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Your DYK nomination for Gore (surveying) was successful

Did you know? was updated. On December 31, 2006, a fact from the article Gore (surveying), which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 02:34, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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Would you sound off on this: Talk:DekiWiki, thanks. Oh and thanks for the MN Project invite too. ~ AaronF 00:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Prospect Park (Brooklyn) NHRP Info Box

Nice box, but where did the 1917 build/founded date come from? Corrected it, based on the Brooklyn Eagle coverage of the park's first day of operation, Saturday, October 19, 1867. What did occur in Prospect Park in 1917 was the unveiling of the monument to La Fayette, May, 1917 (Covered in the Sunday Supplement to the NY Times, May 20 1917. Available at Library of Congress Search on "Prospect Park, Brooklyn"). This is at the 9th Street and Prospect Park West entrance to the park. Is that a source of confusion? Gosgood 10:04, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I got your note, thank you for your quick reply, and thank you for the info box! 1865 was when Calvert Vaux and Frederick Law Olmsted were engaged as architects, (February 4, 1865, to be insufferably exact). Vaux had been asked by the prime political mover behind the park, James S. T. Stranahan, to review and revise earlier plans that had been proposed and approved prior to the American Civil War, but were never enacted because of the impact of the war on the city manpower and budget. Once the revised plan was approved and Olmsted was engaged, work began in earnest in June 1866. It was opened to the public (still in a very incomplete state) in October, 1867, and was still being worked on in 1873, when the financial panic of 1873 sort of stopped everything for the next decade or so. During their seven year stewardship, Vaux tended to design the structures, while Olmsted managed the work force and sculpted the overall lay of the land, hence the notion that he is the 'founder' of American landscape architects. In light of that, I'd also like to add Olmsted to the list of park architects in the info box. If info box logic demands that it must be one, Vaux is the better choice, in my opinion, but there are Prospect Park fanatics who would dispute this. As for 1917, the year is not an especially significant for park architecture: the world war pretty much caused the NYC parks department to grind to a halt. The memorial to Lafayette was mainly politically significant. Henry Harteau, a French American and former City of Brooklyn park commissioner, had been a major fund raiser for the memorial, and in May 1917, British and French notables were in New York City to drum up American support for the war: a photo-op ensued. The next significant period of park reconstruction was when Robert Moses became New York City Park Commissioner in 1934. Moses was successful in getting a great deal of Works Progress Administration funding for playgrounds, band shells, and zoos, and "cleaning up" old stuff that was not old enough yet to be architecturally significant. Many of Calvert Vaux's best works were "cleaned up" out of existence in this era. I'm probably straying off topic now, so I'll end by saying, thanks again for the info box. Gosgood 15:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Minnesota - List of people

Ah, I see it now, its little, and I need new glasses.  :) Thanks for the kind reply. Have a great day! Cricket02 20:23, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, White Castle Building No. 8, was selected for DYK!

On January 18, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article White Castle Building No. 8, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 15:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, congrats. Nice article. Jonathunder 15:27, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Discussion about Congress

Would you be so kind as to go here and weigh in on the discussion? Thanks --Appraiser 15:37, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Conditioned Reinforcer

Is it all legal eagle now? conditioned reinforcer BPBomber 20:01, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks!!

Birmingham Bridge

Please be sure when adding information to articles that you are adding information about the article's subject and not something else with the same name. Thanks, Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:06, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

mnclink template

Just an fyi - It would have been just as easy to use a pipe trick such as Bloomington - written out as

[[Bloomington (MN)|]]

(which would ideally redirect to Bloomington, Minnesota). I just thought I'd let you know for future reference :) • master_son^{Lets talk} 00:32, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Lumber Exchange Building, was selected for DYK!

On February 5, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Lumber Exchange Building, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 21:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Good work. It's a nice article about a building I've always admired. Jonathunder 21:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Climate of Minnesota

Thanks for your addition of the In popular culture section. Based on one of the comments in the FA feedback I stared another paragraph about this topic in film on the talk page. Please improve this if you can, thanks! Gopher backer 16:05, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

That's a good question, I'm not really sure. If you search around for references, most of what you find on the film are reviews. Since movie reviews are usually people's opinions, I doubt that a FA reviewer would consider them legitimate references. I'll keep searching to see what I can find. Gopher backer 20:54, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Bloomington rules!

Hey mate! I live in Bloomington, MN and I appreciate your contributions to MN related things! Oh, and White Castle is easily my favorite fast food chain. NIRVANA2764 22:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Cadillac Hotel

Thanks for the pic! When'd you take it, datewise? I created that stub not too long ago, since it got added to the NRHP relatively recently. Might you have more such Florida images, perchance? :) --Ebyabe 17:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Mountain Biking on Mount Tamalpais

Hello, An article that I created as a part of Wikiproject Cycling called Mountain Biking on Mount Tamalpais and linked to the Mount Tamalpais article, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mountain Biking on Mount Tamalpais. Thank you, Bob in Las Vegas -  uriel8  (talk) 09:40, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for commenting and showing your Mountain biking in British Columbia article. I put up the mountain biking information on the Mount Tamalpais article a couple of months ago. It took me about 5 years to learn a lot about that sport and the thrilling rides even an intermediate can take. I used to do it every other day when I was in Marin Co. and finally got a cool bike that let me push the limits even tho I'm older.

Looks like the votes are coming up now a lot for the branch article. To me it seems like a good use for a content fork out of Mt. Tam to an article that tells you what you want to know, i.e., "where do we go this afternoon to recreate on Mt. Tam, and experience the mountain as what it is, not a lump of rock?" Also, people can contribute to the detailed article. That should be on Wikipedia: if you just want 2 dry paragraphs about the flora and fauna you'd buy Britannica or Encarta. Bob in vegas  uriel8  (talk) 00:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

History of Minnesota

I have posted a proposed revision of the introduction to your excellent article at Talk:History_of_Minnesota#Introduction. I did it in an effort to address a few of the recent comments on the FA nomination. I have not (yet) changed the article itself; I wanted feedback before doing that. Kablammo 20:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

The article is shaping up nicely. Do you think a mention of the Red River trail would be useful? Before the railroads it was the route from the head of navigation on the Mississippi to western Canada. Surprisingly it is not mentioned in Wikipedia that I can find, except in Red River ox cart. Kablammo 03:29, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the note. I thought one area that could be mentioned more in the article was the state's historic role as a transportation center. The Twin Cities are the head of practical navigation on the Mississippi, and first the trail, and then the two railroads were the overland way to the Northwest. I don't think I'll do a separate article on the trail-- what little I know of it is in these messages. Kablammo 13:42, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the article-- it is both well-written and comprehensive. The trail was more important than I thought. If I ever get back to editing Transportation in Minnesota I'll use it. Most primary corridors have their origins in pioneer days and the trail seems to be one of the earliest, if not the earliest land routes. Kablammo 00:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for cleaning up my talk page.

Thank you for cleaning up the diatribe left by I AM THE FIRSTLORD GEKKO, a sad case. Wikipedia seems to attract such, however; they feel the need to make a mark somewhere. Thank you too, for compiling the list on the footprints left by Frederick Law Olmsted. Hopefully, I'll resume article writing soon, rather than administriva such as speedy delete recommendations of articles on oddball religions or eighteen year old star high school athletes. Take care and thank you again for watching my back yard. Gosgood 14:37, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Illinois Historic Places

I was told that you do a lot of editing of Illinois Registered Historic Places. We have just started a very rough list here Wikipedia:WikiProject Illinois/Historic Places, so if anytime you are wondering what is going on, there it is. Thanks for any help with Illinois articles!--Kranar drogin 03:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Hudson12

Good catch. I spotted the other one I did too, guess I'm losing my marbles. --pgk 20:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Height of Land Portage

There appear to be two of these in Minnesota in the national register system. The article is on the one in Cook County. I have revised the infobox you added. Thanks. Kablammo 08:47, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Elkman, I am now finished with this article (famous last words). I see you have rated it as "Start class" and "Low importance"; I agree with the latter, but I think it is beyond "start" class now. As the contributor I'll leave the assessment to you and others.

An article on the St. Louis County portage would appropriate but there seems to be very little available on the web (except for a paragraph in a 700+ page .pdf from St. Louis County) so it may be a while before one is created. Thanks for the link to the NRHP submission; you see that I have used it. Kablammo 22:33, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

CHICOTW

	Chicago Collaboration of the Week
Last week you helped edit the Chicago COTW, but did not vote. Thank you for your help! Your input in future selections would also be appreciated. This week Chicago Theatre has been chosen. Please help improve it towards the quality level of a Wikipedia featured article. See the To Do List to suggest a change or to see an open tasks list.
	Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago

TonyTheTiger 02:46, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help

Thank you for adding the infobox and generally spiffing up the article on the Bardavon 1869 Opera House‎. I am so grateful. I grew up near Poughkeepsie and remember well the crisis period when it was nearly torn down. it's a fine old venue and I wanted to do it justice. Your edits were ever so helpful. Again, thanks. Lisapollison 23:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

THANK YOUF OR ALL OF YOU HELP WITH EMPREROS' NEW GROOVE SI DONT KNOW THAT THER E WAS ALREADY AND ATICLE BECAUSE WHEN WE I CHECKED IT WAS NOT THERE. GOOD JOB ON CREAITNG ONE SO QUICKLY THERE. AEWSOME JOB!!!!!! Smith Jones 01:00, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:MNLicensePlate2.jpg

Thank you for uploading Image:MNLicensePlate2.jpg. However, it currently is missing information on its copyright status. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously. It may be deleted soon, unless we can determine the license and the source of the image. If you know this information, then you can add a copyright tag to the image description page.

If you have any questions, please feel free to ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thanks again for your cooperation. ccwaters 19:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

On 10 March, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Portland Brownstone Quarries, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 01:11, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

New NRHP Collaboration Division

Hey, saw you were a participant in the National Register of Historic Places WikiProject. I thought I would let you know that there is a new Collaboration Division up for the project. The goal of the division is to select an article or articles for improvement to Good article standard or higher. There is a simple nomination process, which you can check out on the division subpage, to make sure each candidate for collaboration has enough interested editors. This is a good way to get a lot of articles to a quality status quickly. Please consider participating. More details can be seen at the division subpage. IvoShandor 11:06, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Eliza Winston

Eliza Winston is an orphan article. Can you think of someplace that could link to it?--Appraiser 11:27, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: Recent change to {{AFC preload}}

Ack, my mistake. It should be fixed, now, thanks for bringing that to my attention. I've worked with a few preload templates, before, but unfortunately the experience wasn't as comprehensive as I apparently thought. This'll serve as a reminder for myself, to be more careful in the future. – Luna Santin (talk) 21:03, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Note about speedy delete

Okay, I'll remember that. Thanks! Jinxmchue 21:07, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Thorneycroft

Hi! I saw your edit to Thorneycroft's user talk. As a follow-up I just wanted to notify you of his response, which was, well, overly hot-blooded. Punkmorten 13:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

History of Minnesota

Congratulations on achieving FA status! Your knowledge and perseverance has paid off in an excellent article. Kablammo 17:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Grats indeed, no small feat! What's next? -Ravedave 19:13, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Cities

Elkman-- I saw your changes here. I think Minnesota cities are charted by the state, so they are not subdivisions of counties, even though they are within and geographically part of one or more counties. I'm not sure that makes a difference, or if cities in other states are established or chartered by the counties rather than the state. Kablammo 01:42, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Appreciate your comment

I appreciate you welcoming me to Wikipedia; browsing around here is my favorite way to spend time I should be working. I've noticed a lot of the Minnesota highway related articles haven't been improved for a long time, so I thought I could help out a little. I think I've figured out how this works by looking at other articles, but the link to the style guide should be especially useful when figuring how to format things. I am the author of the North Star Highways site, but am not actively improving it right now since I am out of storage space Mdcastle 02:27, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Locating a landmark

Hello, Elkman. You seem to be the person most likely to know. Do you have any idea where to find Our Lady of Lourdes in a Web site that would establish that it is a National Historic Landmark? The Minnesota Historical Society lists it, but the federal databases that I checked don't find either First Universalist Church or the newer name. Nor does Wikipedia list show it. Could it be tied to the historic district? -Susanlesch 05:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Hey folks. It appears this is what's known as a contributing property to the St. Anthony Falls Historic District. Essentially, it's one of the buildings in the district that makes it an historic district. Sometimes individual properties within a district are listed separately on the National Register, but most aren't. It always bugs me when I see a plaque on a building saying it's listed on the Register when it's actually part of a district. Believe me, I've seen it more than once. Anyhoo, hope this info helps. :) --Ebyabe 14:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

I think Ebyabe is right. The building itself isn't listed individually, so it must be a contributing property. (It's kind of a shame, because I think it could very easily qualify for National Register nomination on its own.) Here are a couple resources that could help:

• List of National Historic Landmarks in Minnesota, part of the National Historic Landmarks Program
• I think you already found the National Register Information System and the list of properties within the St. Anthony Falls Historic District.
• As far as books go, I want to buy the AIA Guide to the Twin Cities as soon as it comes out. I already have National Register of Historic Places in Minnesota, a listing of all the NRHP properties in Minnesota, and Minnesota Treasures, which has stories about 75 historic structures and places on the National Register.

I hope this helps. By the way, I'm planning to work on History of Minneapolis, Minnesota as my next project, so if you have any ideas as to what should be covered, let me know, or put them on the talk page of the article. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Thanks a lot, yes I think the Minneapolis Public Library history says the church was a landmark on its own in 1934 (and the Dept. of the Interior survey drawings at the LOC are dated 1934). As it stands the CP designation is enough to justify the NRHP infobox it deserves, thanks very much. Elkman, that is fantastically good news that the Minneapolis History article is in your hands. Yessir I will let you know if I run into any topics for it. Best wishes. -Susanlesch 20:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Books

Since you are rapidly becoming the MN history guy around here... Have any books that mention Camp Coldwater? Right now the intro says its the oldest settlement in MN, but it should really have a ref to make suhc a bold claim. -Ravedave 04:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

The Century

Per your question on DYK:

My guess is the same as your guess. It seems that The Majestic and The Century were both among the earliest Art Deco residential structures on Central Park West and probably because it was coming into style. The building at 55 Central Park West holds the actual title of "first Art Deco" building on the street, but it is nowhere near as large as the other two. If your interested in the topic I could use a hand filling out the red links on List of properties (Central Park West Historic District), which one day may actually be good enough to go for Featured List. You can also check out my recently compiled Central Park West Historic District, where any ideas and comments would be most helpful.

As a somewhat interesting aside, you may know that I do a lot of NRHP articles but usually for Illinois (with some dabbling here and there). I decided to beef up the article about my user namesake, Ivo Shandor and through it came to information about 55 Central Park West which I followed to its completion, linked above. My first thought was, hmmm, bet its a historic district (which is up for Good article btw). That's all for now, hope to see ya at Central Park West.

IvoShandor 12:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

DYK

Copied from another talk page for an edit that made a big difference. Thanks, Elkman.

On 6 April, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church (Minneapolis, Minnesota), which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of ZIP Codes in Oklahoma

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History of Minneapolis

Elkman, I think your article looks wonderful. And there's still room to add more, so no I don't think it is too verbose. A few facts are in mild disagreement with the Minneapolis article but not so much that I even took notes on them. Two questions I did write down.

• Was Minnehaha Falls, Creek and Park named for Song of Hiawatha or the other way around?
• For some reason rail service between Minneapolis and Chicago seemed significant (in the MPL history). It seemed to coincide with incorporation. But maybe it was not so important?

-Susanlesch 00:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

• It looks good! I also think the level of detail is about right, but it's likely that the 20th and 21st century items will take up less space. Whenever an existing article covers the subject, let that article carry as much of the detail as possible. We ought to tackle History of Saint Paul, Minnesota too. --Appraiser 21:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

CBOTB GA

	Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Chicago Collaboration of the Week
Chicago Tribune is the current Chicago COTW You were a contributing editor to Chicago Board of Trade Building during its tenure as CHICOTW. It has successfully achieved Good article status thanks in part to your efforts. See its GA review and help us raise it towards the featured article classification level. Recall that during its tenure as CHICOTW we built this page from scratch. See our CHICOTW Improvement History. Note our good articles.
Contributing editors:AKeen, ChicagoPimp, Drinibot, Elkman, ILike2BeAnonymous, Shsilver, SmackBot, TheQuandry, TonyTheTiger.
	Good Article

TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:14, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on Help Desk

I went to the citation template page you referenced, but I did not see a template for Reflist. Do you know anything about {{Reflist|x}}?Lottamiata 04:31, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Never mind. I figured it out. Thanks anyway. Lottamiata 04:59, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Double Possessives

Read this [1] (the last paragraph entitled Double Possessives). Do you think ...the home of John Stevens'. is correct based on this?--Appraiser 17:39, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

MessedRocker's Contest

Hello! If you have received this message, that means you have an article entered in MessedRocker's Contest. To help stimulate the contest, the rules have been modified: the next five people who promote an article to Good Article status will win, and that's it. Get writing so you can be one of the five! —Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 10:52, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Building 470

Did you know? was updated. On 13 April, 2007, a fact from the article Building 470, which you recently nominated, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

--howcheng {chat} 20:20, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

highway help

Can you figure out what to do with these pages? They were recently created, I personally think merging with 1-35 is the way to go, but I'm not sure Red_Bull_Highway_(Minnesota), Red_Bull_Highway_(Iowa) -Ravedave 03:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

• Drive on the highways and let them give you wings? Maybe not. It looks like "Red Bull Highway" is a commemorative designation applied to I-35. Minnesota Statutes 161.14 establishes a number of commemorative designations, such as Olson Memorial Highway, Veterans Evergreen Memorial Highway, and many others. Sometimes, the commemorative designations span multiple numbered highway segments, like the Hiawatha Pioneer Trail and the Glacial Ridge Trail. (In the latter case, the statutory description looks like it's longer than the trail itself.) I'm not sure if we have a standard for listing commemorative designations that overlay state or interstate highways. I haven't checked out the highway projects in some time to see if there's a discussion about them. I don't see any real compelling reason to merge them with I-35 and US-34. In fact, I-35 outside of Minnesota isn't the Red Bull Highway, and US-34 outside of Iowa isn't the Red Bull Highway either, so a merge/redirect might imply a situation that isn't really true for the other states. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 05:44, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • woul;dnt it make sense to have all information about 35 on one page though? -Ravedave 05:57, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Chicago Landmark

I just completed the exhaustive list. Is it possible that you could add your search results from the talk page to the article page? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll see if I can get to it in the next few days. I'm a little busy this weekend, so I'm not sure if I can get to adding these right away. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 21:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

List of songs containing covert references to real musicians

You may want to weigh in at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 April 15#List of songs containing covert references to real musicians, since you were involved in a previous discussion of this article. - Jmabel | Talk 05:47, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

CHICOTW

	Chicago Collaboration of the Week
Last week you helped edit the Chicago COTW, but did not vote. Thank you for your help! Your input in future selections would also be appreciated. This week Chicago 2016 Olympic bid has been chosen. Please help improve it towards the quality level of a Wikipedia featured article. See the To Do List to suggest a change or to see an open tasks list.
	Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago

TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Question/request

I was wondering if you might be willing to help me out by providing a fresh and unaffiliated pair of eyes to the article National Register of Historic Places, current GA nom, as part of my attempt to bring it all the way from little stubby start class thing to FA. There have been some concerns raised on the current peer review page which could use some outside assistance. They include:

• Thorough copy edit for grammar, typos and most importantly flow. (I fixed one mistake provided as an example on the review page)
• The lead was confusing.
• Look for minor POV, "Most important" other unnecessary descriptors
• Get rid of redundancies, reviewer referenced this page: [[2]]

Thats about it. If you have any time to assist your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, feel free to chime in at the peer review as well. IvoShandor 04:28, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

My RfA

Hello Elkman, thank you for supporting my RfA!
I was promoted with a final tally of 68/12/0.
Also, please wish a Happy Birthday to Her Majesty the Queen. Vivat Regina!

Template

O.K. now that I have copied the code what else do I have to do to {{ChicagoWikiProject}}? Is it possible to add a photo needed parameter? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio)

I just created a whole bunch of categoreies to go with the template parameterization. I think I will be satisfied with a separate photo request tag for now since I don't understand the code. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

It seems that all subcats of Category:Chicago articles by quality are working. The various sub categories of Category:Chicago articles by importance are populating except for Category:Unknown-importance Chicago articles. I will probably only be online for another 20 minutes before I head to the gym. I will be on a bit tomorrow. I am going to try to figure this out from {{Architecture}}. It may take me some time. Any advise/help would be great. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

I'll take a look into the categories, but I don't know if I'll be able to get to them until tomorrow evening. I'm kind of busy this weekend. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 21:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for helping fix the template. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone else tried to add a needs-photo parameter. It is not working. I attempted to fix it but my attempt did not work. Can you fix it? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 15:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. let me know if you can't so I can revert my changes, which I think are very close. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 15:37, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

When I go to Talk:Pat Ryan (executive) I do not see the Category:Chicago articles needing photographs TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Hopefully, it will also show up in Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in Illinois. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:07, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

P.P.S. I am noticing the comment section is annoying. It clutters the talk page template. Can it be deactivated? Can I use the Dab, Template, Cat classes with the template? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:46, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Great work. Thank you so much. Yes. Your interpretation is correct. I would, for example, like to be able to tag all the categories at Wikipedia:WikiProject Chicago/Categories or the templates at Category:Chicago templates with a class parameter. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 21:20, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Category:Disambig-Class_Chicago_articles, Category:Category-Class Chicago articles and Category: Template-Class Chicago articles are all working with the parameters. I am having a minor problem with the Category:Disambig-Class_Chicago_articles getting them to put themselves in the proper categories though. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 17:26, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

I am wondering if a partial reactivation of Category:Chicago articles with comments is possible so that pages with comments still show up in this category, but so that the template does not show comments. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 23:49, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

I apologize if I was unclear. Having the comments show up on the talk page template is undesirable. Please revert this change. What I hope for is that the category Category:Chicago articles with comments can populate for pages with comments without the comments showing up on talk pages. This is so that we can easily figure out which pages have comments even though we don't want them showing up on talk pages. The problem with Category:Disambig-Class_Chicago_articles is that the Parent Disamb-Class has no other subcats or articles. I am trying to figure out if it is malnamed or something. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

A small link on the template is probably O.K. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 16:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Great work. Any thoughts on Category:Disambig-Class_Chicago_articles. Should it be parented by Category:Dab-Class articles, Category:Disamb-Class articles, Category:Disambig-Class articles, or Category:Disambiguation-Class articles? Should it exist? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 20:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

I have two further questions. What do you know about Needed-class articles? Is it possible to have an Image-class parameter value so that we can have an Image-class Chicago articles category. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

(Unindent) I don't have examples, but I can send you to {{Needed-Class}}. Does that help you to answer my question? WRT Image-class, is there any precedent that you might have scene elsewhere? TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 19:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Re: Hope you don't mind...

Hi, thanks for tweaking my userpage. I have noticed certain AfD participants take issue with the strangest of things. Other people's opinions are like fruit, some are lovely and juicy and full of flavour, others are best left on the shelf and overlooked ;) Mallanox 02:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Your comments on Selket's RfA

I am perplexed by your comments. I don't claim to be a GodKing, and in fact am quite clear about the fact that I am not even an administrator on the English Wikipedia, so that particular reference seems to me to be completely out of left field. A brief review of SnipingCriticism also leaves me perplexed. If you feel that my actions are "sniping", then why have you not followed the advice there? My comments are offered as, and intended as, constructive (if harsh) criticism. Quite frankly, I do not see my RfA voting patterns as meeting with the description there. Perhaps you can explain yourself more clearly. And as to your reference to CommunityExpectations, perhaps you can tell me which community expectation at Wikipedia you believe I am breaching. Making vague accusations, as you have done, without specifics, is really quite incivil, as it tarnishes another's character without providing useful advice on how to improve. I might even legitimately state that you were engaging in sniping criticism by your comments on the RfA. Perhaps you intended your comments reflexively, but if so, I would prefer that you find some other mirror.

I must also point out that I am not opposing all RfAs. In fact, I have voted neutral on as many as I have opposed, and I have even supported a few in recent days; for example, I supported Moralis, I made several comments in support of Matt Britt on his RfA, and I fully expect that I will be changing my vote on Sam Blacketer's RfA to support in the next day or so. I believe that my participation in RfA is wholly consistent with community standards. If you disagree, I suggest you make concrete, positive suggestions for change, and refrain entirely from useless and vaguely threatening accusations of misconduct.

Regards, Kelly Martin (talk) 14:35, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

• Fine. Whatever. I retract the comment, and perhaps I should mind my own (expletive deleted) business. Go ahead and apply the punitive block -- or have one of your friends apply the punitive block. Obviously I should stick to something more useful, except I'm not sure if I do anything useful around here. Who in the hell gives a flying (expletive deleted) rat's ass about some old flour mill in Minneapolis? Maybe you can tell me. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:07, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Also, I probably should shut the hell up about buildings in Chicago, since I don't live there. In fact, I've really annoyed a lot of people in Chicago (mostly from another online community I used to participate in). --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

AN/I.

Cheer up Elkman. :) Don't worry about what happened on the RfA's. Kelly Martin left a message on my talk page, and also on Pascal.Tesson's, about our asking of her opposes. Acalamari 23:45, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Forest Preserve

I reverted your edits to Forest Preserve (New York) because that article is about the land-use category within New York State that exists within both the Adirondack and Catskill state parks. It seems you really want to be adding that info to Adirondack State Park (which I should get around to properly renaming to "Adirondack Park" as it isn't a state park per se and that's what state law uses) which already has a protected areas infobox, so just put {{Registered Historic Places}} at the bottom. Daniel Case 16:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

North Star

Thank you so much! -> North Star Woolen Mill :). I was trying to find info on "North Star Blankets" and wasn't getting anywhere, knowing the right name for the building opened up all sorts of resources. I am going to try and polish the article a bit more then submit it for a DYK. I even got the sick idea of going to MNHS and looking at the docs they have, but I'll probably pass. -Ravedave 05:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Union Stock Yards GA

I believe the 3 citations by 1900 475 acres, The stockyard grew to occupy a square mile of land from 39th to 47th and from Halsted to Ashland. The stockyard saw its peak year in 1924 and then a gradual decline started. . . and At one time sprawling over 475 acres are not really at odds and are an example of historical reporting from various sources. I added one word for clarity to reduce any confusion. In summary, it was 475 acres in 1900 and it peaked in 1924 at over 475 and nearly a square mile. No contradiction. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 18:35, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

National Historic Site infobox

Hi Elkman. I find the infobox to be more unattractive than it is useful. Couldn't this same information be incorporated into the article, or photo caption, without this giant jangling intrusion? I find it really visualy harsh. Thank you for listening. Jim 15:49, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

• I removed the infobox. --Elkman ^(Elkspeak) 15:51, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Chin up, Elkman!

Kelly's a little offensive, but you've been given the kid gloves as far as the wrath of her tongue's concerned. You've not been told you defile talk pages with your very presence, so you're one up on me.

Though Kelly's comments about supporting RFA candidates is not entirely without bias. She has supported a few recently, that's true. I think you'll find, however, that in most of those cases it has been after entering a decision of Neutral until someone pointed out new information to her. Cheers, Lankybugger ○ Yell ○ 19:38, 28 April 2007 (UTC)