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Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #029, 13 Feb 2019

Where we are at:

Single-page portals: 4,704

Total portals: 5,705

The Ref desks survived the proposal to shut them down

You might be familiar with the Ref desks, by their link on every new portal. They are a place you can go to ask volunteers almost any knowledge-related question, and have been a feature of Wikipedia since August of 2005 (or perhaps earlier). They were linked to from portals in an effort to improve their visibility, and to provide a bridge from the encyclopedia proper to project space (the Wikipedia community).

Well, somebody proposed that we get rid of them, and the community decided that that was not going to happen. Thank you for defending the Ref desks!

Here's a link to the dramatic discussion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Indefinitely_semiprotecting_the_refdesk#Proposal_II:_Shut_down_the_Ref_Desks

The cleanup after sockpuppet Emoteplump continues...

The wake of disruption left by Emoteplump and the admins who reverted many (but not all) of his/her edits is still undergoing cleanup. We could use all the help we can get on this task...

Almost all of the speedy deleted portals have been rebuilt from scratch.

For the portals he/she restarted (many of which were done mistakenly, overwriting restarts and further development that had already been done), and/or tagged as the maintainer, see https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Emoteplump&oldid=881568794#Additional_Portals_under_my_watch

10,000 portals, here we come...

We're at 5,705 portals and counting.

New portals since issue #28

Prior to 2018, for the previous 14 years, portal creation was at about 80 portals per year on average. We did over 3 times that in just the past 9 days. At this rate, we'll hit the 10,000 portal mark in 5 months. But, I'm sure we can do it sooner than that.

What's next for portal pages?

There are 5 drives for portal development:

Create new portals
Expand existing portals, such as with new sections like Recognized content
Convert or restart old-style portals into automated single-page portals
Link to new portals from the encyclopedia
Pageless portals

Let's take a closer look at these...

1: Creating new portals

Portal creation, for subjects that happen to have the necessary support structures already in place, is down to about a minute per portal. The creation part, which is automated, takes about 10 seconds. The other 50 seconds is taken up by manual activities, such as finding candidate subjects, inspecting generated portals, and selecting the portal creation template to be used according to the resources available. Tools are under development to automate these activities as much as possible, to pare portal creation time down even more. Ten seconds each is the goal.

Eventually, we are going to run out of navigation templates to base portals off of. Though there are still thousands to go. But, when they do run out, we'll need an easy way to create more. A nav footer creation script.

Meanwhile, other resources are being explored and developed, such as categories, and methods to harvest the links they contain.

2: Expanding existing portals

The portal collection is growing, not only by the addition of new portals, but by further developing the ones we already have, by...

Improving and/or adding search parameters to better power the Did you know and In the news sections.
Adding more selected content sections, like Selected biographies.
Adding and maintaining Recognized content sections, via JL-Bot.
Adding pictures to the image slideshow.
Adding panoramic pics.
Categorizing portals.

More features will be added as we dream them up and design them. So, don't be shy, make a wish.

3: Converting old portals

By far the hardest and most time-consuming task we have been working on is updating the old portals, the very reason we revamped this WikiProject in the first place.

There are two approaches here:

A) Restart a portal from scratch, using our automated tools. For basic no-frills portals, that works find. But, for more elaborate portals, as that tends to lose content and features, the following approach is being tried...

B) Upgrade a portal section by section, so little to nothing is lost in the process.

4: Linking to new portals

Or "portal deorphanization"...

Dreamy Jazz Bot is purring along.

And a tool in the form of a script is under development for linking to portals at the time they are created, or shortly thereafter.

5...

See below...

New WikiProject for the post-saved-portal phase of operations...

Saved portals, are portals with a saved page.

What is the next stage in the evolutionary progression?

Quantum portals.

What are quantum portals?

Portals that come into existence when you click on the portal button, and which disappear when you leave the page.

Or, as Pbsouthwood put it:

...portals that exist only as a probability function (algorithm) until you collapse the wave form by observing through the portal button (run the script), and disappear again after use...

Introducing...

Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals (see it's talk page).

Keep on keepin' on

...'til next time, — The Transhumanist 10:16, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hutchinson River Parkway

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Hutchinson River Parkway you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 21:00, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Cotingas

@AmericanAir88: The Portal:Cotingas needs your help, I changed the article List of cotingas into chart form and know the portal is upset. It's saying Lua error:No page specified in the Selected general articles section. And another thing in the Selected images section it's only showing two pictures, when it should be showing way more then that. And just to let you know User:Transhumanist won't be able to do any work any time soon and mabe never again since some editors want him banned from Wikipedia for ever, they say his work is terrible.Catfurball (talk) 21:47, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

Special routes of U.S. Route 12 moved to draftspace

An article you recently created, Special routes of U.S. Route 12, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 15:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@CASSIOPEIA: Thank you. I will add the citations later today. I believe I am responsible enough to move to article space when the article is ready. I am an AFC reviewer. AmericanAir88^(talk) 16:10, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi American Air88, greetings. the source you provided [1] could not be found. Secondly provide significant coverage and not only one source of indepedent, reliable sources (inline citation pls). If you want to move to main space AFTER you have added the sources, do so, I have place the article on my watchlist. Thank you. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 16:28, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

@CASSIOPEIA: Thank you for letting me eventually move it to main space. Also, I never added that source. The article I created was just the code. If you noticed my edit summary “will add citations later” last night. That source must have been added by someone else. Thank you. AmericanAir88^(talk) 17:05, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi AmericanAir88, yes it was added by other editor - see here [2]. Cheers. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 17:09, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hutchinson River Parkway

The article Hutchinson River Parkway you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Hutchinson River Parkway for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of David Fuchs -- David Fuchs (talk) 13:03, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Splitting shipwreck lists

When you split a month list from a year list, you need to use the {{copied}} template on the talk page. This is for copyright attribution. Mjroots (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

@Mjroots: Thank you for that. I will continue to add new lists with this template. Any years you need me to focus on? AmericanAir88^(talk) 19:27, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

No particular years. If you feel a month would benefit from splitting off then feel free. Don't forget to check for broken references when you split a list, on the maind and new list, and add the template to the talk page of the split list. Mjroots (talk) 20:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.17

Hello AmericanAir88,

News

The WMF has announced that Google Translate is now available for translating articles through the content translation tool. This may result in an increase in machine translated articles in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to use the {{rough translation}} tag and gently remind (or inform) editors that translations from other language Wikipedia pages still require attribution per WP:TFOLWP.

Discussions of interest

Two elements of CSD G6 have been split into their own criteria: R4 for redirects in the "File:" namespace with the same name as a file or redirect at Wikimedia Commons (Discussion), and G14 for disambiguation pages which disambiguate zero pages, or have "(disambiguation)" in the title but disambiguate a single page (Discussion).
{{db-blankdraft}} was merged into G13 (Discussion)
A discussion recently closed with no consensus on whether to create a subject-specific notability guideline for theatrical plays.
There is an ongoing discussion on a proposal to create subject-specific notability guidelines for chemicals and organism taxa.

Reminders

NPR is not a binary keep / delete process. In many cases a redirect may be appropriate. The deletion policy and its associated guideline clearly emphasise that not all unsuitable articles must be deleted. Redirects are not contentious. See a classic example of the templates to use. More templates are listed at the R template index. Reviewers who are not aware, do please take this into consideration before PROD, CSD, and especially AfD because not even all admins are aware of such policies, and many NAC do not have a full knowledge of them.

NPP Tools Report

Superlinks – allows you to check an article's history, logs, talk page, NPP flowchart (on unpatrolled pages) and more without navigating away from the article itself.
copyvio-check – automatically checks the copyvio percentage of new pages in the background and displays this info with a link to the report in the 'info' panel of the Page curation toolbar.
The NPP flowchart now has clickable hyperlinks.

Six Month Queue Data: Today – Low – 2393 High – 4828
Looking for inspiration? There are approximately 1000 female biographies to review.
Stay up to date with even more news – subscribe to The Signpost.

Go here to remove your name if you wish to opt-out of future mailings.

--MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:18, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #030, 17 Mar 2019

Previous issue:

Single-page portals: 4,704

Total portals: 5,705

This issue:

Single-page portals: 4,562

Total portals: 5,578

The collection of portals has shrunk

All Portals closed at WP:MfD during 2019

Grouped Nominations total 127 Portals:

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/US County Portals Deleted 64 portals
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Districts of India Portals Deleted 30 Portals
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portals for Portland, Oregon neighborhoods Deleted 23 Portals
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Allen Park, Michigan Deleted 6 Portals
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cryptocurrency Deleted 2 Portals
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:North Pole Deleted 2 Portals

Individual Nominations:

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Circles Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fruits Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:E (mathematical constant) Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Burger King Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cotingas Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Prostitution in Canada Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Agoura Hills, California Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Urinary system Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:You Am I Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Cannabis (2nd nomination) Reverted to non-Automated version
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Intermodal containers Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adventure travel Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Adam Ant Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Benito Juárez, Mexico City Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Spaghetti Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Wikiatlas Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Greek alphabet Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Accounting Deleted G7
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Lents, Portland, Oregon Deleted P2
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Ankaran Deleted
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Jiu-jitsu Deleted G8
Portal:University of Nebraska Speedy Deleted P1/A10 exactly the same as Portal:University of Nebraska–Lincoln also created by the TTH

Related WikiProject:

Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals Demoted

(Attribution: Copied from Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Portal MfD Results)

WikiProject Quantum portals

This was a spin-off from WikiProject Portals, for the purpose of developing zero-page portals (portals generated on-the-screen at the push of a button, with no stored pages).

It has been merged back into WikiProject Portals. In the MfD the vote was "demote". See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Quantum portals.

Hiatus on mass creation of Portals

At WP:VPR, mass creation of Portals using semi-automated tools has been put on hold until clearer community consensus is established.

See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Hiatus on mass creation of Portals.

The Transhumanist banned from creating new portals for 3 months

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#Proposal 1: Interim Topic-Ban on New Portals.

Until next issue...

Keep on keepin' on. — The Transhumanist 02:47, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

I cannot believe we lost...

@Northamerica1000: and @The Transhumanist:

I have just read every page that has dealt with the recent controversy surrounding portals. It saddens me to see all my and your creations become red. We truly had something. We created an entire new genre of wikipedia articles. I look back at the success we had espically around New Years. I guess Wikipedia was not ready for it.

The Transhumanist: Do not feel bad or ashamed. You did the right thing. For almost a year, you saved a dying wikiproject and created a following of portal creations.

I will always stand by your side. You too NorthA. If you ever need any help with articles or settling debates, just ask. If you need me to contribute to my side of the argument for any portal deletions, just ask.

I am sorry that this happened. We will find a common project again. Maybe in the food and drink wikiproject industry, maybe in the Missing article area (huge backlogs), or maybe just dedication to improving wikipedia articles.

Never give up. Sometimes work can be stressful, but just know you always have people ready to back you up.

Talk to you soon and I look forward to editing with you soon. AmericanAir88^(talk) 06:42, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Nobody has lost. The community is working out what the threshold for portals will be. And development moves on. This generation of portals is just that: a generation. The next generation of portals might not have any pages at all, just generated right on the screen. Don't lose heart.

By the way, for future reference, see Wikipedia:Canvassing. — The Transhumanist 07:00, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of B (New York City Subway service)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article B (New York City Subway service) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Truflip99 -- Truflip99 (talk) 23:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:United Airlines

Portal:United Airlines, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:United Airlines and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:United Airlines during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 14:11, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Delta Air Lines

Portal:Delta Air Lines, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Delta Air Lines and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Delta Air Lines during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 14:12, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

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Template:2019 Stanley Cup playoffs

Your previous edit today was completely inaccurate at the time of posting, as neither team had clinched the second seed at that time. The only reason that you haven't been reverted and given a WP:CRYSTAL warning is because it eventually became true. In the future please make sure that your edits are accurate before you post them. Deadman137 (talk) 02:23, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Deadman137: I edited the template with an edit summary stating the source. I never would violate WP:CRYSTAL. Thank you. AmericanAir88^(talk) 02:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm sure that you had no intention to make a crystal violation, but your assertion was incorrect. The teams were guaranteed to play each other in opening round as you cited, what you got wrong was that neither team had clinched the second seed in the Atlantic, hence the note that was there. It was still possible at the time that either team could've been the second seed, that was the issue. Deadman137 (talk) 02:57, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of B (New York City Subway service)

The article B (New York City Subway service) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:B (New York City Subway service) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Truflip99 -- Truflip99 (talk) 14:42, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

March 2019 GOCE drive bling!

		The Minor Barnstar
		This barnstar is awarded to AmericanAir88 for copy edits totaling between 1 and 3,999 words (including bonus and rollover words) during the GOCE March 2019 Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! Reidgreg (talk) 19:11, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Blueberries

Portal:Blueberries, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Blueberries and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Blueberries during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 20:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Fatty acids

Portal:Fatty acids, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Fatty acids and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Fatty acids during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Fram (talk) 06:43, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Subway (restaurant)

Portal:Subway (restaurant), a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Subway (restaurant) and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Subway (restaurant) during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Fram (talk) 07:31, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

WP:AFD

An article you created or have contributed to has been nominated for deletion

Like, it's April Fools' Day today, you know?

So...

Keep

on

keepin'

	on! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:07, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: I got this notification by email and I was actually fooled by it! Thank you for this! Cheers and see you on the wiki! AmericanAir88^(talk) 01:05, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, it worked this time around! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:11, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Any tasks for me to do? I am glad to help. Just got to finish battling for Portal:American Airlines first AmericanAir88^(talk) 01:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I thought about this before, and may get back to you with some ideas for collaboration. A different way of going about it would be for you to consider articles that we would likely have a common interest in topically, and list them here. Then we can pick 'n choose. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:15, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: What are some topics you enjoy? I know food and drink, but what else? AmericanAir88^(talk) 01:16, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Incomplete cuisine articles, unique/unusual foods and dishes, airport articles and lists, geography articles. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: I will try and find some articles that may need collaboration work. We can work together to find. Looking forward to it. AmericanAir88^(talk) 01:20, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Hey, cool. I've watchlisted your page. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:22, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Thanks. Which page? This one? AmericanAir88^(talk) 01:24, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes. However, pinging is fine too, and I typically respond a lot quicker to pings. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 01:26, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Articles

St. Louis Lambert International Airport - Lists and citations

This is a a large article, not sure where to start! North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Pleasantly surprised that this article gets a large number of page views, 13,097 between 3/7/2019–4/6/2019 (thirty days). North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 19:59, 8 April 2019 (UTC)

List of syrups – We discussed this before. Just a note that I have pretty much completed this one. I will need a bit more time to add to this Articles list, but plan on doing so. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:06, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
List of water parks – Another one we discussed before: I added sources and performed various copy editing. Check out its Revision history. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:13, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Cue stick – Would benefit from the addition of more reliable sources to verify content. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 10:32, 5 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of Top Gun (film series) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Top Gun (film series) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Top Gun (film series) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. BilCat (talk) 21:49, 11 April 2019 (UTC)

Portal:Bananas

@AmericanAir88: I suggest that you add Template:Banana cultivars and Template:Banana production to Portal:Bananas. If you don't this portal will be nominated for deletion by someone, since apparently they want portals to be connected to more then one template.Catfurball (talk) 18:49, 15 April 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of 17 portals for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether 17 portals which you created are suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether they should be deleted.

The pages will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/17 single-navbox automated portals until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the pages during the discussion, including to improve the pages to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notices from the top of the pages. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:42, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:National Hockey League

Portal:National Hockey League, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:National Hockey League and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:National Hockey League during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 16:28, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

MfD nomination of Portal:Bananas

Portal:Bananas, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Bananas and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Bananas during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Legacypac (talk) 16:58, 22 April 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Portals update #031, 01 May 2019

Back to the drawing board

Implementation of the new portal design has been culled back almost completely, and the cull is still ongoing. The cull has also affected portals that existed before the development of the automated design.

Some of the reasons for the purge are:

Portals receive insufficient traffic, making it a waste of editor resources to maintain them, especially for narrow-scope or "micro" portals
The default {{bpsp}} portals are redundant with the corresponding articles, being based primarily on the corresponding navigation footer displayed on each of those articles, and therefore not worth separate pages to do so
They were mass created

Most of the deletions have been made without prejudice to recreation of curated portals, so that approval does not need to be sought at Deletion Review in those cases.

In addition to new portals being deleted, most of the portals that were converted to an automated design have been reverted.

Which puts us back to portals with manually selected content, that need to be maintained by hand, for the most part, for the time being, and back facing some of the same problems we had when we were at this crossroads before:

Manually maintained portals are not scalable (they are labor intensive, and there aren't very many editors available to maintain them)
The builders/maintainers tend to eventually abandon them
Untended handcrafted portals go stale and fall into disrepair over time

These and other concepts require further discussion. See you at WT:POG.

However, after the purge/reversion is completed, some of the single-page portals might be left, due to having acceptable characteristics (their design varied some). If so, then those could possibly be used as a model to convert and/or build more, after the discussions on portal creation and design guidelines have reached a community consensus on what is and is not acceptable for a portal.

See you at WT:POG.

Curation

A major theme in the deletion discussions was the need for portals to be curated, that is, each one having a dedicated maintainer.

There are currently around 100 curated portals. Based on the predominant reasoning at MfD, it seems likely that all the other portals may be subject to deletion.

See you at WT:POG.

Traffic

An observation and argument that arose again and again during the WP:ENDPORTALS RfC and the ongoing deletion drive of {{bpsp}} default portals, was that portals simply do not get much traffic. Typically, they get a tiny fraction of what the corresponding like-titled articles get.

And while this isn't generally considered a good rationale for creation or deletion of articles, portals are not articles, and portal critics insist that traffic is a key factor in the utility of portals.

The implication is that portals won't be seen much, so wouldn't it be better to develop pages that are?

And since such development isn't limited to editing, almost anything is possible. If we can't bring readers to portals, we could bring portal features, or even better features, to the readers (i.e., to articles)...

Some potential future directions of development

Quantum portals?

An approach that has received some brainstorming is "quantum portals", meaning portals generated on-the-fly and presented directly on the view screen without any saved portal pages. This could be done by script or as a MediaWiki program feature, but would initially be done by script. The main benefits of this is that it would be opt-in (only those who wanted it would install it), and the resultant generated pages wouldn't be saved, so that there wouldn't be anything to maintain except the script itself.

Non-portal integrated components

Another approach would be to focus on implementing specific features independently, and provide them somewhere highly visible in a non-portal presentation context (that is, on a page that wasn't a portal that has lots of traffic, i.e., articles). Such as inserted directly into an article's HTML, as a pop-up there, or as a temporary page. There are scripts that use these approaches (providing unrelated features), and so these approaches have been proven to be feasible.

What kind of features could this be done with?

The various components of the automated portal design are transcluded excerpts, news, did you know, image slideshows, excerpt slideshows, and so on.

Some of the features, such as navigation footers and links to sister projects are already included on article pages. And some already have interface counterparts (such as image slideshows). Some of the rest may be able to be integrated directly via script, but may need further development before they are perfected. Fortunately, scripts are used on an opt-in basis, and therefore wouldn't affect readers-in-general and editors-at-large during the development process (except for those who wanted to be beta testers and installed the scripts).

The development of such scripts falls under the scope of the Javascript-WikiProject/Userscript-department, and will likely be listed on Wikipedia:User scripts/List when completed enough for beta-testing. Be sure to watchlist that page.

Where would that leave curated portals?

Being curated. At least for the time being.

New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow). Future features could also overlap portal features, until there is nothing that portals provide that isn't provided elsewhere or as part of Wikipedia's interface.

But, that may be a ways off. Perhaps months or years. It depends on how rapidly programmers develop them.

Keep on keepin' on

The features of Wikipedia and its articles will continue to evolve, even if Portals go by the wayside. Most, if not all of portals' functionality, or functions very similar, will likely be made available in some form or other.

And who knows what else?

No worries.

Until next issue... — The Transhumanist 00:14, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

Wanna hang?

Hey there AA!

Considering we are both in Connecticut and I know there are a few other cool users out there in this state as well, would you want to have an informal meetup? Coffee or something in New Haven would probably work best, I'd imagine. Would that be something you would be up to?

Kindest Regards, –MJL ‐Talk‐^☖ 04:29, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

@MJL: I will have to consider it as I am quite busy this month. I'll get back to you. AmericanAir88^(talk) 13:22, 4 May 2019 (UTC)

Center for Global Studies at Brien McMahon High School

Good catch. In the future if you find something similar, it's perfectly acceptable to just BOLDly redirect it and apply Template:r from school to it. Similar articles are created with enough frequency that WP:WPSCH actually has a process for them. Generally it's articles on lower schools, which would be redirected to the school district, but the same process applies here. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 09:30, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

Takin' it easy

Looks like you're taking it easy, which is the thing to do sometimes. You mentioned before about working together. One matter is that you can continue to help maintain Wikipedia:Cleanup as you've done in the past. For example, I typically archive completed entries (e.g. struck and marked as "done" or "fixed") two to three weeks after the denotation of having being fixed is present. This helps keep the page in order, clean, and easier to read and navigate. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 05:49, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Hello, thank you for checking in. I am actually experiencing some stress per my userpage, but I am gradually getting back to the swing of things. Very soon I will be back fully. I will of course help with cleanup. Any other articles you need help on? Thank you AmericanAir88^(talk) 11:49, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for pinging. I'm cleaning out my watchlist, and have removed many user names, so ping at will. Don't really need any assistance on anything right now. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 12:53, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: Thank you. Please don't clear me from your watch list. I am coming back. If you need any help just ask. AmericanAir88^(talk) 13:45, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.18

Hello AmericanAir88,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

Niharika Kohli, a product manager for the growth team, announced that work is underway in implementing improvements to New Page Patrol as part of the 2019 Community Wishlist and suggests all who are interested watch the project page on meta. Two requested improvements have already been completed. These are:

Allow filtering by no citations in page curation
Not having CSD and PRODs automatically marked as reviewed, reflecting current consensus among reviewers and current Twinkle functionality.

Reliable Sources for NPP

Rosguill has been compiling a list of reliable sources across countries and industries that can be used by new page patrollers to help judge whether an article topic is notable or not. At this point further discussion is needed about if and how this list should be used. Please consider joining the discussion about how this potentially valuable resource should be developed and used.

Backlog drive coming soon

Look for information on the an upcoming backlog drive in our next newsletter. If you'd like to help plan this drive, join in the discussion on the New Page Patrol talk page.

News

Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.

Discussions of interest

A request for bot approval for a bot to patrol two kinds of redirects
There has been a lot discussion about Notability of Academics
What, if anything, would a SNG for Softball look like

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New article

juice, created by Catfurball North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:33, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

@Northamerica1000: I have done some expanding and copy editing, but this article needs a ton of work. The medical section especially as it gives claims that are either unsourced or are based on SPS's. The sentence starts are also in need of work as well. AmericanAir88^(talk) 13:37, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of BMT Broadway Line

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article BMT Broadway Line you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of StudiesWorld -- StudiesWorld (talk) 10:20, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of BMT Broadway Line

The article BMT Broadway Line you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:BMT Broadway Line for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of StudiesWorld -- StudiesWorld (talk) 11:00, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

"http://" in website parameter

Hi AmericanAir88. I see you've been cleaning up URLs in references that don't have the "http://" prefix. However, it looks like you're also inadvertently adding the prefix to any URLs in the website parameter, which causes an error to be generated in the reference. I reverted those changes at Shortridge High School, but there may be others. I just wanted to let you know; perhaps there's a way for the tool you're using to ignore the URLs in the website parameter. Thank you for efforts. Indyguy (talk) 15:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

@Indyguy: For the most part, I think it worked. I tried to ensure that that would not be the case. I'll take a look. AmericanAir88^(talk) 16:42, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of BMT Broadway Line

The article BMT Broadway Line you nominated as a good article has failed ; see Talk:BMT Broadway Line for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of the article. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of StudiesWorld -- StudiesWorld (talk) 17:41, 6 June 2019 (UTC)

Nomination of 2019 New York City helicopter crash for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article 2019 New York City helicopter crash is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2019 New York City helicopter crash until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. ...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 18:46, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

Pineapple juice

@AmericanAir88: You are invited to vote on Pineapple juice.Catfurball (talk) 19:02, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

David Van

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

Please do a search for sources before tagging articles for {{db-a7}}. David Van is mentioned in multiple news sources as being confirmed as a senator in Victoria, Australia. User:Ritchie333/Plain and simple guide to A7 even states "A senator is probably not an A7". Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 17:29, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: My apologies! I deserve the trout. The article was in a very spam, copy-vio, COI-ish format. It was very impulsive of me. Thanks for putting me in check!. AmericanAir88^(talk) 18:22, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Are you going to restore the article now that you realise it is genuine, that the guy is a senator, that it fills a missing link in https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Senators_from_Victoria ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Garthgrenache (talk • contribs) 01:05, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of C (New York City Subway service)

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Your GA nomination of C (New York City Subway service)

The article C (New York City Subway service) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:C (New York City Subway service) for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of StudiesWorld -- StudiesWorld (talk) 22:01, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of C (New York City Subway service)

The article C (New York City Subway service) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:C (New York City Subway service) for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of StudiesWorld -- StudiesWorld (talk) 15:41, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@StudiesWorld: Thank you! AmericanAir88^(talk) 15:46, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

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New Page Review newsletter July-August 2019

Hello AmericanAir88,

WMF at work on NPP Improvements

More new features are being added to the feed, including the important red alert for previously deleted pages. This will only work if it is selected in your filters. Best is to 'select all'. Do take a moment to check out all the new features if you have not already done so. If anything is not working as it should, please let us know at NPR. There is now also a live queue of AfC submissions in the New Pages Feed. Feel free to review AfCs, but bear in mind that NPP is an official process and policy and is more important.

QUALITY of REVIEWING

Articles are still not always being checked thoroughly enough. If you are not sure what to do, leave the article for a more experienced reviewer. Please be on the alert for any incongruities in patrolling and help your colleagues where possible; report patrollers and autopatrolled article creators who are ostensibly undeclared paid editors. The displayed ORES alerts offer a greater 'at-a-glance' overview, but the new challenges in detecting unwanted new content and sub-standard reviewing do not necessarily make patrolling any easier, nevertheless the work may have a renewed interest factor of a different kind. A vibrant community of reviewers is always ready to help at NPR.

Backlog

The backlog is still far too high at between 7,000 and 8,000. Of around 700 user rights holders, 80% of the reviewing is being done by just TWO users. In the light of more and more subtle advertising and undeclared paid editing, New Page Reviewing is becoming more critical than ever.

Move to draft

NPR is triage, it is not a clean up clinic. This move feature is not limited to bios so you may have to slightly re-edit the text in the template before you save the move. Anything that is not fit for mainspace but which might have some promise can be draftified - particularly very poor English and machine and other low quality translations.

Notifying users

Remember to use the message feature if you are just tagging an article for maintenance rather than deletion. Otherwise articles are likely to remain perma-tagged. Many creators are SPA and have no intention of returning to Wikipedia. Use the feature too for leaving a friendly note note for the author of a first article you found well made or interesting. Many have told us they find such comments particularly welcoming and encouraging.

PERM

Admins are now taking advantage of the new time-limited user rights feature. If you have recently been accorded NPR, do check your user rights to see if this affects you. Depending on your user account preferences, you may receive automated notifications of your rights changes. Requests for permissions are not mini-RfAs. Helpful comments are welcome if absolutely necessary, but the bot does a lot of the work and the final decision is reserved for admins who do thorough research anyway.

Other news

School and academic holidays will begin soon in various places around the Western world. Be on the lookout for the usual increase in hoax, attack, and other junk pages.

Our next newsletter might be announcing details of a possible election for co-ordinators of NPR. If you think you have what it takes to micro manage NPR, take a look at New Page Review Coordinators - it's a job that requires a lot of time and dedication.

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