Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Somerset/Archive 7

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages
Greetings Members!

This is a one-time-only message to inform you about a technical proposal to revive your Popular Pages list in the 2016 Community Wishlist Survey that I think you may be interested in reviewing and perhaps even voting for:


 * Fix and improve Mr.Z-bot's popular pages report

If the above proposal gets in the Top 10 based on the votes, there is a high likelihood of this bot being restored so your project will again see monthly updates of popular pages.

Further, there are over 260 proposals in all to review and vote for, across many aspects of wikis.

Thank you for your consideration. Please note that voting for proposals continues through December 12, 2016.

Best regards, — Delivered: 18:08, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

West of England Combined Authority & West of England mayoral election, 2017
Two newish articles of relevance to this wikiproject have been created at West of England Combined Authority and West of England mayoral election, 2017. As more information becomes available the articles will need updating (possibly including articles for the candidates which don't yet have one). Any help appreciated.&mdash; Rod talk 20:13, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

South Stoke (Packhorse Inn)
I'm seeking an amendment to the text on the page for South Stoke, which references the Packhorse Inn.

The Packhorse has recently been brought under community ownership [1]and is in the process of being refurbished prior to reopening as a pub. Details on the community share scheme and the crowdfunding campaign are available on the Packhorse's website [2].

[1] http://www.bathchronicle.co.uk/south-stoke-community-set-to-buy-the-packhorse-pub-after-685-000-raised/story-29737015-detail/story.html [2] https://www.packhorsebath.co.uk

Packhorse Comms Team 2A02:C7D:B030:2A00:110F:BDD9:7134:B926 (talk) 15:28, 27 February 2017 (UTC)


 * I have edited the Southstoke article to include the first part of your suggested text, however I think the "advert" for the crowdfunding is probably unencyclopedic. You may wish to look at Packhorse Inn which I recently created about the pub which includes a lot more detail. &mdash; Rod talk 18:19, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Popular pages report
We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, will post at /Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of. We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:
 * The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
 * The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
 * The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to for his original, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:16, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

James Heappey
The sitting Conservative MP, who is standing for re-election, has been involved in a controversy relating to comments he made at a school during a discussion on Scotland. The affair has been reported in several broadsheets, and has drawn in two party leaders.

The article's coverage of the incident has been repeatedly removed by single-purpose accounts and IPs, and at my request the page is now semi-protected for 2 weeks.

However, it is not being watched by many editors. Please can some members of this project keep an eye on it? -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:22, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Happy 10th birthday to WikiProject Somerset
Happy birthday to WikiProject Somerset which was created 10 years ago yesterday. I think quite a lot has been done in the last 10 years as shown by the table below.

There is still quite a lot to do to improve the articles and lists. In addition there are issues with the articles on the project cleanup list and

What would people like the project to achieve in the next 10 years?&mdash; Rod talk 17:44, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Online support for Stroud edit-a-thon?
Hello! I'm not entirely sure I'm posting in the right place, but another Wikipedian mentioned that Somerset had a great, active group of editors and suggested I reach out on your project page. I'm co-hosting an edit-a-thon in Stroud, Gloucestershire tomorrow, and we could use a bit more support and advice about the nuances of Wikipedia as questions arise. Will any of you be online tomorrow and happy to answer questions? We would also be interested in talking to one of you about the Somerset project, perhaps via video chat. Thanks for considering these last-minute requests. Dma132 (talk) 20:40, 2 March 2018 (UTC) With
 * I've been part of wikiproject Somerset for more than 10 years. I could probably be online tomorrow (Sat) as the snow is limiting my ability to go anywhere else. Can you suggest times? What sort of thing do you need?&mdash; Rod talk 20:42, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Merger of Taunton Deane and West Somerset
I note from today's BBC news and Somerset County Gazette that the councils voted for the proposed merger of Taunton Deane and West Somerset, although this still has to receive central government (Sajid Javid) approval (likely to be given in my opinion). What should be on the two articles now to reflect this and when should the new article about Somerset West and Taunton Council be created? I have put this on Talk:Taunton Deane - probably best to comment there to keep this discussion in one place.&mdash; Rod talk 20:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject
The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template Transclude lead excerpt.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.

Background
On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you. &mdash; The Transhumanist  07:56, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

Bristol meetup
I am organising a meetup in Bristol for this summer - provisionally Saturday 1 September 2018, and you are invited (everyone is welcome). For details see Meetup/Bristol/3 to join the discussion, including expressing preferences about dates and venues, see the talk page at m:Talk:Meetup/Bristol/3. Thryduulf (talk) 18:38, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposed changes to guidelines on UK counties
If anyone is interested, there is a discussion taking place here. All comments are welcome. DDStretch   (talk)  09:33, 25 October 2018 (UTC)

A new newsletter directory is out!
A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
 * – Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.

We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon
Hi. The The Great Britain/Ireland Destubathon is planned for March 2020, a contest/editathon to eliminate as many stubs as possible from all 134 counties. Amazon vouchers/book prizes are planned for most articles destubbed from England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland and Northern Ireland and whoever destubs articles from the most counties out of the 134. Sign up on page if interested in participating, we have over 44,000 stubs! A good opportunity to improve stubs for your area!♦ Dr. Blofeld  13:09, 4 February 2020 (UTC)

FAR notice
I have nominated Chew Valley for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Bacon 05:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Old districts
I've been going around tweaking articles with West Somerset and Taunton Deane districts on them. But unsure what is the best practice with deleting or having the templates and categories renamed. Any advice on this is much appreciated. The Equalizer (talk) 05:56, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I created Somerset West and Taunton some time ago but I'm sure there are lots of other mentions & templates which need updating. I'm not sure there is any specific best practice I would say just update them when you come across them.&mdash; Rod talk 08:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

FAR notice
I have nominated Chew Valley Lake for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Bacon 02:10, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Parishes project
I have started a project for missing civil parishes at User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes. The missing parishes in Somerset are:


 * Dunkerton and Tunley
 * Exmoor (parish), redirect exists at Exmoor (civil parish)
 * South Cadbury and Sutton Montis
 * Temple Cloud with Cameley
 * The Charltons

And these exists as a redirect only but should have separate articles: A total of 12, see User:Crouch, Swale/Missing parishes (3).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 22:02, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Abbas and Templecombe
 * Pill and Easton-in-Gordano
 * Staplegrove
 * Tatworth and Forton
 * West and Middle Chinnock
 * West Crewkerne
 * Withypool and Hawkridge
 * These all seem to be recently merged civil parishes with little actual history, so almost no reliable sources. Some of them might struggle to be notable, and for now I should say a suitable redirect will do the trick. Moonraker (talk) 04:48, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * They all seem to have distinct names like Tidcombe and Fosbury and with a recent merge there is a clear point to start coverage of an article from similar to the districts Nuneaton and Bedworth (1974) and Somerset West and Taunton (2019) and the parish of Nedging-with-Naughton (1935).  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)


 * Pinging participants to get more input .  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 20:35, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Pinging the 2nd half .  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 19:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Infobox settlement parameter changes
As you change settlement articles (there are lots of them!) to reflect the new unitary council governance structure, don't forget to change the following two parameters in the infobox. Then you'll need to tweak any mention of the district in the lead section, and mentions of the district and county councils in the governance section. 10mmsocket (talk) 10:30, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * "shire_district" is replaced by "unitary_england" - and the agrument changes to " Somerset Council " stays the same
 * "shire_county" is replaced by "lieutenancy_england" - however the agrument " Somerset " stays the same

Is it time for an article name & category structure re-think?
Now that Somerset's county council and [awful] district councils have been consigned to the dustbin of history, is it perhaps time to think about the article names and structure of some of the articles that fall within this project? A prime example would be Category:Scheduled monuments in Somerset, which contains sub-categories such as Category:Scheduled monuments in Sedgemoor, Category:Scheduled monuments in Taunton Dene, etc.; and corresponding list articles such as List of scheduled monuments in Sedgemoor. I use these as an example, but there's lots of articles and categories such as listed buildings, people and settlements. I know it has only been two days, but [hopefully] these districts will eventually fade into distant memories and I would therefore question the wisdom of keeping multiple articles and categories aligned to them. Personally I'm in favour of a re-think, although I recognise that list articles could get huge if four or five former districts are concatenated into just one. Thoughts? 10mmsocket (talk) 08:52, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I would agree that there are many articles which need rewording in the light of the new unitary council, although I would argue for keeping historical mentions of the districts - eg X is a village in Somerset which used to be part of the Y district council.. or similar. In relation to the categories and lists (eg sub lists of Grade I listed buildings in Somerset) some of them are very large (because they are/were comprehensive) and already have problems with the number of transcluded templates affecting the display of references etc as they start to bump into the page size limits. I am not sure about the best way to handle these but in the short term the lead paragraphs of all of these could be changed to explain that the districts no longer exist.&mdash; Rod talk 09:11, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes these categories should be merged. I'd go a step further to state that they probably shouldn't have been created. As I said here back in 2021 that its probably generally not a good idea to subdivide by district. Most topics should be in "X in ceremonial county" and "X district" (without subdivision). We could create Category:Somerset (district) for the unitary district but most things should be in that category directly rather than "X in Somerset (district)". Along those lines I'd also support merging most of the subcategories of Category:North Somerset and Category:Bath and North East Somerset.  Crouch, Swale  ( talk ) 16:20, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
 * What a great idea. 10mmsocket (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2023 (UTC)

FAR for Somerset
I have nominated Somerset for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 02:57, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

Notification of merger discussion: Somerset Council and Somerset County Council
There is a merge discussion taking place at Talk:Somerset Council about whether to merge Somerset Council into Somerset County Council, which participants here may be interested in. A.D.Hope (talk) 11:05, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Frome Town Hall
Hi - It would be great if someone could take a photo of Frome Town Hall and upload it to wikimedia commons. Many thanks, Dormskirk (talk) 08:16, 18 September 2023 (UTC)