Talk:Ali Qapu

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Requested move 26 June 2022

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move as proposed. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 20:33, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

– Per WP:COMMONNAME; English language sources don't use the diacritics in this case. Example from UNESCO's website: "The pavilion of Ali Qapu on the west side forms the monumental entrance to the palatial zone and to the royal gardens which extend behind it." This argument can be further supported by WP:TITLECON; Ali Qapu Gate, Qazvin, and Ali Qapu, Ardabil are two examples where the very same name has been transliterated without the diacritics. It seems that the diacritics were added to distinguish it from the disambiguation page Ali Qapu, which I suggest be moved to Ali Qapu (disambiguation) (as it's already a redirect to that page).&#32; Keivan.f  Talk 08:26, 26 June 2022 (UTC) — Relisting. >>>  Extorc . talk  13:22, 3 July 2022 (UTC)  — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:22, 12 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Ālī Qāpū → Ali Qapu
 * Ali Qapu → Ali Qapu (disambiguation)
 * Converted from a technical request (permalink). – Uanfala (talk) 20:51, 26 June 2022 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * Support. Judging from the pageviews, this appears to be primary topic, while a very quick look at Google Books results suggests that the spelling without the diacritics is indeed more common. – Uanfala (talk) 20:55, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak Support Support removal of the diacritics.  But wondering why "palace" is missing from the title when our box and description identify it as "Ali Qapu Palace", as do practically all tourist sites. Walrasiad (talk) 02:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Relister comment Relisting one more time due to an additional suggestion to add the word "Palace" into the name that came late in the discussion. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 05:23, 12 July 2022 (UTC)

Wiki Education assignment: Piety, Power, and Propaganda. Art and Architectural History of the Islamic
— Assignment last updated by TiaIvy (talk) 23:53, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Building classification
The bibliography + UNESCO listing + single good ref here about the structure in general (the other one is a noncredible blog about coins) state the structure to be a gate/monumental entrance to the larger Safavid palace complex/district. This is clearly mentioned twice in the first two paragraphs, but the article calls it an "imperial palace" in the first sentence and nearly goes out of its way to call it a "palace" and "imperial residence" everywhere else, including the infobox. Since it is, apparently, a very large gate with rooms in it, it should be described as such and not mentioned as a palace in itself. The Safavid palace complex itself strangely does not have an article, but that is a separate issue. PhilosophicalSomething (talk) 01:17, 26 April 2024 (UTC)