Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Transport/Archive 2

Congestion pricing
Please help improve the section about the effects of congestion pricing and its long term effects. Congpric (talk) 16:44, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Template:Infobox building now has a public transit access parameter
After years and years of people proposing it basically uncontested on the talk page but it never getting actioned, we've finally added public_transit to Infobox building. There are 22,000 transclusions, so there's plenty of work for any of you who want to start using it; feel free to pick your favorite buildings and add the information for them. Cheers, &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 06:07, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Requested article: Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on transportation infrastructure
See the listing at WikiProject COVID-19/Missing topics. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:33, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

Article Trafic Light - colour names
The article "traffic lights" uses mostly the term orange when refering to the third colour usually between green and red. Even if the colour used appears darker or more reddish than pure yellow, in most cases amber would be the better reference to the actual colour. But then formally speaking, even this is at least questionable and sometimes explicitly wrong. For example, German Traffic rules explicity refer to it as Yellow. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.134.162.73 (talk) 10:02, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Walkit.com - dead site and app - OK to edit?
Please see our article Walkit.com and have a look at my query at Talk:Walkit.com. Briefly, I think it is gone - the site is gone, the app is dead etc. There isn't really an RS saying so explicitly (though I did find a listing for the company saying it was defunct) but there is circumstantial evidence aplenty, and there is as far as I can see no evidence that it does still exist. We also have WP:BLUE. Can't I just edit it to state what seems obvious? I am unsure of the rules here. If Project people here have a view do please join me at Talk:Walkit.com to add your 2p or 2c worth! Thanks and best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 10:13, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
 * , this looks like an WP:IAR situation. I'd add the information, but also add a cn tag to indicate that it should be sourced if a source can be found.
 * If you've searched thoroughly and there really appear to be no sources indicating that the site has gone offline, that adds to the notability concerns that I see the page is already tagged with. You may want to consider nominating it for deletion. &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 04:29, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much,, for the helpful reply. I will give it a while in case anyone else wants to chip in, then proceed along those lines. Afair the notability tag is quite old and I think it subsequently won a couple of awards/lists and stuff, so I will probably aim to be content with updating it and leaving it. I am probably guilty of applying the Idiot's Test of well I've heard of it so it must be notable! Anyway, I won't do anything in a hurry – the Internet will probably survive a day or two more of this being unedited! Thanks again and all good wishes DBaK (talk) 08:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much,, for the helpful reply. I will give it a while in case anyone else wants to chip in, then proceed along those lines. Afair the notability tag is quite old and I think it subsequently won a couple of awards/lists and stuff, so I will probably aim to be content with updating it and leaving it. I am probably guilty of applying the Idiot's Test of well I've heard of it so it must be notable! Anyway, I won't do anything in a hurry – the Internet will probably survive a day or two more of this being unedited! Thanks again and all good wishes DBaK (talk) 08:20, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

I've now updated it to reflect what can currently be seen. Best wishes to all DBaK (talk) 21:58, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

A class criteria MfD
Hi all, I have noticed that you have a pro forma A-class review instructions page. It appears never to have been used and I don't expect it will be used, so I've nominated it for deletion as I don't think it is particularly helpful to your project. It's very similar to some other A class review instructions around so I am guessing it was created without much specific thought. I have done this without prejudice and 100% respect if there are variations in opinion here :). The MfD is here: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Transport/Peer review/A-Class review instructions. Please ping me if you want me to comment. --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:33, 14 November 2020 (UTC)

Electric road
Please help improve electric road and restore by an editor that was blocked. CrackMcCrackhead (talk) 10:47, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Requested quality assessment
Hi,

Can someone please review and rate this article, Container chassis (talk)? Thanks. Cartle  R255  17:27, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Informal request for comment
Input from this WikiProject is requested at. davidwr/ (talk)/(contribs)  13:46, 18 January 2021 (UTC)

Electric vehicle related topics
Hi WikiProject Transport members - was wondering if anyone had thoughts on the discussion being held at Talk:Battery electric vehicle - specifically the overlap between Electric vehicle, Plug-in electric vehicle, Battery electric vehicle, Electric car, as well as the various related ".. in " articles? -- Chuq (talk) 12:30, 24 January 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Chennai Metropolitan Bus Routes
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Chennai Metropolitan Bus Routes. Walrus Ji (talk) 08:51, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

British bus operators
I am messaging as quite a few smaller public bus operators have been nominated recently for AFD based on GNG. I am proposing that a sng is set up for public transport at the village pump.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 15:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Commuter coaches to London
I have raised a requested article for the above after a discussion at AFD. Requested articles/Other Davidstewartharvey (talk) 08:23, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

Hong Kong Roads
Hi, I've been looking at the unsourced articles lists, and I've found a huge pile of ones about Hong Kong: not piddly little side-streets, but the major roads on the island. In my heart-of-hearts, they're notable, so I feel like making a concerted effort to 'prove' it by adding sources. But... Roads bring up so much other noise by regular search methods. Is there a general guide for finding RSs for roads? Is there a better way to search that cuts down on slogging through addresses and travel guides and other such unhelpful hits? Cheers, Estheim (talk) 05:13, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Standard for semi-combined or coincident stations in different networks
Toronto has several different public transit networks that are sort of integrated, but not entirely. One great example in Toronto's Union Station, which is actually three stations:
 * Union Station Bus Terminal
 * Union Station Rail Terminal
 * Union Station Rapid Transit Terminal

Another is Exhibition GO Station and Exhibition Loop, the former is for rail transit and is operated by GO Transit/Metrolinx, and the latter is for rapid transit and is operated by the TTC. When the Ontario Line is constructed, a TTC station would join the Exhibition GO Station. Is there a standard for when articles for coincident and shared named stations should be merged or kept separate? From a certain perspective, these are just different platforms in the same station, serving different transportation modes. Many thanks! TimeEngineer (talk) 17:09, 25 May 2021 (UTC)

Article missing on safe streets movement
Although we have Vision Zero, we seem to be missing an article on the safe streets movement/pedestrian activism more generally. Category:Pedestrian activism has a redlinked main article, and I only just created Safe streets movement as a redirect to Road traffic safety, which is not an ideal fit. Anyone want to help build this area? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 10:22, 9 January 2021 (UTC)


 * It looks like Traffic violence is also a redlink. Anyone want to find a target to redirect it to or write a page for it? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 07:55, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Proposed merge
It has been proposed that Roadable aircraft be merged into Flying car. You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Flying car/Archive 1. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 19:21, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

Dispute at Two-stroke diesel engine
An editor has just reverted cited content, apparently on the grounds that it is not the aspect they are personally interested in. More eyes/comments would be welcome at Talk:Two-stroke diesel engine. &mdash; Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 18:12, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

Bay Area Rapid Transit
Bay Area Rapid Transit, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Aircorn (talk) 10:11, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:New York City Subway
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:New York City Subway that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibboleth ink  (♔ ♕) 13:05, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

USCG Captains License - REFLIST errors
This page: United States Coast Guard Charter Boat Captain's License https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=United_States_Coast_Guard_Charter_Boat_Captain%27s_license

I'd like to offer to edit the Reflist but don't know how. 1) some Reflist links go to specific training schools rather than list of all approved schools. 2) some Reflist links are invalid ( "Charter Boat Captain Information") = 404. Should be updated to current page: https://www.dco.uscg.mil/nmc/charter_boat_captain/

Glad to help. Guidance please?

--Sailraysail (talk) 16:58, 20 November 2021 (UTC)SailRaySail

"Christmas parade car crash" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Christmas parade car crash. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 23 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. 65.92.246.43 (talk) 22:28, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

FAR for San Francisco
I have nominated San Francisco for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  04:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Crime associated with public transit
Do we have an article about crime in the immediate vicinity of transit stops? Not on the transit, but (for example) the fact or perception that criminals could use transit to reach more-distant target areas that previously had low crime? I know anecdotally when I've lived in places where transit projects are proposed, sometimes affluent residential or shopping areas are opposed to stops because "it brings in the criminals". DMacks (talk) 18:49, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Congestion pricing
Congestion pricing has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:03, 6 January 2022 (UTC)


 * Please could someone close this. Chidgk1 (talk) 08:42, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

Short-term decarbonization of long-distance heavy transport?
By short-term I mean this decade, by long distance I mean over 1000 km, and examples of heavy would be enormous trucks, planes and supertankers.

I attempted to improve Synthetic fuel as I thought it might be relevant, but without much success as I know little about the subject. I am sure you guys must include someone who knows and could improve this very dated article. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:05, 26 April 2022 (UTC)

User script to detect unreliable sources
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like and turns it into something like
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.
 * John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14.

It will work on a variety of links, including those from cite web, cite journal and doi.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- &#32; Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:02, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Draft:Most – Litvínov Trams
Can anyone review and approve this please? These are the only references I could find, I don’t think this article should be rejected, as it is important for completion of tram networks in the Czech Republic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kmlbon (talk • contribs) 17:14, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Wheely
Hello! On behalf of the vehicle for hire company Wheely, I have submitted an edit request to update the article's History section. The replacement section I've proposed offers a slightly different overview of the company's early history, removes unnecessary mention of someone unrelated to Wheely, and corrects a statement about service in the Middle East. I don't edit articles directly because of my conflict of interest, so I'm hoping a WikiProject Transport member might be willing to update the entry on my behalf. Thanks! Inkian Jason (talk) 17:58, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Eyes needed on transportation organization article
An article I wrote five years ago, the Commercial Vehicle Safety Alliance, was recently nominated for deletion. The sourcing I identified shows the organization to have a major role helping with each state's driver safety efforts. The media sources are announcements of the group's safety efforts in transportation trade publications, but there are also some non-traditional sources including state web sites, which include background info in the states' driver safety manuals. Does this look like enough to keep the article? TechnoTalk (talk) 03:33, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:General Transit Feed Specification
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:General Transit Feed Specification that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ASUKITE 19:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

User:Fastfoodfanatic/Race and transportation in the United States
I am working on a new article, which may fit well in this project. It focuses on the link between transport and racism. You may ask me questions on my talk or this page's talk! Fastfoodfanatic (talk) 00:43, 20 October 2022 (UTC)

FAR for New Carissa
User:Buidhe has nominated New Carissa for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 18:19, 12 November 2022 (UTC)

Australian Branch for wikiproject for discussion
I have ambitions to start up an new wikiproject for primarily australian based transport, to those who are interested please check out WikiProject Council/Proposals/Australian Transport NotOrrio (talk) 10:07, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Request for participation in edit dispute
I would like the people here to comment on Talk:British Columbia. Numberguy6 (talk) 19:09, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Feedback on a bus body userspace draft
Hi folks,

Due to WP:WikiProject Buses being inactive and on the advice of WP:Helpdesk, I'll make an enquiry here.

Would anyone be willing to have a good look through my userspace draft, User:Hullian111/sandbox/Alexander R-Type, and give me some pointers on how to improve it for submitting it for draft review? I've worked on it for the best part of two years, and I'm slightly concerned that the scope needed of the article, detailing one of the most common bus bodies in the UK and Ireland of the 1990s, has lead to it becoming a burden to edit.

A couple of things:
 * Yes, there are some blanked sections which need sorting, i.e. "The FirstGroup were the biggest operators of Alexander Royales, purchasing [x] from 199x to 1999" and "First West Yorkshire purchased [x] Royales from 1997 to 1999", as well as some bits highlighted in all-caps. I have intentions to complete them when I can find a source, however those are starting to become rather hard to come by. It might be best to suggest to delete them or integrate them into another paragraph in some way.
 * A lot of the sources cited in the article are WP:OFFLINE, and some of those might not be properly filled out. I have a large collection of photographic extracts from many piles of UK bus & coach trade on hand, but from around September 2019 to early-2020, I didn't consider noting some of the dates, page and issue numbers of the magazines. In that regard, I've tried my best to make up for it.
 * Speaking of the magazine article citations, some of them mention that the then-new buses are fitted with "Alexander bodies" or "Alexander R-type bodies", with but a few of them specifying whether they are RH, RL, RV or Royale bodies, hence why I feel the draft quality is a bit dubious. What should, therefore, be done about that - should I consider breaking down R-type deliveries by powertrain variants or keep them as-is?
 * There's also a case where an article states SB Holdings (Strathclyde Buses + Kelvin Central Buses) ordered "150 Volvo Olympians with Alexander RL bodies", but on a site I use as a reference point for bus deliveries, I can only track down a total of 60 Olympians with RL bodies that were delivered to Strathclyde; the remaining 75 (52 for Strathclyde, 23 for Kelvin Central) all were built with Royale bodies, which I assume was a change in order after the article was published. Because none of these articles are online, however, it is tricky to verify if this is the case.
 * Would giving a few citations describing how many R-types were ordered by the Stagecoach Group one year, i.e. from one article stating "240 Leyland Olympians with Voith transmissions of which 100 wil be Alexander RS(?) bodied", be sufficient to demonstrate it was most popular with the company? Other articles state a vast amount of Olympians, Leyland and Volvo, were ordered by the group, however they don't mention the Alexander body type, and it seems impossible to give an exact number of how many R-types were delivered to Stagecoach.

Feel free to discuss here or on User talk:Hullian111/sandbox/Alexander R-Type - unfortunately, WP:Peer review doesn't quite work on user talk pages. Just really want to get this page out the mud and into a more finished state. Hullian111 (talk) 17:19, 3 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR notice
Kochi has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 02:08, 10 January 2023 (UTC)

GAR Notice
Sandakan has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:40, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority
Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 08:33, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

usable database for panama canal crossings
what i have now are the "Panama Canal Record" originals which are as i found them not properly OCR'd. Rotated pages are just missing.

Time span i am interested in specifically is till 1940.

Thanks. Nowakki (talk) 01:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

RFC on whether citing maps and graphs is original research
Please see Village pump (policy). Rschen7754 15:14, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The RFC, now at Requests for comment/Using maps as sources, has questions related to notability. --Rschen7754 06:11, 30 March 2023 (UTC)

Project-independent quality assessments
Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a class parameter to WikiProject banner shell, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to WikiProject banner shell, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass WPBannerMeta a new custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:40, 13 April 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Cologne Cable Car
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Cologne Cable Car that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Skarmory  (talk •   contribs)  09:38, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

New Wikiproject/task force
Hello, there is a proposal for a potential Australian Transport Wikiproject, which can be found at WikiProject Council/Proposals/Australian Transport. This may take the form of a task force under here. If you are interested or want to provide feedback, please input there. Thank you. JML1148 (talk &#124; contribs) 11:02, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

AS-28
I've suggested that Russian deep submergence rescue vehicle AS-28 be split to Rescue of AS-28, as the majority of the article is about its rescue, so should exist as an accident article instead of a sub article. For the discussion, please see Talk:Russian deep submergence rescue vehicle AS-28 -- 64.229.90.172 (talk) 23:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Transport Disaster categories
Hello, WikiProject,

If you look at Category:Empty categories awaiting deletion, you'll see hundreds of Transport Disaster categories have been emptied and will be deleted next week. I don't know if this was done in keeping with your understanding of "transport disaster" so I thought I'd bring it to your attention in case these categories had been emptied "out of process". Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 18:40, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

New Top level article?
I've just created Maritime incident, which apparently was missing... Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:00, 17 September 2023 (UTC)


 * It's always curious to me how we missed some articles like that over the previous two decades. Anything DYKable? &#123;{u&#124; Sdkb  }&#125;  talk 16:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Train
Train has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Eldomtom2 (talk) 16:46, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Legal definition of pedestrian
includes wheelchairs § 23 U.S. Code § 217 - Bicycle transportation and pedestrian walkways. (3) Pedestrian.—The term “pedestrian” means any person traveling by foot and any mobility-impaired person using a wheelchair. 2601:601:1900:E380:C009:15B8:A044:12C7 (talk) 21:19, 29 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Bit curious as to the context for posting this? Hullian111 (talk) 22:29, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

RM
There is currently a proposed move at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Containers to have the project moved from WikiProject Containers to WikiProject Containers and Storages. - Jerium (talk) 18:37, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Queen Mary 2
Queen Mary 2 has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 17:07, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Lightvessel
There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Lightvessel that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:10, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

Tesla Cybertruck has an RfC
Tesla Cybertruck, which is within the scope of this WikiProject, has an RfC for can Munro & Associates media content ever be used as a source in the Cybertruck article. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. N2e (talk) 17:55, 8 January 2024 (UTC)