Talk:Boro people/Archive 1

Move from Bodo (community) to Bodo (people)?
Anybody mind moving this page to Bodo (people) or Bodo people, so as to bring this page in line with Naga (people), Tamil people, and other articles? QuartierLatin1968 19:39, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Addition of pictures
Uploaded some pictures, and am currently working on extending the article to include more cultural informaton too that this article isn't so political. Is that too many pictures for one article? Sugarimp 16:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Bo-RO
If it's tranlisterated "Bodo", why is it pronounced "Boro^"? Septentrionalis PMAnderson 20:10, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Or more to the point -- if it's pronounced bo-ro, why not spell it with an R instead of a D? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manormadman (talk • contribs) 04:22, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

It must have been "GLORY", a typing mistake from the author...guess so... "It doesn't suggest any human rights being violated". The "struggle" word specifies it. "Mahamatma Gandhi led a glory struggle for its INDEPENDENCE..." (NOTE:- Its just plain English references, I personally don't support the mass killings in the name of Independence for the IRRESPONSIBILITY AND NEGLIGENCE of THE INDIAN AND ASSAM GOVERNMENT)

...yeah there were some who believed in violence...but its mentioned in the later parts..

\,,/...peace...:)

Flag?
Do the Bodo people have a flag? The article for [Bodoland] shows a flag. I've also seen a different flag (on a poster): green flag, inverted yellow star in a red circle at top-left. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.128.172 (talk) 16:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

why boro people demanding boro land? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.56.88 (talk) 05:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope, Boros don't have any flag. A black shield symbolizes the Boro, and thats it, but its not used for anything...:) BoroLand is but a place ...a region, say a District and has a flag.

And why did Boros demanded for BoroLand is another issue, related to political irresponsibilities towards the people of the tribe and the cultural negligence received...but this stories are the same, NAGALAND, MANIPUR, MEGHALAYA, or any of the seven Sisters...we enjoy paying respect only when received!...\,,/...:) ...I leave it for some more soft versed person to explain, but guess its not suitable for this section (Boro People), not all boros supported the procedure to the demand! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Milaankb (talk • contribs) 13:41, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

3
The meaningless reference "3" was added. Either it refers to "Mission Report: Manas Wildlife Sanctuary (India), UNESCO Convention Concerning the Protection of the World Cultural and Heritage Convention, Thirty-second session, Quebec, Canada, 2–10 July 2008. WHC-08/32.COM/7B." or nothing. Hyacinth (talk) 21:12, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Meaningless stats
Religion section says: the number of christians is increasing, stating a 1% increase in the decade 1991-2001. This is utterly meaningless without a citation showing the sample base. i.e if the sample base was less than 10000 a 1% change is, as said, meaningless (sqrt(n)/n: basic stats). Sort it out or be laughed about.1812ahill (talk) 00:19, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Essay the first; On the Kocch, Bódo and Dhimál tribes, in three parts .. (1847)
Essay the first; On the Kocch, Bódo and Dhimál tribes, in three parts .. (1847)

https://archive.org/details/essayfirstonkoc00hodggoog

Rajmaan (talk) 23:04, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

Suggested correction
I cant edit any page Nehemiah Narzary (talk) 12:58, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

i can edit page
I want to edit page but cant Nehemiah Narzary (talk) 13:05, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
 * You just edited it. నిజానికి (talk) 17:33, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

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Population
I am just a casual visitor to this article, but I was surprised to see that the Bodo population was purportedly more than 150 million, which would make it nearly as large as all of Bangladesh and one of the largest ethnic groups in the world. I assume that was a typing mistake, so I updated the number to reflect the linked source. Hopefully, this was correct, if not, apologies. -Sean — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.181.180 (talk) 17:20, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Untangling?
This article has become very confusing recently, in part because of some sort of undiscussed page move and use of Boro where previously Bodo applied. Can anyone untangle it? - Sitush (talk) 22:00, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
 * We need to restore it to Bodo and remove Boro. Some of the confusion arises due to academic use as well.  Bodo is used by linguists and anthropologists to denote the umbrella group, whereas in the popular and socio-political context Bodo is used to denote just one of the subgroups.  For example, All Bodo Students Union, Bodo Sahitya Sabha, Bodoland etc.  An attempt is made to clarify the usage in Bodo-Kachari_people.  Therefore, in Wikipedia we are using Bodo-Kachari to denote the umbrella group and Bodo to denote the subgroup.  The situation is not ideal.  Chaipau (talk) 01:18, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Ok, thanks for the info. - Sitush (talk) 04:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Genetics
We avoid mentioning genetics in caste/tribe articles and I suspect that applies here, too. Tibeto-Burman languages, to which Bodo belongs, is the linguistic group that thought to entered Assam after the Austroasiatic but Bodos highest frequency of 6.4 Austro-Asiatic DNA in entire world shows complete absorption of them may reflect the sources but there are sound reasons why genetics studies are generally ignored. I should be able to find some past discussions on the subject but can't concentrate very well at the moment. - Sitush (talk) 11:47, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I am curious, why should we avoid genetics in caste/tribe articles?
 * Also, the statement you quote is a POV reinterpretation of what the author actually said, and is actually misleading.
 * Chaipau (talk) 12:15, 3 May 2019 (UTC)


 * I haven't read the sources, hence I said "may reflect", not "does reflect". The genetics issue has to do with things such as it being a rapidly-changing science, using small statistical populations, relying on self-identification of subjects, not primarily being concerned with linguistics nor specialists in it, and all that sort of stuff. It's a long list and definitely has been discussed on a multitude of occasions. I will try to find a past discussion but it won't be today. - Sitush (talk) 12:18, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Discussions will probably be somewhere in this search. - Sitush (talk) 13:20, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Sourcing
We do not use sources from the British Raj era and earlier, per longstanding consensus. There is some background to this noted at User:Sitush/Common. The recent restorations by need to be removed again. - Sitush (talk) 09:02, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Where is it written ?  Show me official page where is it written.  I don't need your page.


 * Sorry, I gave you the wrong link anyway. Try User:Sitush/CasteSources - it contains links to formal community discussions etc. - Sitush (talk) 09:09, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * That is not british raj book about caste. That's book about culture, religion , folk tradition.   It's like history book.


 * Your link don't contain any community discussion. Thats your personal page.  Show me,  Official wikipedia page.  In your page you have written your POV  , there is no discussion.  I think I should ask higher administrator.  PerfectingNEI (talk) 09:14, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * What isn't? Endle? "Caste" in the Indian sense is taken to mean anything about people's history or anthropology. You may also want to read WP:HISTRS but there *are* links to discussions at places such as WT:INB and WP:RSN in the user page I just gave you. Please read it properly. - Sitush (talk) 09:16, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Hello Mr. You are no one to claim which book right. Which book wrong. Let higher administrator decide.  I have just  complained about you.  Lets see what happen.  Stop reverting anything.  You can complain higher authority.  Citation is citation.  And What is this, You have deleted list of notable people.  Their title are enough to say who they are ?


 * It is not me who is deciding this stuff, it is the community via discussions. See WP:CONSENSUS. As for the list of notable people, a read of User:Sitush/Common may help - you need to source their Bodo connections and if they are living you need to find a source that shows them self-identifying those connections. Again, although that page refers to caste, it applies to all Indic communal groups. - Sitush (talk) 09:29, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't believe in you. I'll not read from your page.  I've just complained to administrator.  Let them decide.   BTW,  I'll add all citation .  Anyway,  There are lots of fake information other pages why don't you delete those. Why are you deleting the cited information.  You are claiming not to give citation from british regime.  Which line of which wiki official page say it.  I'm unable to find anywhere PerfectingNEI (talk) 09:35, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * Where are you from Mr . You are unable to show me your claim in official page.  Just give me Wikipedia official page and line number.  Don't give me your Sitush page. I don't like your page. PerfectingNEI (talk) 09:38, 10 May 2019 (UTC)


 * One of many examples is this short discussion. It makes no difference where I am from, by the way, nor does it matter that there are things wrong with other Wikipedia articles - just fix them as I am trying to fix this one. - Sitush (talk) 09:49, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hello Mr. Lets assume some parts may be wrong or right but entire book isn't wrong. Right ?   That book don't deal with DNA.  That book is  just  culture, Language ,  Our physical feature ,  Our clan etc written.   If reference is given in wrong sentence then you can delete.  But book referenced for the  what is our name ?  Then it's not wrong right.  Just read the sentences of Bodo people if you find that that is referenced for wrong reason then you can delete it's citation.

I'm afraid we cannot do that. The academic standards applied by those Raj ethnologists etc were so poor that we simply do not use them. You'll need to find more modern sources. - Sitush (talk) 10:12, 10 May 2019 (UTC)

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