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Name Of Music Artist Used In Article[edit]

shivani and sheetal are so cool! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.224.35.191 (talk) 10:43, 11 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Jay Sean referred to Jhooti repeatedly through this article, the article is about the stage persona taken on by Kamaljit Jhooti in the music business which is Jay Sean.

In the Freddy Mercury Wikipedia article even though his birth name was Farrokh Bulsara, his birth name is mentioned once but thereafter he is called Freddy Mercury.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freddie_Mercury


Does the colour of Jay Sean’s skin play a part in the continual reversion by some users of his name to Kamaljit Jhooti?

(Taz Manchester 01:07, 22March 2006 (UTC))

I think most of the contributors maybe friends or relatives and they know his as "Kam", "Kamaljit", or "Mr Jhooti". Just a guess. Thanks--Sikh-History 20:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--169.241.28.94 (talk)==Jay Sean Dropped From Virgin Records Label== The article states, "In Feb 2006, he was released from his contract with Virgin Records due to poor sales."

This is speculative information according to: http://www.asiansinmedia.org/news/article.php/music/1239 It could have in fact been the other way around. (Alex Mathews 04:08hiiiiiii, 25 March 2006 (UTC))

Sources?[edit]

This article has no sources whatsoever... I'm not an authority on Jay Sean, so can someone please add them. In the mean time, I'm just going to go ahead and tag the article... nothing personal--J.a.f.a.c. 04:50, 12 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth[edit]

There appears to be confusion between 26 March 1981, and 27 March 1983 - both of which are currently quoted in the article. My research actually favours 26 March 1979 ! Incidentally, I actually got the following message from a (sadly unknown) contributor, by way of evidence.

Hi Derek, I changed Jay Sean's year of birth (which you initially changed from 1982 to 1981) to 1979. I was in school with him, hence I know (although all the media says otherwise). Thought you might wanna update your database.

Any thoughts ?



added on Feb 25 2010: His year of birth is 1979: the record is on p0561 vol 13 of Hillingdon, West London, records. His mother's maiden name appears to be Bhooi. See: http://www.popbitch.com/newboard/37/33/53/4//Jay-Sean-30.html

Derek R Bullamore 21:30, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Edited date of birth with a reference to the specific Birth Record, which seems in no doubt Sah10406 (talk) 23:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

TO THE PERSON WHO DELETED INFORMATION


WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY "any thoughts????" I EDITED THIS WIKIPEDIA PAGE JUST YESTERDAY AND WROTE HIS REAL DATE OF BIRTH WHICH IS FOR YOUR FACT(26TH MARCH 1981)!

AND NOW IT IS DELETED BECAUSE ONE OF YOU USELESS PEOPLE HAS DELETED IT FOR SOME REASON...CANT YOU TAKE THE FACT THAT I'VE ACTUALLY MET HIM IN REAL LIFE AND HAVE ASKED HIM...SO THREEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

FOR A START GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT AND THEN START DELETING OR EDITING THIS PAGE IF YOU HAVE THE NERVE TO DO SO!!!!!!!!!!!!

RIGHT!!!!!!

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF I EDITED YOUR PAGE HUH HUH HUH HUH???????????????

ADDED ON : 7TH MARCH 2010 FROM SARA ALI —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.216.248.152 (talk) 16:08, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I moved your comment to the appropriate place this time. Don't place your comment in the middle of someone else's text, or it gets deleted for modifying another person's comments.—Kww(talk) 16:47, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Jay Sean.jpg[edit]

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-No picture? Boo. What kind of a biography article doesn't have a single picture of the person!? I had to use google image to find out what the guy looks like. --Iateyourgranny (talk) 16:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Deal With It?[edit]

Why does Deal With It Redirect here? Why not a disambiguation page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MichaelACookII (talk • contribs) 13:44, 6 September 2007 (UTC) TALK ON TO GOOGLE TALK[reply]

  • Apparently Deal With It is an unreleased album of Jay Sean. It has on it Ride It - City Girl -

Maybe - Workin It - My Own Way - Caught (Snippet) - Why Cry - Follow My Heart - Shame - Ride It (Remix). It was prepared in 2007. But even in the official site, it is not mentioned. "Ride It" was used again in the 2nd official album of Jay Sean indicated on his Wikipedia page. But you are right. There should not be a redirect from "Deal With It" to Jay Sean werldwayd (talk) 18:42, 31 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Who Is Mo.Patel-Professional Assassin (in See Also section)[edit]

All the See Also acts do have a connection to Jay Sean, except for the suspiciously named " Mo.Patel-Professional Assassin ". Just exactly who is this getlemen, and what's the relation to Jay Sean? Is it just a prank? When you press the Mo.Patel-Professional Assassin , it goes to an empty page... I suggest deletion of the name Mo.Patel-Professional Assassin, unless a legitimate valid link can be extablished. werldwayd (talk) 21:37, 30 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are his parents from Pakistan or India?[edit]

Jay sean is a pakistani sikh who still visits his family in punjab province of pakistan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P5z9dVPwnc

I'm a hundred percent sure that his family is from India because he clearly states that in the first and second part of this youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZG_y_UlrZg&feature=related. Please look at the video if you don't believe me. Who ever is editing it back to say he's from Pakistan, stop doing it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.208.104.130 (talk) 05:55, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


his family hails from india, please stop changing it to pakistan! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.208.104.130 (talk) 01:19, 17 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

when his family migrated it was not just India it was called British India or Hindustan (Real name of sub-continent including Pakistan and India). So in this Wikipedia article we can say that his from Punjabi family migrated from British India.. this way we won't have any fight... no matter where ever he is from but all i know that is South Asian like me and he is from the same root and same people like everyone else in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.. Let's don't forget that we just separated only 63 years before and our Grand fathers were from the same land which was knows as Hindustan that time and now its only divided into two countries but we Indian and Pakistani have same faces, same language and almost same culture and have our Grandfathers and our families from one land that was known as Hindustan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faisalfaisalfaisal (talk • contribs) 17:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]



He's definitely from Pakistan, ok? Look, in one of his music videos, he has a Pakistani flag and a British Flag on a door, NOT an Indian one, alright? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8uztB31eUw&feature=related ; It'l be at the very start at 0:19 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hussainhssn (talk • contribs) 04:36, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Citations[edit]

I added some footnotes, but this article needs more. Please correct my minor errors. Crokis (talk) 07:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]



luv u jay sean xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

British Indian[edit]

I have such a huge fan base there, which is very special to me, and India is important to me of course because it’s my roots.... We still hold very traditional Indian values and morals though, which is an important part of our lives.

Jay Sean in July 2008

Not even once has he talked about his "Pakistani roots" and therefore, he is not British Pakistani. Pervez Musharaff was born in Delhi, British India (now in India) but that does not make him an Indian. Similarly, just because Sean's parents came from a town in British India which is now in Pakistan does not mean he is Pakistani.



when his family migrated it was not just India it was called British India or Hindustan (Real name of sub-continent including Pakistan and India). So in this Wikipedia article we can say that his from Punjabi family migrated from British India.. this way we won't have any fight... no matter where ever he is from but all i know that is South Asian like me and he is from the same root and same people like everyone else in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.. Let's don't forget that we only separated only 63 years before and our Grand fathers were from the same land which was knows as Hindustan that time and now its only divided into two countries but we Indian and Pakistani have same faces, same language and almost same culture and have our Grandfathers and our families from one land that was known as Hindustan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faisalfaisalfaisal (talk • contribs) 17:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, stop this silly nationalistic attitude. --98.212.30.117 (talk) 14:25, 12 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]



He's Pakistani, go to 0:19 of his music video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8uztB31eUw&feature=related

and btw, Manmohan Singh was born in what is today Pakistan as well, just letting you know.

OMG WHY DON'T YOU PEOPLE GO ASK HIM WHATEVER HE IS!!!!! He is INDIAN OK!!!!! How in world is he Pakistani? Pakistanis I love you and all...but Mr. Jhooti is truly Indian. But don't forget...we are the same ethnic group and all!!! PEACE —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ja55queen (talk • contribs) 22:46, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is He Jatt, Dalit or Other Caste[edit]

It's not important to me, but some editors here have launched a hue and cry about his caste. Can we ahve a reliable source to confirm it. Thanks--Sikh-history (talk) 08:32, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


he is a jatt-sikh guy (jhutti is the one of the clan among jatts of punjab).In punjab he belongs to hoshiarpur area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sidhu.0072 (talk • contribs) 06:02, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh really? He's jatt? PLEASE!!!!! I would suggest you do some researching before you mislead someone...Oh and for your information he's Tarkhan. Next time don't post something before you research it. You jatts just want to get famous off of others..I'm just wondering what you would do if he was a Dalit. I'm guessing you would deny that he is Punjabi..or even Indian! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ja55queen (talk • contribs) 22:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nationality dispute[edit]

Further to this thread at WP:ANI, I have applied long-term semi-protection to the article to prevent further IP edit-warring over Jay Sean's nationality. I have also altered the text to say simply "Punjabi", since that at least doesn't seem to be under dispute.

I would respectfully suggest that in the interests of article stability this might be allowed to remain unmodifed - it appears that it's only when "Indian", "Pakistani" or some combination of the two is added that edit-warring resumes. However, it's up to the editors here to thrash out a consensus based on reliable sources. Because only new accounts and IP editors are affected by semi-protection; if edit-warring resumes among our regulars here, blocks will be handed out ;) EyeSerenetalk 12:34, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also nobody is warring over his religion ,so that may be good to add back with the reference that was there,from my side it is not really edit wars but i have to reverse people editting and removing referenced material for this nationality dispute,but i think the sikh family should be added back as it was not under dispute , Regards Information-Line (talk) 12:40, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you look above you can see that there are a number of sources saying he is of Punjabi INDIAN ethnic descent. I believe that this should remain in the article. He is British of Indian Sikh origin. This is important as it delineates his precise ethnicity, and the edit-warring seems to be precipitated by people who want to mischievously and falsely change his ethnicity. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.152.241 (talk) 17:57, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The major point is that this is completely irrelevant. He's British. He's Sikh. He's Punjabi. All three are documented in the article. Which country the area he is from is in now (when he doesn't live there) or then (when he wasn't alive) is unimportant.—Kww(talk) 18:07, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

When Jay Sean says so many times in so many documented interviews that he is Indian, and he even talks about the importance of his Indian heritage, why is it unimportant? This should not be subject to being excluded due to the malicious editing campaigns of third parties. Wikipedia should tell the truth. At the very minimum, a quotation from the interview source explaining his parents origin in India can be inserted into the biography to give historical context to his origin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 20:04, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]


One other thing --- it is important to delineate that he is of ethnic Indian descent because the Punjab region is partitioned between India and Pakistan. It is as relevant as describing whether someone is of Greek or Turkish Cypriot descent for example. This is important. If it was not important, why did it attract malicious and false distortions from mischievous (and falsehood spreading) third parties? There are several documented and sourced interviews for this. I think it should be re-inserted. At a very minimum, so that organised attackers don't triumph in this regard, quite apart from the need for accuracy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 20:11, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Documenting whether someone is of Greek or Turkish Cypriot origin isn't particularly important, either. Discuss the man's achievements and what he's done, not his genetics.—Kww(talk) 22:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You say that as if his ethnicity and national origin are completely irrelevant to the article when they definitely aren't. Practically every Wiki article about famous people have a section about their origin. 24.184.166.238 (talk) 23:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)Kaul[reply]
His ethnicity is documented: he's Punjabi, and a British citizen, having been born in Southall.—Kww(talk) 23:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
You missed the national origin part. He's a British citizen, but that doesn't change that he's a Punjabi Indian and I'm not sure why people are so eager to remove that from the article. 24.184.166.238 (talk) 23:41, 3 August 2009 (UTC)Kaul[reply]
Because the city his parents came from is now a part of Pakistan? He is a Punjabi, but not all Punjabis come from regions that belong to modern-day India.—Kww(talk) 12:58, 4 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
According to what source? You repeatedly ask us to provide quotes and sources, so you should have one for that. 24.184.166.238 (talk) 15:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)Kaul[reply]
I'm not aware of one, which is why it isn't in the article. I really don't understand why this dispute is so important to people. There's obviously a dispute, or this article wouldn't have been subject to an edit-war for so long. Right now, the article is neutral as to origin. If someone wants to be specific, they need to provide evidence that the other side is making blatantly false statements. All that takes is a source that identifies the city that his family comes from. For such a hot dispute, I'm amazed that no one can locate such a source.—Kww(talk) 15:58, 9 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you're not aware of any source, why are you even debating this, especially when Jay is clearly stated that he's Indian multiple times (like at the India Day Parade in NYC last Sunday). Moreover, if you don't think this dispute is so important, then why so much effort to keep it neutral to appease vandals when they don't have facts to back their claim up? 208.125.28.188 (talk) 15:49, 21 August 2009 (UTC)Kaul[reply]
If there hadn't been edit-warring, my attention would never have been attracted to the issue. Neither side has been able to produce a source that would allow a neutral party to describe one side of the debate as a "vandal." The article seems to be most stable in a form where it describes his ethnicity only as "Punjabi".—Kww(talk) 16:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
People have provided multiple sources where he states that his parents are from India. A person below gave linked to an interview where he says so, but apparently it wasn't good enough because he doesn't state the specific city lol? With that logic, including that he's of Punjabi ethnicity in the article shouldn't be allowed either because there's no definite source saying where he's indigenous to Punjab (even though he has a very obvious Punjabi name). 128.238.142.69 (talk) 14:24, 15 September 2009 (UTC)Kaul[reply]

There is absolutely no source that says that the city his parents come from is in present day Pakistan. This is a fallacy, a lie and a falsehood. There are several sources of him saying in interviews that he is Indian, that his parents are from India and that he is aware and proud of his Indian heritage. It is precisely because there are mischievous people saying he is pakistani and not Indian that this should be included in the biography -- because it is the truth. The comparison with the partition of Cyprus is appropriate. Wikipedia should stand up for the truth, not be cowed down under vandalism. Wikipedia should delineate his precise ethnic background, given that there are already sourced interviews in which he talks about his Indian heritage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 03:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can you show me a source for the city of his parents birth? If you can demonstrate that that city is in present-day India, I'm willing to be persuaded.—Kww(talk) 03:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Either way saying his parents were born is Pakistan is a falsehood. If they were born in present day Pakistan pre-1947 (which seems to be the case) he they would be Indian, because that was still India then. If you scroll up there are several interviews with him saying his parents are India, so lets keep it at that. The main thing that come out from his interviews however, is, he is British, and he is Sikh, and I think he was born in East London, not West London, Southall, because he attended schools all in East London. London is a massive place. Cheers--Sikh-History 10:38, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
That's precisely why the article shouldn't say he's Pakistani, either.—Kww(talk) 13:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kww, you asked for a source. This is from a newspaper interview he gave in 2008:

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“I can’t wait to do the Indian and South Asian tour,” he said. “I have such a huge fan base there, which is very special to me, and India is important to me of course because it’s my roots.”

Sean studied medicine at the Queen Mary’s School of Medicine and Dentistry in London, but dropped out after two years to pursue a singing career when Virgin records offered him a £1 million (Dh7m) contract.

His parents, both born in India, supported him. “My parents aren’t very conventional,” Sean said. “They grew up in London, so they just wanted me to choose a career that would make me happy.

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Note: both of his parents were born in India.

link:

http://www.thenational.ae/article/20080703/NATIONAL/326774476/1010&profile=1010

There are other interviews on youtube where he mentions that his parents are from India. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 13:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also at the beginning of his bio it says "Kamaljit Singh Jhooti better known by his stage name Jay Sean (born on 26 March 1981 is a British Pop singer-songwriter"

Would it be more accurate to describe him as a British RnB / Pop singer songwriter, because RnB is the genre he emerged from and is devoted to. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 13:40, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No problem reversing the genre. As for the source, I asked for a source on a precise question. I don't think there is any doubt that the city is parents are from was within the borders of pre-1947 India. Can you provide a source that demonstrates that it is within modern-day India, and not within modern-day Pakistan?—Kww(talk) 14:02, 7 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kww, respectfully, you seem to have been taken in by the vandals. There is absolutely nothing in the world, apart from the assertion of the vandals, that his parents were born in any of the territory that now comprises Pakistan. Nothing at all. It is internet whispers, propounded by mischief-makers, a falsehood, and a bogus assertion that by some strange convolution becomes the idea that has to be disproved. Whatever the reasons for this vandalising campaign are, jingoistic, chauvinistic or otherwise, the fact is that there are explicit sources, given in interviews with Jay Sean, that both of his parents were born in India.

The Pakistan thing is a red herring completely, a stink-bomb that has been thrown by vandals, that seems to have rendered in the minds of some people an assumption that there is a truth in it. There is not. There is not a single thing that indicates it is anything than a possibly concerted vandalising campaign. Yet there are explicit statements that his parents are from India.

I think that Wikipedia should stand by the principle that vandalising should never be rewarded. It has come to the point that not rectifying this is a victory for them, and a victory against truth on Wikipedia.

Jay Sean is headlining the India Independance Day Parade in New York on August 16th as well Sweetmangolover (talk) 01:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 01:10, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just to add to my last contribution, Kww, you say "I don't think there is any doubt that the city is parents are from was within the borders of pre-1947 India"

But there is every doubt about this. The people who have been vandalising on this issue have not provided a single source for it. They seem to have succeeded in planting this meme in peoples mind simply by repeating it over and over and over again. It is simply, a falsehood. And there are categorical and explicit statements by Jay Sean that he is Indian, and that both of his parents were born in India. Asking this question is utterly skewered. It is up to those who vandalise and spread this, to show the evidence. But they can't, because it is not true. And I have to say, I think its become a point of wiki principle now. Vandals should not feel their long campaigns can be rewarded. That encourages further abuse.

Thanks for listening to me, by the way, and thanks for changing the RnB / Pop thing Sweetmangolover (talk) 01:23, 8 August 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 01:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the poor signatures above as well, I'm just getting used to it Sweetmangolover (talk) 01:25, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think I've been taken in by anything. It seems like someone from either side of the dispute would be able to find a source that says precisely what city his parents were from. With that, anyone could look at a map. Until then, I don't really care much which side of the dispute is right, I only care that the article doesn't go back and forth every three hours. As a non-Indian/non-Pakistani, I remain a little surprised that so much attention is paid to national boundaries to define ethnicity, as opposed to the smaller kingdoms that were there before the British colonial era.—Kww(talk) 01:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His parents are both born in India. There is a source from a newspaper interview which I link to above that states that categorically. There is absolutely nothing in the world that says his parents were born in the territory that now forms Pakistan. In fact, it has only been asserted by the vandals that come here. It is being done by nationalist chauvinists who are mischief making. If it is important enough to be a target of vandals, shouldn't Wikipedia hold to the principles of truth and defend that? You say 'there is little doubt his parents were born in a city that comprises Pakistan' but there is every doubt about that because Jay Sean himself says they were born in India in an interview, and there is absolutely nothing in the world that speaks of his 'Pakistani' roots because they don't exist. They are a figment of the imagination of vandals on wikipedia. You take that as the default that has to be disproved, when it is the absolute opposite.....the fact is that he is of Indian descent, and anyone who tries to say he is not needs to find the sourced fact that he isn't, which they won't be able to, because he is not.

I understand you are concerned about it being changed but that is why you have to stand up to vandalism by people changing it to suit their nationalistic agenda. You can simply lock it as it is now, or keep it in semi-lockdown or ban persistent vandals. As for the definition of ethnicity by boundaries, ethnicity comprises many different elements, and the fact that partition of a province took place means that the delineation of his ethnic identity is relevant and important -- he after all places emphasis on it in interviews himself, including the one I have linked to above, talking about the fact that his parents were both born in India, and he takes pride in his Indian roots. And to add to that, he is headlining the India Day Parade in New York on August 16th. I think all of these things are salient, and as a point of principle, and as a matter of truth, you should not bow to the vandals. Thanks again. 91.110.202.99 (talk) 23:09, 11 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ok if no one agrees to put India/Pakistan I propose to change it to: "Jay Sean was born in the Southall neighbourhood of London into an Asian family. He is of Sikh Punjabi descent." This will be more specified for now! Because in the reference given in an interview he clearly states he is British Asian. Also he is the first major Asian pop/rnb star so it should he pointed out.(Dewan 13:31, 17 August 2009 (UTC))


Actually, the most important question on this, given that vandals targetted this page mischievously, and even though there are quoted sources about his parents being from India, is how Jay identifies himself. And when it comes to his ethnicity, he self identifies as British, of Indian Punjabi descent. Here is the source, from his biography on his very own website:

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Born and raised in London, England and of Indian/Punjabi heritage, Jay Sean started rapping at 12 and credits rap with helping him structure, produce and write songs.

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I honestly believe that Wikipedia has been the victim of a massive vandal attack and bullying fraud. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Jay Sean is of Indian-Punjabi heritage. He states in interviews that his parents are from India. He SELF-IDENTIFIES as Indian on his official website. He played the India Day Parade in New York on August 16th. There is not a single scrap of evidence or a source about him having any association with Pakistan -- it is just the repeated vandals who seem to think that repeating a lie over and over again gains some currency.

So, he states in interviews that his parents are from India. He talks over and over again about being of Indian ethnicity. He headlines events like the India Day Parade, and most importantly, he self-identifies as Indian on his official biography on his own website. There really is no doubt in the world that he is of Indian-Punjabi descent, and that he self-identifies himself in this way. So why allow Wikipedia to be bullied and vandalised by liars with an agenda? 91.110.174.169 (talk) 11:48, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dewan, Jay Sean is from an Pakistani family. His parents were both born in Pakistan. He self-identifies as Indian-Punjabi. He talks about how important his Indian heritage is to himself. Is Wikipedia about the truth, or about compromising in the face of vandals with an agenda? 91.110.174.169 (talk) 11:50, 20 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I do completely agree with you but one needs to get an administrator to agree. I don't have the power to change anything to Indian even though there is enough evidence that he himself considers himself Indian. That we know for a fact! Try to convince User:EyeSerene or User:KWW. User Talk:Dewan357

Find a source that names the city his parents are from, and show that that city is currently on the Indian side of the border. That's not a really complicated task, and will allow for a rock-solid citation that can allow us to treat the people claiming "Pakistani" as vandals.—Kww(talk) 01:50, 22 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ok Manmohan Singh parents are from the region now Pakistan. So do you go to Manmohan article and say his parents are from Pakistan. I don't think so! His parents are from a region of colonial India now Pakistan. Besides KWW there is a consensus that he is Indian and gave reference from him talking to reporters, his website, and other news papers. It is more then enough. There isnt anyone here, besides KWW, who states that he is not Indian. In my opinion the user kww is taken in by the vandals and unfair in the judgement. User Talk:Dewan357

This site [1] and many others clearly says he "British-born Indian singer." User Talk:Dewan357

For the record, I've never said he was Pakistani. I've said that "Punjabi" is sufficient, and that including either "Indian" or "Pakistani" promotes edit-warring. So long as the situation is even slightly ambiguous, the editors that were inserting "Pakistani" can't be treated as vandals, they can only be treated as edit-warring. Unfortunately, edit-warring is a two-way affair, and the good and the bad wind up punished equally.—Kww(talk) 11:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No! as long as the site site remains protected I don't see edit warring between established users. I don't know any established editor who will dispute he is Pakistani. If there is a dispute and the user finds references that he is Pakistani and like we did for him being Indian I personally will remove the fact that he is Indian and put back British Asian. So is it a deal. User talk:Dewan357 ""No!" to exactly what? What is "a deal"?—Kww(talk) 12:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No meaning to edit warring because this site is protected. I dont think any established user here will dispute that he is Pakistani and non established users who may can have their say here in the discussion page. Also if someone finds a reference he is Pakistani I will change it back to British Asian (neutral point of view) from Indian family. So I propose the change to Indian family and the dispute will be solved. User talk:Dewan357

I propose that you leave it alone, as it is accurate, sufficiently complete, and history shows that changing it to "Indian" causes edit-warring.—Kww(talk) 15:03, 25 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]
How is the new edit accurate? You included that his parents are from Jhelum, but you have no actual reputable source saying so. You kept insisting above that a definite source was needed so we can change the article, but apparently that's not the case when you edit it to appease vandals? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.238.142.69 (talk) 14:31, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It should be noted that Jay is from Hounslow, not just West London. West London is appropriate to retain as an additional clarifier - but not nearly specific enough. The borough is rightfully proud of Jay and shouldn't be shunned by this lack of designation.

Saying that just putting his ethnicity of 'Punjabi' origin is sufficient without mentioning that he is of Indian Punjabi origin, when there are countless, almost endless sources, interviews and explicit statements of this, by Jay Sean shows a real disregard for truth, and sadly suggests that vandals smother truth and proper delineation on this article, which is the direct opposite of what Wikipedia is meant to stand for. It also shows a lack of understanding of history and identity. Jay Sean self-identifies as British Indian. There are sourced interviews and statements for this. His parents are also from India. Again, there are sourced interviews and statements for this. It beggars belief and rationality why this is not part of his biography. He's a Hardcore Pakistani Punjabi Mans for life dis dude might just be from T.P.(Thancliff Park) and 4sho im dis nikkas dukes cuz be his boss 4geyt birdman.


There is no source for the accusation that his family migrated from what is now Pakistan during partition. I think the moderators should insist on a source for that or strike it from the biography on wiki. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.190.203 (talk) 14:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Here is an interview with Jay Sean in which he mentions his parents and gives their age. His mother is 51 and his father is 52 years old, which means it is impossible that they emigrated from Pakistan, because they were born almost TEN YEARS after the partition of India in 1947.

It also adds up to another source that states he is British-Indian. There is now absolutely no source anywhere in the world that backs up the vandalisation un-truth that he has any connection with Pakistan, and there are countless sources, interviews, articles and documentation stating that he is of Indian heritage and that his parents were born in India. The misinformation about him having ancestry in Jhelum in what now comprises Pakistan is therefore false, unsourced and does not beloing on his wiki biography. I urge the moderators to amend it. by sweetmangolover

http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/the-ticket/2009/10/jay-sean-talks-to-danielle-law.html

Here is a source that his mother was born in Delhi in India. He literally has nothing to do with Pakistan. These are all falsehoods put around by some people for some reason. The article with the source about his family ancestry is here:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23770136-jay-sean-could-teach-the-x-factor-contestants-a-thing-or-two.do

When his parents came to England India was an independent country. sweetmanglover —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.232.166 (talk) 12:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]



He is Pakistani; look at his music video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8uztB31eUw&feature=related and go to 0:19; you will see a Pakistani flag next to a British one. There's your proof, do I see an Indian flag? nope. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hussainhssn (talk • contribs) 04:48, 16 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New Revision is So Cluttered[edit]

Jagged 85, you did a great job adding info, but some of it is unneeded. I edited some out stuff such as the Corbin Bleu info and the line saying that MOW was a huge hit in the UK when it wasn't. More stuff needs to go, or at least be moved. The intro is so long and some of the info should be moved to the main article. For an example, the fact that he replaced BEP at #1 on the Billboard Hot 100 really isn't significant enough to be in the intro. Please respond. AyanP (talk) 04:33, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

Jay Sean's parents are from India. There are countless sourced articles about his parents being from India in interviews on video and in newspapers. Why is the biography being changed to say his parents are from Pakistan? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.234.218 (talk) 03:00, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Where was he born?[edit]

The article has it as Southall, but there are so many articles that cite as Hounslow:

http://hounslow.hounslowchronicle.co.uk/2009/10/jay-sean-tops-us-charts.html

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/10/14/so-glad-to-be-jay-115875-21745574/

Or was he raised in Hounslow and born in Southall? Anybody know? AyanP (talk) 04:47, 2 November 2009 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

According to Allmusic, he was born in Hounslow, so I'd go with that. Looking at the article, it seems the source being used to verify Southall is this, but it doesn't mention it at all. — ξxplicit 04:58, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, thanks for the response. The original citation for Southall before my edit was this, but that page doesn't mention Southall either. The AllMusic page is already in the reference list so I'll edit and use that as the reference. I also googled "jay sean southall" again just to make sure and every source is pretty much copied off Wiki or says that he was RAISED in Southall. AyanP (talk) 02:13, 3 November 2009 (UTC)Ayan[reply]


i dont know where he was born but in 2003/4 (it may have been 5) he came to my high school (before he was very famous) along with juggy d and they did a concert for the school, and he said at the beggining that he went to villiers high school in southall, which was a rival school and that line got booed haha, but maybe thats why theres so many links to him being 'raised' in southall as he spent most of his school life here, i dont know where he was born though —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.214.60.207 (talk) 03:59, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your response. And yeah, I edited the page to include that he was raised in Southall and added a source. AyanP (talk) 22:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

Read This All[edit]

when his family migrated it was not just India it was called British India or Hindustan (Real name of sub-continent including Pakistan and India). So in this Wikipedia article we can say that his from Punjabi family migrated from British India.. this way we won't have any fight... no matter where ever he is from but all i know that is South Asian like me and he is from the same root and same people like everyone else in Pakistan, India and Bangladesh.. Let's don't forget that we only separated only 63 years before and our Grand fathers were from the same land which was knows as Hindustan that time and now its only divided into two countries but we Indian and Pakistani have same faces, same language and almost same culture and have our Grandfathers and our families from one land that was known as Hindustan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faisalfaisalfaisal (talk • contribs) 17:09, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

His parents were born after Independance. The Daily Mirror interview above states they are aged 51 and 52. This new article states that his mother was born in New Delhi.
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/showbiz/article-23770136-jay-sean-could-teach-the-x-factor-contestants-a-thing-or-two.do
So the facts are his parents are from India, and they were born over ten years after partition. There can be no doubts about this now. There are numerous sources and interviews stating it is so.
sweetmangolover —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.232.166 (talk) 13:02, 16 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Faisal, if what you said was really true, we would have no problem editing the article. This is not an issue of pride or anti-Pakistan sentiment; it's about truth. The problem is that it's not true and is confirmed in interviews as sweetmangolover stated. I think many Pakistanis are taking Rishi Rich's origin and somehow putting it on Jay.
Also, there are a few inaccuracies in your post. First, "Hindustan" is the name for what was the Mughal ruled area of South Asia, which only includes Pakistan and Northern India, not all of the subcontinent. Also, Pakistan shares similar faces and language as NORTHERN Indian states, not all of India. AyanP (talk) 00:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

Please amend the biography at the frontpage. It is consistently being vandalised to say that Jay's parents are from Pakistan when they are in fact from India. (As it happens, Rishi Rich is an Indian Sikh too but that is by the by for now)

There are endless videos, interviews, and newspaper articles stating that Jay is of Indian heritage and his parents are from India. This is beginning to look like racist mischief making and consistent vandalising. Please correct this. Sources for Jay's parents being from India are numerous - sweetmangolover —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sweetmangolover (talk • contribs) 03:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Jay Sean's parents - consistent vandalisation[edit]

There are countless sourced print interviews, radio interviews on youtube, and video interviews on youtube, in which it is categorically stated by Jay himself, and the interviewer, that his parents are from India. We have their names, their age, and their city of origin. And yet, somehow, this page is consistently being vandalised to state that his parents are from Pakistan. Please can assigned editors correct this error and be mindful of it being vandalised in future? Remember, Wikipedia is about truth, and sourced, factual truth. Many thanks. sweetmangolover Sweetmangolover (talk) 03:12, 10 December 2009 (UTC) 'whata heck is this?!!! is this wikipedia!! OMG i m writin on wikipedia--99.16.6.41 (talk) 19:50, 3 March 2012 (UTC)somebody i love ___________[reply]

Not the first Asian artist to top Billboard Hot 100[edit]

Japanese recording artist Kyu Sakamoto reached Number 1 with "Sukiyaki" for three weeks in 1963 and held the distinction of being the only Asian to reach the peak until 2009. Someone should change this in the article. Or add that he is the first South Asian artist to do so.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukiyaki_(song) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alston89 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This could be due to the editor who added the fact might have been British - in the UK (where Jay Sean comes from), people from the Indian subcontinent are known as 'Asians'; those from further east are generally called South East Asians or just specified by their country of origin. To my British ears, to call Jay Sean of 'South Asian' origin sounds very odd. 86.138.46.95 (talk) 13:12, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so. It was being reported on American sites too. And actually, people from all the way in the far East (Japan, China, etc.) are East Asians. Southeast Asians are Thai, Filipinos, Cambodians, etc. Anyway we're on Wikipedia so it shouldn't be about vernacular in some certain country, but rather accuracy. If he's not the first artist of Asian origin to get a #1 in the US, it should be changed to South Asian. AyanP (talk) 22:02, 4 April 2010 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

Birthdate[edit]

There's a slow edit-war running over the year of birth being 1981 vs. 1983. I can find sources for 1983, does anyone know where 1981 is coming from?—Kww(talk) 15:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply] 

Jay Sean was born March 26th 1981, imdb states the facts, also Jay mentions he is 28 in interviews on youtube. http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article6933375.ece

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/article7023647.ece —Preceding unsigned comment added by Big987 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He took his A-Levels in 1997 according to his school website so it's more likely that he was born in 1979, 1980 or, at a push 1981. --80.192.21.253 (talk) 19:03, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

He was born on 26 March 1979, as shown in the England and Wales Birth Index, Hillingdon Registration county: Surrey, Greater London, Middlesex, Essex, Volume Number: 13, Page Number: 0561, so will be 31 next month. It's no great surprise that he wants to knock a few years off his age to seem more youthful given his audience is young. And just because it's in IMDB doesn't make it a fact - these people have publicists who supply the 'facts', you know! Also, the Latymer School Who's Who and click on the link for the PDF shows he left in 1997. As he had done his A Levels there, this date tallies well with him taking them when he had just turned 18. If he was born 2 or 4 years later as claimed (1981 and 1983) he would have taken his A Levels when he had either just turned 16 or just turned 14. Likely? Not. 82.32.238.139 (talk) 15:30, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How are you so certain that Birth Index is referring to the singer Jay Sean rather than someone else who happens to have a similar name? Also, the Latymer School site simply says when they left the school, not when they completed their A Levels. Regards, Jagged 85 (talk) 19:39, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Quite easily - there is only one Kamaljit Singh Jhooti in the England and Wales Birth Index between 1978 and 1984. Also, he has said he did his A Levels at Latymer, so he must have done his A Levels before or in 1997. Jay Sean has just turned 31, despite his best efforts to claim to be younger. 86.159.192.3 (talk) 13:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I believe it. I remember during the MAM era he used birth date used to be listed as 1981 and then it changed to 1982. Apparently he turned 27 this year so now it's 1983? lol AyanP (talk) 22:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

A'Levels[edit]

He sat his A'Levels in 1979? The same year that he was born.86.169.210.177 (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eh? --80.192.21.253 (talk) 22:08, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Born in Harlesden[edit]

I'm editing. Just found this on his own Facebook group:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=200778012672&topic=11693 AyanP (talk)Ayan —Preceding undated comment added 22:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Kamaljeet or Kamaljit?[edit]

Why does the early life use the spelling Kamaljeet? The official spelling is Kamaljit according to the sources used on the page. AyanP (talk) 22:26, 4 April 2010 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

First Artist of South Asian origin?[edit]

This article states that Jay Sean was the first solo artist of South Asian origin to enter the Billboard Hot 100s (with the song Down). What about MIA? Isn't she of south asian origin as well, and wasn't Paper Planes super popular in 2008? 18.109.0.90 (talk) 20:27, 27 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, M.I.A. is of South Asian origin, but the currently article says the first solo artist of South Asian origin to TOP the Billboard Hot 100. "Paper Planes" peaked at #4. And the "solo artist" is there I guess because Freddie Mercury of Queen would count as the first. AyanP (talk) 01:41, 18 August 2010 (UTC)Ayan[reply]

Edit request from 88.90.189.245, 23 April 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} I want to edit this article, because the article is old and need to be updated.

Hope I'll get a positiv answear. 88.90.189.245 (talk) 11:51, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Welcome. To use the editsemiprotected template, you need to make a detailed request in a 'please change X to Y' style and someone will insert your change in the article unless there is a problem. Or you could register a user name, make ten edits and wait four days, and be able to edit this yourself. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 13:28, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from VMasters0123, 8 June 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} i want to edit Jay Sean's early life section immigration because he's from JEHULUM, PUNJAB,PAKISTAN and not from INDIA therefore i would like to request the wiki authorities to edit this info about him awaiting for a positive reply

VMasters0123 (talk) 01:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It won't change to say they immigrated from Pakistan, and it's not supposed to definitively state India, either. So far as defining an ethnicity goes, "Punjabi Sikh" is sufficiently specific.—Kww(talk) 02:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 209.6.224.121, 27 June 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}

Add Irish language version ga: Jay Sean 209.6.224.121 (talk) 02:49, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. — ξxplicit 02:54, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Princeali88, 27 June 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}}

Dear moderator,

I have read on several websites that Jay Sean is of Pakistani origin, born and brought up as a sikh in England.

Finally I have found a reliable source that can prove that. Jay Sean was live on air with Wild FM, a radio based in the North of Holland. On Wild FM's website, it says that Jay Sean's parents have emigrated from Jehlum, Pakistan. Below is the source:

http://wildfm.nl/artist/802/jay_sean_ft_lil_wayne.html


Could you please be so kind as to look into this matter and correct it on Jay Sean's official wikipedia page.

Thanking you in advance

Princeali88 (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article already mentions that his parents immigrated from Pakistan. SpigotMap 12:32, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Actually it doesn't, and probably shouldn't. The least controversial description seems to be "Punjabi Sikh". Everyone agrees on that part.—Kww(talk) 19:45, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Read carefully. I will make it easier for you:

Pre-carrière: 1981 - 2002 Zijn ouders zijn Pakistaanse Sikhs afkomstig uit Jehlum, Punjab, die eind vorig eeuw naar Groot-Brittannië emigreerden voor een beter toekomst

" Pre-career 1981 - 2002 His parents Pakistani Sikhs, originating from Jehlum, Punjab, who emmigrated to Great Britain at the end of the last century, for a better future. "

Grab a dictionary, translate it, and that is what you will get.

Punjabi Sikh is simply not correct. It is like saying Mr. X is an English Christian, or Mrs. Y is a French Jew. Punjabi is simply the language or state, it is not a country, and sikh refers to a religion. As wikipedia is a place where the clearest facts are supposed to be available, I once again request you to please change the following.

"Jay Sean's parents are Pakistani Sikhs, Originating from Jehlum, Punjab, Pakistan. They moved to London, United Kingdom in 1999 for a better future."

Thanking you in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeali88 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Don't worry about translating Dutch for me, as I'm fluent in it. I know that you have found one site that makes this claim. Believe me, there are numerous sources that claim an Indian origin. Tying his ethnicity to a state is quite specific and quite adequate: can you tell me one way in which you would expect Jay Sean to be different if his parents were Punjabi Sikhs from the Pakistan side of the border as opposed to being Punjabi Sikhs from the Indian side? I doubt it. The state, with its language and cultural influences, and the religious group, with all that entails, define the ethnicity. The remaining issues are historical happenstance.—Kww(talk) 20:12, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You are totally misinforming people by saying 'PUNJABI sikhs' becuase Punjabi is not an origin. It is simply a language. Of course one most know from which country the parents originate from. The forums and blogs that make the claim of him being indian are not directly linked to him. Jay Sean was live on air with Wild FM and has personally approved the information they provide on their site. I even called WILD FM to ask them about their policy of publishing information about artists. They told me that the information is given by artists themselves, and only after approval is the information published.

The difference between Pakistani sikhs and indian sikhs is HUGE. Compare Christians in Italy and Christians in the USA. I'm sure religious practices are different but the biggest differences lie in the 2 different countries. india and Pakistan are 2 very distinct countries.


Believe me I have personal sources because of which I know Jay Sean's Pakistani origin.

I request the moderators once again to please change Jay Sean's background. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.172.181 (talk) 14:02, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bring forth these sources. SpigotMap 14:25, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Punjabi "simply a language"? That's one of the more ridiculous arguments I've heard on this topic yet. Perhaps you should start by reading the history of the Punjab and come back when you have something meaningful to say on the topic.—Kww(talk) 15:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


@Spigot: Biggest source is myself. I know the man personally. I have studied with him at Queen Mary, Uni of London. He studied Medicine and I studied Business & Politics. I met him during the Freshers fair and know him since. He's said it himself, what can be a better source. He also mentions that he wants Pakistan & India to be united, hence his going to Indian independence day programs + melas. But I know those who do not want to believe, won't. That's why I've been looking for and found a reliable source.


@KWW You are running away from the argument Mr. 50 year old moderate dutch speaker by telling me to look up a page. You are still not wanting to accept my reliable source. Jay Sean's parents are Pakistani, and you don't wanna accept it? No problem. Shows how invalid wikipedia can be. And for your kind info, Punjabi is a LANGUAGE;) don't ask me to be informed, as I am from the place haha lol. If you're refering to the state of punjab, then it's very vague, because the cultures of both Punjabs differ massively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeali88 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]


@KWW Show me ONE reliable source that says Jay Sean's parents are Indian. I would be greatful;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Princeali88 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article takes no position on whether his parents are Indian or Pakistani. That's for two reasons. First, it really doesn't matter. Second, whichever the article says, citizens of the other country get really upset, and it creates edit warring.
As for your reliable source, all your link is is a mirror of an older version of the Dutch Wikipedia article. Makes it pretty hard to believe that you called the radio station and quizzed them. We can drop this now.—Kww(talk) 17:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Sch2020, 21 August 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P5z9dVPwnc (Jay sean's parents migrated from east punjab jehlum pakistan ) he still visits to see some of his family members and village(home town)

http://wn.com/Jay_Sean,_Imran_Khan_Amir_Khan_Backstage_at_the_UK_AMA's_2010 jay sean with amir khan and imran khan backstage punjab200 photo shot & video jay sean video interview saying that his family migrated from jehlum (part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZG_y_UlrZg&feature=related) ( part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDme61f0L9c&feature=related ) (part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZQzhwGKJz0)

Sch2020 (talk) 10:00, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

no Declined His ethnicity is sufficiently defined. Further statements lead only to edit wars.—Kww(talk) 15:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Aditya199310, 4 September 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} His parents are from Punjab, India.[2]

Aditya199310 (talk) 20:37, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: First, please read the above discussions to understand that this needs consensus building if it is ever to be included in the article. Second, youtube.com is not a reliable source for information. Third, even if it was, that video does not support your claim; it is almost six minutes of Sean accepting an award at some ethnic event in NY without any mention of his parents, much less where they were born.Celestra (talk) 23:21, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I did remove the claim of Pakistani origin that had been reinserted, though.—Kww(talk) 23:46, 4 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Bibal8, 22 January 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}} Bibal8 (talk) 14:18, 22 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Tumbleweedz, 1 March 2011[edit]

{{edit semi-protected}}

Please add to the "freeze time to present" section: Jay Sean continues to work with his in-house production team, Orange Factory Music, who produced his first single "Down" as well as the first single from the soon be released album "Freeze Time" entitled "2012' featuring Nicki Minaj. [1]

Tumbleweedz (talk) 02:23, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Reaper Eternal (talk) 18:15, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ http://www.indiawest.com/readmore.aspx?id=2860&sid=5

Freeze Time release date[edit]

The date is now set for May 10th, thought you might have wanted to include that.

http://www.rap-up.com/2011/03/09/jay-sean-shoots-hit-the-lights-video-album-set-for-may/comment-page-1/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.26.215 (talk) 20:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


JULY 5th?? Where's the source becuase im not sure how you have the article saying July 5th and the Citation saying May. That makes NO sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.108.26.215 (talk) 14:02, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for pointing that out! Fixer23 (talk) 01:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I replaced the ref. Fixer23 (talk) 01:25, 18 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from 74.102.59.215, 27 May 2011[edit]

Spouse- (2011 - present ) Amy Longoria

74.102.59.215 (talk) 01:08, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. A quick search, and I see no [[WP:RS|reliable sources] to support this. If you have such a source, post it here, changing the "answered=yes" above to "no". Qwyrxian (talk) 02:37, 27 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Date of Birth - Contradiction[edit]

I am aware that thebirth date of Jay Sean has been a subject of discussion - however, i'd like to point out that despite the article text stating that is unknown and that sources range from 1979 to 1983, the infoboxstates 1981 with the hidden notice stating that it is backed up in the article by reliable sources. Only one of these can be right and I was about to edit the infobox until I saw that notice. Can anyone in the know please update the article or the infobox? FM [ talk to me | show contributions ]  19:32, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It is plain and proven that he was born in 1979, backed up by the national BMD records, as well as school records. However, for some reason any correction to 1979 is immediately reverted to 1981. I have amended it a few times, but I have given up now. Sah10406 (talk) 16:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Category:1979 births vs 1981. To change or not?[edit]

I was going to do it!. This way: -- /* Categories */ I've changed Category:1981 births for this one Category:1979 births. Cfr.: birth date & the reference ↑#↑3 item'bout. I've found the same at esWikipedia, 1st, then I came here, . . . . . . . . . . . . . But I decline, after I've read so many comments'bout, here. Contradictions?.
Then, the subject is, first: to change or not to change it? And second, who does it?. --PLA y Grande Covián (talk) 23:30, 22 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request from Anas3637, 11 July 2011[edit]

Hello sir.i would like to edit jay sean because i have some great news you would love to hear it if you can kindly accept my request thank you.. Anas3637 (talk) 18:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This template is for requesting specific edits be made, if you want to be able to edit the page you need to become either autoconfirmed or confirmed--Jac16888 Talk 18:36, 11 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

New album title[edit]

The album is no longer called "Worth It All". He changed the name to "Neon" with "Where You Are" being the lead single. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_RUIJTvQps — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.74.20.222 (talk) 21:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Where is jay Sean come from[edit]

India Shabnam05 (talk) 10:45, 19 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 6 October 2020[edit]

I want to add to Jay Sean's biography the Magnificent Performing Arts Award which he won at the 21st Century Icon Awards in London 2017. Reliable sources: https://www.21stcenturyiconawards.com/winners-2017, https://www.asianwealthmag.com/articles/21st-century-icon-awards-launches/, https://www.journalism.net.in/21st-century-icon-awards-launched-recognise-next-generation/

Thank you for the attention. --Enciclopedista100 (talk) 20:43, 6 October 2020 (UTC) Enciclopedista100 (talk) 20:43, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like pure WP:PROMO. --Hipal/Ronz (talk) 20:46, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not done, not a noteworthy award, only covered in spam sources. – Thjarkur (talk) 00:59, 7 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 8 March 2024[edit]

change Jay Sean was born as Kamaljit Singh Jhooti (Hindi: कमलजीत सिंह झूटी; Punjabi: ਕਮਲਜੀਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਝੂਤੀ[citation needed]) into just the punjabi version, he does not speak Hindi, nor does he hail for a family background where he speaks Hindi, it is irrelevant, only the punjabi name translation should be there. Lmaobrownie135 (talk) 21:09, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cocobb8 (💬 talk • ✏️ contribs) 22:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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