Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Alternative views/Archive 5

RfC on whether Quackwatch is a self-published source
There is a request for comment on whether Quackwatch is a self-published source. This RfC also concerns the application of (WP:BLPSPS) to content from Quackwatch. If you are interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   00:04, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

Climate Feedback and InsideClimate News on accuracy of claims by proponents of climate change denial
There is a noticeboard discussion regarding the use of Climate Feedback and InsideClimate News to describe the accuracy of claims made by proponents of climate change denial. If you are interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   10:49, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion about article "Ufology"
You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Ufology, which is about an article that is within the scope of this WikiProject. &#123;{u&#124; Gtoffoletto  &#125;}  talk 23:05, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory has an RFC
Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RFC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:59, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Alternative Views articles needing expert attention has been nominated for discussion
Category:Alternative Views articles needing expert attention has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Peaceray (talk) 05:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Pages to include/not include
I suggest adding these to Alternative Views: Removing low importance or unassessed articlesfrom project Amousey - they/then pronouns (talk) 14:48, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Pervasive refusal syndrome / Resignation syndrome - proposed child psych disorder - forcible hospitalization of kids
 * Asylum seekers with apathetic refugee children - linked to pervasive refusal syndrome
 * Factitious disorder imposed on another (Munchausen's by proxy)
 * Camel milk (the latest cure for everything)
 * Essential oil (cures everything, allegedly)
 * Pansexuality (can't find alternative views)
 * Chronic fatigue syndrome (established diagnosis) - maybe add the related Controversies page
 * Psychotherapy (the mainstream, rather dull kind, previously had GA status)
 * Black Ribbons (album, page looks static)

Assessments section, updated
Greetings, For this WP at Assessments section, I added progression, pie chart, rainbow; wikilinks "Quality operations" and "Popular pages". JoeNMLC (talk) 02:01, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Question regarding inclusion of Clare W. Graves
Hi folks- I noticed the Alternative Views tag on the talk page for Clare W. Graves, whose article I have been cleaning up (from 1 inline citation to 62!) I'd like to understand the criteria for inclusion.

While Graves influenced a lot of alternative thought (Spiral Dynamics and especially Integral Theory), his own work was straightforward psychology research rooted in experimental data. Even though his work is best known through alternative channels, he is also cited by regular academics. I have added references to a few such citations under Clare W. Graves.

Graves ends up with an Integral Theory box on his page as an influence (through Don Beck) but had nothing to do with Integral during his lifetime.

Does Graves belong in this project? If so is there anything that should be added to the page regarding it? If not, is it OK for me to remove the box from the talk page?

Thanks! Ixat totep (talk) 23:26, 3 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Hi Ixat! The article says he was the originator of the "Emergent Cyclical Levels of Existence Theory".  If his theory lacks widespread acceptance, then it is an alternative view, even if his work is rooted in experimental data and also cited by regular academics.  In that case, I think Graves belongs in this project.  Nothing jumps out at me that should be added.  Nice work on the article! Tim Smith (talk) 03:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Thanks, Tim! That makes sense, thanks for the explanation.  I have since split the theory out into its own page (currently emergent cyclical theory but it might get switched to "Graves's emergent cyclical levels of existence". (There's no official name and some question as to whether a short but generic-sounding name or a longer but more clear one is is better.)  I've also split a Spiral Dynamics page out of Don Beck's page.  In case you want to add those two new pages to the project.  I'm continuing to work on all four pages. --Ixat totep (talk) 23:54, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

RfC
Members of this WikiProject may be interested in [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Falsification_of_history#RfC:_Should_this_template_include_a_list_of_names? this RfC]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:14, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

Talk:Vanessa Beeley > Tweet inclusion disagreement
If you have an opinion, please share. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

Mary Ann Mansigh
del discussion Female programme writer, co-creator of moldyn method. Please we all need to come out for this one, especially if you're in the computational community in phy sci. will post on sub- science wp's forums as well. Stay strong. Ema--or (talk) 17:48, 11 February 2021 (UTC) It is important to show some love, while she's still here (assuming must be, no obit). Shake 'n bake, now you see me, now you don't. Ema--or (talk) 19:57, 11 February 2021 (UTC)

Sorry for my non-NPOV canvas! Ema--or (talk) 21:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Hi, just an issue to discuss. Just wanted to name an issue, which I asked for consultation on, but was not able to get any thing on before the end of discussion. There is the issue of my inconsistencies on Mansigh btw main space and other-space, particularly afd- and Wp project-space, although it is particularly a matter for subjective interpretation. I’d like to end by once again apologising for any trouble and thanking anyone who offered any opinion or contribution to the chat, as well as for the space and audience in a place such as this. Bye, ‘til next time. Ema--or (talk) 18:29, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Noticeboard discussion on reliability of McGill University's Office for Science and Society
There is a noticeboard discussion on the reliability of McGill University's Office for Science and Society in the context of an article about JP Sears. If you are interested, please participate at. —  Newslinger  talk   08:09, 21 February 2021 (UTC)

Requested move discussion in progress
An editor has requested that Climate change denial be moved to a different name. Please join the discussion at. Thank you. --Sangdeboeuf (talk) 12:00, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Noticeboard discussion on "Neither qi nor meridians exist"
This Wikiproject may be interested in the noticeboard discussion about the statement "Neither qi nor meridians exist." in the Shiatsu article: Fringe_theories/Noticeboard. MarshallKe (talk) 00:30, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Satanic ritual abuse
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Satanic ritual abuse that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Shibboleth ink (♔ ♕) 05:27, 17 August 2021 (UTC)