Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2023 September 4

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Template:Charlie Chaplin

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Charlie Chaplin. Izno (talk) 18:25, 12 September 2023 (UTC) Propose merging Template:Charlie Chaplin with Template:Charlie Chaplin filmography.
 * Charlie Chaplin
 * Charlie Chaplin filmography

There shouldn't two navboxes for one subject. All the filmography navbox entries can easily be added to the Chaplin navbox with a section for films directed by Chaplin. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:56, 4 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Note that any film listed in those templates that is for an acting role should be removed per WP:FILMNAV. Gonnym (talk) 11:01, 5 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Reverse Merge - As noted above, while he directed many of his films, any which were for acting-only should be pruned due to WP:FILMNAV and MOS:FILMNFI. - jc37 16:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge to Charlie Chaplin per Jc37. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Reverse merge as above, simply adding his filmography into the main navbox. I have removed the actor-only films from Charlie Chaplin filmography so that it should be straightforward to merge. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:52, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Oliver Hardy filmography

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The result of the discussion was delete. Izno (talk) 18:24, 12 September 2023 (UTC) Violates MOS:FILMNFI. These two navboxes entire listing is found on articles for both actors' filmography pages. We don't need navboxes for the entire filmography. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:23, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oliver Hardy filmography
 * Stan Laurel filmography
 * Delete per nom. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Question: Violates MOS:FILMNFI, how? Keep: I understand that your concern is redundancy but, depending on the reader's habits, I would tend to think that bottom page navboxes can be useful even if they duplicate lists of films. I'd rather improve/expand/shorten this kind of templates. Also the filmographies and articles display the titles differently and navigation is also about layout, in my opinion. - My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank)  10:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * See the Ronald Reagan navbox nomination below. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 13:27, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks!@WikiCleanerMan - My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)  14:36, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Filmography of Paramita RL Rana

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Violates MOS:FILMNFI. This is just a list of the actor's filmography which is available on the actor's article. Not a good use of a navbox. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:19, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Filmography of Paramita RL Rana
 * Delete per nom. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Question: Violates MOS:FILMNFI, how? Keep: very standard Navbox. Question 2 Are you planning on discussing deletion of all navboxes for actors? If so please kindly inform the Film project of your plan.- My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank)  10:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Los Payasos de la tele

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC) All links are able to be found on the main article. The navbox outside the title page has four links which isn't enough to navigate with. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:14, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Los Payasos de la tele
 * Delete per nom. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Daniel Day-Lewis

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Violates MOS:FILMNFI. This is just a list of the actor's filmography based on starring and non-starring roles. This does not serve a navigational purpose as the films Lewis has been in can be found linked on his filmography article and his main article. Navboxes are not supposed to duplicate a list that can and does serve a better purpose on article space. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:55, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Daniel Day-Lewis
 * Delete per nom. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Question: Violates MOS:FILMNFI, how? Keep: I understand that your concern is partial redundancy but, depending on the reader's habits, I would tend to think that bottom page navboxes can be useful even if they partially duplicate lists of films. I'd rather improve/expand/shorten this kind of templates.- My, oh my!  (Mushy Yank)  10:16, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Sally Field

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  23:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Three links outside the main article. Not enough for navigation. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 17:47, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Sally Field
 * Delete per nom. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Case-sensitive

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:48, 4 September 2023 (UTC) Unnecessary and obnoxious. Zinnober9 (talk) 15:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Case-sensitive


 * Keep — Okay, I tagged my other one for speedy deletion because you were absolutely correct, but I actually love this one. Just because the template has dimension and a graphic doesn’t make it obnoxious. The graphic is related to the purpose of template (made it myself - please hold your applause, Jonesey95. This doesn’t need to be nominated. Where does it say that a template cannot be more dynamic rather than just flat and boring? Absolutely disagree with this one. I will be casting a vote to keep and hope that others see my point.
 * Carry on with the discussion if you must. I this this one looks great.
 * 4theloveofallthings (talk) 16:07, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Oops you’re not Jonesey95… well it looks like I got the whole template community out for blood. I won’t lie, I am a bit scared… do your worst. *shakes fist* 4theloveofallthings (talk) 16:14, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * It's not personal. Please see WP:TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:16, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Jonesey95
 * Don’t worry I know it’s not. I’m not actually upset. Lol. Thanks for linking info, I will absolutely give it a read. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 16:18, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Jonesey95 Zinnober9
 * I am tagging Template:Case-sensitive with . Believe it or not, I actually learned a lot about making templates during the process of making these monstrosities. I will take that and keep it, and you can send these templates to template hell where they probably belong. Although, I still think the case-sensitive one looks very nice… but that’s just me! 4theloveofallthings (talk) 16:24, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Substitute alert

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by AnomieBOT ⚡  17:48, 4 September 2023 (UTC) Not needed. Much too obnoxious. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:44, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Substitute alert


 * Jonesey95
 * added to the template. Now will someone at least fix Template:Substituted as it is not obnoxious enough for a notice regarding the functionality of a template. 4theloveofallthings (talk) 15:52, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Ronald Reagan filmography

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Frietjes (talk) 14:52, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Lists only acting roles. Goes against MOS:FILMNFI: "WikiProject consensus is against including actor templates" Mika1h (talk) 10:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ronald Reagan filmography
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Mika1h (talk) 11:04, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per MOS:FILM. InfiniteNexus (talk) 15:48, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per MOS:FILM, "WikiProject consensus is against including actor templates since not all actors have substantial appearances in all their films and since multiple actors in a film would overpopulate the bottom of a film article with actor templates regardless of role prominence." Readers can go to Ronald Reagan to find other works, and at most, there could be a "See also" section linking to Ronald Reagan filmography. It does not warrant naming all his films within each film's article. Erik (talk &#124; contrib) (ping me) 18:39, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. lol. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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Template:Collaborative real-time editor softwares

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The result of the discussion was delete. ✗ plicit  12:08, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Only two articles, so not much use for navigation. Fails the WP:NENAN rule of five. InfiniteNexus (talk) 05:11, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Collaborative real-time editor softwares
 * Delete per nomination. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:22, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. SWinxy (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
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