Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 February 8



Template:Mvec

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:33, 16 February 2023 (UTC) Single-main space use template that, from what I can tell, can be done with vec and math (or mvar if appropriate). Izno (talk) 22:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Mvec
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:50, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * This would need to be converted before substing. Izno (talk) 01:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
 * In that case, delete and replace with either template cited. Since you said single-use I thought it was a subst proposal. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 02:13, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Kercher timeline

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Single-article content with no template parameters. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:28, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Kercher timeline
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Template:Keiyō Line graphical timeline

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 21:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Single-article content with no template parameters. Subst and delete. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:27, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Keiyō Line graphical timeline
 * Delete Subst per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:51, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture

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The result of the discussion was keep. Awards navboxes have a long history of being supported by the community (implicitly if not explicitly), with only a select few having been removed by TFD that I can recall (most lacking a parent article IIRC). If you sincerely believe templates like these shouldn't exist, or even that we should have minimum requirements for this kind of awards navbox, I would recommend an RFC at a place of your choosing, perhaps WP:CLN or WP:VPPRO/WP:VPPOL. Izno (talk) 21:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Entries in this WP:NAVBOX are too loosely related Indagate (talk) 18:45, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture
 * Keep. This is a standard year-by-year navbox showing who or what won a given award that year. We have hundreds of these. – Jonesey95 (talk) 20:30, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. They are all very closely related as evidence by Golden Raspberry Award for Worst Picture. A navbox for film awards is very common and singling one specific award should not be done and is basically WP:IDONTLIKEIT. Gonnym (talk) 20:31, 8 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep How are they loosely related? You can say that about every other award navbox. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:55, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment To elaborate further, the films linked in this navbox only have award templates for Golden Raspberry so disagree they're standard. Also last year's Oscar Best Picture for example, CODA, only have a handful of the most notable, and Golden Raspberry is not particulary notable for any of their awards based on secondary source coverage. Point 3 of WP:NAVBOX says "the articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent" which these do not at all. Point 5 says "if not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the See also sections of the articles", don't think reasonable argument to do that for any of them. My reasoning has nothing to do with not liking it but based on WP:NAVBOX. Arguing that one cannot be deleted without another is WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. A list existing is not a reason for a navbox, WP:NAVBOX says a list can be a substitute for a navbox. Indagate (talk) 22:20, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Shakey's V-League 11th Season Reinforced Open Conference women's division

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:26, 15 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution. Frietjes (talk) 17:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Shakey's V-League 11th Season Reinforced Open Conference women's division
 * Shakey's V-League 11th Season Reinforced Open Conference men's division
 * Shakey's V-League templates
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Template:2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball group A standings

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution, and converting transcluding articles to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball group A standings
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball group B standings
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game A1
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game A11
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game A12
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game A9
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B1
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B10
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B12
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B13
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B14
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B3
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B4
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game B7
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game D1
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game D3
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game D4
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game E1
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game F1
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's basketball game F2
 * 2004 Summer Olympics women's basketball group A standings
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics basketball convenience template navbox
 * 2004 Summer Olympics basketball group standings templates
 * 2004 Summer Olympics basketball game reference templates
 * 2004 Summer Olympics basketball convenience templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:51, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:2004 Summer Olympics men's water polo group A standings

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ (talk) 13:25, 15 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution, and converting transcluding articles to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's water polo group A standings
 * 2004 Summer Olympics men's water polo group B standings
 * 2004 Summer Olympics women's water polo group A standings
 * 2004 Summer Olympics women's water polo group B standings
 * 2004 Summer Olympics water polo convenience template navbox
 * 2004 Summer Olympics water polo group standings templates
 * 2004 Summer Olympics water polo convenience templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:2004 Summer Olympics Angola men's basketball team roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution, and converting transcluding articles to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Angola men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Argentina men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Australia men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics China men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Greece men's basketball team roster
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics Puerto Rico men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Serbia and Montenegro men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Spain men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics United States men's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Australia women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Brazil women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics China women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Czech Republic women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Greece women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Japan women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics New Zealand women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Nigeria women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Russia women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics South Korea women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Spain women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics United States women's basketball team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics basketball team roster templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:2004 Summer Olympics Australia men's water polo team roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution, and converting transcluding articles to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 16:20, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Australia men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics United States men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Croatia men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Egypt men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Germany men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Greece men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Hungary men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Italy men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Kazakhstan men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Russia men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Serbia and Montenegro men's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Spain men's water polo team roster
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics Canada women's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Greece women's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Hungary women's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Kazakhstan women's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics Italy women's water polo team roster
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 * 2004 Summer Olympics United States women's water polo team roster
 * 2004 Summer Olympics water polo team roster templates
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:52, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:2015 Pan American Games Canada women's baseball team roster
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:24, 15 February 2023 (UTC) unused after being merged with the parent article with attribution, and converting transcluding articles to use WP:LST. Frietjes (talk) 16:13, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * 2015 Pan American Games Canada women's baseball team roster
 * 2015 Pan American Games Cuba women's baseball team roster
 * 2015 Pan American Games United States women's baseball team roster
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Template:Intellectualism
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:34, 16 February 2023 (UTC) Ill-defined template with no clear purpose, parent article Intellectualism is an unfocused stub that only cites dictionary entries and two seemingly unrelated subtopics, and template appears to be about multiple different topics that happen to share the same word. &#32;- car chasm (talk) 04:37, 1 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 15:10, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Intellectualism
 * Keep Connects articles on the subject. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:22, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
 * What subject are these articles connecting? They appear (to me) to be grouped by the fact that they all have the same word (Intellect) in them rather than any topical grouping. &#32;- car chasm (talk) 05:26, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * I tend toward delete here per nom. Izno (talk) 04:07, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. The template doesn't appear to be about a single, coherent topic. V27t (talk) 16:38, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * delete, doesn't seem to be a coherent topic per above. Frietjes (talk) 22:07, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Kannada poets in 17th century
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused Kannada poets templates. If these are wanted, they can be added at Kannada poetry or another related page, however the style should really be changed if that happens. Gonnym (talk) 13:15, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Kannada poets in 17th century
 * Kannada poets in 18th century
 * Kannada poets in Western Chalukya Empire
 * Kannada poets in Western Ganga Kingdom
 * Delete The list is better used for categorization or some article list than on template space. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:54, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Lifespan of actors who have played the Doctor
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused Doctor Who template. Gonnym (talk) 13:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Lifespan of actors who have played the Doctor
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Template:Lifespan of each Ukrainian president
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:23, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused and clearly broken template. If creator is still working on it (and requests it), move to their sandbox, otherwise delete. Gonnym (talk) 13:12, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Lifespan of each Ukrainian president
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Template:List of aqueous ions
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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2023 February 15. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:27, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
 * List_of_aqueous_ions
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Template:List of mesons
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused template. Data already at List of mesons. Gonnym (talk) 13:08, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * List of mesons
 * Delete, this is clearly an article draft that has been placed in the wrong namespace. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:PhotoSet
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:21, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused style template. Gonnym (talk) 13:04, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Pre-Marian
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused sidebar with very bad color contrast. Gonnym (talk) 13:03, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Pre-Marian
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Template:ProjectTop
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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork <sub style="font-size: 60%">―Œ <sup style="margin-left:-3ex">(talk) 13:22, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused but also does not seem like a template and more of a promotional page. Gonnym (talk) 13:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:MAX Light Rail RDT
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Outdated and not needed on Max Light Rail. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:07, 1 February 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
 * MAX Light Rail RDT
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 * Delete as unused. Gonnym (talk) 17:46, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Obama family tree
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Substituted this with credit given to the creator on the Family of Barack Obama article. Was single-use and works better as an inline collapsible chart instead of a bloated template. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Family of Michelle Robinson Obama
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:00, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Replaced usages as a navbox with the Michelle Obama navbox I created which does a better job of connecting articles of family members than a tree chart using the navbox parameter with transclusion. Substituted this on the main article on the Obama family and works better as an inline collapsible chart instead of a bloated template. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:24, 31 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:36, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:IDF Enlisted ranks
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Unused. More detailed charts exist on Israel Defense Forces ranks. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:52, 31 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete per nom. Gonnym (talk) 17:43, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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Template:LEN Champions League Performance by clubs
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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 00:01, 15 February 2023 (UTC) Formerly single-use that has been substituted on European Cup, Euroleague and LEN Champions League records and statistics. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:54, 31 January 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:35, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
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 * Delete as now unused. Gonnym (talk) 17:18, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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