little or no encyclopedic content to merit a navbox entry. Certes (talk) 13:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. Conceptually useful to show connected surnames but practically the names in the infoboxes are not connected. I took an infobox, researched the histories of the surnames, and they're mostly unrelated. These seem like vaguely similar names wrongly grouped together. RandomBlobby (talk) 13:44, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Prague Metro color
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:48, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Prague Metro. Gonnym (talk) 07:43, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Prague Metro color
 * Prague Metro lines
 * Prague Metro stations
 * S-line/Prague Metro left/C
 * S-line/Prague Metro right/C
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete — DaxServer (t · m · c) 13:46, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:G.Man
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:02, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Not a template but a blank page with documentation. If it weren't speedy declined, I would tag it for speedy. Gonnym (talk) 07:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * G.Man
 * Delete. It was created as a blank template and has no transclusions. I don't know why the speedy was declined. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:14, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Current usaf box
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:48, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused tables. Since they are also very badly designed I am not surprised that they were removed from wherever they were previously used. Gonnym (talk) 07:36, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Current usaf box
 * Modernairforceseries attack
 * Modernairforceseries electronic
 * Modernairforceseries fighter
 * Modernairforceseries misc
 * Modernairforceseries trainer
 * Modernairforceseries transport
 * Modernairforceseries uav
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Template:Country data New Zealand Labour Party pre 1970s
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:01, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused but more importantly, this is not a valid country data template as it's an image for a party. Unclear why an image using text instead of actual text was even used. Gonnym (talk) 07:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Country data New Zealand Labour Party pre 1970s
 * Delete - Isn't used anymore. Kiwichris (talk) 13:55, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:S-line/TER PACA left/21
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:48, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused and supersede by Module:Adjacent stations/TER PACA. Gonnym (talk) 07:25, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete both per nom. Markussep Talk 14:06, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete — DaxServer (t · m · c) 13:46, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:48, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Ouigo. Gonnym (talk) 07:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Copenhagen Metro. Gonnym (talk) 07:18, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Unused and superseded by Module:Adjacent stations/Brussels Metro. Gonnym (talk) 07:15, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 24. ✗ plicit  12:02, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 24. ✗ plicit  12:02, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Campaignbox Operations Against Galveston
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:01, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Redundant to Template:Campaignbox Operations to Blockade the Texas Coast; all three articles are already included in that one and this is a bit of a weird one as it's grouping the two related land battles and an offshore naval action that just happened to occur there. This is a case where the broader template is more useful. Hog Farm Talk 05:16, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Campaignbox Operations Against Galveston


 * Delete per nom. BD2412  T 05:28, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:4Team2ElimBracket-nofinal
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Replaced by. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:38, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 4Team2ElimBracket-nofinal
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:4Team2ElimBracket-noseeds
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  11:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Replaced by. –Aidan721 (talk) 04:22, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
 * 4Team2ElimBracket-noseeds
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Valenzuela City MJAS Zenith roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:47, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Only used on one page. Individual seasons for this team have apparently not been notable enough to have pages created, which is the only other likely use. If this is the case, template should be subst'd and deleted. fuzzy510 (talk) 02:05, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 21:48, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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Template:Air21 Express (2011-2014) roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  03:45, 24 May 2022 (UTC) Used in only one page - with the team defunct, it is highly unlikely that it will have any use elsewhere. Should be subst'd and deleted. fuzzy510 (talk) 01:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2022 May 28. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 16:09, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
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