Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sexology and sexuality/Archive 2

Merging sex position articles
I have recently opened discussions for the merging of leapfrog sex position into doggy style and side entry missionary position as well as butterfly sex position into missionary position. Please comment on the respective talk pages. --Strait 16:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Naming of articles, etc.
I frequently find myself in arguments about the naming of sex positions. Generally someone wants to give a position a name I have never heard and use it as though it is the name for that position, even though they cannot provide any evidence that it is generally accepted. (Often the highly dubious "but it has a lot of google hits" defense is used at this point...)

And now there is a huge debate going on about whether or not "handjob" and "fingering" are appropriate words for Wikipedia or whether we ought to say "manual genital stimulation" instead (yuck).

Would anyone be interested in hashing out a guideline on naming conventions in sexuality/sexuality articles which clarifies how Naming conventions applies to them? --Strait 16:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd be glad to work with you on that. I am sure we can get a few others involved as it is developed. Atom 18:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Ok: WikiProject_Sexology_and_sexuality/WIP-naming-guidelines --Strait 21:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Userbox
We need a userbox. I think I can get someone to help...NinaOdell | Talk 16:37, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

"Not-censored" box
I've added the following box to the top of a few articles' talk pages, where (a) no such notice had already been posted and (b) the topic either did or seemed likely to draw requests for censorship. If this would be helpful elsewhere, please use or adapt where you deem it suitable. -- Ben 19:14, 15 January 2007 (UTC) I have now turned the above box into Template:Notcensored.

Also, someone else had created a longer block of text, with a stop-sign, that specifically fits (and is on) the talk pages of articles with images of nudity or sexual anatomy. I've adapted this into Template:Notcensored2, with two minor changes from the original text: 1) removed a blank line from top, 2) used BASEPAGENAME to provide the article name automagically, so that doesn't have to be typed in every time.

It's probably better to "subst" these -- { {subst:notcensored}} or {  {subst:notcensored2}} -- rather than make the poor computers transclude them each load. That also reduces the risk of being affected by template vandalism. -- Ben 10:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Article classes
I am quickly assigning quality classes to sexuality articles. These are not meant to be the final word, so please change and/or discuss if necessary. --Strait 18:12, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Go for it. I have had that on my list for a long time. Based on past experience, I doubt your classification will be substantially different than my own. Atom 18:43, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

BDSM stubs
I have taken a little time to try and attack some of the stubs floating around. I rewrote Fire play and included a lot of content but it probably needs a bit more to it. Same for Vi Johnson's wiki entry. --User:Rose Ashe 16:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Not sure if this is the correct WikiProject, but this is closest
Courtship requires a rewrite and I thought that this project would be the best place to get it started. x42bn6 Talk 13:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Deletion sorting board
I added a "deletion discussion" section to the project page, with a link to the deletion sorting board at WikiProject Deletion sorting/Sexuality and gender. The board is shared by several WikiProjects, and indeed anyone can use it. If you see any sexuality or gender related articles on the WP:AFD lists, please add them. Other xFD's and WP:DRV can be listed there too. — coe l acan — 18:20, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking for help
Hi there,

Looking to find a home for Category:Intersexuality and wondering if it was within the scope of your project. Of particular note, although some of the sub-articles are covered by WP:Medical Genetics, articles such as Intersexuality are not.

Cheers, Lwollert 06:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Looking for BDSM editors on :en
Hi my nick is Nemissimo, I'm a editor specialized on political sciences and BDSM while being an admin on the :de (German language) Wikipedia project. I'm looking for editors who are working on BDSM in order to cooperate interwiki and create an productive network. Anyone interested in this topic is highly welcomes to contact me on my :en or German userpage. --Nemissimo II 20:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Top and bottom in sex and BDSM
... needs work. See the talk page for a TODO list.

It's a merger of 9 earlier pages; I've done a fair amount to make it work well, but the BDSM part will need significant editing to be smooth. It also needs expansion; see the TODO list again for that.

Thanks. -- Sai Emrys  ¿?   ✍  19:09, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

A long standing debate over adolescent sexuality.
See Talk:adolescent sexuality for information on the proposal. It would create a branch off article containing solely views on the subject and hopefully get rid of the POV currently in the articles which are supposed to say what adolescent sexuality is. Not is it good or bad. In my opinion I say let the POV wars take place in an article ABOUT POV. not elsewhere. Tell us what you think at the above link.

This debate has been going on for months. Spanning text being copied into a dozen articles, numerous edit wars. And almost no blocks... Nateland 02:23, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Christian Perspectives on Human Sexuality
I started to work on this article because I came across it by chance early in my pediatric days. I'm not really interested in continuing with it. If no one at the WikiProject Christianity or WikiProject Sexuality is interested in working with it, I will slate it for deletion. Fixer1234 04:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Project Banner
I have recently created a banner for WikiProject Biology which has assessment parameters. I notice that your existing banner does not. Given the amount of overlap in the biology sector, and the concerns expressed elsewhere about the proliferation of project banners, I was wondering whether the members of this project would be interested in perhaps utilizing the Biology banner, with a "drop down tab" for this project, perhaps similar to the WPMILHIST banner. Doing so would permit for individual assessment for each project, as that is something the Military History banner does, while at the same time reducing the amount of banner "clutter" on talk pages. If you would be interested in such an arrangement, please let me know and I will work to revise the Biology banner to include the "drop-down" tab and make the other arrangements required for your project, as well as theirs, to have assessment data available. Thank you. John Carter 21:04, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Update and request for advice.
Hello all. I would like a some advice on the article glans. When it first came to my attention, it was listed by this group as being a stub of "high" importance. Over the last month, I have spent considerable time expanding the article into a comparative biologically-oriented (rather than completely anthropocentric) article, with references. Although I have sought input on the changes, few were forthcoming. Recently, an individual who apparently vehemently disagrees with my input reverted the article back to the original stub. Thus, I have sought advice from other specific editors, and am seeking advice here. Perhaps the members of this group could provide input on the changes made and recent revert as well, as the exchanges on the talk:glans page. It would be most appreciated. As the article is also relevant to the Biology and Anatomy projects, I will be posting this request to those projects as well. Thanks, and look forward to hearing from you. Esseh 14:11, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Omorashi
If anyone interested in helping me improve the omorashi page, they are welcome to jump right in. Fsecret 00:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

Troll (gay) new article
Greetings, I was wikilinking some words in the Polari article and ended up creating Troll (gay) and wanted to bring it to y'all's attention. It need work but it's a good read if nothing else. Benjiboi 14:41, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this project active?
I see that key pieces of this project such as human sexuality and Portal:Sexuality are in shambles. Is anyone here?-Wafulz 02:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm here, but too busy to do much... my next contribution will probably be an article on erotic enemas, if I ever find the time to write it...  Bushytails 17:54, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Proposed WikiProject
A WikiProject for pregnancy and childbirth related articles has been proposed. For more information and to express interest, please visit WikiProject_Council/Proposals. Thanks! --Ginkgo100talk 16:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Fl1942 prodding of articles
is prodding a lot of articles that are about women's organisations or that are critical of (child) prostitution, women trafficking and rape (National Clearinghouse on Marital and Date Rape, Durbar Mahila Samanwaya Committee, All Bengal Women's Union, Tulasa, and others). Many of these articles are notable, so I have deprodded them. He has taken revenge on me by reverting all my edits (see this edit on Alice Bailey). Can someone else keep a watch on future proddings. --Voidocore 15:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Its good to hear that you are working to improve the Wikipedia. Please don't you or anyone else take opposing edits personally: most editors are acting in good faith to also improve ( as they see it ) the Wikipedia. Sexuality related articles are all controversial and most people think there's a bit too much porn-star trivia floating around. I found 3 references from reputable sources to back up facts in the Durbar Mahila Samanwaya Committee article and removed the non-notability tag. Adding references is the best way to secure an article against attack. --Simon Speed 13:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Scope
The one thing this project fails to clarify is whether its scope is limited to humans or not. I presume it is, but it doesn't really make it clear whether animal sexuality would be included or not.

Edit: Ah, it says on the banner. I'll add this to the scope section. Richard001 08:12, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Pregnancy, POV, and templates
see talk:pregnancy and Requested_templates. Basically, it's come to my attention that it's offensive to transmen and so forth to refer to a pregnant person as a woman or "she", but for the sake of sanity, we have to pick a pronoun (can you imagine picking up a book on pregnancy where it says "When one becomes pregnant, one will feel..." or "he or she may experience"? Ick. Messy). Anyway, we're looking for input, and it falls under this wikiproject; I'll also inquire at the LGBT wikiproject, since it's their domain as well. And if someone can make a template, that'd be nice. Kuronue | Talk 13:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Humans only?
Is a topic like Baculum in the scope of this Wikiproject? --mordicai. 20:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:BDSM/Translation
I'm the main author of the featured :de article BDSM. Following the discussion related to the structural problems in this field I continued the translation of the article under Talk:BDSM/Translation. The translation was discussed on the en talk page and started about a year ago. Later it stalled. Some parts are already included in the main en article (e.g. textfragments, movies, most of the images). I guess it was simply to much for 2 persons...

I'm sure that the translation will help to organize this field of topics and might help to evaluate the the importace of some "fan-topics" which are appearing more frequently during the last months. Being a member of :de Project Sexology and sexuality (Redaktion Sexualität) and :de admin I only know to well how difficult it can be to sort out the possible nonsense appearing on this topic.

The :de version of the article was designed in part closely following the :en articles discussion on relevance and structure and therefore has solved 90% of the topics on the article's talk page and archive. While its legal chapters are basically eurocentristic (UK, Austria, Switzerland and Germany) it would take only minor efforts to include US backgrounds once it is translated. The historical and most of the other chapters (about 90%) are "internationalized". Both articles' content is highly interchangeable. While the German one features scientific resources the English one has the Chance to structure a rich field of surrounding articles.

We started translating about a year ago and stopped because progress slowed down.

A request with translations was unsuccessful and I would like to ask you guys if any of you are interested in giving a hand. ;-) I can make my way in English, but as soon as the result needs to be raised to an quasi-scientific level I definitely need native speakers helping to proofread and raise the language level. Is anyone interested in cooperating in this project? I guess this could be good fun and there is a realistic chance to improve the entire field related to this article. Kind Regards. --Nemissimo 21:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I've just finished the translation. It would be great if someone could start proofreading it. After the proofreading I will integrate the minor aspects from the old article whitch are not already included and move it.--Nemissimo 15:56, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The article has been copy edited by native speakers and is nearly ready to be moved.--Nemissimo 15:00, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

sexless marriage - afd?
the [sexless marriage] article appears to have little to say that couldn't be included as a subset of marriage or asexuality. I'm tempted to nominate it for deletion, but note that this project has classified it as mid level importance. could someone please clarify why it is important, so the article can reflect the importance? thanks. WotherspoonSmith 09:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Userbox
Project userbox is necessary. Is it already available? Lara_bran 07:04, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

"sexual behaviour" Vs "sexuality"
We have 2 articles for humans: human sexual behaviour and human sexuality. I think former should be merged to later. As for animals only Animal Sexual Behaviour, and "animal sexuality" redirects to this. I think this "sexual behaviour" is kind of Original research, since such title is not found anywhere. Also terms that need to be considered include sexuality and sexology. Thanks. Lara_bran 10:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Student erotica
Could I get some support over at the erotica article to keep the section on student erotica? Thanks! Student erotica 04:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:CANVASS. Thanks! Gscshoyru 05:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Before anyone gets involved in this edit war, please consider the talk page conversation. Also, edit warrior Student erotica is an single-purpose account, and possibly a sock puppet of User:South Philly.
 * The main issue editors have with including South Philly's material is student erotica is too small and too recent a genre to add to a broad article like Erotica, especially with details of known publications that User:South Philly/User:Student erotica wished to add &mdash; basicly South Philly is reporting on a recent trend (and not apparently a large one) in American college zines. User:Student erotica has been offered alternatives, including creating a stub that would be linked from See also in the Erotica article. But that editor continues edit warring and making spurious accusations.
 * Histories of the edit war itself can be found on the sock puppet report and the |here 3RR report. / edg ☺ ★ 05:07, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Banned User Accounts
These users seems to have been banned from Wikipedia. Think we should move them to the inactive/expelled list?


 * Vampire Warrior


 * Lara bran

Laytonsmith14 (talk) 09:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I just went ahead and did it. Aleta   (Sing)  19:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)