Talk:Anthony Braxton

Various things
(1) does this REALLY need a disambiguation from Toni Braxton? (2) When did Braxton play with Pat Metheny? ND 17:17, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Just found the info on Metheny: a 1981 jam at Woodstock. -- I must confess that that this minor, off-the-cuff encounter doesn't seem to merit listing here to me, but what the hell. ND 17:20, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Composer project review
I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles. This article is more aptly termed a C-class article (not used by the project); it is missing notable biographic background: his formative years. My full review is on the comments page; questions and comments should be left here or on my talk page. Article is Start-class.  Magic ♪piano 00:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

ECM artist?
He appears on three ECM records: Circle: Paris Concert, Marion Brown: Afternoon of a Georgia Faun, Dave Holland Quartet: Conference of the Birds. Is that enough for Category:ECM artists? BNutzer (talk) 23:22, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably, yes. I only knew about the Conference of the Birds one.  I'm not sure because he's only a sideman on all three of those. Don't listen to me. --Richardrj talkemail 00:19, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Re-added Category:ECM artists. Started a thread Talk:ECM (record label). BNutzer (talk) 11:33, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Separate Wiki
It's my opinion, though it may not be very relevant, that Anthony needs his own wiki. There is a vast plethora of information available about him and to put it all in his Wikipedia page would be a waste. 75.187.186.52 (talk) 08:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Why would it be a waste? This is by far the most popular wiki on the internet.  Anyone wanting information on Braxton will naturally come here rather than some other place.  If you have lots of information on him, this is the place to put it. --Richardrj talkemail 08:31, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Assessment comment
Substituted at 07:58, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

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Overhaul, deletions
I'm starting an overhaul on this article (refs, organization, content, etc) & want to clear that source template ASAP. In the process of getting refs & reorganizing, I may briefly remove material that will later be re-inserted where relevant / with references. When cuts are made, I'll make a note in the edit summary & include the copy in this section of my sandbox.

Also welcoming help with the Anthony Braxton discography; I've only looked at the page for For Alto, but I think it has the release date (of 1971) off by 2 years, so I'm not feeling optimistic...

// Knifegames (talk) 10:23, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Areas to expand
I've slowed down quite a bit on this, so giving an update on progress / to-do in case anyone else wants to pick up the pace!

I've pretty significantly overhauled / restructured the article & added sections for his early life (w/ family, schooling, interests) + education and military service, though eventually there should be more coverage of musical relationships developed at the Chicago School of Music, Wilson Jr College, the Fifth Army Band in Illinois, & the Eighth Army Band in South Korea. Organization is somewhat improved, but the career section badly needs subheadings for significant works & developments (most notably, I think, his signing to Arista Records); more broadly, the overview of his projects & recordings is mostly just lists of personnel rather than a big-picture overview of how his work, reception, & collaborations changed over time.

Areas to expand:


 * Early life // siblings; cousin who introduced him to the AACM, CORE, etc.
 * Education and military service // Wilson Jr College (meeting Roscoe Mitchell, Jack DeJohnette, et al.); Fifth Army Band (discovered Arnold Schoenberg, played clarinet & alto, cont'd lessons w/ Gell); Eighth Army Band, incl. recordings off-base in Seoul
 * Early career (1965–1973) // 1965 return to Chicago + intro to the AACM seems like a defining year; also incl. 1967 origins of Creative Construction Company, 1968 debut, 1969 recording of For Alto & time in Paris with CCC, post-Paris crashing w/ Ornette Coleman + chess hustling, 1970 joining Circle, 1971 *release* of For Alto (there seems to be a lot of confusion about this release date…)
 * Career, Arista Records (1974–1982); a few sources:
 * Mike Heffley's "liner notes" (extensive historical essay) to The Complete Arista Recordings
 * Mike Heffley's "liner notes" (extensive historical essay) to The Complete Arista Recordings
 * Mike Heffley's "liner notes" (extensive historical essay) to The Complete Arista Recordings
 * Mike Heffley's "liner notes" (extensive historical essay) to The Complete Arista Recordings


 * Career as educator (1985–2013) // likely not its own section, but had a big impact on his work, esp. given difference in financial means/stability, resources, etc.––incl. 1985 Mills College, 1990 Wesleyan, retiring on 2013 Doris Duke Performing Artist Award
 * MacArthur + Tri-Centric Foundation (1994)
 * Influence / reception // incl. relationship with designation as solely jazz artist & genre shifts over time? Might also incl. notable students such as Tyshawn Sorey, Mary Halvorson, Taylor Ho Bynum, & André Vida; source:


 * Musicianship // incl. instruments played on significant recordings
 * Personal life // marriage to Nickie Singer (1975); children Terri Braxton (?), Tyondai Braxton (1978), Keayr Braxton (~1981), Donari Braxton (1982)

I'm going roughly by the Wikiproject Musicians article guidelines, which note that "usually significant works are dealt with as a sub-section of the Career/History section, so they remain in chronological order"; this is currently a bit muddled, but I do think the compositional systems should probably stay in a separate section (though it needs work).

// Knifegames (talk) 23:12, 30 July 2021 (UTC)