Draft talk:Caleb Maupin

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I put construction tags for a reason. I wasn't done. Uhtregorn (talk) 00:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Okay, but the article wasn't, and still isn't, ready. That's what drafts are for.
 * You will need much, much better sources, and you will need to summarize what those sources are actually saying. The current article fails to do that. That's a very big problem, especially for a WP:BLP.
 * Since the last time the article was deleted in 2020, I'm seeing only a few of new sources, and none of them seem strong enough.
 * One recent source is this one from last year which, to put it bluntly, seem to strongly imply that Maupin is a Russian State actor working to recruit sympathetic "influencers" to play-act at being election experts.
 * There are also the two opinions from the Communist Party USA.:
 * Wokeness and the struggle for Black liberation says this: ...The Philly Young Communist League wholly rejects the reactionary ideas of anti-woke “Marxists” such as Caleb Maupin and his CPI or Haz and his Infrared following. We honor the legacy and contributions of past Communist leaders such as William Z. Foster and Claudia Jones in our analysis of class struggle and politicized identities. - That is the only mention of Maupin in the source. It doesn't mention anything about his work on "police brutality to the evils of capitalism", nor would this source be usable to demonstrate notability.
 * Signaling left, turning right: The “radicals” rebranding populism on the other hand is much more in-depth, but again, if you're going to cite these sources, don't cherry-pick them for the blandest or most flattering details. Look at what the source is actually saying, not just what you wish it was saying. Grayfell (talk) 06:55, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Grayfell has explained in far more detail than I would take the time to. This topic is likely non-notable, which means that no amount of good writing can make it appropriate for an article on Wikipedia, and if it has become notable since the 2020 AfD then the new sources here certainly don't evidence that. — Bilorv ( talk ) 11:00, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

September 2023 updates
While I am not disputing that this page likely still has more progress for it to go mainspace, I removed a few paragraphs that had been added to the draft. They were rather POV additions, added by a user now blocked for sock puppetry, using unreliable or no sources. Uhtregorn (talk) 21:35, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Neither of those cited sources are appropriate for a WP:BLP, at least, not by themselves. If the Center for Political Innovation is going to be mentioned, than it would be incomplete to not mention that it also dissolved itself, and readers would also reasonably want to know why they did that. This is all a strong indication that the article will need much better sources before being published. Grayfell (talk) 22:42, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Unreliable sources


SocDoneLeft (talk) 20:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)

Source evaluation
SocDoneLeft (talk) 19:47, 29 January 2024 (UTC)

Sources removed
Maupin identified as a Marxist-Leninist.

where Maupin praised Dugin's writings.

RT profile

Maupin worked for RT

In 2020, Maupin founded the Center for Political Innovation (CPIUSA),

which sought to "bring together" the "left and the right" to oppose war

In 2023, the Chinese Communist Party outlet Global Times interviewed Maupin and described CPIUSA as an American anti-war organization.

Speakers at CPIUSA events include Jackson Hinkle, Max Blumenthal, George Galloway, Joti Brar of the Communist Party of Great Britain (Marxist-Leninist) and Kalambayi Andenet of the African People's Socialist Party.

SocDoneLeft (talk) 21:01, 29 January 2024 (UTC)